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November 09, 2020, 09:47:22 PM
#26
The casino can force its old employee without giving any payment to recruit new employees with a small salary. It is normal to see that it happens, and perhaps, that is not just happening in Macau, but in the other place, that happens too. If we are still at the pandemic, and the government is hard to control their economy, they will not regulate the unpaid leave because that can make the business owner feel difficult to pay their employees. It happens to all businesses with many employees because many businesses have suffered in this pandemic. But many are trying to survive.
That is what businesses has been for a long time, it is not exclusive to casinos. If this was around the pandemic peak, this will raise some eyebrows but they pulled this off in a struggle phase which means this could be a problem for the businesses. This sounds scummy because revenues in casinos are still high which means more takeaway for the owner.
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November 09, 2020, 09:40:11 PM
#25
The casino can force its old employee without giving any payment to recruit new employees with a small salary. It is normal to see that it happens, and perhaps, that is not just happening in Macau, but in the other place, that happens too.

If you are referring to this as normal even if there is no pandemic, I don't agree with you. I am not familiar with the labor laws of Macau but it is probably not allowed to just fire old employees without giving any payment for the sake of new employees with a lower salary.

Casinos can force them to quit working for the casino but only under valid grounds. They cannot just tell an employee that he is done with his job and that he will not be paid anymore.
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November 09, 2020, 09:34:23 PM
#24
The casino can force its old employee without giving any payment to recruit new employees with a small salary. It is normal to see that it happens, and perhaps, that is not just happening in Macau, but in the other place, that happens too. If we are still at the pandemic, and the government is hard to control their economy, they will not regulate the unpaid leave because that can make the business owner feel difficult to pay their employees. It happens to all businesses with many employees because many businesses have suffered in this pandemic. But many are trying to survive.
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November 09, 2020, 09:08:02 PM
#23
Nowadays that there's an ongoing pandemic its not new anymore.
Casinos and other companies are still struggling to survive, the virus is still existing therefore people are not allowed or has a restriction when going out.

So we're not yet back to normal thus this kind of situation is already expected. It seems unfair but we cant do anything about it, they need to operate with less employess to somehow recover their losses and to not end up closing down permanently.

Even there are establishments who are now operating the threat of this pandemic still exist.

Casinos are not exempt so in order to continue and survive they needed to do things like this, not just with this business but everything needs to face this new normal settings, There's no way for the operator to continue paying those people as customers are not being met for the whole operation expenses.

We  are not totally back in a normal that we really knew, it will take much longer as vaccines is not yet available.
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November 09, 2020, 08:47:47 PM
#22
Nowadays that there's an ongoing pandemic its not new anymore.
Casinos and other companies are still struggling to survive, the virus is still existing therefore people are not allowed or has a restriction when going out.

So we're not yet back to normal thus this kind of situation is already expected. It seems unfair but we cant do anything about it, they need to operate with less employess to somehow recover their losses and to not end up closing down permanently.
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November 09, 2020, 08:40:46 PM
#21
~ The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.
What's weird about that? Those who worked with them for a short period of time were probably forced to resign and not a forced leave.
thats not weird but that is an example of unprofessionalism . professional company will value workers that are already working for them for too long or to those that are already regular employees .

 when regular employees leaved or resign they can get a seperation pay and that amount can be huge depending on how long you have been working on the company . forcing to resign is simillar to being forced to leaved but both of them shouldnt be done for employees if they are working properly .
Easy for you to say that what they did is unprofessional because you are still thinking these casinos are operating under "normal" conditions but they are obviously not. I'm just gonna leave it at that. Think of the things you'll do when you are in a losing business because of a special condition like this pandemic.


~ But they could've at least be a bit humane about it. These people they forced to unpaid leaves have mpuths to feed, and most probably would not have much power in theur hands to find a new job right away especially given the fact that the skills required for you to work in a casino don't usually cope well with skills required in other fields, a stipend of some sort can alleviate their employee's problem first and foremost.
Why did you assume they were inhumane? Did you not read their proposals to the Government to help out? Like I said, these businesses are trying to survive too. It would be easy for them to go the easier route which is to completely seize operation after months operating at a loss.
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November 09, 2020, 08:30:49 PM
#20
That's so sad but it is truly happening at our current condition, we are now suffering from the pandemic especially our work outside our home, this pandemic forces some company to lessen their workers just to still enough money for them, well we cannot blame them because that is business and we are all suffering from the pandemic, the good thing here is that on October, they have recovered from the gaming revenue, it happens because the cases of this pandemic become less which results of not having too many restrictions.
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November 09, 2020, 08:16:09 PM
#19
It also happened into my country wherein there are casinos who have bad management when it comes to their employees where they do not treat is a human, If I'm not mistaken that issue became big and a lot of protest happened outside those casinos because of their poor etiquette to their employees. The good thing is there are now news about a certain casino that are doing malpractices to their employees. The casinos in my country are now opening again after many months of close because of pandemic, the jobs are now increasing and the poverty rate is now decreasing and I'm grateful because the covid cases in my country is continuing to decrease.
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November 09, 2020, 07:58:05 PM
#18
It really isn't surprising, isn't it? Heck, I'd be glad if they weren't instead given an amount of money and then forced to resign. Casinos are just trying to make ends meet, so I suppose we can't completely blame them. Though they do share the blame, partly, heck, we all were hit by the pandemic so I really doubt pointing fingers is the way we should move forward.
Did you ever heard about planetwin365 sportsbets gambling platform ?
With the pandemic, the company turn the website into an online gaming interface where gamblers can still bet their chances in new online games. It was a wise step to avoid the infection of the pandemic. I would think why all those casinos didn't thought about something similar instead of fire employments. When the workers leave, this is the worst sign the company isn't to be trusted by anybody .
It's not like all staff could help in developing and managing an online interface though? Not to mention that they only need a few people as technical support, and even if we force it to accommodate as much staff as possible, it still isn't enough to give everyone a chance to work. Not to mention that not every staff of a casino is technically inclined to developing, managing and working in a technical support team. Hell, making online casinos actually cut more employees than a physical casino tbh, not to mention that only specialized personnel could help manage said casino.
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November 09, 2020, 07:52:36 PM
#17
While this is not everyone wanted to happen, it seems they are left with very limited options. The gambling revenue has stopped for months. The operation was completely halted. It simply cannot support the salaries and wages of workers who are not working at all.

In a way, an unpaid leave is way much better than outright termination or laying off of workers because the business has closed. At the very least, the absence of casino work and wage is temporary for them and they could still look forward to the better days.

I guess they are now on the road to recovery.
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November 09, 2020, 07:08:04 PM
#16
Most people who've been working that has an offer of unpaid leaves was a contractual employees or their work based on a project employment. Generally, it always happens in time of pandemic that workers in a specific firms aside from casino will undergo this kind of situation. How much more with this type fo business which is an entertainment gambling operation, that caters the money from people who worked from a company and earn fiat money for a living. In this worst situations of health crisis, casino employees will always be affected due to few gamblers will seek pleasures of their money. Average person prefers money for food not wih gambling.
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November 09, 2020, 06:56:09 PM
#15

At the same time we saw the boost in the gaming revenues:
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Macau’s gross gaming revenue (GGR) dropped by 90% in September but rose by 229% month-on-month in October. The Individual Visit Scheme resumed mid-September and helped boost the economy in a small way, however, the country expects the tourist arrivals for 2020 to drop by 90%.



The growth of income from games occurs only against the background of September. If you compare this figure with October 2019, it will not be in favor of October 2020. That is why we had to send workers on unpaid leave. Casino is not a place that is vital to people during the pandemic, so many refuse to visit, which affects casino income.

Did you ever heard about planetwin365 sportsbets gambling platform ?
With the pandemic, the company turn the website into an online gaming interface where gamblers can still bet their chances in new online games. It was a wise step to avoid the infection of the pandemic. I would think why all those casinos didn't thought about something similar instead of fire employments. When the workers leave, this is the worst sign the company isn't to be trusted by anybody .
Easy to say but the entire switch up from physical to online will really take up some work and do you really believe that those workers would remain? No it wont yet running an online casino
doesnt really need much of manpower thats why lessening out of employees is inevitable.You cant blame them because its just normal to do actions when your business isnt earning that would
compensate the expenses.
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November 09, 2020, 06:47:11 PM
#14

At the same time we saw the boost in the gaming revenues:
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Macau’s gross gaming revenue (GGR) dropped by 90% in September but rose by 229% month-on-month in October. The Individual Visit Scheme resumed mid-September and helped boost the economy in a small way, however, the country expects the tourist arrivals for 2020 to drop by 90%.



The growth of income from games occurs only against the background of September. If you compare this figure with October 2019, it will not be in favor of October 2020. That is why we had to send workers on unpaid leave. Casino is not a place that is vital to people during the pandemic, so many refuse to visit, which affects casino income.

Did you ever heard about planetwin365 sportsbets gambling platform ?
With the pandemic, the company turn the website into an online gaming interface where gamblers can still bet their chances in new online games. It was a wise step to avoid the infection of the pandemic. I would think why all those casinos didn't thought about something similar instead of fire employments. When the workers leave, this is the worst sign the company isn't to be trusted by anybody .
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November 09, 2020, 05:26:38 PM
#13

At the same time we saw the boost in the gaming revenues:
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Macau’s gross gaming revenue (GGR) dropped by 90% in September but rose by 229% month-on-month in October. The Individual Visit Scheme resumed mid-September and helped boost the economy in a small way, however, the country expects the tourist arrivals for 2020 to drop by 90%.



The growth of income from games occurs only against the background of September. If you compare this figure with October 2019, it will not be in favor of October 2020. That is why we had to send workers on unpaid leave. Casino is not a place that is vital to people during the pandemic, so many refuse to visit, which affects casino income.
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November 09, 2020, 04:37:51 PM
#12
~ The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.
What's weird about that? Those who worked with them for a short period of time were probably forced to resign and not a forced leave.

Companies are trying to make ends meet too and they need help from the Government to assist their employees.

I know of a company that recently forced employees to take a one week leave each month. They could have done that as early as March but they didn't.

Now the steps taken  to tackle that :

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Macau government could regulate the unpaid leave, measures could be implemented for an economic rebound, employees could be offered additional training, and the foreign employment quota should be adjusted to protect the local workers.

Macau continues to suffer the effects of the ongoing pandemic, despite some of the slight recoveries taking place in the industry.

*Proposals*


At the same time we saw the boost in the gaming revenues:
Quote
Macau’s gross gaming revenue (GGR) dropped by 90% in September but rose by 229% month-on-month in October. The Individual Visit Scheme resumed mid-September and helped boost the economy in a small way, however, the country expects the tourist arrivals for 2020 to drop by 90%.

That's comparing Sept and October only. How about losses suffered from March?

It also says there that projected tourists arrivals (casino players) are going to drop by 90%. That further justifies the cost cutting by casinos.
But they could've at least be a bit humane about it. These people they forced to unpaid leaves have mpuths to feed, and most probably would not have much power in theur hands to find a new job right away especially given the fact that the skills required for you to work in a casino don't usually cope well with skills required in other fields, a stipend of some sort can alleviate their employee's problem first and foremost.
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November 09, 2020, 03:59:12 PM
#11
~ The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.
What's weird about that? Those who worked with them for a short period of time were probably forced to resign and not a forced leave.
thats not weird but that is an example of unprofessionalism . professional company will value workers that are already working for them for too long or to those that are already regular employees .

 when regular employees leaved or resign they can get a seperation pay and that amount can be huge depending on how long you have been working on the company . forcing to resign is simillar to being forced to leaved but both of them shouldnt be done for employees if they are working properly .
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November 09, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
#10
That's the reality when it comes to a company, you cant hire a bunch of employees working on your company while the revenue is quite short, your company won't survive in that way. Forcing to resign with have benefits like retirements fee or separation fees well I guess employees will start a new job without worrying a week allowance since they got something from the company.

But forced to leave and nothing have got, that is very worst, I guess they need to go to the department of labor that can help to them
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November 09, 2020, 03:35:06 PM
#9
The Macau gaming enterprise have reported that more than 60% of the Workers working in casinos have been Forced to take Unpaid leave.

The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.

Now 8% of them are thinking of switching to new jobs.

Now the steps taken  to tackle that :

Quote
Macau government could regulate the unpaid leave, measures could be implemented for an economic rebound, employees could be offered additional training, and the foreign employment quota should be adjusted to protect the local workers.

Macau continues to suffer the effects of the ongoing pandemic, despite some of the slight recoveries taking place in the industry.


At the same time we saw the boost in the gaming revenues:
Quote
Macau’s gross gaming revenue (GGR) dropped by 90% in September but rose by 229% month-on-month in October. The Individual Visit Scheme resumed mid-September and helped boost the economy in a small way, however, the country expects the tourist arrivals for 2020 to drop by 90%.


Source : https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/10359/60-of-macaus-casino-workers-furloughed-without-pay

Everyone is doing their best to try to survive, a quick calculation indicates that if they lost 90% of their gross revenue and then the next month it went up 229% it means they are experimenting a 32.9% gross revenue compared to August, as such despite the recovery they are only receiving a third of what they were used to, so it makes sense that they still have their workers on unpaid leave.

We must understand that the pandemic has shifted the priorities of people and anything that was a luxury is experimenting a huge decrease in consumption, for example in my country I see a lot of jewelries giving discounts as big as 70% on everything on the store, they are probably selling what they have at a breakeven price and even that is not enough to bring clients to their doors so I suppose a part of the gambling industry is suffering something similar.
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November 09, 2020, 01:53:25 PM
#8
It's sad but not the worse.
We all have been hit hard by the pandemic and without profits from our employers, there is no way they could pay every employee.
You cannot blame them for that. They can provide but they need a share from the government.
Imagine giving away money for a year. How could they start over without capital left in their pockets?
Then, employees will have no jobs to go back to.
This is one of the reasons why I started working from home.

Needed some initiative on our part because its understandable that employers arent earning income so it wont be surprising that they would really be
ending up on with that kind of decision.It is still hard for them but they would need to take action or else they would totally shut their doors if
they would continue to give pay even if they arent earning.So as a worker then we should think up on finding some alternative ways because
we dont know on what would happen next.
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November 09, 2020, 01:46:17 PM
#7
A lot of industries have suffered during the pandemic. But this incident could be the result of one infection from the casino worker.

Searching for some specific or connected news. From South China Morning Post's Youtube channel has posted that Macau casinos will be closed to avoid further infection.

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMPy1Fro4Z4
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