Can maths help you win in gambling ? - page 17.

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Quote from: fiomcorka on December 21, 2017, 01:47:19 AM

How math can help a gambler to win a game because as far as my knowledge is concerned, gambling is totally a luck dependent thing. It is just like crossing a river just by looking with your eyes on to other bank. If math really was so helpful for the gambler to win the game.

Then all gamblers who have a good knowledge of math would have never lost any game they have played in their lives. Math can only help the gambler to maintain his records.

It does not mean that you cant los eif you are good in math but it means that you have a good chance to know your chance. It is like you are going to have better knowledge of your chances so you could make better decision to stop or to continue. Although I think that most gambler will not bother with this kind of thing as they will choose to continue

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Sure thing math helps when gambling, maybe not the actual math but being number friendly is a huge advantage

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In poker games, math can be used to measure card speculation owned by other players, we can think tactically for the potential probabilities that will appear in every last round of cards. math in speculation is very important and we must understand it well, many people just rely on intuition, it is not an important factor but still potentially better.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 06:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Maybe they computed the force they put on the roulette game. But it will not always on the math, being lucky and unlucky in the game. We can't predict and analyze the situation when you are in the game. You have high intensity by playing the games and gambling. You can't solve by math by winning those games like roulette, bet hi-lo and etc.

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Quote from: xPPx on December 21, 2017, 02:30:59 PM

Math/statistics can raise the odds of you winning as far as gambling. I'd never do the digital casino thing, though. I use online for sportsbetting and go to a casino for anything else. Good luck!

Yeah I definitely agree in this, maths can help when it comes to sports betting and some card games (poker). As far as slot games go.. I wouldn't trust any system when it comes to that! Roulette and black jack i only play at land based casinos.

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Quote from: Uno17 on December 15, 2017, 07:33:53 AM

interesting😃... sometimes it helps because in gambling you need to be alert also in figure, it makes sense when you’re good in mathematics because usually a gambler is fast to calculate on figures, therefore yes math can also help in some ways, but of course in gmbling, Luck also plays role always, because if it is your lucky day day, it should be your win day too😃

I completely agree with your saying that gambling is completely luck based thing. If you are lucky person, you will enjoy gambling and if the case is opposite then there will be no bigger hatter of gambling seen than you in the market. As far as my knowledge of gambling is concerned, there is no math formula introduced in the market which can be applied on gambling and the loser can become the winner.

no math formula of course to make you always win in gambling , it is so delusional.

people frustrated to have too much lost , they looking for an excuse and think that math with statistics , data and several calculation could really help you out from a losing streak. i don't know for sure if there is a real gambling math, all i know gambling are -EV, that's all.

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Math/statistics can raise the odds of you winning as far as gambling. I'd never do the digital casino thing, though. I use online for sportsbetting and go to a casino for anything else. Good luck!

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 20, 2017, 12:13:45 AM

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Quote from: lexamagic on September 27, 2017, 06:44:55 AM

I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

Yes, that's true. Even if you are very good in math, it will not help you to win the gambling game because in gambling it does not depend on how you play it. But it depends on your luck of winning. If you are really lucky on that day, then surely you will win but if you are not lucky, of course you will always lose the gambling game.

I don't agree with that, maybe we can give an exemption on luck based games as the name itself it's only based on luck, but the reality is there are people who are profitable in gambling so it's not possible to be in the same position they are enjoying. If we are good in math and we develop that then I believe we have a chance to win if we will play gambling which is skilled based games, of course there's lot of its kind but you have to focus only on one game.

Yes mths and calculation can be helpful but only in some formates of gambling. We cannot depend on our calculation, experience and trading skill, because in some gambling games we need our good luck where we totally depend on our luck. For example in slots and dice gambling and in lottery we are totally depend on our luck and our calculation cannot play any role there. While in sports gambling there we we need to have some calculation and knowledge about the teams and their players if we want to get the expected result from sports gambling.

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Quote from: Dhaaaw on December 17, 2017, 10:13:32 AM

Well all gambling games without exceptions, have probabilities in them and grasping that concept is what will make you win more. Math is a powerful tool and it could make a beginner guy have a better win ratio than someone who have been playing for a long time and doesnt have any clue in probabilties or statistics.

How math can help a gambler to win a game because as far as my knowledge is concerned, gambling is totally a luck dependent thing. It is just like crossing a river just by looking with your eyes on to other bank. If math really was so helpful for the gambler to win the game.

Then all gamblers who have a good knowledge of math would have never lost any game they have played in their lives. Math can only help the gambler to maintain his records.

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Quote from: Groundbit on December 17, 2017, 09:15:11 PM

it will only help in sport.. in casino game such as roulette,cards,etc there is no hope.. house always win Grin

It also does not help you in sports. Sport betting also will never be perfect predicted, for example there is a football match last night. Bristol who beat Manchester United. I'm sure people's predictions will fall on Manchester united because logically, manchester united is way above the Bristol level. But sports are not like math, nothing is sure there.

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When you bet as an expert in a game of gambling you already take into account your 'experience' which is nothing but fixed patterns in your brain and how you are well used to the game. Mathematics also can deal with these patterns in terms of probabilities and can help to some extent in predicting the outcome of a bet.

Tossing a coin can give you head or tail. 50% chance for either of the two. But if you continuously get a 'tail' it is just a coincidence but the person tossing the coin and which coin is used and where it is being tossed - all these can be accounted for - to create a pattern in prediction. In the same way in any gambling maths can help to a certain extent.

But when you take games like blackjack or roulette the number of parameters affecting the game are very high. Further, the variance is too high to make a prediction as the study probabilities will not help determining the outcome. It is alright to play once in a while but continuous gambling will lead to doom! All prediction is to help you at what time point you should stop playing!

Predictions are almost always non-existent, I agree with you there.. Getting stuck in a mindset that you somehow can tell the future is extremely dangerous and even though you may have been lucky 10 times in the past that does not mean you will automatically be correct the next 10 times.

I agree that the patterns some people get suck in are dangerous. I should know as I've been stuck in the same mindset previously.. All good now though Cheesy

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Although predictions is a risky factor, yet the use of logic and intelligence is badly needed in some kinds of gambling. For example, in poker and canasta, the use of logic is essential in guessing the cards of your opponent. In addition to that, the mathematical concepts such as probability and statistics are the one you should be slightly familiar of. However, following the patterns can give shocking results if you show carelessness.

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that's because most gamblers compute their gambling when they win it often loses the way someone else does so you earn in gambling because my friend did it sometimes and he won that procedure but 2nd time he made it again That strategy is that he loses because of that gambling, winning is losing.

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Well as for me I don't believe that mathematics will be of help when it come gambling. Though a friend of mine told me recently that mathematics can be of great help for you to win or be successful in gambling and that has helped him on several occasion in wining gambling.

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Probably it can. At least it will help you realize the risks involved especially with the house edge getting added into the mix of things.

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Quote from: Fasunathan on December 19, 2017, 10:23:28 PM

Quote from: lexamagic on September 27, 2017, 06:44:55 AM

I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

Yes, that's true. Even if you are very good in math, it will not help you to win the gambling game because in gambling it does not depend on how you play it. But it depends on your luck of winning. If you are really lucky on that day, then surely you will win but if you are not lucky, of course you will always lose the gambling game.

I don't agree with that, maybe we can give an exemption on luck based games as the name itself it's only based on luck, but the reality is there are people who are profitable in gambling so it's not possible to be in the same position they are enjoying. If we are good in math and we develop that then I believe we have a chance to win if we will play gambling which is skilled based games, of course there's lot of its kind but you have to focus only on one game.

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Quote from: lexamagic on September 27, 2017, 06:44:55 AM

I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

Yes, that's true. Even if you are very good in math, it will not help you to win the gambling game because in gambling it does not depend on how you play it. But it depends on your luck of winning. If you are really lucky on that day, then surely you will win but if you are not lucky, of course you will always lose the gambling game.

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Quote from: Caladonian on December 19, 2017, 01:37:38 PM

Quote from: SiDtHeBeSt on December 18, 2017, 11:47:44 PM

Well, I don't think so that there is any method you can actually use to win gambling. Maths can't actually help you in gambling as maths is about calculations and gambling is all about luck. You will just need to depend on your luck to win gambling. Especially in roulette there is no such thing you can do with maths, the only thing you could possibly do is predict what might come next and rely on your luck.

As always mention it can be use as basis but no assurance that it will give us good result, its still luck that we can depend in terms of gambling
without luck we will keep losing even we try to calculate the numbers of games and each losing or winning streak, we should always remember
its all about luck and nothing else.

Those math calculations is just being used to add up some spice on our gameplays because it would really be boring if we do just randomly put bets and roll out. People do have different treatment or way on how they would enjoy the game but most people are really relying and hoping that those math calculation would really work to help them win which we know it is an impossible thing.

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Quote from: daringdiscovered on December 18, 2017, 07:20:38 AM

Quote from: Luwi on December 15, 2017, 10:39:22 AM

I'm not sure mathematics can affect the victory of a gambling. I am more sure if a gambler makes more practices on his or her skills and being good at playing a gambling trick, then a greater victory may become hers or his.

I don't think either that skills could help you in gambling because as far as I know, gambling is still more of luck than skills. Well, skills could help you on some games in gambling, like poker and gambling prediction, but in the end, you could see that luck is still the one you need in gambling. If you are playing gambling thinking of a way where you could earn profits, and too desperate to win, well sad to say but you are just going to lose your money.

I agree. I play poker, NL Hold'em namely, on a level above average, but if luck is not on your side you really can't do much. For example if you have two Aces on pre-flop and some player who's always bluffing goes all-in, you go all-in too, and technically you are right, especially when you see his cards, 7 and 8 not suited. But if there are no Aces then and two 7s, you lose because you have Two Pair and he has Three of a Kind.

No, math can't help you to win in gambling. If it was the case all mathematicians would be the richest men on Earth.

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Quote from: SiDtHeBeSt on December 18, 2017, 11:47:44 PM

Well, I don't think so that there is any method you can actually use to win gambling. Maths can't actually help you in gambling as maths is about calculations and gambling is all about luck. You will just need to depend on your luck to win gambling. Especially in roulette there is no such thing you can do with maths, the only thing you could possibly do is predict what might come next and rely on your luck.

As always mention it can be use as basis but no assurance that it will give us good result, its still luck that we can depend in terms of gambling
without luck we will keep losing even we try to calculate the numbers of games and each losing or winning streak, we should always remember
its all about luck and nothing else.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 06:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

For me its true mostly person who always done gambling is very wiser in mathematics subject ,and i can prove that,because my friends is so addicted in gambling poker,cockfighting and mahjong games.when we go to school he always recieve a medal because he is so clever in this subject given,and when i ask him why he so very wise when its comes to mathematics subject and he answered me because he makes all the numbers as a gambling numerics,everything he see numbers he treated us money in gambling games.

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