Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 36. (Read 12549 times)

Some casinos like Stake do this, and while I personally have no qualms about this type of KYC mechanic I can see why people are disappointed with this kind of setup. You go there, log in and play a couple games thinking that the casino will let you off the hook since it didn't ask for your identifiable details when you register, and the moment you withdraw your money you're slapped with a popup asking you to KYC first, which is already an aggravating process for some who aren't too eager to let their stuff out on the internet.

Perhaps a more upfront approach is more desirable. Let people know that you're doing KYC from the get-go by making them do it after you register, that way the people aren't burdened with having to send an ID when all they expected to do is just send an address and wait for their money to arrive.

Gamblers shouldn't make this common mistake for gambling platforms not asking for KYC informations in the beginning to be that they are not a KYC gambling platform, some may only require for this when you get to a particular stage that you will have to needed them to provide you access to some particular functions their system already have detected that you needs to validate before they can grant access, we need to understand the way some of these casinos operate even before using them.

Not only Stake but all major casinos are like that. They won't ask for KYC as long as someone doesn't withdraws a lot of money or someone isn't a high-roller. Small gamblers can enjoy almost any platform without worrying about the KYC thing but once their accounts grow to some good levels then could be asked by the casinos about the KYC verification.

Top casinos will never ruin their reputation by doing anything shady with the KYC details of the players but one should keep in mind that all of the online sites can be hacked by the hackers if they can find vulnerabilities in the code.

Mostly hackers target sites to get access to their databases so that they can gather as much information about the players as possible. That's the main reason why most people fear from submitting their KYC details.

I know that there is a group of people who don't want KYC due to the privacy reasons but most people fear that if their data get leaked then governments and their relatives might find about their gambling habit. And that may cause problems in their lives.

I do not entirely agree that stake is a zero KYC platform. Maybe you being a small gambler has not yet exposed you to the conditions that makes for KYC verifications. As it used to be with exchangers, there are always daily limits allowed without KYC, once exceeded, it becomes mandatory

We are talking about casinos that doesn't ask KYC, while Stake does required it's users once it hit its certain limits, detect anomalies on the account, huge withdrawals, etc. so technically they required KYC, no ifs and buts.

There are big casinos without asking for KYC like Stake as long as you play with an IP from a country that is not banned, I am so far without KYC to withdraw even make deposits and play, I am not a big gambler just a small gambler so so far still have no problems about KYC in their site, even if they ask for it I won't mind as long as their site has a good reputation on this forum or out there. To be honest, I'm not too happy with KYC-free sites, in fact it makes me not really feel safe playing.

Everyone has their own views but I believe there are sites that don't ask for KYC and when making a withdrawal as long as you read the terms and conditions on the site they don't break the rules or play with an IP from a prohibited country, it looks like everything will be fine or it could be to prevent money laundering usually sometimes casinos always ask for KYC when the withdrawal process is not at the beginning, it could be that the gambler makes a large deposit and the casino wants to verify that there is no money laundering there, I think that's legal

I still know many casinos that are never of any reputation that are KYC free which is a mean to attract gamblers to keep using their casino.
For those that are accustomed to using casino that would never ask them of their private information, we need to be very smart and don't jump on random casino that could make us regret why even decide to change casino. There are so many things involved in this online gambling and it is very important for us to look for ways that would not make us to get scammed.

Reading the ToS or Term of service some gambling platform before registering account is very good habit but many of casino platform hidden about KYC require on first time registering, I think many gambler no doubt for depositing huge amount after reading ToS and there are not required with KYC and playing smoothly.
Many time get losses account can access well problem come when huge amount of winning why suddenly banned and account restrict required with KYC.
Many respond I read on several casino ANN thread with user not comfortable their account suddenly suspend after huge amount of winning, they have understood all ToS before registering account but why cases of accounts suspended on winning position.

That`s why i see a decision to KYC before big win. Until you KYCed the casino can KYC you for several months without paying. The same time gambler can`t bet these time. But if you KYCed - you can demand your prize or you can attract attention to this situation. The casino can lose much more from such feedback than paying the prize.

Sometimes it is possible to start verification yourself. The other way is to make different withdrawals several times. Casino often KYC after first or strange withdraw, so you can make them KYC you in such a way. Of course it isn`t 100% guarantee for KYC.

It is very true, I think that currently there are no casinos that do not ask for KYC, decentralized casinos but that is another thing, there are other laws and other ways of seeing things and, for that reason when we are involved in a casino, we have to observe what It is better what we can do to seek security, the problem will no longer be the KYC, because it is a mandatory requirement, unfortunately the caisnos had to lower their heads and things have to be done now, yes, then What I recommend is that since it is something that must be accepted, then look for a casino that offers security, that offers the total trust available so that many ways to have peace of mind, comfort can be generated, because in the end that is what is Look, have a site that can be honorable when you have to pay the profits, and not have to be verified before making withdrawals. That is why casinos should now be a little more transparent, to avoid problems before making a deposit so that your identity is quickly verified, something like the brokers do, to avoid at times, accusation of scams and similar things that They give players and casinos a hard time.

The casinos have to accept how this is a mandatory requirement, at least say that it is, this way many misunderstandings are avoided, there is no anger on the part of the players and you do not have to wait days for the approval of a KYC especially because Yes, it is in very bad taste, to avoid these things you have to go ahead and be honest from the beginning, that without KYC you cannot operate, and so when you go to make any type of withdrawal, it is assigned and It happens without problems, as it should be, it is something that we already have to see like this, and that is why it is always recommended to be in reliable casinos, such as stake.com, bitcasino.io, roobet, rollbit, as well as many others.

Yeah, reading the ToS is a good habit before registering anywhere but the sad reality is that most people skip that part because it's too damn long and secondly, even if you read the terms and do nothing wrong, these casinos can still withhold your funds without any reason. I have seen several cases where the casino stops responding and the license provider is the puppet of the casino so that doesn't help either.

That is probably the only way to avoid getting in trouble. Play at a reputed casino and check their thread here on bitcointalk for any red flags because if the casino is involved in any wrongdoing, there will be scam accusation threads likely against them in the scam accusation section.

That happens very often when casinos ask for KYC not because they are afraid of money laundering but they do it to avoid paying big sum of money. That's a huge problem that exists and I am afraid that will be abused till the law allows.

How can you KYC yourself? Do you mean to submit KYC documents before you get asked?

I have noticed that there is a glitch or bug or call it whatever you wish, in Costa Rica, that allows casinos to operate without asking for KYC documents because I have noticed that many of them promote themselves as no-kyc casinos.

I don't think such casino exists, unless you are trying those who are unreputed or unsafe casino sites. Similar casino sites such as bustadice are rare in terms of reputation. Casinos who doesn't ask KYC but offers varieties of games including sports betting are suspicious and will probably ask soon.

There are some situations, when the casino don`t want to pay. And if they ask KYC that moment - you can lose several months trying to KYC and i don`t sure that it will be successful. I remember here one thread, when the gambler was asked about electricity bill only on paper and he paid online for several years. And they refused him to KYC in their office for some reasons, a don`t remember why.
The best way is to KYC yourself if it possible or try to make casino KYC you, making several withdrawals for example. The second way is to search for no-KYC casino, as you said.

When casinos ask you for KYC verification, it means that they ask you for information that will prove your identity, i.e. your ID card, Passport, Bills, Bank statement and so on. Absolutely every casino that asks you for KYC, at least wants ID or Passport selfies. I say again, it's the least information they want, so, it's false to say that gamblers should choose top casinos to get rid of complex/complicated verification.
If one wants to get rid of KYC, it's better to do research and choose casino that rarely asks for KYC verification or is absolutely no-KYC casino.

Some casino have several level of KYC kinds not enough until document ID but also have to upload until passport, post proof until book bank and I think its more completed problem with casino gambling. Some casino required with tax number regarding in that country casino or gambling platform have been legal and government have regulation about tax transaction and casino or gambling platform required it for their user.
I think for casino better looking easily required upload document and submit ID only its enough not have to put tax number, its make annoying for gambler because they won't publish the most privacy data or document with gambling platform.

I think that if every time a user registered the casino would have to do KYC (as they are required to do by law), they would face themselves with lots of work because of small accounts. In such smaller, yet more numerous cases, the casino team would be overworked and doing nothing but checking KYCs all day. And realistically, checking an account that came to gamble tiny amounts of money, it is not worth it. While the regulators are looking over their shoulders, I am guessing they have no choice but to implement a KYC on certain accounts with certain amounts of money. I think if the casino could throw the whole KYC thing out of the window, they would.

Although it does seem a bit deceitful and if they asked for KYC upfront, it would make people feel safer.

Terms and conditions and KYC are all good, they keep both parties in good understanding and guarantee and also increase the level of trust and help know the customer, nevertheless, casinos could still use it as a weapon, and they are at their discretion to do and undo in the case of KYC asking. I have even seen the casinos that claim they are no-KYC but later ask for the completion of KYC from certain customers, and if you asked them why, they would say in some rare circumstances if they suspect a customer. You should know that something is fishy.

This is mostly because the customer is winning or good at what he does, they will now see him as a threat to them and will continue to make excuses to either kick him out or not to pay his money. I said all that because it is all about the terms and conditions when you ask most of them, and these terms and conditions are often too big for many to read, even some who try to read them might not fully understand most of them. Despite that, we should just try, it is good to read them and get acquainted with where we commit our money, nonetheless, it will not exonerate anyone completely from the rod of the casino as they might be using it as an excuse for one thing or the other. All that is good is to work with a casino that is somewhat good and trusted by many, maybe you will not have any issues with them.

No any bugs. Everything is fine except such situations. It repeated several times, and this one was the last for me in this casino. I won several times with odds from 7 to 12 and it was ok, but few times the support rejected the result and returned my bet with same words: operator mistake, technical mistakes with calculating odds, sold match. Sometimes it was true, i checked other bookies, but few times the other bookies paid.

What problems have you experienced, such as bugs?
If the casino you use is well-known and reputable casino, something like this should not happen because it can make their customers feel disappointed which makes it possible for them not to use that casino again.
It just that if the casino claims an operator error or some kind of bug and they can prove it clearly and concretely, shouldn't that be accepted because real error occurred, not just an excuse to make you lose your winnings.
I know how you feel about this incident, hopefully in the future it won't happen again in other well-known casinos.

But I have encountered several casinos that suddenly ask for KYC as whole and they gave message via email that there will be change in the tos which will enforce KYC for all customers.

It just that when KYC is requested after big win and there are no high fives related to KYC then it is clear that the action is making it difficult for customers to withdraw winnings.
This is quite unacceptable because they don't have tos that states they require KYC and asking for it when the customer wins.
There have been many cases where gamblers have experienced similar things and this is problem that still occurs to this day.