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Quote from: harizen on October 27, 2015, 07:37:24 PM

Is this your first forum to visit kabayan??? Activity of a user like posting in a local thread is really not a basis (perhaps in every forum) for a user to be considered as INACTIVE.

this is not my first forum buddy, ive been in several forums before i came here

Quote from: harizen on October 27, 2015, 07:37:24 PM

And for your example, Dabs last activity is October 23. And he is not the only one qualified for being a mod. Im not posting too much in the local thread too but I watched it everyday, let's say Im a legendary rank now, so you can consider my status as inactive?

thats not my point, what im saying is they dont have so much time to spend in this forum or atleast in our local thread so they can monitor it everynow and then specially when it is needed, ranks only matter for the purpose of they are here for a long time now and they know all the rules here

Quote from: harizen on October 27, 2015, 07:37:24 PM

You edit your post thats why I didnt answer the last part. Well our topic is moderator. Dont include other matters here you are out of line with the discussion I replied of. I posted because of the moderator thing that you post.

i said that part because a moderator is really needed if the kind and quality of posts that are posted in the local will stay the same as it is right now and you know what i mean Cheesy

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Quote from: mark coins on October 27, 2015, 07:27:27 PM

I am a filipino. Can you tell who is active and high ranked user that is active in the local board? Even Dabs isnt active right? I mostly see member and full members for almost 1week now, Sr members are less than 3 in all active users there. Im just saying the truth, no offence buddy. And yes it can be discussed later but you can understand the topics in the local thread (i wont tell here) do you honestly think that we deserve a subforum right now with those kind of posts? Again, im not agaisnt the subforum but lets see the reasons why they cant give it to us

The inactivity of the Pilipino high ranked members in our local board is not really a basis to say that indeed they are inactive in the forum mate. Some of them avoid to spend much time on the local board as you know the rules that once you had your account too involved in the local board, it's a low quality one. I believe that there are here in the forum and just roamig around. I do it often not to post and just read stuffs before so maybe they are doing the same.

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Quote from: mark coins on October 27, 2015, 07:27:27 PM

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Quote from: SFR10 on October 27, 2015, 01:06:14 PM

Maybe at the moment their busy with some other matters that need full attention and that's why they can't give us a sub-forum, perhaps some interference with the development of the new forum... And if the problem would be the translation of the sub section, i'm sure many would help to contribute on that matter and to the last known problem ( who should be the Mod? ), If the problem is not so many active high ranks then maybe some Could contact those members to come back and help the sub-forum being built and if not enough perhaps some sort of voting to who be ( If ever there will be a sub-forum built )

IMO the moderator should be very active not only now when it is needed in the subforum and even if there are high ranking and know the rules well but not active in the local then its wrong again, he should have time to spend in the local so why choose a user that is not really active there? And voting isnt really needed as the position is need to be a trusted user

Look like you are just posting and not reading. Can't you read sbgovac last post? It can discuss later if ever the subsection will be on hand. Also he said that Croatian board got their moderator later after they have been granted their own section. And how did you know that our Pinoy high rank are not active today? You are just making conclusion that they are not active. Are you basing for their daily post to be consider as active?

I am a filipino. Can you tell who is active and high ranked user that is active in the local board? Even Dabs isnt active right? I mostly see member and full members for almost 1week now, Sr members are less than 3 in all active users there. Im just saying the truth, no offence buddy

Is this your first forum to visit kabayan??? Activity of a user like posting in a local thread is really not a basis (perhaps in every forum) for a user to be considered as INACTIVE. And for your example, Dabs last activity is October 23. And he is not the only one qualified for being a mod. Im not posting too much in the local thread too but I watched it everyday, let's say Im a legendary rank now, so you can consider my status as inactive? And FYI not all moderators are legendary and need to be high rank as long as it is trusted like you said.

Nahhhh no worries and even that's a truth Im not a kid that can offend easily with that small thing Im just post because you are mislead in some of the post.

Edit : You edit your post thats why I didnt answer the last part. Well our topic is moderator. Dont include other matters here you are out of line with the discussion I replied of. I posted because of the moderator thing that you post.

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Quote from: harizen on October 27, 2015, 07:21:03 PM

Quote from: mark coins on October 27, 2015, 06:56:35 PM

Quote from: SFR10 on October 27, 2015, 01:06:14 PM

Maybe at the moment their busy with some other matters that need full attention and that's why they can't give us a sub-forum, perhaps some interference with the development of the new forum... And if the problem would be the translation of the sub section, i'm sure many would help to contribute on that matter and to the last known problem ( who should be the Mod? ), If the problem is not so many active high ranks then maybe some Could contact those members to come back and help the sub-forum being built and if not enough perhaps some sort of voting to who be ( If ever there will be a sub-forum built )

IMO the moderator should be very active not only now when it is needed in the subforum and even if there are high ranking and know the rules well but not active in the local then its wrong again, he should have time to spend in the local so why choose a user that is not really active there? And voting isnt really needed as the position is need to be a trusted user

Look like you are just posting and not reading. Can't you read sbgovac last post? It can discuss later if ever the subsection will be on hand. Also he said that Croatian board got their moderator later after they have been granted their own section. And how did you know that our Pinoy high rank are not active today? You are just making conclusion that they are not active. Are you basing for their daily post to be consider as active?

I am a filipino. Can you tell who is active and high ranked user that is active in the local board? Even Dabs isnt active right? I mostly see member and full members for almost 1week now, Sr members are less than 3 in all active users there. Im just saying the truth, no offence buddy. And yes it can be discussed later but you can understand the topics in the local thread (i wont tell here) do you honestly think that we deserve a subforum right now with those kind of posts? Again, im not agaisnt the subforum but lets see the reasons why they cant give it to us

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Quote from: mark coins on October 27, 2015, 06:56:35 PM

Quote from: SFR10 on October 27, 2015, 01:06:14 PM

Maybe at the moment their busy with some other matters that need full attention and that's why they can't give us a sub-forum, perhaps some interference with the development of the new forum... And if the problem would be the translation of the sub section, i'm sure many would help to contribute on that matter and to the last known problem ( who should be the Mod? ), If the problem is not so many active high ranks then maybe some Could contact those members to come back and help the sub-forum being built and if not enough perhaps some sort of voting to who be ( If ever there will be a sub-forum built )

IMO the moderator should be very active not only now when it is needed in the subforum and even if there are high ranking and know the rules well but not active in the local then its wrong again, he should have time to spend in the local so why choose a user that is not really active there? And voting isnt really needed as the position is need to be a trusted user

Look like you are just posting and not reading. Can't you read sbgovac last post? It can discuss later if ever the subsection will be on hand. Also he said that Croatian board got their moderator later after they have been granted their own section. And how did you know that our Pinoy high rank are not active today? You are just making conclusion that they are not active. Are you basing for their daily post to be consider as active?

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Quote from: SFR10 on October 27, 2015, 01:06:14 PM

Maybe at the moment their busy with some other matters that need full attention and that's why they can't give us a sub-forum, perhaps some interference with the development of the new forum... And if the problem would be the translation of the sub section, i'm sure many would help to contribute on that matter and to the last known problem ( who should be the Mod? ), If the problem is not so many active high ranks then maybe some Could contact those members to come back and help the sub-forum being built and if not enough perhaps some sort of voting to who be ( If ever there will be a sub-forum built )

IMO the moderator should be very active not only now when it is needed in the subforum and even if there are high ranking and know the rules well but not active in the local then its wrong again, he should have time to spend in the local so why choose a user that is not really active there? And voting isnt really needed as the position is need to be a trusted user

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Maybe at the moment their busy with some other matters that need full attention and that's why they can't give us a sub-forum, perhaps some interference with the development of the new forum... And if the problem would be the translation of the sub section, i'm sure many would help to contribute on that matter and to the last known problem ( who should be the Mod? ), If the problem is not so many active high ranks then maybe some Could contact those members to come back and help the sub-forum being built and if not enough perhaps some sort of voting to who be ( If ever there will be a sub-forum built )

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Moderator will not be a problem, there are filipinos been around here for long and some are still active, but not much in Philippines thread because they just being caspers themselves, i saw once before the other guy just posted to warn the filipino who was obeying the rules that time and hes a high rank member, they will surely come when invoke.

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Quote from: mark coins on October 27, 2015, 09:59:28 AM

[...]Probably that another reason why they cant give a subforum for the Phillipines is who will be the moderator. Most active filipinos here aren't high ranking yet and some dont know the rules very well

a. That might be a valid reason, but... Why not say so then? That can be overcome, once openly discussed; BUT,

b. Another sub-section I participate in is the Croatian one and that started even WITHOUT a moderator! (The current moderator was installed MONTHS after the start of that sub-section...)

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Quote from: amacar2 on October 27, 2015, 10:06:34 AM

Quote from: mark coins on October 27, 2015, 09:59:28 AM

Probably that another reason why they cant give a subforum for the Phillipines is who will be the moderator. Most active filipinos here aren't high ranking yet and some dont know the rules very well

Well there are few Pilipinos that has a legendary account in here. Some of them has been in the field of bitcoin and I think they know well enough about the rules. Also I think google translate will work. If not then maybe if mods still think that a veteran Pilipino member is worthy to mederate our requested sub-forum, maybe they can volunteer theirselves tochelp in translating oir language to English. I also think us Pilipinos' won't let those rule breakers to just roam around without doing our role us a member of this forum, that is to maintain order and to keep following the rules.

I agree there are high ranking filipino members here in the forum that know the rules well but the question is where are they? Are they active? The answer is they are not so active here. And for the moderator, admins should have a trust on the possible filipino moderator first before they can grant our request IMO

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Quote from: mark coins on October 27, 2015, 09:59:28 AM

Probably that another reason why they cant give a subforum for the Phillipines is who will be the moderator. Most active filipinos here aren't high ranking yet and some dont know the rules very well

Well there are few Pilipinos that has a legendary account in here. Some of them has been in the field of bitcoin and I think they know well enough about the rules. Also I think google translate will work. If not then maybe if mods still think that a veteran Pilipino member is worthy to mederate our requested sub-forum, maybe they can volunteer theirselves tochelp in translating oir language to English. I also think us Pilipinos' won't let those rule breakers to just roam around without doing our role us a member of this forum, that is to maintain order and to keep following the rules.

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Quote from: sbogovac on October 27, 2015, 09:56:30 AM

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400.000 page views from 250.000 just 7 weeks ago, and still not a section on its own... Undecided

And up to over 450.000 views; up 50.000 (>10%) in just 10 days...

There have been whole sections (like Hebrew for instance) that have not been posted in this entire period...

Can the Philippines PLEASE get their own sub-section? Pretty please?!?

And another 50.000 extra views in just over 10 days...

Over 500.000 page views, HALF a MILLION views...

There are subsections getting moderators appointed with FAR less activity...

Please, can the Philippines get their own sub-section Huh

Hoppa! And just another couple of weeks and the number hit 600.000!!!

Most sub-fora I'm active in (Croatian, Dutch, Serbian) are not even close to that kind of activity...

Strange this group has not got it's own sub-forum yet...

And in just over three weeks another 100.000 (a HUNDRED THOUSAND) views...

Passed 700.000 views and no sub-section...

This is starting to get funny. Lips sealed

Probably that another reason why they cant give a subforum for the Phillipines is who will be the moderator. Most active filipinos here aren't high ranking yet and some dont know the rules very well

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Quote from: sbogovac on October 05, 2015, 05:10:21 PM

Quote from: sbogovac on September 15, 2015, 03:51:32 AM

Quote from: sbogovac on September 04, 2015, 09:01:30 AM

Quote from: sbogovac on August 26, 2015, 04:19:57 AM

400.000 page views from 250.000 just 7 weeks ago, and still not a section on its own... Undecided

And up to over 450.000 views; up 50.000 (>10%) in just 10 days...

There have been whole sections (like Hebrew for instance) that have not been posted in this entire period...

Can the Philippines PLEASE get their own sub-section? Pretty please?!?

And another 50.000 extra views in just over 10 days...

Over 500.000 page views, HALF a MILLION views...

There are subsections getting moderators appointed with FAR less activity...

Please, can the Philippines get their own sub-section Huh

Hoppa! And just another couple of weeks and the number hit 600.000!!!

Most sub-fora I'm active in (Croatian, Dutch, Serbian) are not even close to that kind of activity...

Strange this group has not got it's own sub-forum yet...

And in just over three weeks another 100.000 (a HUNDRED THOUSAND) views...

Passed 700.000 views and no sub-section...

This is starting to get funny. Lips sealed

EDIT:

So if we look at the "top-5-Other languages/locations" per views, we see:

Pilipinas (Philippines) 706766
Српски (Serbian) 146658
Việt (Vietnamese) 135197
Slovenija (Slovenia) 103488
Česky (Czech) 101228

Sorry, but anyone still defending there is no "need" for a Philippines sub-section I simply can not take seriously anymore... Undecided

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Quote from: Decoded on October 12, 2015, 05:02:47 AM

Quote from: sbogovac on October 12, 2015, 04:49:11 AM

Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on October 09, 2015, 11:18:22 AM

[...]Until you show a need, as in a hundred of users expressing interest instead of a dozen, you won't get a sub-forum.[...]

Again, a load of crap; the Croatian sub-forum was just opened recently and got an moderator appointed just a few weeks ago, but the Croatian sub-forum has WAY less activity and presence that the Philippino thread... (not even close to "hundreds"...)

now i really wonder why admins can't give a sub forum for the Philippines. i cant even see a request thread for the Croatian subforum yet they are given their own

The only reason I know is because of our kababayans that has secondstrade and yobit signature cuz you know participants under the mentioned signature campaigns were monitored closely due to increasing spammy posts and shit posters in the forum. Roll Eyes

And if we're going to check our local thread, mostly you can see them as our thread is not that moderated.

That's just my opinion and I might be wrong but low quality posters on our local thread will be a hindrance on implementing our own sub forum. Still I am hoping one day , we will have our own sub forum.

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Quote from: sbogovac on October 12, 2015, 04:49:11 AM

Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on October 09, 2015, 11:18:22 AM

[...]Until you show a need, as in a hundred of users expressing interest instead of a dozen, you won't get a sub-forum.[...]

Again, a load of crap; the Croatian sub-forum was just opened recently and got an moderator appointed just a few weeks ago, but the Croatian sub-forum has WAY less activity and presence that the Philippino thread... (not even close to "hundreds"...)

now i really wonder why admins can't give a sub forum for the Philippines. i cant even see a request thread for the Croatian subforum yet they are given their own

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Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on October 09, 2015, 11:18:22 AM

[...]Until you show a need, as in a hundred of users expressing interest instead of a dozen, you won't get a sub-forum.[...]

Again, a load of crap; the Croatian sub-forum was just opened recently and got an moderator appointed just a few weeks ago, but the Croatian sub-forum has WAY less activity and presence that the Philippino thread... (not even close to "hundreds"...)

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I feel like the deal with Filipino subforum it is not just about language. Because I can see that most of the Filipinos can communicate in English well.
The thing is - local sections are not created to break language barrier as much as it is a way to support local community and integrity of Filipino bitcoin users.

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I honestly don't see any wrong in giving us a subforum. But, we should at least be patient and do this in a calm and respectable manner.

I also support adding a Philippine subforum for us Filipinos, as there is the need for organization, formality and of course it'd be easier for more Filipinos to come join in the Bitcoin world as it's easier to find the discussions.

I personally did not find the Filipino language THREAD until I was PMed so long ago.

Make one please, thanks.

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Any other strong respond? You refuse to reply my first quoted post. Im expecting a good response from you and I will try to get back to you even Im not good at English but with that post still you didn't get what me or others are pointing out here. There are already 7 pages here.

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Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on October 09, 2015, 11:18:22 AM

@Harizen

It's not a matter of harm its a matter of need and the required resources and issues associated with adding a new Sub Forum. You've made a huge case for "want" but not for the need.

Until you show a need, as in a hundred of users expressing interest instead of a dozen, you won't get a suf-forum.

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Well, you are given the stats if you can just back read. There is obviously a need for it certainly because there are people expressing their interest on bitcoin but cannot interact in the main boards due to their lack of understanding and comprehension in English (not most of us, but there are many), so the only way for them to learn and discuss about bitcoins is through a local sub-forum with different other boards so that different topics that are bitcoin-related could be discussed. We understand that there will be a setback in creating a new sub-forum--it is a time-consuming effort to create yet another sub-forum for the local boards but we are here to help in any way we can as long as there would be a sub-forum created for us. We are not in a hurry, we just want to see if there would be any agreement on the community and the admin panels here on what we are proposing.

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