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Topic: Claymore's ZCash/BTG AMD GPU Miner v12.6 (Windows/Linux) - page 357. (Read 3839163 times)

sr. member
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Fighting mob law and inquisition in this forum
This applies for proper SSL/TLS offloading - yes if not properly set on the pool it can cause heavy load and traffic.
sr. member
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SSL was implemented long time ago for mining already but was removed again due to the increased network lag.

Lags can only create a pool if it spends a lot of time to encrypt/decrypt data, am I correct?
SSL connection is based on same sockets and it takes almost zero time on client side to encrypt/decrypt 1Kb of data.
I'm curious about server load, is it too expensive to use encrypted connections for you?

I use the Celeron 1620 for my miners, will that CPU not good enough to do the encryption? I am little concerned.

you wouldn't notice any cpu load even if you were encrypting tens of megabits/s, not even talking about few kilobits/s needed for mining
donator
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Miners developer
Everything is better with bluetooth encryption!
legendary
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Hi all! So why do we need to use encryption ? Ane benefit from it ?
no one will be able to steal your shares as simple as that
full member
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Hi all! So why do we need to use encryption ? Ane benefit from it ?
sr. member
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SSL was implemented long time ago for mining already but was removed again due to the increased network lag.

Lags can only create a pool if it spends a lot of time to encrypt/decrypt data, am I correct?
SSL connection is based on same sockets and it takes almost zero time on client side to encrypt/decrypt 1Kb of data.
I'm curious about server load, is it too expensive to use encrypted connections for you?

I use the Celeron 1620 for my miners, will that CPU not good enough to do the encryption? I am little concerned.
member
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Lets not forget that miner is actually a plain money printing machine. And to whine about paying for that is kinda weird.
donator
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Miners developer
SSL was implemented long time ago for mining already but was removed again due to the increased network lag.

Lags can only create a pool if it spends a lot of time to encrypt/decrypt data, am I correct?
SSL connection is based on same sockets and it takes almost zero time on client side to encrypt/decrypt 1Kb of data.
I'm curious about server load, is it too expensive to use encrypted connections for you?
donator
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Miners developer
This is the "carrot or stick" approach.
The 0.5% is the carrot for the masses to enter the SSL prison.
When the majority of the miners (sheeps) voluntarily enter the prison, the plain connection will be removed (stick), and escape will be impossible.
Then it will be easy to increase the fees at will.
Same story again.

Nice of you to compare people with sheep.
I'm not going to remove plain connection, so you still can try to remove 2% devfee and become rich.
I never increase devfee, only reduce.

Anyone noticed the post of the guy who circumvented the devfee with his tamper is gone.
Good news for Claymore and all the honest miners here.

Yes, thank you all for support, also thanks to mods that care about removing cracks from their forums.
I have enough experience in these games. These "hackers" think that all their cracks work.
Readme explains things about cheating clearly.
Of course it's possible to cheat and not to turn protection on, but it's rather difficult to see whether it's working, it's just a few %. So in most cases using cracks is similar to using "-nofee" option.
legendary
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@Claymore

Rig 6xR9 390 1150/1500

v.1.0 - v.8.0 - 0 crashes for all the time.

v.9.0/9.1 – crashes each 10-15 min, various GPUs. (any -i value)

Something is wrong with this version.
Rollback on v.8 returns stability.

Again and again.
Problems can be:
1. PSU  wattage load
2. PSU ripple suppression
3. PSU voltage regulation at different load variations
4. Bad risers and other cables. (Least likely if still working in other versions)
5. Incorrectly configuring windows
can you please expand 2 and 5

2. Ripple is a phenomenon that occurs with all SMPSUs (switch-mode power supply units). It is the tiny fluctuations in a power supply's output voltage, on the order of tens of milivolts, millions of times a second. It is an artifact of the process of converting a sine wave AC input to a constant DC output.

Ripple is measured as a peak-to-peak value in milivolts, and is measured using an oscilloscope (software can not detect ripple, nor can a multimeter or voltmeter; you need an oscilloscope with a scanning frequency of at least 30MHz). The ATX specification sets these limits on computer PSU ripple levels:

+12V - 120mV
+5V - 50mV
+3.3V - 50mV
+5VSB - 120mV
-12 - 120mV

Why is having good ripple suppression important? The first reason is hardware lifespan. Ripple wears on several types of electrical component, the most relevant being electrolytic capacitors. The closer ripple levels are to a capacitor's rated ripple, the shorter its lifetime will be, and ripple exceeding its rated level can cause it to blow or perform poorly. Since electrolytic capacitors are found in your power supply, motherboard, graphics card, and many other components, having a power supply with good ripple suppression is a must for long-term reliability.

Another problem poor ripple levels can cause is one that will surely strike fear into the heart of every overclocking enthusiast. Higher ripple levels means lower overclock.

5. A lot off factors. You must check power settings first, turn off PCI-E power control.
that explains a lot, our hardware importer bought these for our 3x RX480 8G mining rigs http://www.zalman.com/contents/products/view.html?no=96
for last few days most rigs work without any issues, after V9 some of them had problems (maybe 3-4 out of 95) but after playing around with clocks mems voltage everything is stable now so far so good

Have coinmine.pl support lowered devfee?
I heard they are stealing shares, thinking to switch to dwarfpool
hero member
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Have coinmine.pl support lowered devfee?
legendary
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This is the "carrot or stick" approach.

The 0.5% is the carrot for the masses to enter the SSL prison.

When the majority of the miners (sheeps) voluntarily enter the prison, the plain connection will be removed (stick), and escape will be impossible.

Then it will be easy to increase the fees at will.

Same story again.
 
well every miner has the ability to elect not to pay the dev fee but apparently some miners don't want  the hash rate loss due to no fee  so they pass the cost to the rest of miners works the same in retail sales that 7 to 9 cents for the cost of items is what the merchants add to the cost so that they can help defray the cost of theft Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Guys, which MB did You test and recommend for 7gpu rigs? Beside MSI z97 gaming 5 that one is doin fine.


My Top Motherboard Picks:
- Z97 Gaming 5,  MSI Z97 Intel LGA 1150 DDR3 USB 3.0 ATX Gaming Motherboard http://a.co/7a6Sut8
- ASRock H97 Anniversary LGA 1150 Intel Motherboard (usually sold out): http://[Suspicious link removed]/2cl9G48   or   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157564
- ASRock H81 PRO BTC R2.0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157724
- BIOSTAR TB85 LGA 1150 Intel B85 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Motherboards http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138436

If you want 7 Gpu use the Z97 Gaming 5 or add a PC Peripheral onto any of the other boards:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/141865200790?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Here is a video on how to install the PC Peripheral:  https://youtu.be/F7p6roA8ZCU

I have GA-Z170X gaming g1 max 5 card. Can someone help me for 7 GPU?

-OR Even Better -

See my Rig at:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gpu-mining-rig-eth-zec-6-or-7-gpu-1676763

I have GA-Z170X gaming g1 max 5 card. Can someone help me for 7 GPU?
newbie
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@Claymore

Rig 6xR9 390 1150/1500

v.1.0 - v.8.0 - 0 crashes for all the time.

v.9.0/9.1 – crashes each 10-15 min, various GPUs. (any -i value)

Something is wrong with this version.
Rollback on v.8 returns stability.

Again and again.
Problems can be:
1. PSU  wattage load
2. PSU ripple suppression
3. PSU voltage regulation at different load variations
4. Bad risers and other cables. (Least likely if still working in other versions)
5. Incorrectly configuring windows
can you please expand 2 and 5

2. Ripple is a phenomenon that occurs with all SMPSUs (switch-mode power supply units). It is the tiny fluctuations in a power supply's output voltage, on the order of tens of milivolts, millions of times a second. It is an artifact of the process of converting a sine wave AC input to a constant DC output.

Ripple is measured as a peak-to-peak value in milivolts, and is measured using an oscilloscope (software can not detect ripple, nor can a multimeter or voltmeter; you need an oscilloscope with a scanning frequency of at least 30MHz). The ATX specification sets these limits on computer PSU ripple levels:

+12V - 120mV
+5V - 50mV
+3.3V - 50mV
+5VSB - 120mV
-12 - 120mV

Why is having good ripple suppression important? The first reason is hardware lifespan. Ripple wears on several types of electrical component, the most relevant being electrolytic capacitors. The closer ripple levels are to a capacitor's rated ripple, the shorter its lifetime will be, and ripple exceeding its rated level can cause it to blow or perform poorly. Since electrolytic capacitors are found in your power supply, motherboard, graphics card, and many other components, having a power supply with good ripple suppression is a must for long-term reliability.

Another problem poor ripple levels can cause is one that will surely strike fear into the heart of every overclocking enthusiast. Higher ripple levels means lower overclock.

5. A lot off factors. You must check power settings first, turn off PCI-E power control.
sr. member
Activity: 574
Merit: 250
Fighting mob law and inquisition in this forum
Anyone noticed the post of the guy who circumvented the devfee with his tamper is gone. (I mean smod)
Good news for Claymore and all the honest miners here.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
@Claymore

Rig 6xR9 390 1150/1500

v.1.0 - v.8.0 - 0 crashes for all the time.

v.9.0/9.1 – crashes each 10-15 min, various GPUs. (any -i value)

Something is wrong with this version.
Rollback on v.8 returns stability.

Again and again.
Problems can be:
1. PSU  wattage load
2. PSU ripple suppression
3. PSU voltage regulation at different load variations
4. Bad risers and other cables. (Least likely if still working in other versions)
5. Incorrectly configuring windows
can you please expand 2 and 5
try remove one card at a time to see if it fixes the problem, i could not run 6x390s with a 1300 watt evga psu Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
dlx
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This is the "carrot or stick" approach.

The 0.5% is the carrot for the masses to enter the SSL prison.

When the majority of the miners (sheeps) voluntarily enter the prison, the plain connection will be removed (stick), and escape will be impossible.

Then it will be easy to increase the fees at will.

Same story again.
legendary
Activity: 1084
Merit: 1003
≡v≡
@Claymore

Rig 6xR9 390 1150/1500

v.1.0 - v.8.0 - 0 crashes for all the time.

v.9.0/9.1 – crashes each 10-15 min, various GPUs. (any -i value)

Something is wrong with this version.
Rollback on v.8 returns stability.

Again and again.
Problems can be:
1. PSU  wattage load
2. PSU ripple suppression
3. PSU voltage regulation at different load variations
4. Bad risers and other cables. (Least likely if still working in other versions)
5. Incorrectly configuring windows
can you please expand 2 and 5
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
Just curious, what's the reason for ssl in stratum?
Or am I way behind on something.

you can't modify ssl network packets thus can't disable devfee

not entirely true hahaha ... ssl implemented to protect devfee is 1 of the main reason !
That is the ONLY reason as SSL adds nothing to mining.
Actually it is worse as it adds lag to connection


Yup, this is true.

SSL was implemented long time ago for mining already but was removed again due to the increased network lag.

The only reason for adding it here is that people cannot circumvent the devfee anymore.
so unsecure is 2.5% versus 2.0% for secure i would guess that extra .5% is how the dev. makes up for the very honorable thieves.
legendary
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Just curious, what's the reason for ssl in stratum?
Or am I way behind on something.

you can't modify ssl network packets thus can't disable devfee

not entirely true hahaha ... ssl implemented to protect devfee is 1 of the main reason !
That is the ONLY reason as SSL adds nothing to mining.
Actually it is worse as it adds lag to connection


Yup, this is true.

SSL was implemented long time ago for mining already but was removed again due to the increased network lag.

The only reason for adding it here is that people cannot circumvent the devfee anymore.
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