Topic: Chess Game that Used Bitcoin? - page 5. (Read 5358 times)
How would a chess game that betted real money assure that the perso they are going against isn't using a computer to cheat. As much as I love this idea, it is really hard to distinguish people using bots and people who are good.
So... is there any place to play chess online for bitcoins?
I would pay flash games like 1 minute for players them they won't have time to cheat.
If you know a site please let me know.
Thanks!
I would pay flash games like 1 minute for players them they won't have time to cheat.
If you know a site please let me know.
Thanks!
I am an active chess player on chess.com (not very good though) but so far the only thing that i have seen that comes to chess and crypto was the chesscoin project.
It is still in development, although they encounters some issues. But it would be great if they or another start up can realize this. Having tournaments withs BTC prizes per level sounds awesome.
hello there i just want to ask if you know a gambling site that offers a PVP chess game? I want to play some chess and at the same time earn some profit, 
I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds.
I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds.
Why there aren't many of these PvPs is because you won't know if you are playing with a bot.
For example
I take black, you take white.
I run a PvE chess game at maximum difficulty on my PC. (I take white)
You make your move.
I make the same move in the PvE game, wait for it to make the smartest move, and make the same move in the real game. Wait and repeat.
I think there was a game that accepted BTC but I'm not sure if it's still around,it's a good idea really but there have to be more players in order for it to have the success it needs,maybe that's why I can't think of such a game right now
So... is there any place to play chess online for bitcoins?
I would pay flash games like 1 minute for players them they won't have time to cheat.
If you know a site please let me know.
Thanks!
I would pay flash games like 1 minute for players them they won't have time to cheat.
If you know a site please let me know.
Thanks!
I played online chess a lot before, but I didn't have a clue about existence of this little cheats. How to win easily in chess, well thanks a lot for this nice advices. Now I understand why its hard to make some gambling out of this game. Its very easy to make a scam without any special program, just some good pro chess and that's it.
Maybe with timer there is a chance to solve this problem, who can watch game and in program if there is just couple seconds for that? Maybe we can make some tournament here, with fast timer, so there will be no possibilities for this kind of scams?
Maybe with timer there is a chance to solve this problem, who can watch game and in program if there is just couple seconds for that? Maybe we can make some tournament here, with fast timer, so there will be no possibilities for this kind of scams?
Yeah I don't know why we are still discussing this. Chess is more of a hobby game or for fun game and not a good game for gambling since its very easy to program a bot to cheat.
Yes i agree that this game can not be used as the gamblig application game because there will be cheater occurred but may be for the user bitcoin who live nearby , they can make a chess competition with a prize bitcoin 
I'm still pro-human, as it were. Algorithms, even the newest ones, still need hardware to run on. If I remember correctly, every time a reigning world champion had been playing against a machine (for example Kasparov versus Deep Blue), the machine had been either a general-purpose top-of-the-notch supercomputer or a custom built device with massively parallel processing technology crafted specifically for playing chess and nothing else. And even in these cases the outcome was far from predetermined. I understand that today's regular computers are a lot faster and have a lot more memory than they were and had some twenty years ago. But I still think that they are not quite there yet to crush humiliatingly a grandmaster level chess player.
Besides, what is an estimated elo of a chess algorithm? Any chess match is time restricted, and would the algo show the same elo on some decrepit hardware given the time limitations for making a move? In my view, an estimated elo of such an algorithm is more hype than reality.
Check out this video: Hikaru Nakamura vs Stockfish minus b-pawnBesides, what is an estimated elo of a chess algorithm? Any chess match is time restricted, and would the algo show the same elo on some decrepit hardware given the time limitations for making a move? In my view, an estimated elo of such an algorithm is more hype than reality.
Here, a grandmaster was playing against Stockfish (back in 2014, so it must have been an earlier version) where he had a pawn advantage. And then proceeded to lose.
An estimated elo of 3447 doesn't mean that in reality it would be ~3000. No. For Stockfish 7, it's elo is 3339 +-16. Surely, they predetermined older algorithms' elo and then started basing newer ones off that, and it kept going until what we have now. The only way grandmasters are able to compete with the best chess algorithms is if the algorithms have a handicap. This is the reality of it. Do a little bit of research and you'll understand how powerful they truly are. No, we're not anywhere close to "solving" chess, but the analysis of these programs is pretty top-notch
Anyway, you can always employ the old trick of passing on the moves between two chess programs. And if we have the same program playing against itself, it still boils down to how fast the underlying hardware is, right? Apparently, the faster instance of such a program will most certainly smash the slower one. Applying this logic further to programs with lower estimated elo running on faster equipment and winning against programs with higher elo running on slower equipment (as slow as required to guarantee a loss for the latter), we have no other option left but to conclude that an estimated elo of a chess program should necessarily be a function of how fast hardware is in respect to playing chess. In other words, the algorithmic strengths of a chess program can be totally negated by using scrap facilities.
Out of curiosity, could a chess program running on a slower computer even theoretically win a match against a faster instance of itself, provided all other conditions being equal? I think it is still possible to end the match in a tie, for example, due to insufficient material on the side of the faster instance of the program, but what about a victory? Or, is the outcome completely predetermined?
I think that inquiry is based purely on the difference in processing power. Since the technology has been advanced exponentially, many older computing processors would not be able to compete with newer ones provided there is a time limit - some may not be able to handle the algorithm, even! Maybe they'll rust before a game is finished
Yeah I don't know why we are still discussing this. Chess is more of a hobby game or for fun game and not a good game for gambling since its very easy to program a bot to cheat.
I'm still pro-human, as it were. Algorithms, even the newest ones, still need hardware to run on. If I remember correctly, every time a reigning world champion had been playing against a machine (for example Kasparov versus Deep Blue), the machine had been either a general-purpose top-of-the-notch supercomputer or a custom built device with massively parallel processing technology crafted specifically for playing chess and nothing else. And even in these cases the outcome was far from predetermined. I understand that today's regular computers are a lot faster and have a lot more memory than they were and had some twenty years ago. But I still think that they are not quite there yet to crush humiliatingly a grandmaster level chess player.
Besides, what is an estimated elo of a chess algorithm? Any chess match is time restricted, and would the algo show the same elo on some decrepit hardware given the time limitations for making a move? In my view, an estimated elo of such an algorithm is more hype than reality.
Check out this video: Hikaru Nakamura vs Stockfish minus b-pawnBesides, what is an estimated elo of a chess algorithm? Any chess match is time restricted, and would the algo show the same elo on some decrepit hardware given the time limitations for making a move? In my view, an estimated elo of such an algorithm is more hype than reality.
Here, a grandmaster was playing against Stockfish (back in 2014, so it must have been an earlier version) where he had a pawn advantage. And then proceeded to lose.
An estimated elo of 3447 doesn't mean that in reality it would be ~3000. No. For Stockfish 7, it's elo is 3339 +-16. Surely, they predetermined older algorithms' elo and then started basing newer ones off that, and it kept going until what we have now. The only way grandmasters are able to compete with the best chess algorithms is if the algorithms have a handicap. This is the reality of it. Do a little bit of research and you'll understand how powerful they truly are. No, we're not anywhere close to "solving" chess, but the analysis of these programs is pretty top-notch
Anyway, you can always employ the old trick of passing on the moves between two chess programs. And if we have the same program playing against itself, it still boils down to how fast the underlying hardware is, right? Apparently, the faster instance of such a program will most certainly smash the slower one. Applying this logic further to programs with lower estimated elo running on faster equipment and winning against programs with higher elo running on slower equipment (as slow as required to guarantee a loss for the latter), we have no other option left but to conclude that an estimated elo of a chess program should necessarily be a function of how fast hardware is in respect to playing chess. In other words, the algorithmic strengths of a chess program can be totally negated by using scrap facilities.
Out of curiosity, could a chess program running on a slower computer even theoretically win a match against a faster instance of itself, provided all other conditions being equal? I think it is still possible to end the match in a tie, for example, due to insufficient material on the side of the faster instance of the program, but what about a victory? Or, is the outcome completely predetermined?
hello there i just want to ask if you know a gambling site that offers a PVP chess game? I want to play some chess and at the same time earn some profit,
I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds.
It is very unlikely that such a platform exists, chees is not a casino game, computers play at a superior level than humans now, so it will be very easy for someone to cheat using software, in fact that is a very big problem even in free platforms like chess.com.I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds.
Well there is a full possibilities that they can use this application in there advantage but I think in doing this and if players would not win a game a single time many players would not play anymore and I think that if a chess gambling would be on full play there would be a demo play, computer vs or human to human play!
and yes chess is not a gambling game, but there are a mine craft game that needs bitcoin to play and would give bitcoin if you click the box without a bomb on it, and I think in this method if you win you can certainly win bitcoin as price!
hello there i just want to ask if you know a gambling site that offers a PVP chess game? I want to play some chess and at the same time earn some profit,
I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds.
It is very unlikely that such a platform exists, chees is not a casino game, computers play at a superior level than humans now, so it will be very easy for someone to cheat using software, in fact that is a very big problem even in free platforms like chess.com. I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds.
i think is nothing site chess game
and winner can reward bitcoin
only chess game online is ready but not supported reward bitcoin
or batle user from user reward bitcoin not supported
only chess game online
and winner can reward bitcoin
only chess game online is ready but not supported reward bitcoin
or batle user from user reward bitcoin not supported
only chess game online
where link iam interest play cheese game online
advantage get reward bitcoin
I don't know a chess using bitcoin but you can try to play with Bella, it's a altcoin with a chess game, here's the thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bellacoin-bela-scrypt-coin-annoucement-437825
Have PVP and you can play with a bot, like a faucet...
Have PVP and you can play with a bot, like a faucet...
hello there i just want to ask if you know a gambling site that offers a PVP chess game? I want to play some chess and at the same time earn some profit,
I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds.
they not yet develop it once its done we can should try to play and make some bets to make it more thrill you want that? i have a little knoledge about chess im playing at facebook with friends and it would be fun if they going to add it on gambling sites I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds.
I'm still pro-human, as it were. Algorithms, even the newest ones, still need hardware to run on. If I remember correctly, every time a reigning world champion had been playing against a machine (for example Kasparov versus Deep Blue), the machine had been either a general-purpose top-of-the-notch supercomputer or a custom built device with massively parallel processing technology crafted specifically for playing chess and nothing else. And even in these cases the outcome was far from predetermined. I understand that today's regular computers are a lot faster and have a lot more memory than they were and had some twenty years ago. But I still think that they are not quite there yet to crush humiliatingly a grandmaster level chess player.
Besides, what is an estimated elo of a chess algorithm? Any chess match is time restricted, and would the algo show the same elo on some decrepit hardware given the time limitations for making a move? In my view, an estimated elo of such an algorithm is more hype than reality.
Check out this video: Hikaru Nakamura vs Stockfish minus b-pawnBesides, what is an estimated elo of a chess algorithm? Any chess match is time restricted, and would the algo show the same elo on some decrepit hardware given the time limitations for making a move? In my view, an estimated elo of such an algorithm is more hype than reality.
Here, a grandmaster was playing against Stockfish (back in 2014, so it must have been an earlier version) where he had a pawn advantage. And then proceeded to lose.
An estimated elo of 3447 doesn't mean that in reality it would be ~3000. No. For Stockfish 7, it's elo is 3339 +-16. Surely, they predetermined older algorithms' elo and then started basing newer ones off that, and it kept going until what we have now. The only way grandmasters are able to compete with the best chess algorithms is if the algorithms have a handicap. This is the reality of it. Do a little bit of research and you'll understand how powerful they truly are. No, we're not anywhere close to "solving" chess, but the analysis of these programs is pretty top-notch.
About Deep Blue, that was 20 years ago. Technology has advanced greatly since then. Now, I can load any old chess app on my phone, play the computer, and it'll probably be twice as good as Deep Blue.
hello there i just want to ask if you know a gambling site that offers a PVP chess game? I want to play some chess and at the same time earn some profit,
I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds.
I'm tired on playing with bot at my computer. Thanks in advance for future responds.
It would rather be a betting site. Betting on your own game is not gambling. Gambling is random and in the houses favour. This is not and in your favour providing you a good chess player.
I think chess is a horrible gambling game, I will not be ready to bet any real amount, because required skill and experience to win 
Also it will be difficult for you to win against programmed Robotsyeah I agree, bots will make chess a very hard gambling game to win. also not all people or gamblers that is are that much experienced in playing chess. so I think it's really not suitable to place bets on
I think chess is a horrible gambling game, I will not be ready to bet any real amount, because required skill and experience to win
It is not gambling at all. There is no luck element in it. All information is given to you and you have access to you at any time.What I would like to see is chess variant with changed rules, maybe board will be covered at first and then revealed after X moves or something like that.
But I still think that they are not quite there yet to crush humiliatingly a grandmaster level chess player.
Besides, what is an estimated elo of a chess algorithm? Any chess match is time restricted, and would the algo show the same elo on some decrepit hardware given the time limitations for making a move? In my view, an estimated elo of such an algorithm is more hype than reality.
Besides, what is an estimated elo of a chess algorithm? Any chess match is time restricted, and would the algo show the same elo on some decrepit hardware given the time limitations for making a move? In my view, an estimated elo of such an algorithm is more hype than reality.
I'm not suggesting humans are inferior to machines or anything, well they are the ones designing the chess algorithm in the first place. You are totally underestimating these chess algorithms.
Can we even beat a calculator?
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