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newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
September 04, 2013, 06:07:01 PM
Update: Refunds processed

All requests from the list two posts above passed verification and were paid out.


Thanks a lot for your patience and your support. I hoped for a happy end all the time, but that's how life is.

Special thanks to all of you who asked me to keep the fees or who want to donate. Although I spent enormous time and lost lots of nerves with this, I don't want compensation for this failed venture. I took some risk anticipating to win big, but this time it did not work out well Sad. Next time, maybe.


If you feel I'm doing things right and want to give some kudos to me, please consider doing this over the forum's trust system.


Good Night.


Standup guy with good customer service.  Hope to do business with again.  Thanks for everything Zefir.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
September 04, 2013, 05:39:26 PM
Update: Refunds processed

All requests from the list two posts above passed verification and were paid out.


Thanks a lot for your patience and your support. I hoped for a happy end all the time, but that's how life is.

Special thanks to all of you who asked me to keep the fees or who want to donate. Although I spent enormous time and lost lots of nerves with this, I don't want compensation for this failed venture. I took some risk anticipating to win big, but this time it did not work out well Sad. Next time, maybe.


If you feel I'm doing things right and want to give some kudos to me, please consider doing this over the forum's trust system.


Good Night.


Geezer. (UK compliment).
donator
Activity: 919
Merit: 1000
September 04, 2013, 05:34:44 PM
Update: Refunds processed

All requests from the list two posts above passed verification and were paid out.


Thanks a lot for your patience and your support. I hoped for a happy end all the time, but that's how life is.

Special thanks to all of you who asked me to keep the fees or who want to donate. Although I spent enormous time and lost lots of nerves with this, I don't want compensation for this failed venture. I took some risk anticipating to win big, but this time it did not work out well Sad. Next time, maybe.


If you feel I'm doing things right and want to give some kudos to me, please consider doing this over the forum's trust system.


Good Night.
full member
Activity: 250
Merit: 100
RockStable Token Inc
September 04, 2013, 04:51:51 PM
For those who are not cancelling, you have another option: condo ownership.

Centerus will build Avalon clone systems for housing your chips, ten in each card ("condo unit"), up to 32 cards in every box. Your chips will be controlled from your own instance of cgminer running in the box. You can connect your condo unit to your mining pool account.

The price for each condo unit has been drastically reduced to 0.9 BTC.

More details here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/condo-for-your-avalon-chips-price-drastically-reduced-189976

Place your order here:
http://centerus.com/products-page/condo/condo-unit/
donator
Activity: 919
Merit: 1000
September 04, 2013, 01:45:07 PM
Update: Refund Request Window closed, Refunds processing

Time's up, over.


Refund Queue
These are the refunds requested during the given time window, without those canceled again. List is sorted after Bitcoin address:
Code:
Chips BTC Address
----------------------------------------------------------
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Refund Processing
The requests are now to be verified against the order data on file. Verified requests will be refunded within 24h, for not matching ones I will contact you for clarification.
donator
Activity: 919
Merit: 1000
September 02, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
Clarification: Batches refunded vs. active Orders

Buyers with orders in batch 6-8, please do not freak out Smiley

Having batches 6-8 refunded does not mean that your chips from those batches were refunded and you won't get them delivered.

It just means our last 30k chips are refunded and your order will be shifted up, keeping the initial placement. Effectively, with batch 5 all outstanding orders will be served.
donator
Activity: 919
Merit: 1000
September 02, 2013, 02:24:01 PM
Update: Refund received, Refund Deadline, Refund Cancellation

Refunds received
I have received refunds for batches 6, 7, and 8.

Refund Queue
This is the current refund queue:
Code:
Chips BTC Address
----------------------------------------------------
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Refund Processing
Due to the latest updates at manufacturers side, I am going to extend the previously given deadline and make it a strict one:
Strict Deadline: Wednesday evening GMT (2013-09-04T18:00Z, epoch 1378317600)

Please take your time and make up your mind if you a) want to file a refund, or b) you want to cancel an already filed refund request.
This is a strict deadline: after it passed, I will start paying out refunds. Refund requests or cancellations sent after the deadline will be ignored.


This thread will remain locked until the deadline passed to keep the announcement visible. If something is unclear, please contact me via PM.
legendary
Activity: 1062
Merit: 1003
September 02, 2013, 11:32:13 AM
Will sell 80 chips from my Batch 3 pre-order (April 20). Please send me private message if you're interested.

He sent me a PM that he wanted BTC24 for his 80 chips ($39 a chip) Bwahahahaha

I'll give you 0.025 a chip how's that?

Just FYI Avalon chips are almost worthless.

They mustn't like you, I was offered for BTC8
Can't imagine anyone here would pay close to that and don't know why anyone here would accept less with a refund likely tho lol. Try eBay.

@Zefir, could you please provide an updated list of cancellations?  So we can make sure cancellations have been properly submitted prior to the deadline. Thx
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 500
September 02, 2013, 07:45:14 AM
Will sell 80 chips from my Batch 3 pre-order (April 20). Please send me private message if you're interested.

He sent me a PM that he wanted BTC24 for his 80 chips ($39 a chip) Bwahahahaha

I'll give you 0.025 a chip how's that?

Just FYI Avalon chips are almost worthless.

hero member
Activity: 546
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September 02, 2013, 06:50:33 AM
Burnin just said if you demand your refund right now, you will get 50%.  Otherwise, sit and wait for a better deal.
At least that's my interpretation.

I requested a refund for half my chip order, but looking how difficulty is rising, I'm now thinking I should get a refund for the rest.  Even my FPGA's are barely making electricity now.
legendary
Activity: 1062
Merit: 1003
September 02, 2013, 05:26:41 AM
I requested, but I'm not in the list. Anyhow, as there is progress in burnins assembly, is it possible to cancel the request before tuesday evening?

Thank you zefir!

I will check the list for your request when I am back from work.

As for canceling a posted request: well, I already asked for a refund based on the requests I collected, so I can't really handle such back and forth games. They are causing lots of work and a guarantee to make mistakes.

Therefore to state the obvious explicitly:
refund requests are final - once placed, they can not be canceled.

Also, many of you fail to follow the refund process I introduced here, but instead are sending me PMs or just asking for refunds without providing the required data. To have at least a chance of processing them correctly,
please file refund requests over the given process.


Thanks.


BTW, still no refunds received from Avalon.

Refund policy is fair enough given the number of orders you're dealing with but is unfortunate. Burnin has just changed his refund policy, which changes the equation slightly.
member
Activity: 80
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September 02, 2013, 04:47:21 AM
Also, many of you fail to follow the refund process I introduced here, but instead are sending me PMs or just asking for refunds without providing the required data. To have at least a chance of processing them correctly,
please file refund requests over the given process.

And in case you were wondering:

Refund Process
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3038356

Email only, follow link for details but very straightforward.

Format is:
username;chips;BTC;OriginalBitcoinAddress

Send email to the special address in the post linked above and use the address you registered on the chip distribution site for sending, otherwise you'll need to sign the refund request.  Don't forget the minus signs on the Chips & BTC fields!
donator
Activity: 919
Merit: 1000
September 02, 2013, 04:11:56 AM
I requested, but I'm not in the list. Anyhow, as there is progress in burnins assembly, is it possible to cancel the request before tuesday evening?

Thank you zefir!

I will check the list for your request when I am back from work.

As for canceling a posted request: well, I already asked for a refund based on the requests I collected, so I can't really handle such back and forth games. They are causing lots of work and a guarantee to make mistakes.

Therefore to state the obvious explicitly:
refund requests are final - once placed, they can not be canceled.

Also, many of you fail to follow the refund process I introduced here, but instead are sending me PMs or just asking for refunds without providing the required data. To have at least a chance of processing them correctly,
please file refund requests over the given process.


Thanks.


BTW, still no refunds received from Avalon.
hero member
Activity: 525
Merit: 500
..yeah
September 02, 2013, 02:51:33 AM
I requested, but I'm not in the list. Anyhow, as there is progress in burnins assembly, is it possible to cancel the request before tuesday evening?

Thank you zefir!
sr. member
Activity: 379
Merit: 250
September 02, 2013, 02:19:57 AM
@Zefir, I have asked for refund, but not in the list. Could you please check it?

It is there, you need to scroll down to see it.

Well, I see it. Thanks.
donator
Activity: 919
Merit: 1000
September 02, 2013, 01:44:54 AM
@Zefir, I have asked for refund, but not in the list. Could you please check it?

It is there, you need to scroll down to see it.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
September 01, 2013, 11:38:13 PM
Will sell 80 chips from my Batch 3 pre-order (April 20). Please send me private message if you're interested.
sr. member
Activity: 379
Merit: 250
September 01, 2013, 09:18:33 PM
@Zefir, I have asked for refund, but not in the list. Could you please check it?
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RockStable Token Inc
September 01, 2013, 03:28:41 PM
Zefir, I'm happy to see something proactive occurring from the Bitsyncom camp, but please for you sake I think you need to re-consider the following;

1). Refunding from your own pocket right now. As much as I dare say Bitsyncom see the need to quell the discontent here, they are flakey at best, so if I were you I'd hold out on the notion you'll 100% receive your refund in the short term. Just for your sake to be safe.

2). There is a huge amount of chips, 135 boxes that were delivered in June to Bitsyncom, as described on the customs info using the tracking number. These are unaccounted for in their entirety. I'm surprised you would discount litigation at this point, as you must be out of a considerable sum from your own pocket beyond just the chips. Certainly Burnin will be, as will BKK, Terrahash and anyone, including all your customers that have coughed up for assembly and parts, and their own time. Certainly the assemblers can afford to refund some of the funds, but they are already huge.y out of pocket for inventory, and hours spent aside chips due to Bitsyncom's shennanigans.

There is a long way to go before this is remotely rectified. If proof to the contrary cannot be provided, which if there is truth to Bitsyncom's claims, proof could then easily be provided, fraud has taken place. It never will be rectified, but really it is up to the community to decide about litigation, and I'm surprised you are so flippant and eager to forgive, when the debt incurred is far beyond that of chips Bitsyncom promised and hand in hand over ten weeks ago. People gave up jobs, and set up businesses and bought stock for their inventory. They have already invested time and money beyond the chips themselves they will never get back. That is not cool, and needs to be addressed. Some of these people face bankruptcy, which may well could have been avoided if Bitsyncom addressed and communicated the issue as and when they knew they would be a little bit late, or reasonably late, before becoming considerably late, then far too late. The fact they didn't boggles the mind as to what, of any honesty to their claims exist. Again the truth is easy to provide evidence for, and unfortunately you may yet have to force that hand with the threat of litigation. As Bitsyncom are clearly reluctant to provide proof, again if true would be effortless, one can only assume they are not being honest. Supporting paperwork at the very least needs to provided, or if needs be demanded via legal action, for those out of pocket to be reimbursed. Again Bitsyncom's efforts in continuing to voluntarily repay back as much of the debts incurred can only benefit them in the long run in the eyes of the law.

Litigation harming Bitcoin is nonsense, it would in fact mean that companies go the extra mile to ensure Bitcoin becomes a safer alternative, further solidifying it's existence as an alternative payment method to traditional finance. It's up to the community and companies involved to play a smarter game.

I am afraid, litigation will indeed harm Bitcoin and the whole crypto-currency space. It will provide a great opening for regulators to justify regulating the whole industry, not just in the U.S., but everywhere else including Europe. When that happens, all of the Bitcoin Foundation efforts to calm down regulators will have come to naught. Do you want to have to fill out a ten-page application form to a government agency just to be able to start mining? Imagine then the bureaucrat who will decide on your business' fate: whose interest will he have in mind, yours, or the whole Bitcoin business space? I say neither. He will make the safest decision, one that will not bite him later.(Don't take that as a literal example, it is just an example, one of the effects of regulation.)

EDIT:
And the more innovative your proposed business is, the more opposition you will encounter from the bureaucrat. Goodbye innovation, the mother of Bitcoin and all crypto-currencies.

I am not saying there should be no rules either. If you care to continue this discussion, I suggest we proceed here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/as-a-community-we-need-to-be-able-to-govern-ourselves-285654
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RockStable Token Inc
September 01, 2013, 03:19:05 PM
Sooner or later we all will know what happened

If only.  Personally I don't think that we ever will.

I'm still waiting to hear the details of what when wrong with bASIC/BTCFPGA LLC now, almost a year after their collapse.

And please don't be so sure that litigation will get you that information either. During litigation, the litigants can choose to settle anytime, and in most cases one of the items open to negotiation is how much information to make public.
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