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Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 04:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

I've never tried it and to be honest I'm not a poker player, so I can't understand exactly what can ultimately harm players if what you mention will actually be implemented in online poker games, but I remember what Elon Musk said about AI technology which is used on ChatGPT

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“AI is more dangerous than, say, mismanaged aircraft design or production maintenance or bad car production, in the sense that it is, it has the potential — however small one may regard that probability, but it is non-trivial — it has the potential of civilization destruction,” Musk said in his interview with Tucker Carlson, which is set to air in two parts on Monday and Tuesday nights.

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So what he said was a warning that there would be drastic changes that could happen to human civilization, including online games. Maybe returning to the land base casino will be an alternative unless AI has also entered offline games.

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I am not using ChatGPT too and I may not even try it even if someone suggested it to me.
The thing is, this is still a computer-based intelligence which means what he does will be a repeatable cycle only. It doesn't have its own decision-making when it comes to crucial moments. This is the other reason why they won't use AI as pilots for aircraft because once something goes wrong or a change does happen, it will just decide on what was input in it.
Online poker is still a skill-based game and there are instances where a deciding moment might happen. IMO, an AI will just always play it safe. If someone plays all-in it might even fold at a good hand.

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Quote from: Desmong on April 24, 2023, 07:04:17 PM

This may happen soon because artificial intelligence is something that is going to be used to do many things that we don't know now. Time will come that AI is going to be driving the gambling world all together and it will make things easier for some persons and make life harder for others interm of employment.

myself I will not support the act of using artificial intelligence, former gambling prediction for gambling game so I've not seen artificial intelligence like something that will be adoptable in future time because of when trading bot came out many sems it like something that will last, but today nobody is making use of it

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Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 04:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

This may happen soon because artificial intelligence is something that is going to be used to do many things that we don't know now. Time will come that AI is going to be driving the gambling world all together and it will make things easier for some persons and make life harder for others interm of employment.

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Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 04:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

Gambling, especially poker, is a game based entirely on luck as well as reading your opponent's mind and trying to determine whether or not he/she is bluffing. This is not something that any Artifical Intelligence is currently able to do. Especially not a glorified Let-Me-Google-That-For-You app like ChatGPT. In fact, I would very much prefer a stupid non-human opponent to a real human. Easy money. A real human is unpredictable and sneaky. ChatGPT is very predictable. In fact, I am sure you could write a few lines of code which would alert you everytime ChatGPT tries to "bluff".

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I have never used chatGPT before, and clearly, I am not conversant with its operations, and I also do not know how to play poker, I don't even have an idea of it's mechanics.
But what I have to say here is that, I know most gambling games, most especially, games like poker, to be a dynamic kind of games, this simply means, its a game that requires logic thinking, in as much as chatGPT is a powerful Ai, I do not think it can effectively handle poker, the dynamics in poker will eventually render the Ai useless at a certain stage.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 24, 2023, 11:01:07 AM

I think it will be better if your question says. 'can AI destroy online gambling ' chatgpt is not as great as some new AI on the blockchain this days, for example ChainGPT, the advantage and capability of this AI is bigger, and better than chatGPT, there are others too that introduce newer features.

Some games require real players versus players, and AI will not be able to handle that, since it cannot read other players' minds or comprehend their emotions. AI can only excel at games requiring calculation, and these are the only fields where it can do so well.

In my view, AI or ChatGPT can't destroy poker games, and if this should become possible in the future, there will be a way to prevent AI from gambling online.

of course, gambling site owners won't permit such thing to happen. if they know that someone is using AI to their advantage in online games, and has proven to be working, they would surely stop such services before their vaults will be exhausted owed to AI.
but for now, humans still have the advantage over AI. AI at the moment, are relying on the database or the previous history of the players. however, if their programming becomes too sophisticated, we will know in time if they can beat humans as well when it comes to comprehension.

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I think it will be better if your question says. 'can AI destroy online gambling ' chatgpt is not as great as some new AI on the blockchain this days, for example ChainGPT, the advantage and capability of this AI is bigger, and better than chatGPT, there are others too that introduce newer features.

Some games require real players versus players, and AI will not be able to handle that, since it cannot read other players' minds or comprehend their emotions. AI can only excel at games requiring calculation, and these are the only fields where it can do so well.

In my view, AI or ChatGPT can't destroy poker games, and if this should become possible in the future, there will be a way to prevent AI from gambling online.

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Quote from: Synchronice on April 21, 2023, 04:45:33 AM

There is no way an AI will be capable to destroy online poker gaming. I mean, the game is played between two to ten players, each of them have different combination of cards, there is no way an AI can build a strategy out of thin air because there are a lot of combinations that its opponents may have in hand.
Imagine, an AI can beat a person in chess game because it knows opponent's pieces and knows where they are located. Because of that, an AI is capable to mathematically calculate every possible way and always act according to the best one but Poker is a guess what your opponent has game. If I have good cards on hand, absolutely no one and nothing will be able to beat me.

An AI robot may have an advantage in real-life poker matches if it's advanced and capable to understand the emotions of its' opponents as they change facial expression.

I don't agree with you, because it would mean that good poker players are just lucky, but I don't think it's true because good players know the odds consciously or not, they are able to assess how other players are likely to have better hands than them from the cards dealt on the table and in their hands, and then how they are likely to win or to lose. In addition they are able to guess how other players play when they have good hand or bad hand from what they've seen in the previous round.

Playing poker in real life is very different from playing poker online. In real life, the advantage that great poker players have is that they can control their face, mimics, emotions, they can bluff and imitate as they wish and think is better for them. They are expert in analyzing of when their opponent shows true emotions and when they bluff, this is their job, to be a perfect psychologist during the poker session.

But when they sit on online poker tables, what advantage do they have? I would say, zero. You can't see a face of your opponent, you can't see their mimics, their emotions, you only see what their cards do when its their turn. That's why I think that an AI doesn't have an advantage in games like Poker, Blackjack, etc.

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Quote from: tusandii on April 22, 2023, 12:25:28 AM

Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 04:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

Looks like you wrote the title of the thread with a bit of a mistake buddy so it will make new users who don't understand it feel confused.

I'm not sure Al can be trained to play poker and used to beat online poker.
Al is just an artificial intelligence that we can't possibly rely on as a whole to make bets on a poker game found in online casinos.
Maybe this kind of idea is quite interesting because it can help and give hope to those who always experience defeat in every game.
But the question is, if indeed anyone can make Al in such a way as to beat online poker games, are they mostly gamblers able to adopt Al in order to be able to bet and win online poker?

No matter how hard one tries to create an AI model and train it with any data available on the internet to be able to be a winner in a gambling game, it's never going to succeed because gambling is a game of luck and there is no use of intelligence in the first place, whether there is an intelligent human being or a robot, it's never going to beat the house or another player unless they are lucky.

We understand that Poker is a game of skills as well, but that doesn't necessarily mean that an AI model will be able to master it and beat humans using the previously collected data of Poker hands that were won by experts.

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Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 04:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

Can it really be trained like a human? I am very curious about how responsive AI gets guidance, I think AI is only program-made without any program updates then AI will stagnate in its abilities, I think what you said is quite impossible for me, if indeed in previous trials it succeeded against amateur poker players I think bots can do that too, I've never tried it because I didn't expect that far in the use of AI, But if it's most likely true that AI can be trained and respond to the guidance it gets it would be really crazy, maybe even beat the God of poker turt -row.

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In mathematical aspects, I believe AI will always be two steps ahead of humans but I believe poker is less of a calculation and more of a guessing game, this is not the main issue for my worries about AI in the gambling world

How would you take a gambling platform using smart AI for their games on their platform? I mean most games online are players vs the platform BOT or System, but imagine changing their bot to a more smarter AI, it will be extremely hard to win or what do you think?

I don't know maybe crypto will be safe with AI in the future, there is a project called Dylesium with an AI that's capable of telling you how much is in an ETH address or BNB address in seconds and this bot will even label out all the tokens name and amount one after the other, this is scary, it seems AI can be capable of many things that we don't know.

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Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 04:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

ChatGPT is an AI language model and I think it would be less efficient for gambling related activities.
Instead of that, there can be another AI bot that can be trained on datasets particularly used for gambling bets.
It can include more sophisticated implementation of programs which generate better outcomes than the traditional ChatGPT.
It CAN be possible but it would require time and repeated enhancements before it could be actually used in production.

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That's why I am more interested in playing against real players who are not any AI based trained model and it's fun to have real game touch with them seeing different strategies.But yes AI is becoming more of trend and could be used in different ways but human mind is more capable of building new strategies but as you said against amateur players it can be tactfully be used to make them loose.With more use more ways it can be used against humans.

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Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 04:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

I haven't used ChatGPT myself and don't know how it could be used in a gambling setup. Don't you need some coding experience to make sure the AI does the right thing? There are also thousands of TV footage over the years from big tournaments that could be used to feed the AI with data. One question would be what kind of computer do you need for the AI to analyse so much data. On my old machine this would probably take a lifetime. Maybe NASA can offer us some supercomputers to run the data. As long as the AI can read the life gameplay data it could give us some strategy on how to play. But as most of the big tournaments are being played offline, I don't see any risk of AI taking over here. There has been TV coverage of poker tournaments for more than 30 years, they have a lot of security in place so that people don't cheat. Even with the best strategy there is still randomness involved in poker, the AI doesn't know the exact cards of our opponents and therefore can't give us a 100% winning strategy. To a certain extent there will always be luck involved in poker.

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Quote from: bitbollo on April 21, 2023, 05:05:43 AM

I believe that there is just a big hype behind AI and a whole series of ad hoc messages released by various media campaigns are trying to sell this technology as something "incomparable".
I don't believe at all that we are so close to systems that are so strong that they beat human nature in itself.

I don't think that AI is just an empty hype or a fad that will soon pass and instead this is just a beginning. As a matter of fact, I don't think that people understand all the dangers but then again AI development was inevitable anyway.

Quote from: bitbollo on April 21, 2023, 05:05:43 AM

I don't believe at all that we are so close to systems that are so strong that they beat human nature in itself.

We have computers that are beating people in chess since 1997 and Kasparov-Deep Blue match so I don't think that we are that far from that moment.

Quote from: gunhell16 on April 23, 2023, 02:34:46 AM

So, I think it's impossible for AI to beat poker online in my own assessment only.

Yeah, computers are so bad at poker that varios poker programs that suggest you opotimal play are forbidden to use.

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Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 04:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

First of all, I have no idea about AI regarding its relevance to poker online, because all I know is the natural poker game and the online game, as long as I know I only have no emotions or feelings.

So how can Ai lose this thing if talking about the natural feeling of a natural human being? So, I think it's impossible for AI to beat poker online in my own assessment only.

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Quote from: Renampun on April 22, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 04:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

the development of AI continues to occur, but along with that the development of AI detectors and anti-AI also emerges, so when AI is able to become a great poker player, I'm sure many gambling sites that prohibit the use of AI or add rules will ban users who use AI, so for players who really master poker, no need to worry about the emergence of AI.

I agree with you that in every development of AI, one day gambling will definitely develop an anti-AI system that can prevent poker players from using AI.
Actually I was curious what if I really used AI to bet on poker but in reality it would be very difficult.
Because AI still has many limitations that cannot be relied upon in poker betting and I think that if AI hype later becomes hype for poker, many gambling sites will definitely refuse.

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Quote from: paxmao on April 21, 2023, 04:30:35 AM

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

Yes, it would be, but it's not perfect like humans. As we know, a robot is made by human which has to think better about what they made, that possible AI and bot ChatGPT will replace poker player in near future. But we have to not forget Ai does not have the feelings that poker players have, The feeling is 1 of the important things a must player have if want to big wins, while AI, we know they are smart but they don't have EQ and also SQ where both is only have by Human.

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Quote from: Taskford on April 22, 2023, 06:57:04 PM

Try to look at the current feature have by those AI it shows that they only have data's from past events and cannot give a real time information. So there's nothing to worry about AI thing since if your skilled in poker game still you have advantage to win over those guys trying to use it.

But maybe later on AI could be advance on everything and this is more dangerous or sometimes beneficial so let see what will be the future updates on this technology.

AI can still be more advanced in all respects in the future, especially if the developers will do more development. And AI may also be able to obtain or calculate data from past and present events, which can provide predictions that might occur in a match.

But if people feel that they don't need to use AI in collecting these data, they will not use it and will choose to use the methods they are used to because they have already benefited from it.

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