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Maybe that's the annoying thing for gamblers where at the beginning the casino doesn't ask for KYC but then they ask for it when players win big wins or make big deposits and bets at the casino, that's why I always remind beginners or anyone to be on the safe side, it's best to complete KYC. At the start of registration, if you really want to play with money and big bets, unless it's just money and small bets, it won't be a problem.

I think that's what causes people to not like this KYC because it is too abrupt in asking users to complete KYC at the end of the game instead of at the beginning of the game, of course that is definitely not liked by many gamblers because maybe they don't want their identity to be known just because of a small bet.  Grin
Almost of gambler dislike with KYC and many of them not read with term of service required KYC or not, right now have casino platform must filled personal document information help us later if required KYC will use the same data with document ID. To make clearly about casino allowed KYC or not ask the help center and there are fast respond with their costumer service and ask required KYC or not before huge amount deposit or withdrawing.
If some gambler not agree with KYC required still available looking for other casino platform without required KYC before making deposit on casino side need KYC. Don't make on playing victim position when some casino restrict an account without get KYC if want withdrawing huge amount because all casino have provide with read term of service firstly.
legendary
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What you post is illogical and comes completely opposite of what we, gamblers, want. We want to KYC, as this is 1) does not give any benefit for me, or proves anything (gamblers can use other persons identity) 2) casinos cant guarantee safety of our personal data. But you suggest to start gambling career from completing KYC. What is that for? Like this gonna save gambler from future troubles or give him some advantage? Absolutely not. And in crypto casinos, KYC is a total big no.
Check the parts of your comment I bolded and tell us what exactly you are saying. For in the first part, you said "as gamblers, we want kyc", and then in the second part, you said "kyc is a big no in crypto casino", which of this statements of yours is correct and which is not?

And another aspect I will like you to take correction is in the area of generalizing your statement or comment, always avoid using the word "we" in your comment when online and discussing with strangers. You are a gambler and I am a gambler, but that does not mean we both have same interest, what you don't like doing may be some thing I find pleasure in doing.
That you think that kyc should be a big no no on cryptocurrency gambling casinos, does not mean I also feel or think same.

So, personalize things like this, and don't generalize it, it's your personal opinion, not the opinion of the general public.
legendary
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I am more pissed when casinos ask obligatory to turn on 2FA when you withdraw, then all of a sudden favor to pass KYC. I have felt the victim of that several times. You click withdraw, fill all the info, click next and «turn on 2fa» message appears. You turn on 2fa (any my list of 2fa is huge now, requires scrolling all the time), repeat same procedure, click next and your funds are locked for 24h, because you have recently turned on 2fa... To me this looks more unfair then KYC.
I think its good protect from casino gambling with your fund due abnormal activities from your account, usually when turning your security account like 2FA or change gambling password account required 24 hours later for withdrawing access. Its have been rule from casino gambling to protect abnormal activities and possibility your account got hack.
I think is fair and good way for securing our fund after turning 2fa or change password account waiting for 24 hours later if want get withdrawal fund.
Don't change 2FA, password gambling account if you want get access to withdrawing fund without lock by gambling platform system more than 24 hours.

It is fair and good way to protect account only when you have already turned it of, but not when you get this warning after wanting to withdraw. So before, when I havent dont a deposit or gambled, casino did not care much about security of funds or balance. They let me lose funds. But when I try to withdraw, all of a sudden they start to care much and freeze funds for 24h. I would understand if they tell me to get back in 24h and repeat withdrawal. But they freeze funds, and I cant gamble anymore. I just had to sit and wait. Looks unfair for me.
When one wants to use a casino site he should use a reputable casino site from the beginning and complete the kyc verify before he gets any kind of warning and definitely gamble the easy way without any fear.  Because gambling is a cool game, the more relaxed you are, the less likely you are to lose.  And if someone is lucky enough to win big in gambling then he will be forced to do kyc so should use a site which has no kyc issues.

What you post is illogical and comes completely opposite of what we, gamblers, want. We want to KYC, as this is 1) does not give any benefit for me, or proves anything (gamblers can use other persons identity) 2) casinos cant guarantee safety of our personal data. But you suggest to start gambling career from completing KYC. What is that for? Like this gonna save gambler from future troubles or give him some advantage? Absolutely not. And in crypto casinos, KYC is a total big no.
Unfortunately, the time has now come when the American authorities are universally introducing identity verification checks using the KYC procedure.  And many sites, including gambling sites, now require these KYC procedures from players even directly during registration.  But it’s true that no one really guarantees players that their personal data will be kept confidential and will never be publicly available on the Internet.  But there are two options for leaking personal data - hacking of the database by hackers and theft by employees who have access to this information for some kind of reward.  As a result, these two factors make the likelihood of declassification of personal data quite high.  But for some reason, USA regulators do not pay attention to this circumstance at all when they require everyone to implement KYC.  And this is a clear omission of the authorities, which generally should be corrected.  Only when and whether they will do this is unknown. 
And this is a huge harm for everyone who uses cryptocurrency, from the widespread refusal of anonymity and this damned KYC invented by the American banking lobby.
legendary
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I am more pissed when casinos ask obligatory to turn on 2FA when you withdraw, then all of a sudden favor to pass KYC. I have felt the victim of that several times. You click withdraw, fill all the info, click next and «turn on 2fa» message appears. You turn on 2fa (any my list of 2fa is huge now, requires scrolling all the time), repeat same procedure, click next and your funds are locked for 24h, because you have recently turned on 2fa... To me this looks more unfair then KYC.
I think its good protect from casino gambling with your fund due abnormal activities from your account, usually when turning your security account like 2FA or change gambling password account required 24 hours later for withdrawing access. Its have been rule from casino gambling to protect abnormal activities and possibility your account got hack.
I think is fair and good way for securing our fund after turning 2fa or change password account waiting for 24 hours later if want get withdrawal fund.
Don't change 2FA, password gambling account if you want get access to withdrawing fund without lock by gambling platform system more than 24 hours.

It is fair and good way to protect account only when you have already turned it of, but not when you get this warning after wanting to withdraw. So before, when I havent dont a deposit or gambled, casino did not care much about security of funds or balance. They let me lose funds. But when I try to withdraw, all of a sudden they start to care much and freeze funds for 24h. I would understand if they tell me to get back in 24h and repeat withdrawal. But they freeze funds, and I cant gamble anymore. I just had to sit and wait. Looks unfair for me.
When one wants to use a casino site he should use a reputable casino site from the beginning and complete the kyc verify before he gets any kind of warning and definitely gamble the easy way without any fear.  Because gambling is a cool game, the more relaxed you are, the less likely you are to lose.  And if someone is lucky enough to win big in gambling then he will be forced to do kyc so should use a site which has no kyc issues.

What you post is illogical and comes completely opposite of what we, gamblers, want. We dont want to KYC, as this is 1) does not give any benefit for me, or proves anything (gamblers can use other persons identity) 2) casinos cant guarantee safety of our personal data. But you suggest to start gambling career from completing KYC. What is that for? Like this gonna save gambler from future troubles or give him some advantage? Absolutely not. And in crypto casinos, KYC is a total big no.
hero member
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I think that's what causes people to not like this KYC because it is too abrupt in asking users to complete KYC at the end of the game instead of at the beginning of the game, of course that is definitely not liked by many gamblers because maybe they don't want their identity to be known just because of a small bet.  Grin

But this is not the fault of the gambling platforms, they are being considerate first by not asking for KYC for a start which is their own way of attacking gamblers and requesting for KYC the moment they started and wanted to make some certain functions which is their own second way of retaining the gamblers to their platforms, now it's upto us to be able to present to them the evide of what they demanded or not.
legendary
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Why people are confused that there are no KYC when they register at casino? Why would casino ask for KYC from the start, if you havent done anything yet? This seems illogical to me. People are confused when they asked to pass KYC during withdrawal, but not before every withdrawal they ask for that. If you are in a little profit, imo casinos wont bother asking. But if you turn dollar into a million, then ask for KYC to get some extra time for checking. This looks normal for me.
Maybe that's the annoying thing for gamblers where at the beginning the casino doesn't ask for KYC but then they ask for it when players win big wins or make big deposits and bets at the casino, that's why I always remind beginners or anyone to be on the safe side, it's best to complete KYC. At the start of registration, if you really want to play with money and big bets, unless it's just money and small bets, it won't be a problem.

I think that's what causes people to not like this KYC because it is too abrupt in asking users to complete KYC at the end of the game instead of at the beginning of the game, of course that is definitely not liked by many gamblers because maybe they don't want their identity to be known just because of a small bet.  Grin
sr. member
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I am more pissed when casinos ask obligatory to turn on 2FA when you withdraw, then all of a sudden favor to pass KYC. I have felt the victim of that several times. You click withdraw, fill all the info, click next and «turn on 2fa» message appears. You turn on 2fa (any my list of 2fa is huge now, requires scrolling all the time), repeat same procedure, click next and your funds are locked for 24h, because you have recently turned on 2fa... To me this looks more unfair then KYC.
I think its good protect from casino gambling with your fund due abnormal activities from your account, usually when turning your security account like 2FA or change gambling password account required 24 hours later for withdrawing access. Its have been rule from casino gambling to protect abnormal activities and possibility your account got hack.
I think is fair and good way for securing our fund after turning 2fa or change password account waiting for 24 hours later if want get withdrawal fund.
Don't change 2FA, password gambling account if you want get access to withdrawing fund without lock by gambling platform system more than 24 hours.

It is fair and good way to protect account only when you have already turned it of, but not when you get this warning after wanting to withdraw. So before, when I havent dont a deposit or gambled, casino did not care much about security of funds or balance. They let me lose funds. But when I try to withdraw, all of a sudden they start to care much and freeze funds for 24h. I would understand if they tell me to get back in 24h and repeat withdrawal. But they freeze funds, and I cant gamble anymore. I just had to sit and wait. Looks unfair for me.
When one wants to use a casino site he should use a reputable casino site from the beginning and complete the kyc verify before he gets any kind of warning and definitely gamble the easy way without any fear.  Because gambling is a cool game, the more relaxed you are, the less likely you are to lose.  And if someone is lucky enough to win big in gambling then he will be forced to do kyc so should use a site which has no kyc issues.
legendary
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I am more pissed when casinos ask obligatory to turn on 2FA when you withdraw, then all of a sudden favor to pass KYC. I have felt the victim of that several times. You click withdraw, fill all the info, click next and «turn on 2fa» message appears. You turn on 2fa (any my list of 2fa is huge now, requires scrolling all the time), repeat same procedure, click next and your funds are locked for 24h, because you have recently turned on 2fa... To me this looks more unfair then KYC.
I think its good protect from casino gambling with your fund due abnormal activities from your account, usually when turning your security account like 2FA or change gambling password account required 24 hours later for withdrawing access. Its have been rule from casino gambling to protect abnormal activities and possibility your account got hack.
I think is fair and good way for securing our fund after turning 2fa or change password account waiting for 24 hours later if want get withdrawal fund.
Don't change 2FA, password gambling account if you want get access to withdrawing fund without lock by gambling platform system more than 24 hours.

It is fair and good way to protect account only when you have already turned it of, but not when you get this warning after wanting to withdraw. So before, when I havent dont a deposit or gambled, casino did not care much about security of funds or balance. They let me lose funds. But when I try to withdraw, all of a sudden they start to care much and freeze funds for 24h. I would understand if they tell me to get back in 24h and repeat withdrawal. But they freeze funds, and I cant gamble anymore. I just had to sit and wait. Looks unfair for me.
hero member
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Bitcoin costs nothing. No one country allow somebody to print money. So today it costs $40.000, tomorrow - $100.000, a week later - zero. And anonymity is a fake - we regularly see how bitcoin owners are caught by police. We just too small fish for them. That`s why i don`t see any problem with KYC - if someone serious decide to catch some gambler - he can do it even without KYC.

Yes, indeed, but the less they remove the tools the better, I believe that those who use Bitcoin are because they have become known in P2P Exchanges where they give their bank details at once, and that is where they have it, it is very easy That way, but from wallet to wallet, with mixers things change, with respect to KYC, there are many new things, in fact, the demands are increasing even for casinos because casinos now have to invest a lot of money in security so that the things they have stored there in the data do not leak, so now that is a fortune, so things can be smiling for us as players, because as I said, when now they put their hands in your pockets Casino things change, I am sure that things can be done to avoid this KYC if the prices in this case increase and continue to increase, and those cases can be studied to know what can be done, because there is a lot they have to invest.

With respect to what you say, that bitcoin reaches zero, so I know, for example, that for me is not possible, for now it is not, within the limits of the intact possibilities, well, it is, but for that to happen I want to say that many Investors are willing to lose all their investment in bitcoin investment and many institutions do it too, even the bankers and governments that are against Bitcoin, they have bitcoin, even the economists themselves know the great value it has, that's what they say. You can say about any shitcoin, which doesn't matter to me, but Bitcoin? Come on man, we are talking about the King, the one who is actually worth money, who at any moment can reach $100k or even why not? $500k or more, those are the goals that Bitcoin has, even the enemies of Bitcoin themselves are recognizing the supremacy of the crypto asset, so what you say is a bit exaggerated.
I`m sure that nobody can avoid the police(or secret services) if the would be strongly motivated to catch him. Any mixers or avoiding KYC can`t help with it. I read sometimes different cryptocurrencies news and can say that the police today is qualified enough and has enough instruments to catch a bitcoiner. The main question is how big is the fish.

The gold can be used in industry, the oil can be used in industry, USD is the standard. Bitcoin is nothing. No one country will allow any type of money they can`t control.
But it doesn`t mean that we can`t get profit using BTC in our real life. I buy, sell, earn BTC. But the money i have in BTC today - costs nothing for me, due to bey/sell operations. I don`t care will it be $500.000 or zero.
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I am more pissed when casinos ask obligatory to turn on 2FA when you withdraw, then all of a sudden favor to pass KYC. I have felt the victim of that several times. You click withdraw, fill all the info, click next and «turn on 2fa» message appears. You turn on 2fa (any my list of 2fa is huge now, requires scrolling all the time), repeat same procedure, click next and your funds are locked for 24h, because you have recently turned on 2fa... To me this looks more unfair then KYC.
I think its good protect from casino gambling with your fund due abnormal activities from your account, usually when turning your security account like 2FA or change gambling password account required 24 hours later for withdrawing access. Its have been rule from casino gambling to protect abnormal activities and possibility your account got hack.
I think is fair and good way for securing our fund after turning 2fa or change password account waiting for 24 hours later if want get withdrawal fund.
Don't change 2FA, password gambling account if you want get access to withdrawing fund without lock by gambling platform system more than 24 hours.


Yes I always keep that in mind because I have seen many reputable exchange, where when we on the 2fa the exchange doesn't allow us to withdraw for a while. But there will be a option to turn this feature off, because sometimes we need crypto or money urgently,
It is a good feature, but I keep this off when it is possible.
legendary
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I don`t think that we can change it. After the gambler get KYC, he think that he don`t have problems with the casino and continue gambling. Until he get some restriction like bet limit. And they`ll use this trick as long as it possible, telling us that they are struggle with the cheaters
It may be so, but I say that in the future people will look for money no matter how a casino is without KYC , I don't know if decentralized casinos can make a difference and improve in the future, maybe they don't charge every move because they Know that companies will Seek to be more Anonymous and that can have many consequences, especially for casinos that are more centralized and have many clients, because there will be such Persecution that things will be stronger every day there will be people who will always seek to have this type of privileges so that they feel safer when playing, so when we are in a casino we have to be very emphatic in what we are looking for, and if the problem will be this KYC, and although many companies are Doing it for now without problems, it is something which is Still very quiet but People who care about their money will start to give more signals, we are all currently seeing that things with Casinos have changed , that they are now an Obligation to do this KYC thing , but also the Exchanges and almost Everything.

For those reasons we can draw that Conclusion , well I can Draw that conclusion , at one point let's say it's the period of about 3 years where the majority of people realize that the power of bitcoin is destroyed, as they are. At dinner right now , the Price is above $40k , but if the price were to have a rebound of at least $100k, people will Know that this is a safe Asset, where it can be considered without a doubt a valuable asset, even more powerful than the same gold and opting above some solid investments such as Real Estate , the SameGold, oil, among others and that can be unmonitored, with that option, the eras will seek to play and have fun without Restrictions , Because everyone is tired of the fiat System , and with this they can get out of that system Easily, without Going through banks , third parties or as a Government.
Bitcoin costs nothing. No one country allow somebody to print money. So today it costs $40.000, tomorrow - $100.000, a week later - zero. And anonymity is a fake - we regularly see how bitcoin owners are caught by police. We just too small fish for them. That`s why i don`t see any problem with KYC - if someone serious decide to catch some gambler - he can do it even without KYC.

Yes, indeed, but the less they remove the tools the better, I believe that those who use Bitcoin are because they have become known in P2P Exchanges where they give their bank details at once, and that is where they have it, it is very easy That way, but from wallet to wallet, with mixers things change, with respect to KYC, there are many new things, in fact, the demands are increasing even for casinos because casinos now have to invest a lot of money in security so that the things they have stored there in the data do not leak, so now that is a fortune, so things can be smiling for us as players, because as I said, when now they put their hands in your pockets Casino things change, I am sure that things can be done to avoid this KYC if the prices in this case increase and continue to increase, and those cases can be studied to know what can be done, because there is a lot they have to invest.

With respect to what you say, that bitcoin reaches zero, so I know, for example, that for me is not possible, for now it is not, within the limits of the intact possibilities, well, it is, but for that to happen I want to say that many Investors are willing to lose all their investment in bitcoin investment and many institutions do it too, even the bankers and governments that are against Bitcoin, they have bitcoin, even the economists themselves know the great value it has, that's what they say. You can say about any shitcoin, which doesn't matter to me, but Bitcoin? Come on man, we are talking about the King, the one who is actually worth money, who at any moment can reach $100k or even why not? $500k or more, those are the goals that Bitcoin has, even the enemies of Bitcoin themselves are recognizing the supremacy of the crypto asset, so what you say is a bit exaggerated.
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I am more pissed when casinos ask obligatory to turn on 2FA when you withdraw, then all of a sudden favor to pass KYC. I have felt the victim of that several times. You click withdraw, fill all the info, click next and «turn on 2fa» message appears. You turn on 2fa (any my list of 2fa is huge now, requires scrolling all the time), repeat same procedure, click next and your funds are locked for 24h, because you have recently turned on 2fa... To me this looks more unfair then KYC.
I think its good protect from casino gambling with your fund due abnormal activities from your account, usually when turning your security account like 2FA or change gambling password account required 24 hours later for withdrawing access. Its have been rule from casino gambling to protect abnormal activities and possibility your account got hack.
I think is fair and good way for securing our fund after turning 2fa or change password account waiting for 24 hours later if want get withdrawal fund.
Don't change 2FA, password gambling account if you want get access to withdrawing fund without lock by gambling platform system more than 24 hours.
legendary
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Why people are confused that there are no KYC when they register at casino? Why would casino ask for KYC from the start, if you havent done anything yet? This seems illogical to me. People are confused when they asked to pass KYC during withdrawal, but not before every withdrawal they ask for that. If you are in a little profit, imo casinos wont bother asking. But if you turn dollar into a million, then ask for KYC to get some extra time for checking. This looks normal for me.
And what also should look normal to you as well is the fact that, there are actually some casinos where you won't be allowed to make any deposit and play without first passing kyc verification after you have completed your registration.
And if I am not mistaken, I think stake now fall under that same category since they updated their terms and conditions to now request immediate kyc verification from new users, while old users are allowed to play normally and only request kyc verification when they feel like, or wait until the casino ask for it.

And again, In some casino, it is not actually until a gambler wins millions before they request the user to pass kyc verification, some casinos do ask for kyc verification even for the tiniest of profit, most especially, if they are not sure if the gambler won in a legitimate way.

I am more pissed when casinos ask obligatory to turn on 2FA when you withdraw, then all of a sudden favor to pass KYC. I have felt the victim of that several times. You click withdraw, fill all the info, click next and «turn on 2fa» message appears. You turn on 2fa (any my list of 2fa is huge now, requires scrolling all the time), repeat same procedure, click next and your funds are locked for 24h, because you have recently turned on 2fa... To me this looks more unfair then KYC.
hero member
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So, as i said, you is too small fish to catch you. The difference between bitcoin criminals and common criminals is that police has not much experience catching bitcoiners. They can catch such users, but they have to make a serious effort for it. If your transactions about $100-$100.000 - it is just waste of time for police. Exchanges and casinos will share your data as the police asks. It is a huge mistake to believe in anonymity in the internet.
Yes, unless it's a minimum million dollar case, the police won't waste time investigating them.  So kyc for gambling, holding or trading with low amount should not be a fear for you.  But one fear is that many casino sites sell users' documents on the black market to perform illegal activities, so you have to be careful about this.  And for this reason, a reputable casino site should be used so that you can be safe from all aspects.  Illegal operators buy documents from users for high fees that many sites cannot afford and sell the documents to them.  So it is better to use reputable sites
Even reputable sites can`t give you any guarantee. Of course, it would be better to use such sites, they spend money in their security system, at least they are more safe than small casinos, but no one can defend it from hackers. If the huge offline companies were hacked, there are no doubts, that casino can be hacked too. That`s why it is important to use 2FA or sms for security - services that connected with some devices you always take with yourself.
legendary
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Why people are confused that there are no KYC when they register at casino? Why would casino ask for KYC from the start, if you havent done anything yet? This seems illogical to me. People are confused when they asked to pass KYC during withdrawal, but not before every withdrawal they ask for that. If you are in a little profit, imo casinos wont bother asking. But if you turn dollar into a million, then ask for KYC to get some extra time for checking. This looks normal for me.
And what also should look normal to you as well is the fact that, there are actually some casinos where you won't be allowed to make any deposit and play without first passing kyc verification after you have completed your registration.
And if I am not mistaken, I think stake now fall under that same category since they updated their terms and conditions to now request immediate kyc verification from new users, while old users are allowed to play normally and only request kyc verification when they feel like, or wait until the casino ask for it.

And again, In some casino, it is not actually until a gambler wins millions before they request the user to pass kyc verification, some casinos do ask for kyc verification even for the tiniest of profit, most especially, if they are not sure if the gambler won in a legitimate way.
legendary
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Why people are confused that there are no KYC when they register at casino? Why would casino ask for KYC from the start, if you havent done anything yet? This seems illogical to me. People are confused when they asked to pass KYC during withdrawal, but not before every withdrawal they ask for that. If you are in a little profit, imo casinos wont bother asking. But if you turn dollar into a million, then ask for KYC to get some extra time for checking. This looks normal for me.
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I'm pretty sure I've made this point already in this thread, but if you're gambling, you're likely hoping that you hit some crazy winning streak or maybe a monster win on a slot machine to make yourself millions right?  Well, if that's your plan then you have to assume that no casino is going to let you withdraw millions of dollars without doing some sort of KYC.  So if you're gambling without KYC for whatever reason and you aren't going to be able to provide that for whatever reason, you are limiting yourself to only losing.  That isn't a winning strategy in my book.

That's why its crazy to assume that a casino will not implement a KYC especially if this scenario comes to a player since for sure they would provably ask that so they can verify something to the winners side.

Also players should not expect anything like there's a casino will do a NO KYC thing in there casino since for sure all those casino claim thay they would not ask anything like that will implement this. Also for sure that they might get an issue on some jurisdiction that's why if they want to became legal with those country for sure they comply and if they will not do it then maybe there's something shady will happen on them.

It's easy to know if a casino would ask a KYC or not. Check if they have a license, if they do, then expect that they will require a KYC anytime soon because it's a mandate from their regulators to make their customers comply with the basic requirement, probably they would delay to some customers but they are still subject for KYC in the long run.

The only casino that would not require a KYC are those that are not regulated, but you know the inherent risk to that because when they aren't regulated, there's no assurance also if they'll stay in the business for long.

Tell me a non KYC casinos (non regulated) that are still operating now, and how long have they been operating?
hero member
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I'm pretty sure I've made this point already in this thread, but if you're gambling, you're likely hoping that you hit some crazy winning streak or maybe a monster win on a slot machine to make yourself millions right?  Well, if that's your plan then you have to assume that no casino is going to let you withdraw millions of dollars without doing some sort of KYC.  So if you're gambling without KYC for whatever reason and you aren't going to be able to provide that for whatever reason, you are limiting yourself to only losing.  That isn't a winning strategy in my book.

That's why its crazy to assume that a casino will not implement a KYC especially if this scenario comes to a player since for sure they would provably ask that so they can verify something to the winners side.

Also players should not expect anything like there's a casino will do a NO KYC thing in there casino since for sure all those casino claim thay they would not ask anything like that will implement this. Also for sure that they might get an issue on some jurisdiction that's why if they want to became legal with those country for sure they comply and if they will not do it then maybe there's something shady will happen on them.
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It was a big, well-known casino. I left feedback and got the answer i told: "operator mistake". You can do nothing with it - it is written in ToS. Or they can say about some cheating in the match. And they don`t need to prove something.
I don't know what actually happened with your bet but when you get win with high odd and then the team just returns the amount of the bet and claims that everything was the operator fault then this doesn't make sense.
Casinos have fairly good system for detecting any problems or errors that occur and of course they should handle these errors from the start instead of making customers disappointed with what they do.
But the requirements contained in Tos regarding KYC are not always used for the casino personal benefit but it all depends on where we gamble, and not all casinos do that kind of thing.

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I left it. I think that someone else will make the same. But the result is that i have to spend time for research and try new casino and this casino decreased their loses - i mostly won.
If it only happens once and of course they say it was an operator error, maybe we can still accept it because it only happened once, but even if it only happened once, it also depends on how much money is at stake and the odds you get.
When large bet with odd big cancelled, plus the result is that we should win big then disappointment is bound to occur.
And in context like this there will be many people who will go looking for another casino if they experience the same thing, it is difficult to find casino that can really give us what we want but at least there are several large, well-reputed casinos that we can use.
I can agree with "operator mistake" but the statistics was awful for my team. I bet only for this big odd. And i checked later - several casinos had odds about it. And the second bet - x2 wasn`t cancelled. As result i`m sure that it is cheating from the casino and don`t want to repeat such situation. But if we read the ToS - we can`t say it - there are several points, allows them not to pay.
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I'm pretty sure I've made this point already in this thread, but if you're gambling, you're likely hoping that you hit some crazy winning streak or maybe a monster win on a slot machine to make yourself millions right?  Well, if that's your plan then you have to assume that no casino is going to let you withdraw millions of dollars without doing some sort of KYC.  So if you're gambling without KYC for whatever reason and you aren't going to be able to provide that for whatever reason, you are limiting yourself to only losing.  That isn't a winning strategy in my book.
If you are dealing with a shady casino then this would really be mostly the case on which you would really be that able to experience those sudden lock ups and asking for some verification or would really be neither telling you that there are some sort of bug on the time that you do hit up something big which its not something new and do really happens into this forum and this is why it would be always that best that you should choose into those sites on which are reputable and indeed could be trusted on which it would really be giving out that kind of confidence on which you could really be
at ease on the time  that you do play on which we arent that assuming that we can hit up millions but at least if ever that luck do sit beside us and give out that chance
then you wont really be able to hit up those lock ups.
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