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Quote from: Omegasun on September 14, 2016, 11:52:36 PM

hello there i just want to ask if you know a gambling site that offers a PVP chess game? I want to play some chess and at the same time earn some profit, Cheesy

I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds. Wink

Cgbets.com have developed chess into one of their game. You can try it on their website. They also allow people to use bitcoin each game as a price for a winner. You can earn some profit when you win a game

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Quote from: Omegasun on September 14, 2016, 11:52:36 PM

hello there i just want to ask if you know a gambling site that offers a PVP chess game? I want to play some chess and at the same time earn some profit, Cheesy

I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds. Wink

i think your idea to earn bitcoin with ches gambling is not good . because you need to give a lot of time for such types of game even you have sharp mind to play chess .

This is somehow true but still it would be a good past time and also if you are really good you could able to make money with it no matter how long time would be spent as long you take profits then it would be no problem at all unless if you are a busy man then its not ideal to waste time on this things.

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Quote from: Omegasun on September 14, 2016, 11:52:36 PM

hello there i just want to ask if you know a gambling site that offers a PVP chess game? I want to play some chess and at the same time earn some profit, Cheesy

I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds. Wink

since gambling always results in to loss . but if you are successful in playing chess and you have lot of time then your descion is right to gamble . you can visit www.chess.com which os bitcoin gambling site for chess plays .

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Quote from: Omegasun on September 14, 2016, 11:52:36 PM

hello there i just want to ask if you know a gambling site that offers a PVP chess game? I want to play some chess and at the same time earn some profit, Cheesy

I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds. Wink

i think your idea to earn bitcoin with ches gambling is not good . because you need to give a lot of time for such types of game even you have sharp mind to play chess .

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Quote from: Prettygirl01315 on October 01, 2016, 09:03:49 PM

I am also looking for this but I want PVP or Man to Man play with chess or your opponent is also a Human and not AI. They will bet for the game both side. And the house start them to play the house will be the referree.

Didn't you read? The games are PvP. They would have to be PvP, or else it's quite literally impossible to win unless you yourself use an algorithm to face them. I don't know what you're talking about.

I've already stated that the games seem fair. And in the case that someone DOES cheat, the host can simply deny payment and move to the second winner... then the third... and the fourth. There's no point in cheating and risking your reputation - unless you decide to use a different IP every time and create a huge number of accounts (all to meet the requirements), which is a waste of time. You would earn more by working.

Please don't spam. I understand you're scraping for those cents and they're incredibly valuable to you, but try and find a way to stop. I'm pretty sure even you know that a post history filled with one-liners on general threads about vague crap is not something that contributes to this community.

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Quote from: tee-rex on October 01, 2016, 11:15:15 AM

Time limits could be an issue for humans only. An experienced web developer would code a simple script that would analyze the incoming traffic and feed the moves to a chess bot in less than no time. In fact, I watched a few games, and it seems that only bots are actually playing there. The speed with which moves are made is simply not possible for a human being. You just can't move the mouse so fast, let alone think over the next move. Nevertheless, it is fascinating to watch the bots play against each other.

"plus the fact that cheating would be more obvious in bullet chess - if they do a lot of wild moves (that are sourced from an algorithm) quickly and consistently, since you have a lot of blitz and bullet games to play."

I'm sure that they would have analysis to find if someone's cheating or not. After all, they're running the tournaments and are aware of the fact that there's online cheating. With a free buy-in, you would want to prevent that.

As for the speed issue, there are premoves in chess, and as an actual chess player, I know that I can play bullet chess quite quickly. One move per second is not outside of the realm of possibilities, along with the fact that you can queue up following moves. Plus, when the time drains down to the end, you'll see a lot of garbage moves - to try and flag the other player.

I looked at some game histories - and a lot of the time, the moves seemed human. I really do not think that cheaters would be on there, or if they are, that they would be caught.

(By the way, there's a requirement to play 20 blitz games before joining the blitz tournament, and I doubt lots of people have Crazyhouse algorithms. If you don't know what that variation is, then google it.)

I am also looking for this but I want PVP or Man to Man play with chess or your opponent is also a Human and not AI. They will bet for the game both side. And the house start them to play the house will be the referree.

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For me, I have not seen any gambling site promoting chess but if OP is interested to build one I would be more happy to try it out but developing something like this will have to rely so much on PVP because I dont see myself playing against computer and a level of my ability of a medium player only for the computer to be configured to operate at a Pro level only for me to lose at an unfair level.

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Quote from: tee-rex on October 01, 2016, 11:15:15 AM

Time limits could be an issue for humans only. An experienced web developer would code a simple script that would analyze the incoming traffic and feed the moves to a chess bot in less than no time. In fact, I watched a few games, and it seems that only bots are actually playing there. The speed with which moves are made is simply not possible for a human being. You just can't move the mouse so fast, let alone think over the next move. Nevertheless, it is fascinating to watch the bots play against each other.

"plus the fact that cheating would be more obvious in bullet chess - if they do a lot of wild moves (that are sourced from an algorithm) quickly and consistently, since you have a lot of blitz and bullet games to play."

I'm sure that they would have analysis to find if someone's cheating or not. After all, they're running the tournaments and are aware of the fact that there's online cheating. With a free buy-in, you would want to prevent that.

As for the speed issue, there are premoves in chess, and as an actual chess player, I know that I can play bullet chess quite quickly. One move per second is not outside of the realm of possibilities, along with the fact that you can queue up following moves. Plus, when the time drains down to the end, you'll see a lot of garbage moves - to try and flag the other player.

I looked at some game histories - and a lot of the time, the moves seemed human. I really do not think that cheaters would be on there, or if they are, that they would be caught.

(By the way, there's a requirement to play 20 blitz games before joining the blitz tournament, and I doubt lots of people have Crazyhouse algorithms. If you don't know what that variation is, then google it.)

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Quote from: actmyname on October 01, 2016, 10:18:04 AM

Actually, guys, I've found that lichess.org hosts the "BitChess" games in which you play blitz/bullet games (short games) and compete for prizes paid in Bitcoin. This is actually feasible because I would think that most people who were planning to cheat would only be able to do so without such a short time limit, plus the fact that cheating would be more obvious in bullet chess - if they do a lot of wild moves (that are sourced from an algorithm) quickly and consistently, since you have a lot of blitz and bullet games to play.

Seriously, check it out if you're a fan of chess.

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BitChess.org

I wan't aware of sites like these. But as tee-rex said blitz chess can be exploited in the same way as standard full-time chess game.

With online chess there will always be element of doubt if you are facing real opponents it is nature of that game.

If you really can earn money by playing chess there I wonder if games are not being exploited alredy.

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Quote from: actmyname on October 01, 2016, 10:18:04 AM

Actually, guys, I've found that lichess.org hosts the "BitChess" games in which you play blitz/bullet games (short games) and compete for prizes paid in Bitcoin. This is actually feasible because I would think that most people who were planning to cheat would only be able to do so without such a short time limit, plus the fact that cheating would be more obvious in bullet chess - if they do a lot of wild moves (that are sourced from an algorithm) quickly and consistently, since you have a lot of blitz and bullet games to play.

Time limits could be an issue for humans only. An experienced web developer would code a simple script that would analyze the incoming traffic and feed the moves to a chess bot in less than no time. In fact, I watched a few games, and it seems that only bots are actually playing there. The speed with which moves are made is simply not possible for a human being. You just can't move the mouse so fast, let alone think over the next move. Nevertheless, it is fascinating to watch the bots play against each other.

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Actually, guys, I've found that lichess.org hosts the "BitChess" games in which you play blitz/bullet games (short games) and compete for prizes paid in Bitcoin. This is actually feasible because I would think that most people who were planning to cheat would only be able to do so without such a short time limit, plus the fact that cheating would be more obvious in bullet chess - if they do a lot of wild moves (that are sourced from an algorithm) quickly and consistently, since you have a lot of blitz and bullet games to play.

Seriously, check it out if you're a fan of chess.

lichess.org
BitChess.org

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Quote from: arcanaaerobics on September 30, 2016, 06:36:41 PM

I saw this thing too tee-rex, don't remember the name, you have to put the pieces and surround the opponent pieces, right? This game have a lot of possibilities... If I good remember, the human won 1 game but the bot won 2(or more). "AI" is amazing, can you imagine the future?? Shocked

The name of the game is go (pronounced in the same way as the verb), in Japan it is also known as igo. Yes, its aim is to surround more territory than your opponent.

Regarding chess and AI, Deep Blue, a specialized chess-playing computer developed by IBM which defeated a reigning chess champion (Garry Kasparov then), got its playing strength from hundreds of special purpose chess chips. It had been brute forcing around 200 million positions per second, and this record seems to be still unbroken. Modern chess-playing software, though capable of evaluating only a few dozen million positions per second, is more "clever" in a sense, due to heavy usage of heuristics.

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Quote from: tee-rex on September 30, 2016, 03:15:54 AM

Quote from: Omegasun on September 20, 2016, 08:42:51 AM

I think there is a way to easily detect bot or any involvement of third party app in the game by observing the behaviour and the timing of it's next move. Just like on other online games. I hoped someone will develop this kind of game with a good security. Take note that the involvement of btc is just for adding excitement on the game. Angry

It had long been thought that chess was an intellectual game revealing the power of human thought and intellect until it became abundantly clear that the game can be efficiently brute-forced, and our typical computers can easily smash even distinguished grandmasters. Personally, I never found anything intellectual about chess (whenever I lost it was primarily due to losing a piece out of lack of attention), but maybe I just couldn't play chess very well.

After humanity finally and decidedly lost chess to computers, the palm of supremacy was yielded to go, the ancient Chinese game, which is considered vastly more complex than chess (or intellectual, if you please). And what do you think? Humanity lost again! The computer program utilizing neural network algorithms, machine-learning techniques, and some other dark magic recently defeated one of the three top players in the world today. There is virtually no more classical board games left to lose, we've been bettered in all of them.

That's a good point Omegasun, people easily can run a side software to project moves and the all games gone...

I saw this thing too tee-rex, don't remember the name, you have to put the pieces and surround the opponent pieces, right? This game have a lot of possibilities... If I good remember, the human won 1 game but the bot won 2(or more). "AI" is amazing, can you imagine the future?? Shocked

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Quote from: Omegasun on September 20, 2016, 08:42:51 AM

I think there is a way to easily detect bot or any involvement of third party app in the game by observing the behaviour and the timing of it's next move. Just like on other online games. I hoped someone will develop this kind of game with a good security. Take note that the involvement of btc is just for adding excitement on the game. Angry

It had long been thought that chess was an intellectual game revealing the power of human thought and intellect until it became abundantly clear that the game can be efficiently brute-forced, and our typical computers can easily smash even distinguished grandmasters. Personally, I never found anything intellectual about chess (whenever I lost it was primarily due to losing a piece out of lack of attention), but maybe I just couldn't play chess very well.

After humanity finally and decidedly lost chess to computers, the palm of supremacy was yielded to go, the ancient Chinese game, which is considered vastly more complex than chess (or intellectual, if you please). And what do you think? Humanity lost again! The computer program utilizing neural network algorithms, machine-learning techniques, and some other dark magic recently defeated one of the three top players in the world today. There is virtually no more classical board games left to lose, we've been bettered in all of them.

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Quote from: gabmen on September 26, 2016, 07:16:26 AM

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Quote from: SparkedDev on September 25, 2016, 03:24:22 PM

Is there a list or table top style games like chess checkers and such that uses bitcoins that anyone could share?

I don't think that list exist or that list would be very small since not many parties know about bitcoin or see the benefit of bitcoin and would not accept it. For that gambling niche it is to early. But for gambling games there are plenty of alternatives.

yeah I don't think such exists because even for cash games, table top style is not that popular to place bets on so I don't think we'll have a chess or any table games for gambling or betting

While betting is not part of the game of chess, at least as we play it in its current form, betting on the outcome of the match should be no different than betting in any other sport.

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Quote from: Omegasun on September 26, 2016, 06:48:49 AM

[sorry, I removed color]Announcement there will be a new gambling site that offers board games! Just wait for it. I will post it on this thread soon once it finalyze. I'm already talking to the owner and he is planning to run a signature campaign for his site. I hope you support board games type of gambling guys! [/color][/font][/size] Shocked

It is actually great idea. It is something that bitcoin gambling is lacking at this moment. We have excessive amount of Dice sites, standard casino games and usual stuff.
But we lack board games and different ways to spent our coins. I only wish that it will be serious site. And of course we can't have Chess or checkers or similar games.

We only need board games where dice determine your luck.

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Quote from: Bitcoinbro on September 25, 2016, 04:48:02 PM

Quote from: SparkedDev on September 25, 2016, 03:24:22 PM

Is there a list or table top style games like chess checkers and such that uses bitcoins that anyone could share?

I don't think that list exist or that list would be very small since not many parties know about bitcoin or see the benefit of bitcoin and would not accept it. For that gambling niche it is to early. But for gambling games there are plenty of alternatives.

yeah I don't think such exists because even for cash games, table top style is not that popular to place bets on so I don't think we'll have a chess or any table games for gambling or betting

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Quote from: FuckOffWillYou on September 20, 2016, 11:44:04 AM

What`s the problem to find people who use BTC and make tournament among them? You can make fair games only when you can see your opponent`s "eyes". End of story
P.S. Chess isn`t about money at all.

Any kind of internet competition even if you can see your opponent in a webcam can be easily rigged, he could have second monitor in front of him or someone who will tip him the movies.
There is no way that you can play chess over internet for money while being sure that people are being honest.

P.S. So winners of live Chess tournaments are not rewarded with any kind of prize?

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Announcement there will be a new gambling site that offers board games! Just wait for it. I will post it on this thread soon once it finalyze. I'm already talking to the owner and he is planning to run a signature campaign for his site. I hope you support board games type of gambling guys! Shocked

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