Topic: Claw Machines: a category of gambling? - page 5. (Read 1247 times)

Yes, they make you think that whether you win or no depends on your actions, while you can perfectly catch the prize with the claws and then it drops off for no reason. You have the same feeling with slots when you four scatters to get the bonus round and you already have three and there are a lot of rolling reels and you expect to see another scatter on one of them but end up empty handed. It's a typical gambling thing those Claw Machines are.

I would call claw machine a very light version of gambling. Because it might cause interest, but not addiction. Never heard that someone is addicted to claw machines. It is easy to stop. And when you get that prize, you stop gambling and it does not motivate you to continue. Greed factor is very little in this case.

I see that South Park has mentioned it can develop addiction among kids, but from what I saw, kids stop when they get a plushie prize. After getting a toy, I have never seen them asking for more or other. They focus on one specific, you get it for them and you are a hero for the rest of the day.

This is mostly a skill game rather than gambling.You know everything you need to know here and there are no hidden surprises like a changed RTP so much common nowadays in absolutely every reputable casino and new ones.In here if you are skillful enough or better smart enough to learn the patterns of how those prizes move by trying a few times it can make you skillful enough to get the paper money or the best electronic gadget these machines offer.

I think of it a bit as of fair games. Everything is kinda set up for the player to lose but still being a bit close to winning.

Very similar to gambling. But in my mind there is the difference that the outcome is not generated at random. There is some level of skill involved.

Well, you have a point, since there is a money involve by doing this, It is advisable to all parents out there to watch their children playing this, maybe for other people they will not consider it as a gambling because it is placed in public arcade places where the first thing people will think is that it is just a normal game.Maybe it depends on us how we will think about the claw machine, whether it is a type of gambing or is it just a normal game? no matter what it is, there's only one thing that's important here, let's be a responsible players. If we feel that the machine is cheating us because it's rare to get stuff in it, we should think about whether the time and money we spent for the prize we can get is worth it? others don't look at what they can get because they are focused on the thought that they got a prize using the claw machine, they are challenged because many people try to play it but they don't get anything until they run out of tokens.

For me claw machines require little skill to play, as everything depends from how owner set claw strength. User can simply randomly move controller and randomly choose item. If claw closing strength is enough, it will hold the prize like close grip. But in most cases we see how claw shakes and drops the prize the next second claw was closed. However that is ok. Low skill requirement is perfect for everyone to try to win the prize.

These machines are not random. That's a crucial difference to a slot machine.

On a slot machine you simply press a button and the outcome is defined by chance.

In these machines you have way more control over the outcome. You can maneuver the grip in both directions, and choose when to send it to grab stuff. There's a lot of skill to this. Of course it's difficult to win, but the outcome is not random.

Huge difference, even legal in some places as in, anyone can put these machines but you would need a license for the slot machines.

Without a doubt this is a form of gambling, it is just that it has become so common place that people no longer think about those machines on that way, however those machines fulfill all the conditions you may expect out of a slot machine, so it is important that parents keep a close attention to their kids and make sure they do not spend too much time on those machines, otherwise they may find themselves facing the terrible problem of having their child developing some gambling issues at a very early age.

I am a fool to be honest and tried those tricks as if I am going to win all of those stuff toys that are inside the claw machine. Don't laugh at me as I did really tried it but nothing happened and I have wasted some money on it. So, that's actually a gamble that like someone gives a prediction or signal that everyone must follow but in the end of it, you get nothing and you'll just hear a "nice try" from those folks that have advertised it as is.

Yeah, hire a sexy tiktoker and you'll give her the incentive with some talent fee and also gifts from those claw machine. You only have to show the name of the arcade or establishment and you're good to go. This is very normal as many people are gullible in the internet and that includes me if it's with the matters of these toys since I want to have as much as I can and wanting to give my kid with those toys and also my kid relatives. Anyway, it's sure a lucrative business and that's why just as gambling, there are many people that goes there everyday trying their luck which is significant to gambling.

It really depends on how an individual will view the claw machine. It can be viewed as gambling since you are risking your money. If money is involved and players are playing for the prize, especially if they are spending a lot, then it can be interpreted as gambling since some of the claw machines are influenced by chance. Another thing we can consider is that if the grip of the claw in the machine is randomized every time you try, it can be considered gambling since there are chances involved. On the other hand, it cannot be considered gambling since players are using a joystick or a controller to control the claw. With that, players are using their skill to get the prize rather than luck or chance, which are the key factors of gambling like slots and lottery. 

Gambling or not, the more important thing is that the player is having fun!

I think that promoters know perfectly well how to advertise a claw machine, and that's why there are so many videos with "secrets of success" in TikTok and similar video services where pretty girls easily pull out toys. I don't believe any of these videos and consider them promotional.

Judge for yourself: if you were the owner of a many o claw machines, would you not have made such promotional videos? after all, their cost is scanty: a hired girl and a tik tok.

I think it's another part of gambling, but the game is different and most of the people who play on claw machines like that are quite young, although there are some older people who also play.

It is gaming in nature and perhaps in the long run it has the potential to reach a much bigger stage, because when people bring their families to such places they can play while enjoying the challenge.
After all, when we visit certain places we will also spend money and maybe it will become a place for children to play.

This type of game is available in several places such as shopping centers and places where money games are made, what I see is that there are many games of this kind that are starting to be made for the benefit of young people. I don't think you need skill to play this game because it still relies on luck.

We do have our own impressions on things but we do know that when it comes to these claw machines then it would really be just that not that wrong on telling that these are gambling but actually
this is really just that for fun. You would really make yourself paying up for some fee or bet or whatever to get that stuff toys or whatsoever prize inside that machine. Risks is there but
when it comes to overall idea on how these machines been created in the first place then it is really just that for fun. There are really just that people who are really that having those kind of
insights that it is really just that like betting. This is why it would really just that a matter of approach which it isnt really that wrong after all.

Maybe is something more or less to a raffle draw whereby you win base on what your luck gives, it could actually be another form of having entertainment in satisfying their customers through engaging them into playing any of these games, but i don't want to see it as gambling since you're not using your personal money with the intention of winning or losing the bet you place, they are not gambling at all, but it may appear so to some as some of these shopping malls make use of such during their promo offers to their customers.

to be honest, I never once played it in physical mode.  but at least a few times in online mode, even in ordinary games that are not related to betting. referring to your question, I actually can't answer for sure. however, based on my assumptions, this type of claw machine game can be classified as gambling. yeah, like you said. someone who wants to play it, has to dig into their pockets before they can start running the claw machine. It's just that there are differences with real betting or gambling, whether fictional or online based.
As far as I know, claw machines don't have to spend a large bankroll like we make deposits on our favorite casino sites. The claw machine has been set up in such a way, without having to involve large funds. I mean, just one penny we can use this machine. although, sometimes someone can do it repeatedly in order to get the available prizes. of course, we are very familiar with this claw machine, starting from dolls and currently innovating with the various prizes provided. yeah, at least in my country the prizes were initially dolls. but now, there is a variety offered by this type of claw machine. In essence, if money is involved, it is already classified as betting mode. although, there are differences with real gambling. Well, if I observe, there are many who try to do various tricks to get the prizes available. Sometimes, there are those who succeed even though they have done it repeatedly. but I can't comment too far, because I've never really played it. Whether using skills will work, I don't have the answer. I think luck also plays an important role when we play it.

Hmm this is an interesting take- some might argue that it can be gambling; while others may view this as a source of entertainment. Personally, I view it as a form of gambling due to the nature and the risks involved.

In a claw machine, a person would need a coin in order to gain an attempt of getting the prize through the "claw" when you successfully snatched the item. Some may say that there has no skills involved in this game but again, slot machines are purely by luck.

The element of money is involved since you have to spend in order to gain an attempt. The element of prize is also involved since the "prize" is the toy or the item inside the machine. Lastly, the element of luck is present since there are times where the position of the items play a crucial factor on whether you could be successful or not.

In conclusion, claw machines are a form of gambling though not as aggressive compared to others due to the prize that a person may win.

So is it wrong for some people to consider this claw machine as gambling when there are people who never get anything after playing it several times? I don't think there is anything wrong with this kind of opinion by some people because in gambling there is also such a thing as luck, even though not all ages are allowed to gamble because they remember the risks that must be understood. But it seems like this claw machine can be considered as anything because it wouldn't be wrong if someone thought of it as entertainment or gambling.

I wouldn't say I haven't learnt one or two from this and it's quite interesting that we could disagree to agree with proven details to back up the arguments. So it's all a Matter of jurisdiction about the claw machine. But then;

About the meaning of gambling, in a broad sense I think my second definition covers it all in all aspect of the sense of the word "gambling". And I  can say @Stepstowealth  has saved me a lot of explaining just with the way he has couched it with added example of real life issues, which goes to show that gambling or gambling doesn't have to mean just about getting cash as profit or reward but as a phenomenon it goes beyond just cash for a price.

This type of game is just a casual game but does not bring a huge return of rewards, imagine you spend a lot of money just to get the particular reward you want this just bring fun and thrill but if you tried to compute the number of expenses to the actual price is doesn't worth it at all, this brings different effect the player because they keep a hard work to get the reward on the machine so that's the thing but unlike in slot games there's a potential chance of winning you earned back your losses plus having a profit.

And with that, maybe we can compare them to slot machines as well that can be set up with RTP so that it will be difficult for players to win same with claw machine and so it could be define as gambling already.

Maybe are hook in this game, specially young kids who is motivated to win big prices. But their young mind can't comprehend that the machine is rigged in the first place and the only way to win is by extreme luck that you get in at the right spot and bring it back to fall.