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Anything can happen but all the decisions will be coming from the casino owners because most of the casino owners will think ahead before adding a certain sports
to their platform.

Casino owners will likely to add chess in their gambling platform if they can see that they can profit from that game but if they can see that the chances to profit
from that game is very slim then they will not put too much effort in adding that game to their platform. But who knows, if one casino will try to add it and it
will become popular then other casinos will surely to follow.

I don't see it happen that a casino add chess. With chess it's way too easy to cheat with third party software like chess engines. To prevent that the casinos should use algorithms to detect frauds like chess.com already does.

I think the fact that computers are so good at the game is without a doubt damaging chess and its popularity among the public, however it could be possible for casinos to add blitz games after all it is going to be very difficult for a person to try to play a blitz game and try to cheat at the same time with a chess engine, they will simply run out of time if they tried to do that unless they find a way to automate this which now that I think about it it could be possible for the person with the right knowledge.

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Its probably because modern games are much exciting because you get to see cool avatars, weapon, items. And its very flashy with the animations and effects. It really takes away your mind from reality. Perhaps, more people are switching to online simulation games than old games, i guess chess also needs to somehow improve like pawn's having form of knights which engage more people to play it virtually.

Yeah they need to do that like for example the snake games on old Nokia phones. they revive it with much different updates and cool stuffs they also changed the name but most of the atmosphere was there and the rules still the same never get hit to anything or you die.

I think what you mean by improving the chess game into modern era of gaming is already happened base on this image but I haven't heard of this one till now. It has been there but has a lot of rooms to improve.

Well I guess most chess players like myself just prefer a standard game then such fancy one ;-)

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The market for chess is growing rapidly, maybe because of the corona lockdown and people have more spare time. The grandmaster playing chess on twich gained a lot of viewers. I think a lot of the viewers who enjoy watching chess would also like to play themselfs. BlitzChess is a good way to get into chess, it's Elo based and the games only take a few minutes. Betting on these games would be awesome. There is a huge market with a lot of potential.

Yes, pandemic could be the reason for the rise of chess tournaments and live streaming. However, there are instances that promotion do over a period of time. Promotion is like a domino effect where it takes time to get known and it is not an like an instant.

Anyway, whats best is that chess grow day by day and this will likely get into another level where betting could be rampant and good players will show from around the world just like the NBA and Football league.

It's fun to watch the grandmasters tournaments now. They must all have webcams on them, I thought at least 3 so they are sure they can't cheat.

And now we can all see them during the games. They also broadcasting some commentators so it's fun to watch it.

webcam is requirement to stream but if you mean cam to monitor players , that wont be needed if its a tourna because there will be spectators and judges sorround the player and there were also online viewers , cheating of whatever form can be caught out easily .

theres still a growth in the chess games but it would be nice if chess betting sites also grow so that chess fans will be satisfied and wouldnt ask for more .

They also have a Webcam on their monitor. The grandmasters are all playing from home, that's why. The prize funds of those online tournaments is $100K or higher so it their must be some check that everyone is playing correctly.

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Quote from: Sadlife on August 12, 2020, 08:49:22 AM

Its probably because modern games are much exciting because you get to see cool avatars, weapon, items. And its very flashy with the animations and effects. It really takes away your mind from reality. Perhaps, more people are switching to online simulation games than old games, i guess chess also needs to somehow improve like pawn's having form of knights which engage more people to play it virtually.

Yeah they need to do that like for example the snake games on old Nokia phones. they revive it with much different updates and cool stuffs they also changed the name but most of the atmosphere was there and the rules still the same never get hit to anything or you die.

I think what you mean by improving the chess game into modern era of gaming is already happened base on this image but I haven't heard of this one till now. It has been there but has a lot of rooms to improve.

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Its probably because modern games are much exciting because you get to see cool avatars, weapon, items. And its very flashy with the animations and effects. It really takes away your mind from reality. Perhaps, more people are switching to online simulation games than old games, i guess chess also needs to somehow improve like pawn's having form of knights which engage more people to play it virtually.

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Quote from: dre1982 on August 11, 2020, 11:20:16 AM

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Quote from: Mauser on August 10, 2020, 04:23:06 AM

The market for chess is growing rapidly, maybe because of the corona lockdown and people have more spare time. The grandmaster playing chess on twich gained a lot of viewers. I think a lot of the viewers who enjoy watching chess would also like to play themselfs. BlitzChess is a good way to get into chess, it's Elo based and the games only take a few minutes. Betting on these games would be awesome. There is a huge market with a lot of potential.

Yes, pandemic could be the reason for the rise of chess tournaments and live streaming. However, there are instances that promotion do over a period of time. Promotion is like a domino effect where it takes time to get known and it is not an like an instant.

Anyway, whats best is that chess grow day by day and this will likely get into another level where betting could be rampant and good players will show from around the world just like the NBA and Football league.

It's fun to watch the grandmasters tournaments now. They must all have webcams on them, I thought at least 3 so they are sure they can't cheat.

And now we can all see them during the games. They also broadcasting some commentators so it's fun to watch it.

webcam is requirement to stream but if you mean cam to monitor players , that wont be needed if its a tourna because there will be spectators and judges sorround the player and there were also online viewers , cheating of whatever form can be caught out easily .

theres still a growth in the chess games but it would be nice if chess betting sites also grow so that chess fans will be satisfied and wouldnt ask for more .

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Quote from: dre1982 on August 11, 2020, 11:20:16 AM

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Quote from: Mauser on August 10, 2020, 04:23:06 AM

The market for chess is growing rapidly, maybe because of the corona lockdown and people have more spare time. The grandmaster playing chess on twich gained a lot of viewers. I think a lot of the viewers who enjoy watching chess would also like to play themselfs. BlitzChess is a good way to get into chess, it's Elo based and the games only take a few minutes. Betting on these games would be awesome. There is a huge market with a lot of potential.

Yes, pandemic could be the reason for the rise of chess tournaments and live streaming. However, there are instances that promotion do over a period of time. Promotion is like a domino effect where it takes time to get known and it is not an like an instant.

Anyway, whats best is that chess grow day by day and this will likely get into another level where betting could be rampant and good players will show from around the world just like the NBA and Football league.

It's fun to watch the grandmasters tournaments now. They must all have webcams on them, I thought at least 3 so they are sure they can't cheat.

And now we can all see them during the games. They also broadcasting some commentators so it's fun to watch it.

It’s how things have changed during this pandemic time where all the alternate solutions are being done in order to resume the games back and to follow the social distancing norm. Though not much following this chess tournament but yes, it is good to see it is back so that followers can enjoy this sport and if interested then can bet as well.

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Quote from: dre1982 on August 07, 2020, 02:59:46 PM

My tactic for blitz is just build up a big attack at the kings side and go full for the attack. Attacking is way more easy then defending well. So in blitz you better stand at the attacking side ;-)

If you analyze such games you see that you blunder a lot but your opponent didn't got the time to fund the correct answer.

That's a good tactic when in blitz game the strategy is to make your opponent think you have a better plan so he will waste a lot of time , a friend once employed this to me but he failed because I immediately simplify the game to make it an end game and this is where I gained advantages by having a good pawn structure and king position.

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Quote from: erikoy on August 10, 2020, 06:05:00 AM

Quote from: Mauser on August 10, 2020, 04:23:06 AM

The market for chess is growing rapidly, maybe because of the corona lockdown and people have more spare time. The grandmaster playing chess on twich gained a lot of viewers. I think a lot of the viewers who enjoy watching chess would also like to play themselfs. BlitzChess is a good way to get into chess, it's Elo based and the games only take a few minutes. Betting on these games would be awesome. There is a huge market with a lot of potential.

Yes, pandemic could be the reason for the rise of chess tournaments and live streaming. However, there are instances that promotion do over a period of time. Promotion is like a domino effect where it takes time to get known and it is not an like an instant.

Anyway, whats best is that chess grow day by day and this will likely get into another level where betting could be rampant and good players will show from around the world just like the NBA and Football league.

It's fun to watch the grandmasters tournaments now. They must all have webcams on them, I thought at least 3 so they are sure they can't cheat.

And now we can all see them during the games. They also broadcasting some commentators so it's fun to watch it.

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Quote from: erikoy on August 10, 2020, 06:05:00 AM

Quote from: Mauser on August 10, 2020, 04:23:06 AM

The market for chess is growing rapidly, maybe because of the corona lockdown and people have more spare time. The grandmaster playing chess on twich gained a lot of viewers. I think a lot of the viewers who enjoy watching chess would also like to play themselfs. BlitzChess is a good way to get into chess, it's Elo based and the games only take a few minutes. Betting on these games would be awesome. There is a huge market with a lot of potential.

Yes, pandemic could be the reason for the rise of chess tournaments and live streaming. However, there are instances that promotion do over a period of time. Promotion is like a domino effect where it takes time to get known and it is not an like an instant.

Anyway, whats best is that chess grow day by day and this will likely get into another level where betting could be rampant and good players will show from around the world just like the NBA and Football league.

If interest hits up then expect that it will be like that, there are many players around the world who love this sport, if the promotions hits them then expect that they will bring some money inside this kind of betting.

We don't know how long it will take but probably the chance is good to bring more gamblers inside this game.

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Quote from: Mauser on August 10, 2020, 04:23:06 AM

The market for chess is growing rapidly, maybe because of the corona lockdown and people have more spare time. The grandmaster playing chess on twich gained a lot of viewers. I think a lot of the viewers who enjoy watching chess would also like to play themselfs. BlitzChess is a good way to get into chess, it's Elo based and the games only take a few minutes. Betting on these games would be awesome. There is a huge market with a lot of potential.

Yes, pandemic could be the reason for the rise of chess tournaments and live streaming. However, there are instances that promotion do over a period of time. Promotion is like a domino effect where it takes time to get known and it is not an like an instant.

Anyway, whats best is that chess grow day by day and this will likely get into another level where betting could be rampant and good players will show from around the world just like the NBA and Football league.

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Quote from: Insanerman on August 09, 2020, 09:21:23 AM

I agree, it's a good idea to associate chess on online casinos. Even though it looks like there is only small market for this game, it could still gain much bigger market as it gain more time being in the casinos available to play. They could also use add chess on betting games.
We'll I think it's not bad for casinos to try it. Undecided

The market for chess is growing rapidly, maybe because of the corona lockdown and people have more spare time. The grandmaster playing chess on twich gained a lot of viewers. I think a lot of the viewers who enjoy watching chess would also like to play themselfs. BlitzChess is a good way to get into chess, it's Elo based and the games only take a few minutes. Betting on these games would be awesome. There is a huge market with a lot of potential.

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Quote from: Insanerman on August 09, 2020, 09:21:23 AM

I agree, it's a good idea to associate chess on online casinos. Even though it looks like there is only small market for this game, it could still gain much bigger market as it gain more time being in the casinos available to play. They could also use add chess on betting games.
We'll I think it's not bad for casinos to try it. Undecided

Or perhaps, another way to incorporate this game to online gambling casinos is to let players play a game with bets. So they need to agree to a bet then compete with each others. Of course there should still be ratings and elo for this, so matches will be unpredictable and exciting. Plus, this games should be live so others could place their bet to whoever they want to.

That is just my thoughts because most of the time, we are just waiting to bet for pro players, and what if we play too.

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Quote from: lebregone on August 09, 2020, 12:51:47 AM

Anything can happen but all the decisions will be coming from the casino owners because most of the casino owners will think ahead before adding a certain sports
to their platform.

Casino owners will likely to add chess in their gambling platform if they can see that they can profit from that game but if they can see that the chances to profit
from that game is very slim then they will not put too much effort in adding that game to their platform. But who knows, if one casino will try to add it and it
will become popular then other casinos will surely to follow.

if they can also add tournament adding that games it will also help to attract more chess games to use their platform to play.

The demand is not enough I think that's why there are no plan for gambling casino to add it it is important in any gambling casino to have potential users since the chance of have many players is thin I don't see they will make as one of their priority

I agree, it's a good idea to associate chess on online casinos. Even though it looks like there is only small market for this game, it could still gain much bigger market as it gain more time being in the casinos available to play. They could also use add chess on betting games.
We'll I think it's not bad for casinos to try it. Undecided

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Quote from: lebregone on August 09, 2020, 12:51:47 AM

Anything can happen but all the decisions will be coming from the casino owners because most of the casino owners will think ahead before adding a certain sports
to their platform.

Casino owners will likely to add chess in their gambling platform if they can see that they can profit from that game but if they can see that the chances to profit
from that game is very slim then they will not put too much effort in adding that game to their platform. But who knows, if one casino will try to add it and it
will become popular then other casinos will surely to follow.

if they can also add tournament adding that games it will also help to attract more chess games to use their platform to play.

The demand is not enough I think that's why there are no plan for gambling casino to add it. it is important in any gambling casino to have potential users since the chance of have many players is thin and i don't see if they will make that one as one of their priority

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Quote from: lebregone on August 09, 2020, 12:51:47 AM

Anything can happen but all the decisions will be coming from the casino owners because most of the casino owners will think ahead before adding a certain sports
to their platform.

Casino owners will likely to add chess in their gambling platform if they can see that they can profit from that game but if they can see that the chances to profit
from that game is very slim then they will not put too much effort in adding that game to their platform. But who knows, if one casino will try to add it and it
will become popular then other casinos will surely to follow.

I don't see it happen that a casino add chess. With chess it's way too easy to cheat with third party software like chess engines. To prevent that the casinos should use algorithms to detect frauds like chess.com already does.

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Anything can happen but all the decisions will be coming from the casino owners because most of the casino owners will think ahead before adding a certain sports
to their platform.

Casino owners will likely to add chess in their gambling platform if they can see that they can profit from that game but if they can see that the chances to profit
from that game is very slim then they will not put too much effort in adding that game to their platform. But who knows, if one casino will try to add it and it
will become popular then other casinos will surely to follow.

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Quote from: dre1982 on August 07, 2020, 02:59:46 PM

My tactic for blitz is just build up a big attack at the kings side and go full for the attack. Attacking is way more easy then defending well. So in blitz you better stand at the attacking side ;-)

I often using the same tactic, but my weak spot is that many times i can't defend myself and see enemies moves because i'm busy of making my plan. So sometimes i get very unpleasant check mates Undecided

But it's weird, that for example i'm playing a little worse (because of the weak spot described above) than a friend of mine, but faster. There was too many matches when i've won because he was out of time

I try to play against the system and winning will be very low. I do this to learn something out of it. As the system is developed with specific moves to be done based on the moves from the opponent it'll give better playing skills. Same as that of the live Casino available with few gambling sites, live Chess might attract good number of gamblers as chess is more of a skill based game than the luck.

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Quote from: dre1982 on August 07, 2020, 02:59:46 PM

My tactic for blitz is just build up a big attack at the kings side and go full for the attack. Attacking is way more easy then defending well. So in blitz you better stand at the attacking side ;-)

I often using the same tactic, but my weak spot is that many times i can't defend myself and see enemies moves because i'm busy of making my plan. So sometimes i get very unpleasant check mates Undecided

But it's weird, that for example i'm playing a little worse (because of the weak spot described above) than a friend of mine, but faster. There was too many matches when i've won because he was out of time

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Agreed, in a standard match while there can always be a surprise the player that is on average better ranked should win more often than not, but in a blitz game this is not the case anymore as players keep the game confusing on purpose to try to catch their opponents off guard, so while in a regular game a player may choose to simplify the position in a blitz game they know their best chance is to keep the game open to all kind of possibilities so the chances your opponent makes a mistake go higher and you can score a win.

True, even a strong opponent can be defeated on a blitz game since the game is a fast phase and we should think quickly. A blitz game is a battle of correct placements, and you shouldn't move any single blunder because if your move is considered as a blunder then the chance of you losing is very high.

That's why I think blitz is very suitable on any tournament that should have bettings.

One of the most important rules in a blitz game is that in a chess match if you touch a piece and you have at least a legal move that you can make with it then you are forced to make that move, this is really important because you can actually see people going for the piece and then having second thoughts midway but they are unable to stop as they can see that will be a bad move but due to inertia they touch the piece and now they are forced to move the piece and lose the game because of it, which is why what I stated above about keeping the game complex is really important in that kind of match.

Well that rules is for any type of chess, also for the long games.

The strangest thing is that you can watch 15 min for a move and when you touch that piece you see in a split second that's a blunder it something like that.

True but that kind of blunder is way more common in a blitz game because you have way less time to think about your movements and for the most part you are acting on reflex, so if your opponent was cunning enough to set up a trap in a position that seems to be harmless then it is way more likely that you are going to fall into that trap, while in a normal game you can decide to take all the time in the world to analyze a position that is complex especially if you think this movement is critical, something that is impossible to do in a blitz game.

Blitz game will definitely silence the game as people are focus on the fast-phase game and requires fast thinking to avoid blunder. If you're mind is on the bad mood, definitely you will lose the game. It requires a lot of mental training for you to be a blitz game master. Traps and decoy are usually common on this type of chess, you will definitely fall without even noticing until the end of the game.

So I guess that this type of chess game will mostly be liked by some of the bettors for its fast-phased feature.

My tactic for blitz is just build up a big attack at the kings side and go full for the attack. Attacking is way more easy then defending well. So in blitz you better stand at the attacking side ;-)

If you analyze such games you see that you blunder a lot but your opponent didn't got the time to fund the correct answer.

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