Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 38. (Read 12762 times)

I hope you will never fall victim to a bad casino, maybe you would want to change your stand on this. It is true that most casinos would want to follow the right procedures and exonerate themselves from the AML crimes by asking for KYC at some point, but at times, some will merely want to use it as an excuse, a weapon for not paying your money, particularly when the money is big or you are just a good gambler. This is not new in the industry and I have read many stories which they do not deny since there were proofs. They do this to the extent that they ask for additional documents and verification from those who had satisfactorily passed the KYC beforehand.

To the extent that they will be asking for ridiculous documents, and might continue to reject the ones you had uploaded no matter how perfect the quality and the documents are. This is why the KYC of a thing is so devilish at times that casinos hide under it to penetrate some evil under the guise that they are obeying the law. But with the good casinos and the ones that have integrity, even if they are not regulated, you will hardly see such, or will eventually get resolved, especially when you threaten them with bad reviews and lawsuits.

Yeah, it is what it is with the casinos. They can modify or be stricter with their rules and implementation.

They don't take our funds, they will delay the withdrawal until we comply. But with the stories that their funds were taken, there's a reason behind that.

Speaking about licenses - they dont cost much. In this topic it was discussed, that licenses give no guarantee or does not matter much. I would not say that licenses are something special and they enforce casinos to ask users to pass KYC. In general, licenses are for casinos, not for casino users. I would say that licenses have no connection with KYC at all, as licenses are issued with one institution, but KYC check performs a third party, that casino has contract with. I havent done KYC checking for casinos, but for example when you try to verify account on Bitget exchange, you upload your documents to https://megacheck.vip/ page. Who are those megacheck? Are they reliable? Will my documents be save in their databases?

They are always hiding under legal covering since the law would side with them in this regard. But I will still say that you are not right about the moral standing, they are still morally right if their terms and conditions state it. In the terms and conditions I have read, it has always been stated there that customers might want to deposit a certain amount and withdraw a certain amount without KYC, while some would say you can deposit without KYC but will not be able to withdraw anything without the KYC. By this, the casino/company is already justified.

To make matters worse, people often accept these terms and conditions without reading them, so they are obliged by law to follow through with what they had already agreed to and signed. Now, it is morally right because the casinos already stated their own conditions and you accepted the condition, so there is nothing immoral here in both the civil and formal settings, you shouldn't have signed it if you are not satisfied with it.

This is why I always implore people that they should complete their KYC immediately after they open the account and before depositing a dime if the casino is not a no-KYC one, and if they want to be serious with the company. Some people kick against this approach but I have never seen a better alternative to it and it has been helping me to date.

I did notice up that kind of difference on which in exchangers on which if they had been regulated then they are really that mandatory on having that KYC which it is really that totally different when you are dealing with gambling platforms on which despite of being regulated or being licensed, you could really be still be able to play without exposing your identity but of course on the time that they would really be having those kind of threshold on which once you do be able to hit up such numbers then expect that they would really be asking you out for some verification. It would really be just that fine if you are dealing with a legit site but if not then then you would really be ended up on losing money since those are just simply scams.

This is why it would be always best that you should really know on at least making some research rather than on making yourself do simply stick into those sites
which are just new and cant be trusted.

Legally, they have got themselves covered and no one can do anything about it.

But morally, this is very long. It is like trapping people. Taking their funds without asking for KYC and later when they want to withdraw , you want to ask for KYC. This is like some form of legal robbery and something must be done about this. You did the right thing by outing the platform here.

there are licenses that support and require casinos to enforce KYC for all their users. the same as those charged by the exchange. I understand this as an effort to minimize the abuse of casinos for negative actions. That also applies to exchanges, right?
It is indeed unpleasant when we can create an account easily and make deposits smoothly, but it is difficult and the process takes a long time when we want to make a withdrawal. because we don't own the casino, and we only play there, we have to follow the rules of the game.

Enabling 2FA is an additional security for your funds, so it's better to enable it as it can minimize you losing your money from theft.
As far as the KYC for betting sites is concerned, I myself feel uncomfortable with this, why gamblers have to do the kYC, while betting is still illegal in many countries. Unlike exchange sites that actually require user data because of regulations or to meet their legality requirements.

I agree with you , as long as we need it , any Procedure that has to do with this KYC is Better to do it and quickly, for example, I have always taken that Precaution , I only Complete the KYC with the Casinos that are Firstly Favorites and I follow them. more Reliable , of that I have no Doubt , and they have Manifested themselves in all Cases because I have not had any Problem with it , in this order of ideas things can be very Effective to do any type of things , because we are always in a scenario of games, things can turn out in a good way if and only if we have very good luck and good luck , and whenever this Happens to us and I Want to Withdraw the money , then the fact that we withdraw is Completely Normal so that they do not Put Any type of Restrictions or Obstacles , Because for us it is the best in the world and that is what we must see , there is no other way to do things Better than this, for this Reason we must be People who are Connected with the best , the KYC in them Casinos is Reliable, it is fast and Secure.

I have Noticed that there are some Players who have Problems with this KYC thing because they can do things so well and Quickly , but they are Bad Guys Because they are not as old , they have Changed their Tos and things Probably don't turn out as well as they do, They don't Believe when it Comes to this, because Basically when they are Doing any Kind of thing things can get out of the mnso and a case is not Transparent Enough , they just say that it has to be Deposited and Deposited , there is no notice that says that You cannot withdraw Until you comply with the KYC and many trusting people fall and the most Unpleasant thing is that Some money was Earned and they do not give it to you because you Only have to Deal with that Requeriments , and that is Something that is not good , it is not Viable, and Besides that Casino makes you hate it and they may Say it in an Announcement thread or in a casino Topic , and that makes you lose Customers.

See the bolded part. What i'm saying is "if possible". Who don't want to play anonymously if possible? But as I have said, if you're playing in a centralized casinos expect this to be asked sooner or later. KYC thing is already expected and sometimes inevitable. So to be clear, I will only do this in reputable casinos where I am playing currently and not just in any casinos that are not trustworthy.

Besides, the thread topic where you quoted my reply is an answer for a question about the specific reason of the gamblers on why they're hesitant to submit their personal information. It doesn't mean i'm not willing, it's just my own reasoning. I still stand to what I said there.

To my mind, the problem is that casinos are probably forced to ask for KYC documents but at the same time they don't have good AML/KYC officers. Casinos that work internationally have no idea about documents that come from all around the world. For example, I can't provide a utility bill because, in my country, the system works very differently, you might live in a rented house and the utility will go to the house owner. Also, we don't make any official agreement, e.g. house owner rents a house without paying income tax. So, how can I explain that to the casino's support? They always expect things to work the same in every country. They ask for utility bills, which I can't provide and then they deny my verification process. That's why they have to invest more in acquiring knowledge of how things work in each country they provide support in.

7 weeks ago you have posted completely opposite:


At first you wanted to play anonymously, cared about privacy, was worried about data leak, said that you prefer gambling without passing identity verification. But now it looks like you are first in the line to upload your documents to a casino that has good reputation; reputation that was built on gambling experience, not on privacy experience.

KYC is now being demanded more and more. 
Allegedly, government officials are fighting money laundering this way.  What exactly is money laundering? 
Money in any form is initially only a means for exchanging goods; it does not have any criminal element.  And so, instead of catching criminals with criminal goods, such as weapons, drugs, human slaves, and so on, law enforcement agencies came up with an easier task to find not criminal goods (which, by the way, is irrefutable evidence of a crime), but an easier task - to paint  the money itself is "criminal".  They, the scoundrels, simply made their work and life easier in this way.  And their whole scam spilled over into banks and casinos as well.  I would also like to note that so-called “economic” crimes simply do not exist.  These are just fantasies of legislators in different countries. 
And as a result, billions of law-abiding people around the world are now being fooled by this crap called KYC.

Same thoughts. I only play in casino that has a good reputation. Therefore if I was asked for KYC I will do it especially if there's a decent amount involved. Moreover, once you play in a centralized casinos, KYC is already expected to be ask to their customers (sooner or later). One of the reason why we need to read the ToS before playing on the specific casino. So if we don't agree on their rules, we can look for other site where we can play without worries.

True! Most of the mistakes of the gamblers are that they deposit money and start playing on a specific website without knowing about the KYC. That's why some gamblers may have stock funds on a website because they will pay attention to the KYC if they want to withdraw or if they decide to withdraw their funds, and from that they will know how hard it is to pass the KYC, or worse, they can't pass the KYC because of the information they have or information that they lack and can't provide.

That's why it is important for a gambler to know first the rules and regulations of a gambling site and also the KYC policy of the website to avoid inconvenience and lockdown of funds. I don't know why many gamblers are hesitant to comply with KYC, but they know it serves as compliance for the website so they can operate legally and also to avoid illicit and anomalous activities using gambling sites.

If we already trust the casino and the casino is a trusted casino, we can do KYC because we already trust it. That is why we have to look for casinos seriously and find those trusted casinos.
By choosing a trusted casino, we can at least entrust our documents to the casino because the casino will take good care of them.
We also have to confirm whether the casino will ask us to do KYC when we withdraw or when we first register because there are still casinos that ask us to do KYC when we want to withdraw. And if that is the case, we must ensure it is a trusted casino.
And if we don't find the casino trustworthy, we don't need to register at that casino because many other casinos are better than that casino.

I will mate if I am to answer , KYC for me is nothing if dealing with the sites trusted by me for long time , because once i decide to gamble in a site for sure i gave them my trust so providing KYC will not be be an issue at all cost but this is just me I don't know with others.

Be careful with your personal info on these platforms. Despite its tediousness, read the terms and conditions. The thresholds, verification methods, and data usage regulations are hidden. Your data, your duty!

I only play on trusted platforms. Why? Because they enforce privacy rules and are less likely to mishandle your data. Secure your digital footprint, not just win or enjoy the game. In the digital era, personal data is as valuable as cash!

Be careful when gambling online. Being smart and safe are both important. Define financial and temporal restrictions. Healthy gambling requires self-care and responsibility, not just regulations.

We here discuss how bad or good asking for KYC is, how fair or not to do it when we withdraw, will it help to fight money laundry or not, but if you would be asked to pass it, will you do it? Will the amount on balance influence on your decision? What is the amount that will make you step over principles and start uploading your document to casino?

When it comes to KYC matters then it would really be that pertains into those documents and other personal information that would really be asked out.This is why it would really be always important that you should really be that mindful when it comes to terms and conditions on which you should be checking whether they are asking or not or having those threshold or whatever possibilities that they would be asking out for some verification.If you do saw that it is really just that fine then it would be your own jurisdiction whether you would be playing or not on the said platform.
It would always vary into your own preference but of course we should really be that smart that we would be playing into those places which are known and reputable in the first place
so that we would be able to avoid such problems.