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Quote from: karmamiu on May 04, 2023, 06:49:22 AM

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on May 04, 2023, 03:15:53 AM

- I have no idea to be honest, although often when I see AIs on various social media platforms that they include in the ads that appear,
I don't have any interest in it.

Also I doubt it will break the poker play game here in the crypto space. It seems impossible to happen in my opinion. But I'm not underestimating the AI, it just gets really noisy at times like this.

There is also no credible source yet that it can actually destroy the gaming platforms, and as what I can see based on the results so far, it is also understandable that gamblers and regular users are full of axiety to this information spreading alone about AI dominating the economy, but as what I have understood so far, AI can be trained or depending on how it is designed will show the effects or benefits from the program. As of now, it is not yet clear whether we can trust that hypothesis since that answer came from AI too as what I had investigated in the past and due to it's inconsistent nature, I cannot also guarantee whether its effects can greatly impact all fields on our economy not only in gambling.

This was the same way news went round one time that there is a certain type of computer coming, if I still remember, I think it's called Quantum computer, that it has the ability to destroy bitcoin or any other crypto currency, probably by hackers using it to hack the blockchain easily..
Till date, there been no such thing as Quantum computers anywhere, or neither there been any computer invented that have turned threat to bitcoin or any other crypto coin..

I think most of us have gotten used to panicking over nothing, assuming things that typically might never happen, one thing I am certain about is that, online gambling will always be and will continue to grow, if there ever come a time Ai become a threat, the industry will always find a way around it.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on May 04, 2023, 03:15:53 AM

- I have no idea to be honest, although often when I see AIs on various social media platforms that they include in the ads that appear,
I don't have any interest in it.

Also I doubt it will break the poker play game here in the crypto space. It seems impossible to happen in my opinion. But I'm not underestimating the AI, it just gets really noisy at times like this.

There is also no credible source yet that it can actually destroy the gaming platforms, and as what I can see based on the results so far, it is also understandable that gamblers and regular users are full of axiety to this information spreading alone about AI dominating the economy, but as what I have understood so far, AI can be trained or depending on how it is designed will show the effects or benefits from the program. As of now, it is not yet clear whether we can trust that hypothesis since that answer came from AI too as what I had investigated in the past and due to it's inconsistent nature, I cannot also guarantee whether its effects can greatly impact all fields on our economy not only in gambling.

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Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 03:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

Considering that they did it with chess years ago, it's probably working already.
Poker revolves around mathematical odds, and anyone with a simple spreadsheet can have that same advantage.

My bigger concern in online poker play is whether they see your cards when a bot masked as a human is playing against you Grin

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- I have no idea to be honest, although often when I see AIs on various social media platforms that they include in the ads that appear,
I don't have any interest in it.

Also I doubt it will break the poker play game here in the crypto space. It seems impossible to happen in my opinion. But I'm not underestimating the AI, it just gets really noisy at times like this.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 02, 2023, 12:29:19 AM

Quote from: Desmong on May 01, 2023, 06:12:45 PM

We might not know what these artificial intelligence is capable of during until we wait for few years from now to see how things are going to go like. This AI is going to be used more for evil and we need to be prepared for the worse because the time is coming to us as soon as possible. Even the government may not be able to control it themselves.

the whole idea of the person(s) behind the AI invention isn't for evil, it's the negative mindset of the users that'll now change this idea and make it look like a bad idea.

As we believe that the intentions of the developers of AI are good, we should learn from the old cults formed where their intentions were good and for freedom fighting, but as generations pass, it was being used for evil. It's human beings we are talking about, they would definitely use it for evil. While some will code an already-made AI to do more evil tasks for them, so I believe the world should be wary of it.

But for casinos, as the main subject of this thread, AI will never be able to manipulate casinos into winning, unless it would first hack it.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 03, 2023, 03:14:16 PM

Chat GTP can only provide us with what is available for analysis and computations. It is not capable of reading specific people's minds and emotions in predicting the future based on fantasies. In a poker game, Chat GPT can only provide you the chances of winning your cards based on what is seen on the deck and its remaining cards.

So it's like a better version of a scientific calculator because it saves you time and effort from memorizing and making calculations based on your mind which is not that easy. Maybe in the future, a robot can read people's expressions and gestures that might help assess if they are worried and or comfortable with their cards.

Chat GTP is vital for students, and they made full use of it. Computer science students utilized it to repair code bugs, while other students used it to improve their essay writing skills and pose needless questions that required irrelevant answers. Chat GTP has surpassed other social media platforms; I found it useful in so many ways, but it's also detrimental since students will currently wake up and give chat GTP instructions on what happens next in the house. Saving and instructing chat GTP on online tasks to complete within a few seconds or minutes can completely stimulate their laziness and relenting in their activities as students and children.

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Chat GTP can only provide us with what is available for analysis and computations. It is not capable of reading specific people's minds and emotions in predicting the future based on fantasies. In a poker game, Chat GPT can only provide you the chances of winning your cards based on what is seen on the deck and its remaining cards.

So it's like a better version of a scientific calculator because it saves you time and effort from memorizing and making calculations based on your mind which is not that easy. Maybe in the future, a robot can read people's expressions and gestures that might help assess if they are worried and or comfortable with their cards.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on May 02, 2023, 07:46:38 AM

People today getting exaggerated with ChatGPT this cannot give too much than your fantasies related to gambling this is used to help people with their concerns and use for developing tools, you can seek information with the chatgpt but in defeating into a game far from reality with the use of chatgpt still needs with the players presence to play in gambling casino unless you will built a script for your automatic game destroyer in the game, this case surely makes a suspicious to the player might put a penalty for the players part.

Concern? But gamblers' concern is to win more money and that is why they are asking if ChatGPT can help them reach their goals. I won't say people here are exaggerated because there's only less topics here about ChatGPT compared to coding and others.

The replies only reach this far because the thread haven't been locked yet but I am sure most replies here are against the wish of the gamblers who thinks ChatGPT can help them win their games. I don't know what you mean by game destroyer. Is it a kind of hack? If yes then indeed it's illegal but if it's only a kind of strategy then I doubt if it will be successful on beating the house. It might only give you some wins for a short period of time if your luck kicks in.

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I say that if it is possible,if an AI can learn in a matter of seconds and become or have the ability of a professional professional in hours, I think that poker or any other ability can do it, the only thing is that we don't have access to the type of programming to do it,the devs obviously know that this is possible, now if the devs give the possibility that one as a user can train the AI so that it can do such aThing it is very possible, of course the AI is hardly in full swing and many people only use it for everything, but they don't know that it is limited in many things and obviously for that it is necessary to have special permissions through Openia.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 02, 2023, 12:29:19 AM

the whole idea of the person(s) behind the AI invention isn't for evil, it's the negative mindset of the users that'll now change this idea and make it look like a bad idea.

Instead of discussing the advantages of AI, everyone is creating a situation where AI is associated with everything and portraying it in a bad light. Many people like me don't understand why AI should be added to gambling, gambling should be the way it is now. If AI is involved in gambling, the real entertainment of gambling will not be there. This will have an impact on the gambling industry. Some things are important to change but not everything.

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Quote from: danadc on May 02, 2023, 02:47:59 PM

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Quote from: Peanutswar on May 02, 2023, 07:46:38 AM

People today getting exaggerated with ChatGPT this cannot give too much than your fantasies related to gambling this is used to help people with their concerns and use for developing tools, you can seek information with the chatgpt but in defeating into a game far from reality with the use of chatgpt still needs with the players presence to play in gambling casino unless you will built a script for your automatic game destroyer in the game, this case surely makes a suspicious to the player might put a penalty for the players part.

That's an interesting point I haven't thought about yet. I agree that ChatGPT is not there yet to take over all human decision making in gambling and online Poker. But there could be a time where AI will surpass is humans in gambling, like it happened in many other games. The real question is how will people be able you use it in poker if there are large sums of money involved. In chess for example there are computer programs that are much better than humans for years now, and still online tournaments are being played. The main issue here is that games can be analysed quickly to see if a machine or a human was playing. I would expect the same thing to happen in online poker. The use of advanced software will likely be banned and punished harshly.

It is that the AI can be developed quickly, and of course they can make perfect games, as a player I could not leave what I play in the hands of an AI, because an AI can spend my money completely and without any kind of resentment, this would make me many game houses are aware that people use the AI to win, and the security would have to ban the person using the AI, the Easiest way is that the system they have would not be ideal to play poker, ideally play dice because the AI would understand the provably fair algorithm and destroy it, because the statistics and calculations it gets are Greater than the algorithm.

Like I said in my previous comment some days back, gambling is pretty dynamic, how possible is it that an Ai that has been programed to think and reason Is a certain way would handle dynamics in gambling?
To me, I think Ai can only function effectively in the game that has a static structure, but for games with an algorithm that changes from time to time, it will be pretty difficult for an Ai to cope with such a game, except the Ai is also programed to change its own pattern of operation from time to time to match that of the game algorithm.

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Quote from: Mauser on May 02, 2023, 09:05:05 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on May 02, 2023, 07:46:38 AM

People today getting exaggerated with ChatGPT this cannot give too much than your fantasies related to gambling this is used to help people with their concerns and use for developing tools, you can seek information with the chatgpt but in defeating into a game far from reality with the use of chatgpt still needs with the players presence to play in gambling casino unless you will built a script for your automatic game destroyer in the game, this case surely makes a suspicious to the player might put a penalty for the players part.

That's an interesting point I haven't thought about yet. I agree that ChatGPT is not there yet to take over all human decision making in gambling and online Poker. But there could be a time where AI will surpass is humans in gambling, like it happened in many other games. The real question is how will people be able you use it in poker if there are large sums of money involved. In chess for example there are computer programs that are much better than humans for years now, and still online tournaments are being played. The main issue here is that games can be analysed quickly to see if a machine or a human was playing. I would expect the same thing to happen in online poker. The use of advanced software will likely be banned and punished harshly.

It is that the AI can be developed quickly, and of course they can make perfect games, as a player I could not leave what I play in the hands of an AI, because an AI can spend my money completely and without any kind of resentment, this would make me many game houses are aware that people use the AI to win, and the security would have to ban the person using the AI, the Easiest way is that the system they have would not be ideal to play poker, ideally play dice because the AI would understand the provably fair algorithm and destroy it, because the statistics and calculations it gets are Greater than the algorithm.

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Quote from: Mauser on May 02, 2023, 09:05:05 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on May 02, 2023, 07:46:38 AM

People today getting exaggerated with ChatGPT this cannot give too much than your fantasies related to gambling this is used to help people with their concerns and use for developing tools, you can seek information with the chatgpt but in defeating into a game far from reality with the use of chatgpt still needs with the players presence to play in gambling casino unless you will built a script for your automatic game destroyer in the game, this case surely makes a suspicious to the player might put a penalty for the players part.

That's an interesting point I haven't thought about yet. I agree that ChatGPT is not there yet to take over all human decision making in gambling and online Poker. But there could be a time where AI will surpass is humans in gambling, like it happened in many other games. The real question is how will people be able you use it in poker if there are large sums of money involved. In chess for example there are computer programs that are much better than humans for years now, and still online tournaments are being played. The main issue here is that games can be analysed quickly to see if a machine or a human was playing. I would expect the same thing to happen in online poker. The use of advanced software will likely be banned and punished harshly.

We can't predict the exact things that might happen in the future, AI might be able to defeat humans in gambling in the future, and it may never be able to do that, it all depends on how advanced the technology can get, but even after that, I think humans will still have an edge since an AI model will never have the ability to think.

AI can only evaluate the results from the past, analyze the data and predict one step in the future while a human can think of steps ahead and that is the reason why humans will probably always be superior to AI models no matter how developed they might become.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on May 02, 2023, 07:46:38 AM

People today getting exaggerated with ChatGPT this cannot give too much than your fantasies related to gambling this is used to help people with their concerns and use for developing tools, you can seek information with the chatgpt but in defeating into a game far from reality with the use of chatgpt still needs with the players presence to play in gambling casino unless you will built a script for your automatic game destroyer in the game, this case surely makes a suspicious to the player might put a penalty for the players part.

That's an interesting point I haven't thought about yet. I agree that ChatGPT is not there yet to take over all human decision making in gambling and online Poker. But there could be a time where AI will surpass is humans in gambling, like it happened in many other games. The real question is how will people be able you use it in poker if there are large sums of money involved. In chess for example there are computer programs that are much better than humans for years now, and still online tournaments are being played. The main issue here is that games can be analysed quickly to see if a machine or a human was playing. I would expect the same thing to happen in online poker. The use of advanced software will likely be banned and punished harshly.

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People today getting exaggerated with ChatGPT this cannot give too much than your fantasies related to gambling this is used to help people with their concerns and use for developing tools, you can seek information with the chatgpt but in defeating into a game far from reality with the use of chatgpt still needs with the players presence to play in gambling casino unless you will built a script for your automatic game destroyer in the game, this case surely makes a suspicious to the player might put a penalty for the players part.

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Quote from: o48o on May 01, 2023, 02:27:26 PM

Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 03:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

Totally, when they are online getting real time data, not only chatgpt but other AI:s as well. In fact, one could just run dozens of bots playing with each other against the humans, amd if you get 2 of your own ai:s in on same table, changes to play humans out are pretty high. But even when you are playing live, it's not far ahead for people to use augmented reality layer in their glasses that others can't see, and it will be operated by AI that suggest what you should do. Same goes with chess. They need to do nude search for those matches sooner or later.

I believe there is a very big difference between chess and poker or any other gambling game. In chess, all the moves are basically anticipated since there are only a finite number of moves that can be used in chess which can be easy to be memorized by AI, and we've been seeing that for a long time where a bot can beat a human in a chess game on a mobile or a pc.

But when it comes to poker or any other gambling game, the games are always different, the cards are different and so are the cards of every other player. So it doesn't really sound possible for AI to memorize all that and apply it practically.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on May 01, 2023, 06:20:31 PM

Quote from: Desmong on May 01, 2023, 06:12:45 PM

We might not know what these artificial intelligence is capable of during until we wait for few years from now to see how things are going to go like. This AI is going to be used more for evil and we need to be prepared for the worse because the time is coming to us as soon as possible. Even the government may not be able to control it themselves.

Few years is a long time, the way things are moving, we will probably know the impact of AI on gambling and Poker in a year or two. Artificial Intelligence is growing fast and almost every field of life is affected by it. In most of the cases, it is used in a good sense but we should not forget that people will also try to use it in a negative manner.

For now no one can use Al to win a game in gambling because it is impossible for Al to be able to do it, moreover a system in casino games including poker cannot be guessed and cannot even use Al to win poker.
I don't think Al can go that far at gambling.
But for the future we don't know because as time goes by there will definitely be developments carried out on Al so that he can be more capable of everything, it's just that we don't know when that will happen because a development requires a long budget and time.

But it is highly not recommended to use AI because it will only make someone dependent on an artificial intelligence technology.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 02, 2023, 12:29:19 AM

Quote from: Desmong on May 01, 2023, 06:12:45 PM

We might not know what these artificial intelligence is capable of during until we wait for few years from now to see how things are going to go like. This AI is going to be used more for evil and we need to be prepared for the worse because the time is coming to us as soon as possible. Even the government may not be able to control it themselves.

the whole idea of the person(s) behind the AI invention isn't for evil, it's the negative mindset of the users that'll now change this idea and make it look like a bad idea.

It depends on the worldview of the people behind the creation of AI, as well as on those people, organizations and political structures who ultimately control the further development of AI.

I think that in general the whole civilization is on the verge of possible and very negative changes for the simple reason that the development of AI from just laboratory conditions and experiments has already grown into all spheres of military development and has become used in modern warfare. Do you think that such AI, originally aimed at destroying the enemy, can bring at least something good to humanity? And the latest events generally tell us quite unambiguously that those political clans in the world that are now in power are aimed at confrontation and tough confrontation! What good can be expected from them? And from AI, whose development they obviously oversee and keep under control? True, it is not known how long they will keep him under 100% control. And there will be a huge fiasco here. ?
And all this can happen because of ambitions, groups of some arrogant, filthy and cruel politicians who imagine themselves to be gods!

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Quote from: Desmong on May 01, 2023, 06:12:45 PM

We might not know what these artificial intelligence is capable of during until we wait for few years from now to see how things are going to go like. This AI is going to be used more for evil and we need to be prepared for the worse because the time is coming to us as soon as possible. Even the government may not be able to control it themselves.

the whole idea of the person(s) behind the AI invention isn't for evil, it's the negative mindset of the users that'll now change this idea and make it look like a bad idea.

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Quote from: Desmong on May 01, 2023, 06:12:45 PM

We might not know what these artificial intelligence is capable of during until we wait for few years from now to see how things are going to go like. This AI is going to be used more for evil and we need to be prepared for the worse because the time is coming to us as soon as possible. Even the government may not be able to control it themselves.

Few years is a long time, the way things are moving, we will probably know the impact of AI on gambling and Poker in a year or two. Artificial Intelligence is growing fast and almost every field of life is affected by it. In most of the cases, it is used in a good sense but we should not forget that people will also try to use it in a negative manner.

Quote from: dkbit98 on April 29, 2023, 04:49:40 PM

Someone posted a link for free ChatGPT in forum so I had some time to experiment and talk with ''him'' and I am not impressed with answers I was getting.
If this conversation was taking place in forum I would most likely report this user for plagiarism, he is just copy-pasting bunch of stuff all the time.

There is only one official chatGPT which is free to use (although you can buy the premium version of it). The purpose of this AI is that you can get a lot of data and information from it and then use it. It's not meant to just copy paste the stuff only. There are many use cases of AI and chatGPT and people are using it cleverly for saving time and achieving other purposes.

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