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September 25, 2016, 04:54:16 PM
#90
Oh okay thank your do you know any of the alternatives or keywords i should search?
sr. member
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September 25, 2016, 04:48:02 PM
#89
Is there a list or table top style games like chess checkers and such that uses bitcoins that anyone could share?

I don't think that list exist or that list would be very small since not many parties know about bitcoin or see the benefit of bitcoin and would not accept it. For that gambling niche it is to early. But for gambling games there are plenty of alternatives.
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September 25, 2016, 03:24:22 PM
#88
Is there a list or table top style games like chess checkers and such that uses bitcoins that anyone could share?
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September 20, 2016, 07:56:48 PM
#87
I played online chess a lot before, but I didn't have a clue about existence of this little cheats. How to win easily in chess, well thanks a lot for this nice advices. Now I understand why its hard to make some gambling out of this game. Its very easy to make a scam without any special program, just some good pro chess and that's it.
Maybe with timer there is a chance to solve this problem, who can watch game and in program if there is just couple seconds for that? Maybe we can make some tournament here, with fast timer, so there will be no possibilities for this kind of scams?

People will always find a way to cheat even if we played a 30 seconds game, I’m pretty sure that with enough time I could create a bot that will take the moves in the screen and then input those moves on the chess program and then do the opposite. So in my opinion there is no way around the problem with the cheaters.

Technically, you wouldn't even need to read moves off the screen, you could just analyze the incoming http traffic. On the flipping side, the problem with cheating could still be handled by analyzing the moves of the opponents. As I understand it, the same algorithm would make the same moves given the same position, so it can be guesstimated if one or both players are using bots. Unless the bots apply some fuzzy logic or self-training neural network when searching for the best move, of course.

Yeah you can do that too, but since I do not know how to do that I did not mention it, and about catching the cheaters the solution that you propose could work, but like always there are workarounds, for example there’s chess software that will analyze a position and give you a list of several movements that you could make in order of how strong the move is, the only thing to do next is that your bot selects randomly one of the top 5 moves.
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September 20, 2016, 04:20:41 PM
#86
As much as I would want that to be the case, I'm afraid, it is only a matter of time when somebody tries to use (or has already tried) some transmitting device (like Google glass or an eye implant of sorts)

Back in about 2003 I played in a Chess tournament (live in person) and the top prize was £500; a huge amount of money for me at the time.  I was determined to win this prize at any cost but I wasn't really any good at chess. However that was minor issue for me as I had a plan.

At the time phones with a vibration alert were pretty new, so I just stuffed one up inside my ass and my friend sitting in the crowd was playing out the games on a little chess computer (many other spectators were doing similar).  Then he'd get the recommended move and keep phoning me and hanging up.   Obviously I couldn't answer the phone (since it was up my ass and probably smelled a bit funny too)... but we'd both been in the boy scouts and knew Morse Code and he was sending me the messages using that  Cool

Easiest £500 I ever made.
LOL, I do not know what to make of this story, in one way it’s hilarious and on the other… well is probably not a good idea to go there, but on a serious note, cheating at chess in a live tournament is nothing new, it has happened before and it will keep happening.

I am pretty sure he didn't do that but he copied that from a movie. Or from some other tournament. Seems like a lot of trouble to do for $500. Also the other player would hear the cell phone vibrate. Cell phone vibrates were crazy loud back then.

Lol nice story.Also vibrating phones were around before 2000 . Ps2 came out on 2000 I still remember.

Although you could have just got a viberator with a remote form a sex store. ^^
legendary
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September 20, 2016, 02:19:35 PM
#85
As much as I would want that to be the case, I'm afraid, it is only a matter of time when somebody tries to use (or has already tried) some transmitting device (like Google glass or an eye implant of sorts)

Back in about 2003 I played in a Chess tournament (live in person) and the top prize was £500; a huge amount of money for me at the time.  I was determined to win this prize at any cost but I wasn't really any good at chess. However that was minor issue for me as I had a plan.

At the time phones with a vibration alert were pretty new, so I just stuffed one up inside my ass and my friend sitting in the crowd was playing out the games on a little chess computer (many other spectators were doing similar).  Then he'd get the recommended move and keep phoning me and hanging up.   Obviously I couldn't answer the phone (since it was up my ass and probably smelled a bit funny too)... but we'd both been in the boy scouts and knew Morse Code and he was sending me the messages using that  Cool

Easiest £500 I ever made.
LOL, I do not know what to make of this story, in one way it’s hilarious and on the other… well is probably not a good idea to go there, but on a serious note, cheating at chess in a live tournament is nothing new, it has happened before and it will keep happening.

I am pretty sure he didn't do that but he copied that from a movie. Or from some other tournament. Seems like a lot of trouble to do for $500. Also the other player would hear the cell phone vibrate. Cell phone vibrates were crazy loud back then.
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September 20, 2016, 01:02:28 PM
#84
As much as I would want that to be the case, I'm afraid, it is only a matter of time when somebody tries to use (or has already tried) some transmitting device (like Google glass or an eye implant of sorts)

Back in about 2003 I played in a Chess tournament (live in person) and the top prize was £500; a huge amount of money for me at the time.  I was determined to win this prize at any cost but I wasn't really any good at chess. However that was minor issue for me as I had a plan.

At the time phones with a vibration alert were pretty new, so I just stuffed one up inside my ass and my friend sitting in the crowd was playing out the games on a little chess computer (many other spectators were doing similar).  Then he'd get the recommended move and keep phoning me and hanging up.   Obviously I couldn't answer the phone (since it was up my ass and probably smelled a bit funny too)... but we'd both been in the boy scouts and knew Morse Code and he was sending me the messages using that  Cool

Easiest £500 I ever made.
LOL, I do not know what to make of this story, in one way it’s hilarious and on the other… well is probably not a good idea to go there, but on a serious note, cheating at chess in a live tournament is nothing new, it has happened before and it will keep happening.
legendary
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September 20, 2016, 12:19:37 PM
#83
It could be possible, yes, but I don't think that you will be sure on whether your opponent is just a bot or not. Anyone could make this platform but the question would be its legitimacy and its transparency to its peers that it's not using smart/intelligent bots just to get money from their users. I have always wanted to play chess online with rewards or bets, but I couldn't find any that seems to be legit PvP and not a PvE where the enemy is just a bot.

Could we not set a 3rd party site that would run for us bitcoiners that would allow us to play on Chess.com?
Have a escrow that both parties send to and lock in 1-5 games per a set amount. The program releases once games are finished. If the games do not all finish within agreed set time,the bets for unplayed get sent back.

Seems simple enough to set up,it would just be flying under the radar of Chess.com that would be the hard part.

I wonder if chess.com would agree to such an idea, though it could be a nice implementation once it goes up and running. The thing is, I could use a program or a bot for me to win the game without anyone else verifying it. We could use a camera, yes, but I don't think bitcoiners would love that idea.
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September 20, 2016, 11:49:23 AM
#82
Could we not set a 3rd party site that would run for us bitcoiners that would allow us to play on Chess.com?
Have a escrow that both parties send to and lock in 1-5 games per a set amount. The program releases once games are finished. If the games do not all finish within agreed set time,the bets for unplayed get sent back.

Seems simple enough to set up,it would just be flying under the radar of Chess.com that would be the hard part.
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September 20, 2016, 11:44:04 AM
#81
It`s not going to happen because of cheat-issues. You should make this tournament in a real life
Naah,I don't think it's because of cheating,you can also cheat on a tournament,it has to do more with how the BTC will be divided between the players
If there are more people willing to play such a game,it will exist
But hey,it first has to be made,right?

It is not possible to cheat in a real life tournament as there are judges watching. Many people in real life don't know about BTC so there isn't any chess tournament with BTC prizes. Playing online can be abused by using bots which will defeat the purpose of the tournament as everyone will simply use bots to play with one another.

As much as I would want that to be the case, I'm afraid, it is only a matter of time when somebody tries to use (or has already tried) some transmitting device (like Google glass or an eye implant of sorts) to get an advantage by stealthily using a bot in a chess tournament. Not so long ago an elite female cyclist got caught cheating by using a bike with an electric motor hidden in the bottom bracket and connected to an electric battery inside the seat tube.

What`s the problem to find people who use BTC and make tournament among them? You can make fair games only when you can see your opponent`s "eyes". End of story
P.S. Chess isn`t about money at all.
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September 20, 2016, 10:20:17 AM
#80
As much as I would want that to be the case, I'm afraid, it is only a matter of time when somebody tries to use (or has already tried) some transmitting device (like Google glass or an eye implant of sorts)

Back in about 2003 I played in a Chess tournament (live in person) and the top prize was £500; a huge amount of money for me at the time.  I was determined to win this prize at any cost but I wasn't really any good at chess. However that was minor issue for me as I had a plan.

At the time phones with a vibration alert were pretty new, so I just stuffed one up inside my ass and my friend sitting in the crowd was playing out the games on a little chess computer (many other spectators were doing similar).  Then he'd get the recommended move and keep phoning me and hanging up.   Obviously I couldn't answer the phone (since it was up my ass and probably smelled a bit funny too)... but we'd both been in the boy scouts and knew Morse Code and he was sending me the messages using that  Cool

Easiest £500 I ever made.
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September 20, 2016, 10:00:28 AM
#79
There is no chess game, that use Bitcoin, because everyone can play chess free of charge with chess software. And more popular is Dice playing with Bitcoins. Chess is also very ancient game, when computers were not avalable.  Wink
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September 20, 2016, 08:42:51 AM
#78
I think there is a way to easily detect bot or any involvement of third party app in the game by observing the behaviour and the timing of it's next move. Just like on other online games. I hoped someone will develop this kind of game with a good security. Take note that the involvement of btc is just for adding excitement on the game.    Angry
sr. member
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September 20, 2016, 08:22:23 AM
#77
i never tried it, but there's a coin based on pvp chess, you should give it a try.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pre-anndiscussion-chess-20-1549631
if you want to make some money playing chess, this coin is listed at yobit so you could sell your winnings.

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September 20, 2016, 08:04:20 AM
#76
It`s not going to happen because of cheat-issues. You should make this tournament in a real life
Naah,I don't think it's because of cheating,you can also cheat on a tournament,it has to do more with how the BTC will be divided between the players
If there are more people willing to play such a game,it will exist
But hey,it first has to be made,right?

It is not possible to cheat in a real life tournament as there are judges watching. Many people in real life don't know about BTC so there isn't any chess tournament with BTC prizes. Playing online can be abused by using bots which will defeat the purpose of the tournament as everyone will simply use bots to play with one another.

As much as I would want that to be the case, I'm afraid, it is only a matter of time when somebody tries to use (or has already tried) a transmitting device (like Google glass or an eye implant of sorts) to get an advantage by stealthily using a bot in a chess tournament. Not so long ago an elite female cyclist got caught cheating by using a bike with an electric motor hidden in the bottom bracket and connected to an electric battery inside the seat tube.
legendary
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September 20, 2016, 07:50:55 AM
#75
It`s not going to happen because of cheat-issues. You should make this tournament in a real life
Naah,I don't think it's because of cheating,you can also cheat on a tournament,it has to do more with how the BTC will be divided between the players
If there are more people willing to play such a game,it will exist
But hey,it first has to be made,right?

It is not possible to cheat in a real life tournament as there are judges watching. Many people in real life don't know about BTC so there isn't any chess tournament with BTC prizes. Playing online can be abused by using bots which will defeat the purpose of the tournament as everyone will simply use bots to play with one another.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
September 20, 2016, 07:43:06 AM
#74
It`s not going to happen because of cheat-issues. You should make this tournament in a real life
Naah,I don't think it's because of cheating,you can also cheat on a tournament,it has to do more with how the BTC will be divided between the players
If there are more people willing to play such a game,it will exist
But hey,it first has to be made,right?
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September 20, 2016, 07:25:05 AM
#73
It`s not going to happen because of cheat-issues. You should make this tournament in a real life
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September 20, 2016, 02:27:28 AM
#72
I played online chess a lot before, but I didn't have a clue about existence of this little cheats. How to win easily in chess, well thanks a lot for this nice advices. Now I understand why its hard to make some gambling out of this game. Its very easy to make a scam without any special program, just some good pro chess and that's it.
Maybe with timer there is a chance to solve this problem, who can watch game and in program if there is just couple seconds for that? Maybe we can make some tournament here, with fast timer, so there will be no possibilities for this kind of scams?

People will always find a way to cheat even if we played a 30 seconds game, I’m pretty sure that with enough time I could create a bot that will take the moves in the screen and then input those moves on the chess program and then do the opposite. So in my opinion there is no way around the problem with the cheaters.

Technically, you wouldn't even need to read moves off the screen, you could just analyze the incoming http traffic. On the flipping side, the problem with cheating could still be handled by analyzing the moves of the opponents. As I understand it, the same algorithm would make the same moves given the same position, so it can be guesstimated if one or both players are using bots. Unless the bots apply some fuzzy logic or self-training neural network when searching for the best move, of course.
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September 19, 2016, 09:03:24 PM
#71
I played online chess a lot before, but I didn't have a clue about existence of this little cheats. How to win easily in chess, well thanks a lot for this nice advices. Now I understand why its hard to make some gambling out of this game. Its very easy to make a scam without any special program, just some good pro chess and that's it.
Maybe with timer there is a chance to solve this problem, who can watch game and in program if there is just couple seconds for that? Maybe we can make some tournament here, with fast timer, so there will be no possibilities for this kind of scams?

People will always find a way to cheat even if we played a 30 seconds game, I’m pretty sure that with enough time I could create a bot that will take the moves in the screen and then input those moves on the chess program and then do the opposite. So in my opinion there is no way around the problem with the cheaters.
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