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November 25, 2020, 05:07:47 PM
Kinda sad that both these casinos and the people who woek for them struggle to make ends meet. And what's even bad about this is the fact that most skills you obtain working for a casino cannot be transferred to their new jobs. So it's going to be a hard time for them getting good at and used to the new work they will be in.
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November 25, 2020, 04:31:38 PM
Now we can see a perfect example that demonstrates huuuge privileges of online gambling and casinos in particular. I bet not only they aren't facing a crisis, while everyone else is, but are actually gaining more revenue now, because the gamblers never stopped playing, right? They switched to online  Lips sealed

Yes and no! Casinos in South East Asia are heavily dependent on tourists. If no one travels, there are no customers. The local population doesn't gamble a lot, firstly because they can't afford it (especially not at the present time) and also such casinos are specially designed for western or Chinese customers.
That's exactly my point! Online casinos were never dependent on tourists and that's why they aren't suffering from customer shortage now. In the meantime, gamblers that used to play in physical casinos will keep on playing, only now for that purpose they'll use online platforms. And it happens all around the world now, so it's only logical to assume that their revenue grows.
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November 25, 2020, 03:49:11 PM
For sure they are affected to the Pandemic so they they need to do that because money is involved for sure they did not have choice.
Many people are lost their jobs due to pandemic many business closed and more them need to less the employees to their companies .
I hope those workers will find a new better job with high salary so they can be able to have money to spend for their needs.
They were. Most of the physical casinos were affected by the virus and the solution for them to reduce their expenses in management and staff is to do a layoff.

And this unfortunate scenario happened. Once the casinos goes back, the laid off employees will be notified for the resume of their duties.

If that's a guarantee then employees would be happy with that, and they will understand that they need to find a temporary job now to feed their family. However, we never know when the old normal will be back, and it's not expected that all of them will come back as others might have already find a new home under their current job.

They dont guarantee, but this will be the best solution. It is always easier to get your employee back, than get a new one, spend time studying him how to work, wait until he understands all and passes tests, and only then release him to the casino to an experienced gamblers.

Of course no one will just sit back and wait when he will be called back. Maybe forcing people to leave was not the best solution, but from casinos position what else could they do? I'm 100% sure that they did not fire them strait after the lockdown period was announced or when casino owner say how their income reduced.
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November 25, 2020, 07:44:14 AM
Things are getting really hard. No one really expected a spike in the number of new infections, although there were predictions that it may happen once winter season starts. For 2-3 months, the pandemic was retreating in the US and other nations, but now the new cases are setting new records. And I expect the worst, when peak winter sets in (by December/early January).
This case shouldn't be politicize like on media, the COVID-19 cases as reported some day ago for the US is that, the figures keep increasing and even the outgoing president cautioned the US citizens not to add more injuries to the current happenings due to the Thanksgiving that's coming. In my opinion, we have to protect ourselves because "when there's life there's hope". These workers involved in the unpaid leave should take this as temporal and not what will be permanent. 

But it has been tackled before and even experts keep on reminding us that if people stays in their own ways of living and won't follow the strict rules and etiquette then surely the infection will even get higher the more we are fighting this.
Making a sacrifice that will ensure the slowing down of this pandemic should be citizens priority for now becasue their lives come first than another. Staying in our various homes to curb the spread of the virus better for everyone, for violating these cautions from the right authorities will only worsen this situation for citizens.

This case shouldn't be politicize like on media, the COVID-19 cases as reported some day ago for the US is that, the figures keep increasing and even the outgoing president cautioned the US citizens not to add more injuries to the current happenings due to the Thanksgiving that's coming. In my opinion, we have to protect ourselves because "when there's life there's hope". These workers involved in the unpaid leave should take this as temporal and not what will be permanent. 
People are trying to paint a picture of starving and cashless casino workers. That is not the case. Everyone is getting their stimulus cheques from the government and that should take care of the necessities for a while. But then you can't expect the casino owners to pay wages to all of their employees, when they are having zero revenues for the past many months.
This should be understood, that these casinos lost much and wanted to ease their workers against their services under patronize and not the obvious going around the internet, thanks for the insight.
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November 25, 2020, 07:24:12 AM
This case shouldn't be politicize like on media, the COVID-19 cases as reported some day ago for the US is that, the figures keep increasing and even the outgoing president cautioned the US citizens not to add more injuries to the current happenings due to the Thanksgiving that's coming. In my opinion, we have to protect ourselves because "when there's life there's hope". These workers involved in the unpaid leave should take this as temporal and not what will be permanent. 

People are trying to paint a picture of starving and cashless casino workers. That is not the case. Everyone is getting their stimulus cheques from the government and that should take care of the necessities for a while. But then you can't expect the casino owners to pay wages to all of their employees, when they are having zero revenues for the past many months.
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November 25, 2020, 06:54:01 AM
Things are getting really hard. No one really expected a spike in the number of new infections, although there were predictions that it may happen once winter season starts. For 2-3 months, the pandemic was retreating in the US and other nations, but now the new cases are setting new records. And I expect the worst, when peak winter sets in (by December/early January).
This case shouldn't be politicize like on media, the COVID-19 cases as reported some day ago for the US is that, the figures keep increasing and even the outgoing president cautioned the US citizens not to add more injuries to the current happenings due to the Thanksgiving that's coming. In my opinion, we have to protect ourselves because "when there's life there's hope". These workers involved in the unpaid leave should take this as temporal and not what will be permanent. 
actually Covid becomes pointing system of the politicians now,some use the pandemic to grandstand over other co politicians and others use to attack the other politicians,so we can't really take it from that.

But it has been tackled before and even experts keep on reminding us that if people stays in their own ways of living and won't follow the strict rules and etiquette then surely the infection will even get higher the more we are fighting this.
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November 25, 2020, 06:47:56 AM
Things are getting really hard. No one really expected a spike in the number of new infections, although there were predictions that it may happen once winter season starts. For 2-3 months, the pandemic was retreating in the US and other nations, but now the new cases are setting new records. And I expect the worst, when peak winter sets in (by December/early January).
This case shouldn't be politicize like on media, the COVID-19 cases as reported some day ago for the US is that, the figures keep increasing and even the outgoing president cautioned the US citizens not to add more injuries to the current happenings due to the Thanksgiving that's coming. In my opinion, we have to protect ourselves because "when there's life there's hope". These workers involved in the unpaid leave should take this as temporal and not what will be permanent. 
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November 25, 2020, 06:35:49 AM
because it is easy for them to get rid of and change workers if ever everything returns to normal. so they don't bother with that much. as an employee you just have to be flexible and you are willing to switch jobs everytime there are such incidents happens.

Unfortunately, it's not that easy for everyone to be able to change to another job, especially for those who have limited skills and those who are no longer young. Moreover, the pandemic situation will make finding a new job even harder.

It would be better if the company provides training for employees who will be laid off, so these employees have provisions when looking for a new job. If the company cannot do this, at least they are willing to work on it by asking the government for help.
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November 25, 2020, 05:38:18 AM


If that's a guarantee then employees would be happy with that, and they will understand that they need to find a temporary job now to feed their family. However, we never know when the old normal will be back, and it's not expected that all of them will come back as others might have already find a new home under their current job.


because it is easy for them to get rid of and change workers if ever everything returns to normal. so they don't bother with that much. as an employee you just have to be flexible and you are willing to switch jobs everytime there are such incidents happens.
and it is normal for a company to lay off a worker if they know they no longer have the ability to pay it and their business can lose money if they tried to continue.
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November 25, 2020, 04:34:33 AM
Now we can see a perfect example that demonstrates huuuge privileges of online gambling and casinos in particular. I bet not only they aren't facing a crisis, while everyone else is, but are actually gaining more revenue now, because the gamblers never stopped playing, right? They switched to online  Lips sealed


Sooner the real casino businesses will adopt online casino and more about the employee or workers they needed must be a worker know more about programming and software issues. And sooner the percentage of non employed will rise. This pandemic has brought to businessman to open up in their mind about online business and transaction. So maybe its a time to switched our minds instead of working at real offices, start worked at our own pace and learned more about digital like online gambling.
yeah that is the sad part because since the Pandemic time People realizes the importance of playing online than Going in Casino houses in which hassle in time and the chance of infection.
So sooner now gamblling operators will focus in engineering how they can put business in online while they wanted to expand the operation,but the employee will be lessen as there is no need in physical workers.
The business owner needs to think about their business, and in this pandemic, they see that the online business can give them the way to still running their business. Maybe some of them prepare to launch their business online and attract their old members to playing, and if that succeeds, they can reduce the expenses to their employee. But at least, the business owner needs to think about their employee
no need to create new instead Online gambling will be the extension of their Live casinos.and if they are going to hire another employee then those are the tech guys in which will be the engineer on how the site be secure without attracting hackers and scammerss.
But the sad part will come to their employee who doesn't get paid for their jobs. It is time for the ex-employee to think about how to solve this and search for new jobs. In this new normal and many limitations from each government in many countries, they need to search for the new job while being careful with the infection that is still around them. Some ex-employees can use the internet to search for new opportunities or make something related to the internet.
Well like what you said gambling owner needs to stay focus in extending the business and will not worry about the feeling of the employees.
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November 25, 2020, 04:04:12 AM
For sure they are affected to the Pandemic so they they need to do that because money is involved for sure they did not have choice.
Many people are lost their jobs due to pandemic many business closed and more them need to less the employees to their companies .
I hope those workers will find a new better job with high salary so they can be able to have money to spend for their needs.
They were. Most of the physical casinos were affected by the virus and the solution for them to reduce their expenses in management and staff is to do a layoff.

And this unfortunate scenario happened. Once the casinos goes back, the laid off employees will be notified for the resume of their duties.

If that's a guarantee then employees would be happy with that, and they will understand that they need to find a temporary job now to feed their family. However, we never know when the old normal will be back, and it's not expected that all of them will come back as others might have already find a new home under their current job.
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November 25, 2020, 12:45:06 AM
For sure they are affected to the Pandemic so they they need to do that because money is involved for sure they did not have choice.
Many people are lost their jobs due to pandemic many business closed and more them need to less the employees to their companies .
I hope those workers will find a new better job with high salary so they can be able to have money to spend for their needs.
They were. Most of the physical casinos were affected by the virus and the solution for them to reduce their expenses in management and staff is to do a layoff.

And this unfortunate scenario happened. Once the casinos goes back, the laid off employees will be notified for the resume of their duties.
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November 24, 2020, 10:25:47 PM
Yes and no! Casinos in South East Asia are heavily dependent on tourists. If no one travels, there are no customers. The local population doesn't gamble a lot, firstly because they can't afford it (especially not at the present time) and also such casinos are specially designed for western or Chinese customers.
If I am right, casinos online are different with physical casinos when it comes to getting a permit. In my country, they are cracking down on this online casinos because most of them are not registered. The gambling economy in my country is not affected because most are situated in Chinese dense areas like China Town, and condominium units so I do not totally agree with the statement that tourists are the source for physical casinos, my country is in SEA too.
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November 24, 2020, 10:14:47 PM
Its a sad but the truth of reality which was already happening today. As soon as the technology keep on upgrading and so the way of life of people should also follow the trend. Its not just we should blend ourselves from the rapid changes of technology will its because we have to do it to be able to earned, and to be able to live. Can't deny the fact that in future there will be less employee and more in digital aspects businesses even gambling or casino business.
Yes, if we can not follow technology, we will still be behind other people without a chance to have a better life. Maybe we need to upgrade ourselves with knowing the current technology to search for a better opportunity to make money. We should use technology, and if we can have the skills and knowledge, we can try to search for the job opportunity on the internet. We already see digital technology applied in many aspects, and we should adopt if we want to follow and have a chance to make money.

If an unpaid employee can improve their skills, they will have more opportunities to get new jobs from the internet. They will not just depend on the job from the real-life because they can create a new business model or have a new customer who will order their services. If the company doesn't need an employee, the employee needs to know what they can do to have a chance to make money to survive in hard situations.
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November 24, 2020, 12:33:49 PM
Now we can see a perfect example that demonstrates huuuge privileges of online gambling and casinos in particular. I bet not only they aren't facing a crisis, while everyone else is, but are actually gaining more revenue now, because the gamblers never stopped playing, right? They switched to online  Lips sealed

Yes and no! Casinos in South East Asia are heavily dependent on tourists. If no one travels, there are no customers. The local population doesn't gamble a lot, firstly because they can't afford it (especially not at the present time) and also such casinos are specially designed for western or Chinese customers.
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November 24, 2020, 09:33:06 AM
For sure they are affected to the Pandemic so they they need to do that because money is involved for sure they did not have choice.
Many people are lost their jobs due to pandemic many business closed and more them need to less the employees to their companies .
I hope those workers will find a new better job with high salary so they can be able to have money to spend for their needs.
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November 24, 2020, 09:00:42 AM


The idea is the following - by looking on how much casinos earn, employee cant believe that the situation when casinos dont have money to pay salaries happened so instantly.

In short?this proves how heartless these people are,without even concern to the people that once laboring them to make their casino grows and wealthy.

Now they took advantage of the situation when the whole world is having sympathy to the affected businesses.

So they can easily do this not fair strategy and decision just to prevent froms pending more for their obligation.
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November 24, 2020, 06:36:48 AM
We must understand that all businesses now or almost since there are some that very functional and in demand in this pandemic are in survival situation in which they need to act constructively to maintain or to let their business breathing.

And kicking some employees is only one of some options.

They must choose either cutting the expenses or total closure in which i believe even these employee won't let to happen.

Because if the casino survive the chance of them going back to work is there,maybe will take some time but still possibilities are there.

I think the problem is not that casinos simply fired employees, but forced them the quit without getting paid vacation compensation, did not tell beforehand that they will need to search for a new job and let them work for 2-4 weeks (dont know how it is usually done in Macau, but in Europe, when the head says you are fire, you still have to work for a month after that announcement (salary for this month is being paid ofc)(if you dont leave by your own decision)).

The idea is the following - by looking on how much casinos earn, employee cant believe that the situation when casinos dont have money to pay salaries happened so instantly.
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November 24, 2020, 03:52:06 AM
Things are getting really hard. No one really expected a spike in the number of new infections, although there were predictions that it may happen once winter season starts. For 2-3 months, the pandemic was retreating in the US and other nations, but now the new cases are setting new records. And I expect the worst, when peak winter sets in (by December/early January).

What if I told you that people actions are responsible for rise in new cases. Once people start doing what is good and moral, things calm down abit... but once heart are hardened, the world becomes more vulnerable. People are literally killing/affecting others, and themselves when they do what is evil.
We have to humble ourselves and ask GOD for mercy. I strongly believe HE will listen and the virus will be stopped.

By the way, businesses need to be allowed to function while they follow the health safety rules. Shutting down businesses whether they follow the rules or not is not a good idea
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November 23, 2020, 11:59:11 PM
Many casino owner find it difficult to pay all their workers salary because of covid-19 that is caused some many country hardship over 8 months and some weeks. Many gambler don't too have enough money to gamble in gambling center base on what pandemic has caused to their business, that is making everybody to stay at home, not to contact the virus that is killing people all over the country.
Many casino center has reduce, since we enter pandemic which is causing the manager of casino not to pay his  workers over 8 months. Many of the workers are not happy with the unpaid salary which is affecting the gambler not to win as usual because of the attitude the workers are developing in the casino center.
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