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November 19, 2020, 12:18:12 AM
Wondering how many of them needs to suffer until days come that gambling world recovers and operation comes to normal again?
i believe that when the early of pandemic days it is Las vegas suffers the same as many casino workers need to stop working and cry for help from their employees.

Sad to know but nothing can help them but to keep fighting and find other job for now.

Casino will recover soon but just need some time and government as well letting them operates again normally.
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November 18, 2020, 11:49:28 PM
It is going to be a tough situation for the casino owners. And let's remember the fact that not all of the casinos are owned by billionaires like Sheldon Adelson. A number of them are owned by small-scale owners such as various native American reservations. So I don't expect all of these casinos to have enough cash reserves to pay their employees even if they remain closed for an extended period.
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November 18, 2020, 08:10:25 PM
You worked long in the casino or you worked for a short amount of time, it doesn't matter as of this moment so what is the weird thing about that?? What do you expect?? Those who worked for them for a longer time will stay and those who worked shorter will leave?

We saw already the effect of the virus in all of the industries and casinos are one of the most hit ones since there are no gamblers who are willing to gamble therefore their revenues go down.

Feel sad for the employees but if they just know how to manage their money properly, they will not suffer on this pandemic.
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November 18, 2020, 07:29:26 PM
We call that the "no work, no pay" policy. Well I am not sure why it is being discussed now during the pandemic times, when this is common place in many areas before the pandemic. Sure we can pity those who cannot work because they were being asked to take a leave of absence. Where I come from, some of them just move on and apply to other jobs that will accept them. We call it "moving on" and I see this as a lack of a solid labor laws in the area. One just have to move on. If he or she is a migrant worker then they could go to their respective countries and ask for government assistance.
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November 18, 2020, 06:02:57 PM
We cannot blame companies doing the lay-offs because they probably can’t afford to operate after the lockdown anymore but they should have atleast compensated well their employees. Macau’s temporary closure of casinos could really hurt their industry, employees switching to other jobs is inevitable in tough times like this.
No, we can blame. First of all, they make tons of money and salary isn't that high in every company, in overall proportion of income / salary is very high and illogical. And another example that I can tell you is that Evolution Gaming left up to 1500 worker without job, just in one day. Is this fair? They are really making tons of money and pay tiny amount of money to their workers (still good in their country but...) and instead of paying some money to their employees on covid situation that was worse for everyone, they decided to just ignore them (forget lawsuit, they would win because of great lawyers and bad country).

Its indeed a tiny proportion but do you consider on how many employees that you would need to support on? It might be just good for first or second aide but
talking on supporting them for the rest of the pandemic situation? Then it does sound on not to be that appealing at all because no business will survive if they
would able to do so.They did really make tons of money but it isnt really that responsibility that they would support them for the rest of their lives.
For temporal basis then it would be good if they do show up some concern but if not then theres nothing you can do.
You got the point, it is not the employers or the casinos responsibility to support their workers until the end of this pandemic. This company probably given the basic support needed, but they need to do things as cost cutting to avoid losing the company. If the workers will understand this, they should know that this is only for the sake of the company, so that they still have a job to come back once this pandemic is over.
Will be good if past employers would consider their employees to get them back once they had able to recover but i doubt that they would do such thing but for an owner
who do really think of his own past workers and the contribution that they made then most likely they would really be ending up such situation or option but for now
theres no other thing to be done but to lay off those works for the sake of companies survival.They should at least understand on why such decisions had been made,
if this pandemic didnt exist then this thing wont really happen.
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November 18, 2020, 05:54:17 PM
The problem is that many casino workers expect to be paid when they are home, because casino workers have no other income
to buy food and other daily necessities. Finally the casino is blamed because it is considered not responsible for its workers,
that's the current condition in some casinos based on articles I read on the internet.

So the lesson I can take is that if we are employees who work for the company, we must have another source of income. Because if
there is a bad incident like now with a pandemic, don't be confused if it is sent home without payment, because we cannot blame the
company or the casino for not paying its employees in a pandemic situation like now. Because they also don't have the funds to pay
their employees, because that's a fact that happened.
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November 18, 2020, 05:13:10 PM
We cannot blame companies doing the lay-offs because they probably can’t afford to operate after the lockdown anymore but they should have atleast compensated well their employees. Macau’s temporary closure of casinos could really hurt their industry, employees switching to other jobs is inevitable in tough times like this.
No, we can blame. First of all, they make tons of money and salary isn't that high in every company, in overall proportion of income / salary is very high and illogical. And another example that I can tell you is that Evolution Gaming left up to 1500 worker without job, just in one day. Is this fair? They are really making tons of money and pay tiny amount of money to their workers (still good in their country but...) and instead of paying some money to their employees on covid situation that was worse for everyone, they decided to just ignore them (forget lawsuit, they would win because of great lawyers and bad country).

Its indeed a tiny proportion but do you consider on how many employees that you would need to support on? It might be just good for first or second aide but
talking on supporting them for the rest of the pandemic situation? Then it does sound on not to be that appealing at all because no business will survive if they
would able to do so.They did really make tons of money but it isnt really that responsibility that they would support them for the rest of their lives.
For temporal basis then it would be good if they do show up some concern but if not then theres nothing you can do.
You got the point, it is not the employers or the casinos responsibility to support their workers until the end of this pandemic. This company probably given the basic support needed, but they need to do things as cost cutting to avoid losing the company. If the workers will understand this, they should know that this is only for the sake of the company, so that they still have a job to come back once this pandemic is over.
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November 18, 2020, 04:57:34 PM
I think they might be unidentified error somewhere that prompts casinos workers not to be paid, I think in this situations it normally generate nuisance if not handle with precautions to identify the proper reason while workers has not been paid within some times now, I'm suggesting that the blame should not go to casino management but someone should put some certain situations of things into consideration, and I noticed that the only thing that can affects these casino of things not to be paid might result out as a result of down fall of economy, that's from my perspective.

People are still scared to go out and casino managements needs to take some action not  to lose more money, there's nothing that both side can do

for now, the workers needs to accept what's happening they are witnessing how the business move during this time. Instead of removing them they

are being forced to take leave of absences to cut the expenses.

If they have any options to change careers it will not be hard for them to go and find other jobs or other alternative that can give them sources of incomes.
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November 18, 2020, 04:38:08 PM
People really think that since the authorities allowed the casino to reopen, they immediately started earning money like before. Some even quote impressive statistics on the growth of casino visits in October compared to September. However, no one compares how many people visited the casino before the pandemic and now. I think the numbers will differ several times. That's why they decided to fire their employees.
The truth is that all industries and sectors of the economy that depended on people spending money on things that they didn't needed have faced a downturn, it's not only casinos but look at restaurants, cinemas and any other business model that depended on money spending from people just because, and you'll find out that their profits have gone down significantly, and this is because people are afraid and they want to spend money only on what is necessary and also because a lot of people have lost their jobs and they do not have money to spend.

You say so "sectors of the economy that nobody needs". I don't think that's the best formulation. People also need cinemas, restaurants, gyms, casinos and other leisure facilities. Without them, our life would be boring and would remind us of a factory robot's life with breaks to go home to his family.
It's just that in times of crisis, when there is a danger to life and health, people primarily choose the most necessary things without which they will not live. They leave everything else for better times. In addition, with the crisis many people lost their jobs or began to earn less. In this situation, they definitely do not need a casino.
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November 18, 2020, 03:10:28 PM
I think they might be unidentified error somewhere that prompts casinos workers not to be paid, I think in this situations it normally generate nuisance if not handle with precautions to identify the proper reason while workers has not been paid within some times now, I'm suggesting that the blame should not go to casino management but someone should put some certain situations of things into consideration, and I noticed that the only thing that can affects these casino of things not to be paid might result out as a result of down fall of economy, that's from my perspective.
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November 18, 2020, 02:29:42 PM
We cannot blame companies doing the lay-offs because they probably can’t afford to operate after the lockdown anymore but they should have atleast compensated well their employees. Macau’s temporary closure of casinos could really hurt their industry, employees switching to other jobs is inevitable in tough times like this.
No, we can blame. First of all, they make tons of money and salary isn't that high in every company, in overall proportion of income / salary is very high and illogical. And another example that I can tell you is that Evolution Gaming left up to 1500 worker without job, just in one day. Is this fair? They are really making tons of money and pay tiny amount of money to their workers (still good in their country but...) and instead of paying some money to their employees on covid situation that was worse for everyone, they decided to just ignore them (forget lawsuit, they would win because of great lawyers and bad country).

Its indeed a tiny proportion but do you consider on how many employees that you would need to support on? It might be just good for first or second aide but
talking on supporting them for the rest of the pandemic situation? Then it does sound on not to be that appealing at all because no business will survive if they
would able to do so.They did really make tons of money but it isnt really that responsibility that they would support them for the rest of their lives.
For temporal basis then it would be good if they do show up some concern but if not then theres nothing you can do.
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November 18, 2020, 02:21:25 PM
We cannot blame companies doing the lay-offs because they probably can’t afford to operate after the lockdown anymore but they should have atleast compensated well their employees. Macau’s temporary closure of casinos could really hurt their industry, employees switching to other jobs is inevitable in tough times like this.
No, we can blame. First of all, they make tons of money and salary isn't that high in every company, in overall proportion of income / salary is very high and illogical. And another example that I can tell you is that Evolution Gaming left up to 1500 worker without job, just in one day. Is this fair? They are really making tons of money and pay tiny amount of money to their workers (still good in their country but...) and instead of paying some money to their employees on covid situation that was worse for everyone, they decided to just ignore them (forget lawsuit, they would win because of great lawyers and bad country).
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November 18, 2020, 01:56:47 PM
People really think that since the authorities allowed the casino to reopen, they immediately started earning money like before. Some even quote impressive statistics on the growth of casino visits in October compared to September. However, no one compares how many people visited the casino before the pandemic and now. I think the numbers will differ several times. That's why they decided to fire their employees.
The truth is that all industries and sectors of the economy that depended on people spending money on things that they didn't needed have faced a downturn, it's not only casinos but look at restaurants, cinemas and any other business model that depended on money spending from people just because, and you'll find out that their profits have gone down significantly, and this is because people are afraid and they want to spend money only on what is necessary and also because a lot of people have lost their jobs and they do not have money to spend.

If you are just a regular earner or does highly depend on your job then it isnt really ideal to spend up money which is more than on what you do earn and how much more
into this pandemic situation where every cent do counts because we arent earning something specially if you have lost your job then you would really be having that
feeling that you had been fucked up.So the solution? Find some job or some alternative because if you dont do such thing then you would really be having a messed up
life because we cant survive if we dont have any money to spent.
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November 18, 2020, 01:45:01 PM
People really think that since the authorities allowed the casino to reopen, they immediately started earning money like before. Some even quote impressive statistics on the growth of casino visits in October compared to September. However, no one compares how many people visited the casino before the pandemic and now. I think the numbers will differ several times. That's why they decided to fire their employees.
The truth is that all industries and sectors of the economy that depended on people spending money on things that they didn't needed have faced a downturn, it's not only casinos but look at restaurants, cinemas and any other business model that depended on money spending from people just because, and you'll find out that their profits have gone down significantly, and this is because people are afraid and they want to spend money only on what is necessary and also because a lot of people have lost their jobs and they do not have money to spend.
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November 14, 2020, 11:08:58 PM
The Macau gaming enterprise have reported that more than 60% of the Workers working in casinos have been Forced to take Unpaid leave.
So At least this is much better than laying them Off from work totally right?
they must be thankful because the company still concern about them when most of the owners worldwide are kicking their employee out and not giving a Leave.

The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.
i think the Casino owner is bright or i mean Cheater since Older employee can demand for their rights.
Now 8% of them are thinking of switching to new jobs.



Switching Job in this pandemic?who will accept them when most of companies are closing or laying employees?
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November 14, 2020, 11:02:22 PM
Their employers have gambled with their lives and future, those who are left need to think of some way to get out of such situations in the future. They really need to consider and think about what happened to their job mates. That's fine when they think of another way like finding another job because that job that they're currently working is not gonna promise them some good things in the future. despite their hard work, they still consider their employees to be useless and just give them unpaid leave.
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November 14, 2020, 11:01:22 PM
I think those that lost their job and casino workers unpaid during the lockdown, the government is ready to compensate all the citizens in the country. Even some gambler who where isolated in the
isolation center which caused them to spend 7 months and some days in the hospital for a treatment which the government promised to assist all the isolated patient in the country.
Every company in the country experienced failure during the pandemic that caused some employer not to pay all their workers full salary because of the damage the pandemic has caused to different companies in the country.
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November 14, 2020, 09:50:29 PM
Sad to say but they are just like other employees that lost their jobs this pandemic and i believe in USA alone millions has this kind of situation now.

and besides Operators lose huge amount now and they need to do anything just to continue their operation and serve others.

Yes, they are not in any way a special case as this pandemic crisis is around the globe. So getting unpaid leaves these days is just like new normal. Now, it is up to you how you will gonna look for other options how to earn income. You can't really depend your living in one source alone these days. One should be smart to find ways how to extend their income or how to get more from other sources. They are not alone in this battle.

I am sure people will trying to search for another job to get paid. Perhaps, they can get better payment from the new job which can give them a better chance than in the old job. Many people lose their job, not just in the gambling business, but in the other business, and we know that they are suffering because of unpaid leaves. If they can create a new business in this pandemic, that will better because they don't have to search for another job, and who knows, they can recruit their friend to help their business.
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November 14, 2020, 09:35:02 PM
Sad to say but they are just like other employees that lost their jobs this pandemic and i believe in USA alone millions has this kind of situation now.

and besides Operators lose huge amount now and they need to do anything just to continue their operation and serve others.

Yes, they are not in any way a special case as this pandemic crisis is around the globe. So getting unpaid leaves these days is just like new normal. Now, it is up to you how you will gonna look for other options how to earn income. You can't really depend your living in one source alone these days. One should be smart to find ways how to extend their income or how to get more from other sources. They are not alone in this battle.
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November 14, 2020, 08:02:25 PM
Sad to say but they are just like other employees that lost their jobs this pandemic and i believe in USA alone millions has this kind of situation now.

and besides Operators lose huge amount now and they need to do anything just to continue their operation and serve others.
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