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Quote from: upsidedown75 on October 28, 2016, 03:46:28 PM

You may expect them to spend as much or even much more than that. That is not a new thing, to make money from any business, you need to spend money, more the money in your invesment means more the returns, hence I am not surprised to see a bot engulping that huge amount.

You're really ignorant, aren't you?

11 of the top 50 are commercial engines. The top engine, however, is free AND open-source. Time has been spent to making engines more efficient, but if you think that the creation of Chess engines is based solely on a business perspective, then you need to re-evaluate your life.

You don't even know what you're talking about, at all.

"hence I am not surprised to see a bot engulping that huge amount"? What huge amount? You clearly haven't bothered to go to the site, nevermind read anything relevant to price on it.

"You may expect them to spend as much or even much more than that." More than what? adaseb hasn't mentioned anything relating to the price and neither have I. Stop spamming.

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Quote from: adaseb on October 24, 2016, 09:48:31 AM

Quote from: actmyname on October 23, 2016, 08:09:26 PM

Quote from: maku on October 23, 2016, 07:38:50 PM

But I guess on chess.com you will find Grand Masters level players perfectly capable of beating most of Chess bots.
Not everyone has access to advanced Chess programs and those available publicly probably can't beat top human players.

You are wrong twice and clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A publically accessible chess engine called Stockfish is capable of beating many grandmasters, even when at a disadvantage of one pawn.

Everyone has access to this, and it's open-source.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404/

On this page, the top 50 engines are above the world champion's peak rating. But please! Go on about how grandmasters are perfectly capable of beating most chess bots.

Wow, never knew that something like this existed. Its crazy to believe that so much time and money is spent into Chess bot optimizations and everything.

You may expect them to spend as much or even much more than that. That is not a new thing, to make money from any business, you need to spend money, more the money in your invesment means more the returns, hence I am not surprised to see a bot engulping that huge amount.

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Never seen such site but i think it will be very good idea to have one. However i am not that much fan about chess, also have heard some guys have made ethereum smart contract based chess game recently. Can't find link to that news but i have read it some days ago.

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Quote from: The_prodigy on October 26, 2016, 06:46:11 AM

Quote from: geniusboy91 on October 26, 2016, 05:37:18 AM

I also never heard about bitcoin related chess game because pvp take a lot of time, I think majority of the people are interested in that kind of game which is purely based on skill and that is the reason it not have bigger community like luck based games.

It's a set of mind when you are playing with chess and if someone will create games like this and he will put bitcoin on it to bet's people and watch the two player playing chess , Then let's have some money by watching Yes you are right there many people will interested of this kind of game those who really love chess.

I think that is really a brilliant idea by watching other people play and betting on who's gonna win can add up more interest in these kind of game and when players are playing these if they can surely win a game of chess they can get bitcoin too, I think there should be multiple channels to choose from so there would be a variety of players you can choose from and channels where you can play chess too!

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Quote from: geniusboy91 on October 26, 2016, 05:37:18 AM

I also never heard about bitcoin related chess game because pvp take a lot of time, I think majority of the people are interested in that kind of game which is purely based on skill and that is the reason it not have bigger community like luck based games.

It's a set of mind when you are playing with chess and if someone will create games like this and he will put bitcoin on it to bet's people and watch the two player playing chess , Then let's have some money by watching Yes you are right there many people will interested of this kind of game those who really love chess.

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I also never heard about bitcoin related chess game because pvp take a lot of time, I think majority of the people are interested in that kind of game which is purely based on skill and that is the reason it not have bigger community like luck based games.

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Quote from: actmyname on October 25, 2016, 04:22:44 PM

Quote from: Superhitech on October 24, 2016, 11:11:36 PM

Furthermore, I doubt that any bitcoin gamblers are chess grandmasters.

Unlikely. However, the best players in those tournaments were always rated 2200+ on whatever game mode they were playing on, whether it be regular chess or crazyhouse. If great chess players really wanted money, then they would probably participate in larger chess tournaments for cash prizes (live chess over the board) or maybe the annual Millionaire Chess, in which this year the top section's first place prize was $30,000.

Quote from: Superhitech on October 24, 2016, 11:11:36 PM

However, I don't think that using such a complicated bot would be worth it on a small bitcoin chess site.

Wrong... you could always simply run a script that detects the moves that Stockfish outputs and play those, or manually put in the moves. First place for the next two tournaments is $15, and over 2 hours that means it's probably a better rate than some people grind for with their penny signature campaigns. As well, if you simply have more accounts, you seize all of the prize pool ($50). I'm not condoning this, just saying that it would be a possibility.

Quote from: Superhitech on October 24, 2016, 11:11:36 PM

Making a chess site for money is simply not feasible at all, fiat or bitcoin.

Well, it isn't a site where you gamble. These were free tournaments, for all to enter (with a pre-requisite of 20 games, but that's pretty much free). Think of it as a poker freeroll... where it's just a waste of time for anybody good enough to make REAL money from the game.

I think you summerized that there ^^^

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Quote from: Superhitech on October 24, 2016, 11:11:36 PM

Furthermore, I doubt that any bitcoin gamblers are chess grandmasters.

Unlikely. However, the best players in those tournaments were always rated 2200+ on whatever game mode they were playing on, whether it be regular chess or crazyhouse. If great chess players really wanted money, then they would probably participate in larger chess tournaments for cash prizes (live chess over the board) or maybe the annual Millionaire Chess, in which this year the top section's first place prize was $30,000.

Quote from: Superhitech on October 24, 2016, 11:11:36 PM

However, I don't think that using such a complicated bot would be worth it on a small bitcoin chess site.

Wrong... you could always simply run a script that detects the moves that Stockfish outputs and play those, or manually put in the moves. First place for the next two tournaments is $15, and over 2 hours that means it's probably a better rate than some people grind for with their penny signature campaigns. As well, if you simply have more accounts, you seize all of the prize pool ($50). I'm not condoning this, just saying that it would be a possibility.

Quote from: Superhitech on October 24, 2016, 11:11:36 PM

Making a chess site for money is simply not feasible at all, fiat or bitcoin.

Well, it isn't a site where you gamble. These were free tournaments, for all to enter (with a pre-requisite of 20 games, but that's pretty much free). Think of it as a poker freeroll... where it's just a waste of time for anybody good enough to make REAL money from the game.

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Quote from: adaseb on October 24, 2016, 09:48:31 AM

Quote from: actmyname on October 23, 2016, 08:09:26 PM

Quote from: maku on October 23, 2016, 07:38:50 PM

But I guess on chess.com you will find Grand Masters level players perfectly capable of beating most of Chess bots.
Not everyone has access to advanced Chess programs and those available publicly probably can't beat top human players.

You are wrong twice and clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A publically accessible chess engine called Stockfish is capable of beating many grandmasters, even when at a disadvantage of one pawn.

Everyone has access to this, and it's open-source.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404/

On this page, the top 50 engines are above the world champion's peak rating. But please! Go on about how grandmasters are perfectly capable of beating most chess bots.

Furthermore, I doubt that any bitcoin gamblers are chess grandmasters.

However, I don't think that using such a complicated bot would be worth it on a small bitcoin chess site. Making a chess site for money is simply not feasible at all, fiat or bitcoin.

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Quote from: actmyname on October 23, 2016, 08:09:26 PM

Quote from: maku on October 23, 2016, 07:38:50 PM

But I guess on chess.com you will find Grand Masters level players perfectly capable of beating most of Chess bots.
Not everyone has access to advanced Chess programs and those available publicly probably can't beat top human players.

You are wrong twice and clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A publically accessible chess engine called Stockfish is capable of beating many grandmasters, even when at a disadvantage of one pawn.

Everyone has access to this, and it's open-source.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404/

On this page, the top 50 engines are above the world champion's peak rating. But please! Go on about how grandmasters are perfectly capable of beating most chess bots.

Wow, never knew that something like this existed. Its crazy to believe that so much time and money is spent into Chess bot optimizations and everything.

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Quote from: tee-rex on October 24, 2016, 02:58:25 AM

Quote from: SparkedDev on October 23, 2016, 07:27:41 PM

Quote from: tee-rex on October 21, 2016, 09:32:05 AM

There are a few chess playing sites which accept bitcoins and allow PvP matches. They have already been mentioned before, just read the thread from the beginning and you will not ask questions that have already been asked and most likely answered here. It is not very long and makes an interesting read by itself.

Though I still doubt anyone will be able to earn anything there.

Do you have the name of a few because i checked google and didn't find much.

I'm not quite sure about the first site, I mean whether it accepts bitcoins (didn't investigate into this issue), but the second one seems to be accepting as well as paying prizes in bitcoins.

I'd like to clarify this post, then. lichess.org is the site that the tournaments are hosted on, and the funds are provided by BitChess (where you may also find all the relevant information). So these sites are not separate, really. I think it's ending this week though: I only saw tournaments listings go up until this week, so if you're able to play quickly, it's the time to do so!

They were running back in April of this year IIRC.

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Quote from: SparkedDev on October 23, 2016, 07:27:41 PM

Quote from: tee-rex on October 21, 2016, 09:32:05 AM

There are a few chess playing sites which accept bitcoins and allow PvP matches. They have already been mentioned before, just read the thread from the beginning and you will not ask questions that have already been asked and most likely answered here. It is not very long and makes an interesting read by itself.

Though I still doubt anyone will be able to earn anything there.

Do you have the name of a few because i checked google and didn't find much.

You checked with Google but didn't try to check with this very thread, though I specifically mentioned it? The sites have been revealed in this post (with all due credit), don't be lazy to jump there. I'm not quite sure about the first site, I mean whether it accepts bitcoins (didn't investigate into this issue), but the second one seems to be accepting as well as paying prizes in bitcoins.

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Quote from: actmyname on October 23, 2016, 08:09:26 PM

Quote from: maku on October 23, 2016, 07:38:50 PM

But I guess on chess.com you will find Grand Masters level players perfectly capable of beating most of Chess bots.
Not everyone has access to advanced Chess programs and those available publicly probably can't beat top human players.

You are wrong twice and clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A publically accessible chess engine called Stockfish is capable of beating many grandmasters, even when at a disadvantage of one pawn.

Everyone has access to this, and it's open-source.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404/

On this page, the top 50 engines are above the world champion's peak rating. But please! Go on about how grandmasters are perfectly capable of beating most chess bots.

Oh cool thanks.

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Quote from: maku on October 23, 2016, 07:38:50 PM

But I guess on chess.com you will find Grand Masters level players perfectly capable of beating most of Chess bots.
Not everyone has access to advanced Chess programs and those available publicly probably can't beat top human players.

You are wrong twice and clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A publically accessible chess engine called Stockfish is capable of beating many grandmasters, even when at a disadvantage of one pawn.

Everyone has access to this, and it's open-source.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404/

On this page, the top 50 engines are above the world champion's peak rating. But please! Go on about how grandmasters are perfectly capable of beating most chess bots.

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Quote from: adaseb on October 20, 2016, 02:58:56 AM

Quote from: deadsilent on October 20, 2016, 02:05:27 AM

I love chess. Every night im playing chess with my friends.
You should try chess.com. They accepting bitcoin though i have not tried it yet. Thats the only site i know so far. Maybe you can play with Anand and Carlsen there. Lol

That's not a gambling site I don't think. It seems like its only for fun but they have tournaments and stuff. Honestly its too easy to cheat on Chess playing it online.

But I guess on chess.com you will find Grand Masters level players perfectly capable of beating most of Chess bots.
Not everyone has access to advanced Chess programs and those available publicly probably can't beat top human players.

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Quote from: tee-rex on October 21, 2016, 09:32:05 AM

There are a few chess playing sites which accept bitcoins and allow PvP matches. They have already been mentioned before, just read the thread from the beginning and you will not ask questions that have already been asked and most likely answered here. It is not very long and makes an interesting read by itself.

Though I still doubt anyone will be able to earn anything there.

Do you have the name of a few because i checked google and didn't find much.

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I often gamble but do not know if there is much less chess pvp sites. I think there is not a gambling game of chess. maybe if there might be a guessing game of chess. there are many gambling gan. staying in select Cheesy

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Not gambling related but anyone who's into chess might like to see what a friend of mine does at Great Chesspectations:
https://www.facebook.com/102204166516347/info
http://greatchesspectations.com/

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Quote from: tee-rex on October 23, 2016, 06:38:08 AM

Quote from: adaseb on October 23, 2016, 06:07:47 AM

Quote from: tee-rex on October 21, 2016, 09:32:05 AM

Quote from: Kotone on October 21, 2016, 07:21:31 AM

Quote from: Omegasun on September 14, 2016, 11:52:36 PM

hello there i just want to ask if you know a gambling site that offers a PVP chess game? I want to play some chess and at the same time earn some profit, Cheesy

I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds. Wink

If there's an chess game that really accept bitcoin as payments for those everyone who makes bet's then why don't create one ? it will be more unique that you are going to do chess gambling and this will be new as well if you are really pro when it comes of chess games.

There are a few chess playing sites which accept bitcoins and allow PvP matches. They have already been mentioned before, just read the thread from the beginning and you will not ask questions that have already been asked and most likely answered here. It is not very long and makes an interesting read by itself.

Though I still doubt anyone will be able to earn anything there.

I should look into this but how does the PVP control whether the people are actually humans or if they are using some kind of computer chess bot. Like everyone said before, its very easy to cheat in Chess or at least have a huge advantage.

I don't know really. I watched a few games there played in allegedly real time (though them might well be sped-up replays with pauses removed), and all I can say is that it is impossible for a human being to play with such speed. I'm not even talking about thinking over the next move, it would be just as impossible to capture your opponent's move first, then move and click the mouse so insanely fast. Unless you are a bot yourself, of course, but in that case you need neither mouse nor screen.

This has already been discussed before.

I like sports betting I played all games, But I never tried Chess game. According to you, it is not possible to make win right. I have doubt that we will play aginst 2nd player or the 2nd player is the bot? Because before playing this game, i want some information, without having proper knowledge if I play means it's loss for me. If anybody shares full information means it will be helpful.

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Quote from: adaseb on October 23, 2016, 06:07:47 AM

Quote from: tee-rex on October 21, 2016, 09:32:05 AM

Quote from: Kotone on October 21, 2016, 07:21:31 AM

Quote from: Omegasun on September 14, 2016, 11:52:36 PM

hello there i just want to ask if you know a gambling site that offers a PVP chess game? I want to play some chess and at the same time earn some profit, Cheesy

I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds. Wink

If there's an chess game that really accept bitcoin as payments for those everyone who makes bet's then why don't create one ? it will be more unique that you are going to do chess gambling and this will be new as well if you are really pro when it comes of chess games.

There are a few chess playing sites which accept bitcoins and allow PvP matches. They have already been mentioned before, just read the thread from the beginning and you will not ask questions that have already been asked and most likely answered here. It is not very long and makes an interesting read by itself.

Though I still doubt anyone will be able to earn anything there.

I should look into this but how does the PVP control whether the people are actually humans or if they are using some kind of computer chess bot. Like everyone said before, its very easy to cheat in Chess or at least have a huge advantage.

I don't know really. I watched a few games there played in allegedly real time (though them might well be sped-up replays with pauses removed), and all I can say is that it is impossible for a human being to play with such speed. I'm not even talking about thinking over the next move, it would be just as impossible to capture your opponent's move first, then move and click the mouse so insanely fast. Unless you are a bot yourself, of course, but in that case you need neither mouse nor screen.

This has already been discussed before.

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