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February 06, 2023, 02:17:37 PM
I believe the newbies and other mere plebs like me whogo into the topic should listen to the teachings of JuanJayGee. I may not agree with all of his teachings, but it's just because of personal differences/preferences. Ask JuanJayGee if the current levels are good to buy Bitcoin blindly, and profit by selling two years later. His answer will be YES, and I definitely agree.

For the best traders, they know how to have good timing in their entries to have 5x leverage, then have 5x the profit, but only the best 10% of traders in the market can do it. How can we plebs beat them in their own game if they are better capitalized that us, more skilled than us, and they have an army of their bots trading against you.

I don't really suggest selling except as a bitcoin management technique after you have already largely over accumulated and if you are in profits, so let's say for example, if you started considering investing into bitcoin about two years ago, so it was not really a good time to start your bitcoin investment plan and two years ago you had a $100k investment portfolio (non-BTC items.. such as index funds, bonds, and perhaps property), and you targeted to buy 15% in bitcoin.  So you took about a year or so to buy into bitcoin, and so last year when the BTC price dropped into the $30ks, you had reached your investment goal target of investing $15k into BTC. 

However, we know what happened from May 2022 until now, BTC prices kept dropping below $30k and then you decided to keep buying BTC, so maybe in the 8 months or so you continue to buy BTC until you had invested nearly $25k into BTC, so you went way above your investment allocation, so in those kinds of circumstances in which you end up being overinvested into bitcoin (beyond your initial authorization level of 15%), you could authorize yourself to sell some BTC along the way while you are in profits, even though it likely would be better to merely keep investing into bitcoin for 4-10 years or even to HODL through various periods into the future in order to increase likelihood that the BTC portfolio will be in profits and that future investments and also profits within the overall investment holdings will be able to start to compound upon itself.. yet each person has to decide for themselves regarding how to manage their investment portfolio, and for sure there are no guarantees of profits.. so a person who may well have exceeded his/her investment allocation targets of having more value into BTC than originally intended will have more flexibility to sell some of that BTC along the way than someone who had not. and especially if the BTC price ends up outperforming other assets that are held within the investment portfolio....

And, personally, I do not necessarily advocate to sell your winners, but surely there can be ways to manage your holdings in order that you might shave off relatively small portions of the profits as the BTC price is going up (if the BTC price goes up, and especially if the BTC price substantially outperforms other assets in the investment portfolio).

By the way, I believe that it is not a good idea to follow the suggestions of some investment advisors who argue that you should continue to reallocate back to your original authorization levels.. and I believe more in the idea of letting your winners ride, especially if they are outperforming your other investment assets that you are holding, yet of course, shaving some profits off along the way still can be helpful in managing some of the volatility and without devolving into gambling with your overall investment portfolio, but perhaps come up with some kind of a formula regarding how much BTC that you authorize yourself to sell as the price goes up (in the event that the BTC price goes up), so you could sell 1% for every time it goes up 10% or some other variation of that.

If you got into bitcoin in the last 1, 2 or even 3 years, you may well still be in the negative, if you had been buying BTC on a regular basis during that time, and even  if you had attempted to buy on dips, it may not have changed the outcome very much between whether buying on dips is preferable to DCA.

Even though for sure, I am not completely opposed to the idea of buying on dips, I believe at best buying on dips supplements DCA'ing strategies rather than substitutes for DCA'ing strategies, so in that regard, I personally believe that a reliance on mostly DCA allows normies to be a wee bit more aggressive and assertive in their abilities to accumulate BTC and it also facilitates the abilities of normies to focus on the more important things - which is their own budgets rather than the BTC price.  The BTC price is likely quite a lot less important than figuring out your own fucking budget, even though so many newbies to bitcoin (and even newbies to investing) get distracted into concentrating so much on the actual short term price performance of the asset in which they are investing, and in this case we are referring to bitcoin, but the error of ways seems to apply to any asset.. and for sure, there is a need to figure out various fundamental aspects of the asset class because ultimately you should believe in the long term fundamentals of any asset class once you start to invest into it... but once you have gotten past the hurdles of mostly figuring out the fundamentals of the asset class, it seems to me that more important thing is to thereafter figure out your own budget and to figure out way that you can employ somewhat aggressive/assertive investing tactics without over doing it... and you do that by figuring out yourself and your finances and psychology.. and thereafter applying it to bitcoin with perhaps a set DCA and some supplemental buying on dips and perhaps lump sum investing too.... and of course, if you run out of money from time to time, there likely will be needs to just HODL through the low cashflow situations until either your cashflow improves or the price comes to your buying points.
I entered in the last 1 year to buy bitcoin regularly until now and it hasn't changed anything, the results mean that it is still negative from what is generated from buying high and buying low, all of that varies from what I have done with my DCA like it so far.
So it's not for now to see the results of the profit because we will wait longer in the process by accumulating from DCA.

Yes.. it seems that anyone getting into bitcoin in the last 2-3 years might not be in profits, so sometimes it can make some differences to have some buying on dips that are mixed in with the DCA.

For me it was similar, it took a couple of years to start to feel like my BTC holdings were pretty solid, and even more than 3 years for my first purchases that I made in late 2013 to become profitable... by early 2017.. and surely, there are not even any guarantees about how long it might take and whether it will end up being profitable, even though many of us still consider bitcoin to be amongst the best (if not the best) place to build a decently solid long term investment portfolio.. yet in the end, each person is responsible for their own investment decisions regarding if they do it and how they do it... and some of those folks who had opportunities 4-10 years ago, are kicking themselves if they did not get in or if they ended up getting in later -- but yeah, even when there are periods of profits, there can be periods in which the BTC holdings are not in profits and are quite negative in terms of where they are at relative to other possible investments/assets/currencies.

True, we don't think of it like that buying dips just to supplement the DCA only when I have more dollars then I do that but not for all depending on dips this is more difficult if you do it continuously and better with a simpler DCA we can start smaller with DCA than dips with big numbers because I know it won't be continuous with dips.

It seems to be a lot easier to see the dips after you have already gone through them; however, while you are in the midst of the dipping, it is not easy to see either whether the dip is over or how far it will go or even if it is going to dip anymore.  Sometimes, even when folks are saying that there is going to be more dip, such "more dips" do not end up happening.

My ability is to continue to accumulate bitcoins with DCA and this has been adjusted according to my own income variations, this is normal for me there will be no pressure whatsoever I am not overly aggressive in this matter because we need a balance that has been done so far, the important thing is that I continue input DCA and when there is an opportunity to buy dips then I do that.

So both are just to complement in between DCA and Dips, my goal now is how to earn bitcoins in a way that can keep up with my budget.

Yep.. sometimes, if you can figure out ways to earn more income (whether in bitcoin or in other ways such as cash or even savings on some expenses), then you may well see that you had been able to generate quite a few extra sats with that money.  I recall some times in 2015 of having some kind of extra cashflow of a couple hundred dollars, and then I would buy bitcoin with it.. and at the time, it just seemed very risky.. but maybe if I bought $120 worth of bitcoin, then I ended up getting 0.5 BTC, and now that seems outrageously great, but at the time, there were feelings of uncertainty regarding if the BTC price was going to go back up or just stay stuck in the mid-$200s forever.

    It's actually very easy to say that, and many people have said it here, but no one knows when the dip to buy is, there is no specific date, day, or time when, that's the problem, it's hard to distinguish the so-called right time to buy.

Maybe the best thing to do is save as much bitcoin as you can before everyone catches on and regrets not saving.

It seems to me that many of us are already saying similar things that you are saying bettercrypto.. NOT everyone is going to agree about whether more dip is coming, and frequently I have asserted that if you just keep buying BTC on a regular basis, then it will be easier; however, I understand why someone who might have $400 extra a month, might not want to spend it all on bitcoin at current prices, so they might save a certain portion to buy on dips, while realizing that maybe more dip will come and maybe it won't, so there is a certain risk that any of us has to accept if we choose to not buy and to wait for dips that might not end up happening.  It is much easier for folks who have been in bitcoin for longer and who have been stacking sats for much longer, then those longer term persons might not be as worried about whether they have enough bitcoin at these prices or even at lower prices, but some folks who might have gotten into bitcoin in the past 2-3 years or even more recently than that might get more worried about whether they have stacked enough sats at these prices, and so it can take many years before anyone starts to feel comfortable with how many sats that s/he has stacked because sometimes the income to buy bitcoin might not be very high, so it can take several years to stack a sufficient quantity of sats away with whatever cashflow is available or can be saved without causing too much stress on other aspects of finances and/or psychology.
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February 06, 2023, 10:07:18 AM
    It's actually very easy to say that, and many people have said it here, but no one knows when the dip to buy is, there is no specific date, day, or time when, that's the problem, it's hard to distinguish the so-called right time to buy.

Maybe the best thing to do is save as much bitcoin as you can before everyone catches on and regrets not saving.
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February 06, 2023, 05:55:13 AM
If you got into bitcoin in the last 1, 2 or even 3 years, you may well still be in the negative, if you had been buying BTC on a regular basis during that time, and even  if you had attempted to buy on dips, it may not have changed the outcome very much between whether buying on dips is preferable to DCA.

Even though for sure, I am not completely opposed to the idea of buying on dips, I believe at best buying on dips supplements DCA'ing strategies rather than substitutes for DCA'ing strategies, so in that regard, I personally believe that a reliance on mostly DCA allows normies to be a wee bit more aggressive and assertive in their abilities to accumulate BTC and it also facilitates the abilities of normies to focus on the more important things - which is their own budgets rather than the BTC price.  The BTC price is likely quite a lot less important than figuring out your own fucking budget, even though so many newbies to bitcoin (and even newbies to investing) get distracted into concentrating so much on the actual short term price performance of the asset in which they are investing, and in this case we are referring to bitcoin, but the error of ways seems to apply to any asset.. and for sure, there is a need to figure out various fundamental aspects of the asset class because ultimately you should believe in the long term fundamentals of any asset class once you start to invest into it... but once you have gotten past the hurdles of mostly figuring out the fundamentals of the asset class, it seems to me that more important thing is to thereafter figure out your own budget and to figure out way that you can employ somewhat aggressive/assertive investing tactics without over doing it... and you do that by figuring out yourself and your finances and psychology.. and thereafter applying it to bitcoin with perhaps a set DCA and some supplemental buying on dips and perhaps lump sum investing too.... and of course, if you run out of money from time to time, there likely will be needs to just HODL through the low cashflow situations until either your cashflow improves or the price comes to your buying points.

I entered in the last 1 year to buy bitcoin regularly until now and it hasn't changed anything, the results mean that it is still negative from what is generated from buying high and buying low, all of that varies from what I have done with my DCA like it so far.
So it's not for now to see the results of the profit because we will wait longer in the process by accumulating from DCA.

True, we don't think of it like that buying dips just to supplement the DCA only when I have more dollars then I do that but not for all depending on dips this is more difficult if you do it continuously and better with a simpler DCA we can start smaller with DCA than dips with big numbers because I know it won't be continuous with dips.

My ability is to continue to accumulate bitcoins with DCA and this has been adjusted according to my own income variations, this is normal for me there will be no pressure whatsoever I am not overly aggressive in this matter because we need a balance that has been done so far, the important thing is that I continue input DCA and when there is an opportunity to buy dips then I do that.

So both are just to complement in between DCA and Dips, my goal now is how to earn bitcoins in a way that can keep up with my budget.
legendary
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February 06, 2023, 12:48:15 AM
I believe the newbies and other mere plebs like me whogo into the topic should listen to the teachings of JuanJayGee. I may not agree with all of his teachings, but it's just because of personal differences/preferences. Ask JuanJayGee if the current levels are good to buy Bitcoin blindly, and profit by selling two years later. His answer will be YES, and I definitely agree.

For the best traders, they know how to have good timing in their entries to have 5x leverage, then have 5x the profit, but only the best 10% of traders in the market can do it. How can we plebs beat them in their own game if they are better capitalized that us, more skilled than us, and they have an army of their bots trading against you.
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February 05, 2023, 04:02:02 PM
People always want the lowest point price but we don't know how low is bitcoin?
Even though it's clear that the supply of bitcoins is very small if in a few years or decades then it will be more scarce if it's like this then people will continue to buy bitcoin regardless of the price for example $ 100k.
Right now maybe 0.01 BTC is worth $234 see sometime in the future maybe 0.01 will be 10x the current price so in the long term it is best to start from now without thinking of buying at bottom price.
There is no way to know the lowest point of BTC each year but we will only know it once the year has passed. This is why it's always better to buy by the time BTC drops a couple of times or even not in a couple of time but as long as the first few drops are big enough. We can already make good profits out of it once the price recovers.

There will be people who will keeps on buying because they are into longer terms and it's not necessary for them to buy in 1 whole so even if BTC is expensive (say $100k per piece) they will just buy it in fractions. The rest will just wait for a correction, a crash or a bear market to be able to buy at a discounted rate.
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February 05, 2023, 01:00:14 PM
Buying every dip is easy to say, but difficult to identify the dip (for me at least!)

Every time the price of bitcoin drops I am afraid of the point that it is going to stop or it will be ongoing for a long time. Looking at charts and trying to make my TA sometimes prove me wrong!
Buying dip does not necessarily mean one has to buy at the final bottom, if you are waiting for the final bottom you may not even get it and  you miss the opportunity of buying low. What matters is buying when the price is still low and affordable,  always waiting for the last bottom to buy is nothing but greed which many people ended up not getting the bottom.  Buy at the price you feel it is okay and fair for you to hodl. Everyone can't buy in the bottom  because we don't know which price is the bottom,  it is just better to buy at a low price and hodl for a longtime.
People always want the lowest point price but we don't know how low is bitcoin?
Even though it's clear that the supply of bitcoins is very small if in a few years or decades then it will be more scarce if it's like this then people will continue to buy bitcoin regardless of the price for example $ 100k.
Right now maybe 0.01 BTC is worth $234 see sometime in the future maybe 0.01 will be 10x the current price so in the long term it is best to start from now without thinking of buying at bottom price.

Well, how do you do such a thing ajiz138?

If you got into bitcoin in the last 1, 2 or even 3 years, you may well still be in the negative, if you had been buying BTC on a regular basis during that time, and even  if you had attempted to buy on dips, it may not have changed the outcome very much between whether buying on dips is preferable to DCA.

Even though for sure, I am not completely opposed to the idea of buying on dips, I believe at best buying on dips supplements DCA'ing strategies rather than substitutes for DCA'ing strategies, so in that regard, I personally believe that a reliance on mostly DCA allows normies to be a wee bit more aggressive and assertive in their abilities to accumulate BTC and it also facilitates the abilities of normies to focus on the more important things - which is their own budgets rather than the BTC price.  The BTC price is likely quite a lot less important than figuring out your own fucking budget, even though so many newbies to bitcoin (and even newbies to investing) get distracted into concentrating so much on the actual short term price performance of the asset in which they are investing, and in this case we are referring to bitcoin, but the error of ways seems to apply to any asset.. and for sure, there is a need to figure out various fundamental aspects of the asset class because ultimately you should believe in the long term fundamentals of any asset class once you start to invest into it... but once you have gotten past the hurdles of mostly figuring out the fundamentals of the asset class, it seems to me that more important thing is to thereafter figure out your own budget and to figure out way that you can employ somewhat aggressive/assertive investing tactics without over doing it... and you do that by figuring out yourself and your finances and psychology.. and thereafter applying it to bitcoin with perhaps a set DCA and some supplemental buying on dips and perhaps lump sum investing too.... and of course, if you run out of money from time to time, there likely will be needs to just HODL through the low cashflow situations until either your cashflow improves or the price comes to your buying points.
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February 05, 2023, 06:23:31 AM
Buying every dip is easy to say, but difficult to identify the dip (for me at least!)

Every time the price of bitcoin drops I am afraid of the point that it is going to stop or it will be ongoing for a long time. Looking at charts and trying to make my TA sometimes prove me wrong!

Buying dip does not necessarily mean one has to buy at the final bottom, if you are waiting for the final bottom you may not even get it and  you miss the opportunity of buying low. What matters is buying when the price is still low and affordable,  always waiting for the last bottom to buy is nothing but greed which many people ended up not getting the bottom.  Buy at the price you feel it is okay and fair for you to hodl. Everyone can't buy in the bottom  because we don't know which price is the bottom,  it is just better to buy at a low price and hodl for a longtime.
People always want the lowest point price but we don't know how low is bitcoin?
Even though it's clear that the supply of bitcoins is very small if in a few years or decades then it will be more scarce if it's like this then people will continue to buy bitcoin regardless of the price for example $ 100k.
Right now maybe 0.01 BTC is worth $234 see sometime in the future maybe 0.01 will be 10x the current price so in the long term it is best to start from now without thinking of buying at bottom price.
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February 04, 2023, 04:04:03 AM
Buying every dip is easy to say, but difficult to identify the dip (for me at least!)

Every time the price of bitcoin drops I am afraid of the point that it is going to stop or it will be ongoing for a long time. Looking at charts and trying to make my TA sometimes prove me wrong!

Buying dip does not necessarily mean one has to buy at the final bottom, if you are waiting for the final bottom you may not even get it and  you miss the opportunity of buying low. What matters is buying when the price is still low and affordable,  always waiting for the last bottom to buy is nothing but greed which many people ended up not getting the bottom.  Buy at the price you feel it is okay and fair for you to hodl. Everyone can't buy in the bottom  because we don't know which price is the bottom,  it is just better to buy at a low price and hodl for a longtime.
legendary
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February 03, 2023, 11:27:00 AM
Buying every dip is easy to say, but difficult to identify the dip (for me at least!)

Every time the price of bitcoin drops I am afraid of the point that it is going to stop or it will be ongoing for a long time. Looking at charts and trying to make my TA sometimes prove me wrong!
That's right, friends, identifying correctly that the situation is indeed going down is certainly not easy, because what we estimate may not be true because the situation is actually continuing to decline. of course there will be a psychic that will occur and this is not easy to be able to make self-confidence recover immediately if I experience this incident.

Well one of the things that seems to be going on right now (especially since the beginning of the year) is that the BTC price is going up by a lot of value on a regular basis; however, there can be folks who had been holding fiat in order to buy when the BTC price goes down, and then they are realizing that the BTC price might not go down, so then they may well choose a back up strategy to buy if the BTC price dips; however, since the beginning of the year, we have seen the BTC price to go up by nearly 43% from sub $17k to $24,258 - however the corrections have not even really gotten to anything approaching meaningful (greater than 8%)....  So some folks may be waiting for 15% or greater dips that might not happen, yet we do not know... and even if the BTC price goes up to $30k, then if we get a 20% dip, that still ONLY brings the BTC price back down to $24k.   

We have seen such dynamics many times in the past in which folks keep considering that the BTC price is going to meaningful dip, and then such "meaningful" dips do not end up happening... and yeah.. we never know because a "meaningful" dip could happen at any time, but then it might not, and part of the solution is to have had already have been prepared over the past 8 months or so, there have been a lot of opportunities to buy and to establish a position that prepares for UP... .. and of course, the dilemma might be BIGGER if you either did not sufficiently/adequately prepare or if you are coming into bitcoin in much more recent times and you are establishing your position.. sometimes if you are newer to bitcoin, completely relying on buying on dips might not work out very well so you have to consider the extent to which you might want to combine some lumpsum front loading and even DCA buying in order to supplement your strategy in such a way that you feel that you are prepared for a variety of scenarios, and not just betting on some scenario that may or may not end up happening.
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February 02, 2023, 03:45:41 PM
Buying every dip is easy to say, but difficult to identify the dip (for me at least!)

Every time the price of bitcoin drops I am afraid of the point that it is going to stop or it will be ongoing for a long time. Looking at charts and trying to make my TA sometimes prove me wrong!
That's right, friends, identifying correctly that the situation is indeed going down is certainly not easy, because what we estimate may not be true because the situation is actually continuing to decline. of course there will be a psychic that will occur and this is not easy to be able to make self-confidence recover immediately if I experience this incident.
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January 27, 2023, 07:31:20 AM
It doesn't what many of our opinions are, Bitcoin as a censorship-resistant cryptocurrency will be used where it's needed, and where it can help a person, a group, or a nation of people - for better or worse. Plus with that, the price will surge, and the speculators will come - miners, traders, investors - from many countries, and of different social classes.

The economist Milton Fried envisioned a decentralized currency years before Bitcoin was invented. That indicates that there truly is a need, a natural evolution for money, but there wasn't a solution found to solve the Byzantine General's Problem until Satoshi implemented POW.
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January 26, 2023, 01:04:42 PM
You are correct that there will always be pros and cons when it comes to any topic, including Bitcoin. Influencers who support Bitcoin can help to promote it and give it a positive image, while those who do not support it may try to spread negative information. However, it is important to remember that ultimately, it is up to each individual to do their own research and make their own informed decisions, as profit or loss is always yours.
Let them lead any opinion, basically, there are always pros and cons, but the most important thing is that I already know the purpose of bitcoin, which we actually study for a long time, getting to know bitcoin, so I won't think about other people who always corner bitcoin, I'll stay focus on my goal as the best investment here.
But after all, we have experienced the advantages of bitcoin including its disadvantages, but I am quite happy to be in this circle, which means it is focused on the principle that bitcoin can change its future.

As long term HODLER of Bitcoin, we should continue efforts to convince our loved ones to take advantage of current attractive prices of Bitcoin and make an investment in Bitcoin. This decision has the potential to greatly impact their financial future.
I don't force other people to invest in bitcoin, let it come from their conscience, what I instill in them is about the basis of bitcoin and also the technology that it has, not only that there are actually many advantages of bitcoin, but I tell them that bitcoin has it all.
If I myself have been firm, I will focus in the next 5-10 years to continue to hold bitcoin as a better long-term investment effort.
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January 26, 2023, 12:21:46 AM
The point is that everyone has their own views on bitcoin, especially those who listen to bitcoin from banking influencers who are deliberately made to defend their financial system and of course those who don't know bitcoin are sure they will hate bitcoin after listening to that.
Never mind, don't pay too much attention to them, they will understand when the next bitcoin owner will become the richest person in the world, what we need now is to continue to accumulate bitcoin for the long term, today bitcoin corrected 1-2%, not bad for bitcoin installments.
Basically there will always be pros and cons and I agree with what you say, regardless of anything, especially influencers who like bitcoin will definitely make bitcoin something decent and not least some information is exaggerated and vice versa those who don't like bitcoin always have weapons especially when it's bearish like it's currently happening and some other things like when Luke Dashjr lost bitcoin this will continue to galvanize and try to make bitcoin look even worse.
We don't need other people's views, we are aware of the risks we have while we are here and we also know what the consequences and benefits are when owning bitcoin so why care what other people say.

You are correct that there will always be pros and cons when it comes to any topic, including Bitcoin. Influencers who support Bitcoin can help to promote it and give it a positive image, while those who do not support it may try to spread negative information. However, it is important to remember that ultimately, it is up to each individual to do their own research and make their own informed decisions, as profit or loss is always yours.

As long term HODLER of Bitcoin, we should continue efforts to convince our loved ones to take advantage of current attractive prices of Bitcoin and make an investment in Bitcoin. This decision has the potential to greatly impact their financial future.
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January 25, 2023, 04:57:04 PM
The point is that everyone has their own views on bitcoin, especially those who listen to bitcoin from banking influencers who are deliberately made to defend their financial system and of course those who don't know bitcoin are sure they will hate bitcoin after listening to that.
Never mind, don't pay too much attention to them, they will understand when the next bitcoin owner will become the richest person in the world, what we need now is to continue to accumulate bitcoin for the long term, today bitcoin corrected 1-2%, not bad for bitcoin installments.
Basically there will always be pros and cons and I agree with what you say, regardless of anything, especially influencers who like bitcoin will definitely make bitcoin something decent and not least some information is exaggerated and vice versa those who don't like bitcoin always have weapons especially when it's bearish like it's currently happening and some other things like when Luke Dashjr lost bitcoin this will continue to galvanize and try to make bitcoin look even worse.
We don't need other people's views, we are aware of the risks we have while we are here and we also know what the consequences and benefits are when owning bitcoin so why care what other people say.
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January 25, 2023, 12:32:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdIooHrQeK8

Watch Jaime Dimon's face while he tells everyone that Bitcoin is a "hyped up fraud", a "pet rock" that's going to ZERO. DON'T BELIEVE A WORD HE SAYS! Because behind that face is the CEO of J.P. Morgan, the bank that's buying Bitcoin for its wealthy clients. They want the price to be LOW so they can front-run YOU, the plebs. Don't let them do it, don't sell your Bitcoin to the billionaires, YOU should front-run THEM.

Recently I come to know that most people saying trash about bitcoin, in their mind they really knows what Bitcoin is, how valuable it is to invest bitcoin . But they do this for their selfish interests, I feel sorry for those who fall for cheap talks about bitcoin and miss a good opportunity that comes with a good benefit.  Bitcoin billionaires they knows the secret of Hodling Bitcoin for the futures.

The point is that everyone has their own views on bitcoin, especially those who listen to bitcoin from banking influencers who are deliberately made to defend their financial system and of course those who don't know bitcoin are sure they will hate bitcoin after listening to that.
Never mind, don't pay too much attention to them, they will understand when the next bitcoin owner will become the richest person in the world, what we need now is to continue to accumulate bitcoin for the long term, today bitcoin corrected 1-2%, not bad for bitcoin installments.
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January 25, 2023, 11:55:23 AM
In fact, BTC is increasingly being criticized, ridiculed, ridiculed, in fact the enthusiasts and community are getting stronger. In my opinion, these pros and cons will never fade until the same mindset is created in the future. BTC has lasted more than a decade, which means that BTC's presence has been quite accepted by some circles. I'm one of those people who pretty much believes BTC is going to grow and have been investing for the past five years.

Currency fight is not the first time this has happened. In the past, humans were familiar with bartering transactions, then gold and silver, then fiat money and now human civilization has entered the cryptocurrency era.
let them continue to mock Bitcoin, isn't that a strong reason that they are really stupid in understanding what bitcoin is.

indeed, in every business or industry, there are always pros and cons, and the same thing happens in cryptocurrency. but every year bitcoin is always able to steal the world's attention and this is what makes it unique.

maybe a few words from me if you meet people who say bad things about bitcoin you can suggest them to learn more about bitcoin.
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January 25, 2023, 12:40:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdIooHrQeK8

Watch Jaime Dimon's face while he tells everyone that Bitcoin is a "hyped up fraud", a "pet rock" that's going to ZERO. DON'T BELIEVE A WORD HE SAYS! Because behind that face is the CEO of J.P. Morgan, the bank that's buying Bitcoin for its wealthy clients. They want the price to be LOW so they can front-run YOU, the plebs. Don't let them do it, don't sell your Bitcoin to the billionaires, YOU should front-run THEM.

Recently I come to know that most people saying trash about bitcoin, in their mind they really knows what Bitcoin is, how valuable it is to invest bitcoin . But they do this for their selfish interests, I feel sorry for those who fall for cheap talks about bitcoin and miss a good opportunity that comes with a good benefit.  Bitcoin billionaires they knows the secret of Hodling Bitcoin for the futures.
Yes I agree with you on this. I think Bitcoin is a valuable resource for me. I didn't understand Bitcoin before. Now I have a good idea about Bitcoin and I have made a lot of money by investing in Bitcoin on cryptomarket. Through Bitcoin, my life has changed a lot.  .I now believe and invest in Bitcoin.
In fact, BTC is increasingly being criticized, ridiculed, ridiculed, in fact the enthusiasts and community are getting stronger. In my opinion, these pros and cons will never fade until the same mindset is created in the future. BTC has lasted more than a decade, which means that BTC's presence has been quite accepted by some circles. I'm one of those people who pretty much believes BTC is going to grow and have been investing for the past five years.

Currency fight is not the first time this has happened. In the past, humans were familiar with bartering transactions, then gold and silver, then fiat money and now human civilization has entered the cryptocurrency era.
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January 24, 2023, 09:47:23 PM
 Currently, we are just getting back to the 200-week moving average, which is currently at $24,617 and historically had served as a BTC price bottom, but may well present resistance until we get over it... Of course, no guarantees and of course, any of us could have dilemmas in regards to whether it is good to buy now or to wait for further dip in the event that further dips may or may not happen in the short term.
It's quite a dilemma in the current position because we haven't touched the 200WMA to continue buying or not, when the price touches the 200WMA thread it will be the next level as strong support and resistance for bitcoin to continue its increase, it may still needs some time to touch that price level.
The fear that maybe bitcoin does not touch the 200WMA, I feel price will experience a correction first around $ 20k - $ 22k .

because yesterday's bull run phase was also quite a dilemma, whether a bull trap or not is important for us to be aware of and not fomo, I think the funds to continue DCA must be divided into two to anticipate several possibilities, first we continue to buy at any price and secondly funds to buy when bitcoins are in decline.

Well there are at least a couple of kinds of common dilemmas that are going on.  One kind of dilemma is for the newbie who is having difficulties having confidence in bitcoin as an asset class, and surely, if that person is a low coiner or a no coiner, then s/he should just be buying on a regular basis and not really getting worked up about the price.  Like you said maybe saving some extra money for buying on dips that might happen, but really just regularly and ongoingly buying with any extra money.. and that condition has been great prices for more than 7 months, so far.. .. since historically the BTC price has not spent a lot of time below the 200-week moving average.. Historically, it has not been a common kind of price dynamics in bitcoin.

The other somewhat common kind of dilemma would be for the person who has been in bitcoin for a while, and had been buying on BTC price dips - yet at the same time that person believed that the odds for the BTC price going below the 200-week moving average was quite low, and in that regard, that person might have been buying BTC all the way down from $50k to $30k and then largely ran out of money before the BTC price continued to drop nearly another 50% at BTC price locations that the longer term bitcoiner had thought was going to be at or near the bottom of this price correction.. but then ends up experiencing nearly another 50% BTC price drop and perhaps having some financial and psychological difficulties in terms of being able to continue to buy.. .. and really even feeling some resentment to perhaps ONLY being able to buy small amounts below $20k, when s/he had bought decently large amounts in the mid $30ks and then realizing that all the money spent could have bought nearly twice as many sats...

...so yeah there can be some frustration from some longer term bitcoiners.. and maybe there would be less frustration if compared to some currently reckt (financially and psychologically) folks who had been engaging in leverage an other kinds of extensive riskiness with their bets on going long bitcoin.. so hopefully that kind of person is not as common, but we know that some of the overleveraged an reckt folks exist in bitcoinlandia, too.
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January 24, 2023, 03:04:46 PM
 
Currently, we are just getting back to the 200-week moving average, which is currently at $24,617 and historically had served as a BTC price bottom, but may well present resistance until we get over it... Of course, no guarantees and of course, any of us could have dilemmas in regards to whether it is good to buy now or to wait for further dip in the event that further dips may or may not happen in the short term.

It's quite a dilemma in the current position because we haven't touched the 200WMA to continue buying or not, when the price touches the 200WMA thread it will be the next level as strong support and resistance for bitcoin to continue its increase, it may still needs some time to touch that price level.
The fear that maybe bitcoin does not touch the 200WMA, I feel price will experience a correction first around $ 20k - $ 22k .

because yesterday's bull run phase was also quite a dilemma, whether a bull trap or not is important for us to be aware of and not fomo, I think the funds to continue DCA must be divided into two to anticipate several possibilities, first we continue to buy at any price and secondly funds to buy when bitcoins are in decline.
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January 23, 2023, 12:34:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdIooHrQeK8

Watch Jaime Dimon's face while he tells everyone that Bitcoin is a "hyped up fraud", a "pet rock" that's going to ZERO. DON'T BELIEVE A WORD HE SAYS! Because behind that face is the CEO of J.P. Morgan, the bank that's buying Bitcoin for its wealthy clients. They want the price to be LOW so they can front-run YOU, the plebs. Don't let them do it, don't sell your Bitcoin to the billionaires, YOU should front-run THEM.

Recently I come to know that most people saying trash about bitcoin, in their mind they really knows what Bitcoin is, how valuable it is to invest bitcoin . But they do this for their selfish interests, I feel sorry for those who fall for cheap talks about bitcoin and miss a good opportunity that comes with a good benefit.  Bitcoin billionaires they knows the secret of Hodling Bitcoin for the futures.
Yes I agree with you on this. I think Bitcoin is a valuable resource for me. I didn't understand Bitcoin before. Now I have a good idea about Bitcoin and I have made a lot of money by investing in Bitcoin on cryptomarket. Through Bitcoin, my life has changed a lot.  .I now believe and invest in Bitcoin.
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