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Topic: (Closed) Butter Bot!: Premier Bitstamp, and BTC-E EMA Trading Platform (Closed) - page 21. (Read 274813 times)

uck
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I optimized your settings. Can someone beat my settings? (its a contest right?)

I didn't optimize it "in depth" since I was looking at 1) how to scale trades properly given a specific timeframe 2) has mostly green throughout 3) Works extremely well during a long term bear market 4) develop a simpler method for optimizing settings within 2 hours. Which is what I more or less wanted to achieve.

I took a pic at 3 months 6 months and 1 year so you can see how it performs without the prominent growth from earlier in the year.



Edit: You got 10677%...
I got...13104%




It would be great if the Backtest engine could be enhanced to have multiple time views like this ...   oh yeah.... (really great)
sr. member
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Thank you Pablo for providing us a highly sought after feature. I will use it for sure.
legendary
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Sneak Peek Smiley
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Any estimated time to release the update? <3

The beta over the next couple of days :=).

Depending on how it goes with the Beta team, I would say a couple of weeks.

Smiley.

Pablo.
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Wassup?
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Any estimated time to release the update? <3
legendary
Activity: 1183
Merit: 1000
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Sneak Peek Smiley
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newbie
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Hello everybody. I'm a new Butter Bot user and as you may see, a first time poster. I very much appreciate your assistance.

I'm struggling on page one of the Butter Bot setup manual. I type chrome://extensions on the  Google Chrome address bar, and the extension page doesn't have the same BTC ticker icon that I see in the manual, just a Google doc. Nothing to drag and drop. And where do I copy and paste my license code? Looks like I'm hitting the learning curve running  Grin

Thanks guys.

the btc ticker doesn't matter - it's just another extension like butterbot or adblock etc. etc.
simply drag the bot file from your email attachment in the free space below the headline "extensions" - that's it.
now it should appear in the extesions list (the place where you dropped it), together with an "active" checkbox.
check the "active" checkbox and open a new tab.
you should now see the butter bot icon in the upper right corner of your chrome browser window...
click the icon to open the context menu and choose options (screw-wrench icon) to configure the bot.


Thanks so much Grinny. Thanks also to Pablo. You guys rock.
sr. member
Activity: 390
Merit: 250
Hello everybody. I'm a new Butter Bot user and as you may see, a first time poster. I very much appreciate your assistance.

I'm struggling on page one of the Butter Bot setup manual. I type chrome://extensions on the  Google Chrome address bar, and the extension page doesn't have the same BTC ticker icon that I see in the manual, just a Google doc. Nothing to drag and drop. And where do I copy and paste my license code? Looks like I'm hitting the learning curve running  Grin

Thanks guys.

the btc ticker doesn't matter - it's just another extension like butterbot or adblock etc. etc.
simply drag the bot file from your email attachment in the free space below the headline "extensions" - that's it.
now it should appear in the extesions list (the place where you dropped it), together with an "active" checkbox.
check the "active" checkbox and open a new tab.
you should now see the butter bot icon in the upper right corner of your chrome browser window...
click the icon to open the context menu and choose options (screw-wrench icon) to configure the bot.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
Hello everybody. I'm a new Butter Bot user and as you may see, a first time poster. I very much appreciate your assistance.

I'm struggling on page one of the Butter Bot setup manual. I type chrome://extensions on the  Google Chrome address bar, and the extension page doesn't have the same BTC ticker icon that I see in the manual, just a Google doc. Nothing to drag and drop. And where do I copy and paste my license code? Looks like I'm hitting the learning curve running  Grin

Thanks guys.
sr. member
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member
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Wassup?
I would like to test it you Wink
legendary
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LTC
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We will have the LTC Beta coming out most likely by next Friday. I would like to ask for Beta testing volunteers; anyone interested on getting in on this, please drop me an email Smiley.

Please keep in mind that beta's may have unforeseen bugs and other issues and we can not be responsible for any negative results experienced by early testers; having said that, the new release is rocking Smiley.

Pablo.

(Edit: YAY! I got the first post on page 100!)
legendary
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@ Pablo

You once mentioned that ButterBot takes about 160 or 165 SMA samples to generate the first EMA value. I have tried various amounts but never seem to be able to replicate the exact same EMA values as butterbot.

Could you ask around about this?

I am compiling a Month to Month Minute accurate excel sheet to distribute on the forum so we can run various kinds of math against the past. But so far I am having a hard time replicating the ButterBot EMA samples. (I'd like it to match the real butter rather than be an approximation).
@ Pablo
Did you get around to investigating the SMA samples?

Puerto,
  Email me so we can discuss it in detail Smiley.

Pablo.
Will do.

@ The 1st thresholds.

I'd like to say that if you are creative enough, you can use the first pair of thresholds to limit your losses. Keep that in mind.

If you tune your settings with the first pair, you can also make the bot act slightly different in various types of scenarios.

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For example, you might want to assure your bot [only] buys after a sustained dip.

In this case your threshold might be a 2 and the second threshold for buying might be a 0.3

Same would be true of a sell scenario.
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You can also use the first pair to assure the bot weeds out the sudden micro peaks that don't affect price very much. For example, the market might go from -0.18 to 0.3 in two intervals. Using the first pair you can induce the bot to only buy if there is first a 0.25 or higher target  and then on the second threshold 0.3


Which means it is looking for progression rather than sudden spikes which only meet 1 criteria.

If you learn how to use the first pair properly you can even set the bot to look for specific types of reversals. Just food for thought if folks think the first pair is useless. It's not. The programmer probably placed it there after realizing that 1 threshold can create wins but also major losses when there are false positives.

If you could set even more thresholds you could probably look for specific types of EMA curves and not just 2 basic thresholds being met.
legendary
Activity: 1183
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I've been playing with my own settings and getting good results using single threshold trading (by making all threshold 1's "-50") in the current market. I know you guys are discussing this, it's quite interesting to observe.

The difference lies on how fast Butter will act on market changes, we have two thresholds to slow down trading and have Butter trade on more established trends, this single threshold setting seems interesting for those who have a higher risk, shorter term reward profile.

Pablo.
legendary
Activity: 1183
Merit: 1000
@ Pablo

You once mentioned that ButterBot takes about 160 or 165 SMA samples to generate the first EMA value. I have tried various amounts but never seem to be able to replicate the exact same EMA values as butterbot.

Could you ask around about this?

I am compiling a Month to Month Minute accurate excel sheet to distribute on the forum so we can run various kinds of math against the past. But so far I am having a hard time replicating the ButterBot EMA samples. (I'd like it to match the real butter rather than be an approximation).
@ Pablo
Did you get around to investigating the SMA samples?

Puerto,
  Email me so we can discuss it in detail Smiley.

Pablo.
hero member
Activity: 715
Merit: 500

That's a matter of opinion. Personally, I don't like a negative threshold 1 value, but the threshold 2 value is much more important. Threshold 1 value, in my opinion, is the least important parameter for this bot.

So should i stay with these or change the threshold 1?

Again, it's all opinion, and mine is that a neutral or slightly positive threshold 1 is better. There is no right or wrong. Play with the backtesting and see what you like and think about what makes most sense to you. Remember threshold 1 is the least significant parameter for this bot. I wouldn't get too caught up on it.
member
Activity: 111
Merit: 10
Wassup?
What exchange are you using?

Bitstamp should have:

21.01.2014 02:58:00   sell   819.750    $100.11   0.11%
18.01.2014 00:58:00   buy   810.690    $99.50   -0.50%

MtGox:

22.01.2014 07:28:00   sell   952.100    $99.87   -0.13%
19.01.2014 07:28:00   buy   919.000    $96.98   -3.02%
19.01.2014 00:58:00   sell   902.200    $97.56   -2.44%
18.01.2014 00:58:00   buy   913.689    $99.40   -0.60%

BTC-e:

20.01.2014 11:28:00   sell   821.165    $100.67   0.67%
18.01.2014 02:28:00   buy   812.400    $99.80   -0.20%

If butterbot didn't trade at these times, then your API connection might not be working.

Also, are you aware of bitcoinwisdom? You can plug in your EMA parameters, your interval, and the exchange that your using. That and trading view are my favorite charting services to watch. Bitcoincharts.com is better for backtesting.

I'm using BTC-E

BTC/USD   sell   0.1712 BTC   820 USD   140.384 USD   20.01.14 20:29
BTC/USD   buy   0.12735 BTC   798.997 USD   101.75226795 USD   18.01.14 02:52

That's the last operation he did, 3 days ago
(the threshold's 1 are good?)

That's a matter of opinion. Personally, I don't like a negative threshold 1 value, but the threshold 2 value is much more important. Threshold 1 value, in my opinion, is the least important parameter for this bot.

So should i stay with these or change the threshold 1?
hero member
Activity: 715
Merit: 500
What exchange are you using?

Bitstamp should have:

21.01.2014 02:58:00   sell   819.750    $100.11   0.11%
18.01.2014 00:58:00   buy   810.690    $99.50   -0.50%

MtGox:

22.01.2014 07:28:00   sell   952.100    $99.87   -0.13%
19.01.2014 07:28:00   buy   919.000    $96.98   -3.02%
19.01.2014 00:58:00   sell   902.200    $97.56   -2.44%
18.01.2014 00:58:00   buy   913.689    $99.40   -0.60%

BTC-e:

20.01.2014 11:28:00   sell   821.165    $100.67   0.67%
18.01.2014 02:28:00   buy   812.400    $99.80   -0.20%

If butterbot didn't trade at these times, then your API connection might not be working.

Also, are you aware of bitcoinwisdom? You can plug in your EMA parameters, your interval, and the exchange that your using. That and trading view are my favorite charting services to watch. Bitcoincharts.com is better for backtesting.

I'm using BTC-E

BTC/USD   sell   0.1712 BTC   820 USD   140.384 USD   20.01.14 20:29
BTC/USD   buy   0.12735 BTC   798.997 USD   101.75226795 USD   18.01.14 02:52

That's the last operation he did, 3 days ago
(the threshold's 1 are good?)

That's a matter of opinion. Personally, I don't like a negative threshold 1 value, but the threshold 2 value is much more important. Threshold 1 value, in my opinion, is the least important parameter for this bot.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
@ Pablo

You once mentioned that ButterBot takes about 160 or 165 SMA samples to generate the first EMA value. I have tried various amounts but never seem to be able to replicate the exact same EMA values as butterbot.

Could you ask around about this?

I am compiling a Month to Month Minute accurate excel sheet to distribute on the forum so we can run various kinds of math against the past. But so far I am having a hard time replicating the ButterBot EMA samples. (I'd like it to match the real butter rather than be an approximation).
@ Pablo
Did you get around to investigating the SMA samples?
member
Activity: 111
Merit: 10
Wassup?
What exchange are you using?

Bitstamp should have:

21.01.2014 02:58:00   sell   819.750    $100.11   0.11%
18.01.2014 00:58:00   buy   810.690    $99.50   -0.50%

MtGox:

22.01.2014 07:28:00   sell   952.100    $99.87   -0.13%
19.01.2014 07:28:00   buy   919.000    $96.98   -3.02%
19.01.2014 00:58:00   sell   902.200    $97.56   -2.44%
18.01.2014 00:58:00   buy   913.689    $99.40   -0.60%

BTC-e:

20.01.2014 11:28:00   sell   821.165    $100.67   0.67%
18.01.2014 02:28:00   buy   812.400    $99.80   -0.20%

If butterbot didn't trade at these times, then your API connection might not be working.

Also, are you aware of bitcoinwisdom? You can plug in your EMA parameters, your interval, and the exchange that your using. That and trading view are my favorite charting services to watch. Bitcoincharts.com is better for backtesting.

I'm using BTC-E

BTC/USD   sell   0.1712 BTC   820 USD   140.384 USD   20.01.14 20:29
BTC/USD   buy   0.12735 BTC   798.997 USD   101.75226795 USD   18.01.14 02:52

That's the last operation he did, 3 days ago
(the threshold's 1 are good?)
hero member
Activity: 715
Merit: 500
What exchange are you using?

Bitstamp should have:

21.01.2014 02:58:00   sell   819.750    $100.11   0.11%
18.01.2014 00:58:00   buy   810.690    $99.50   -0.50%

MtGox:

22.01.2014 07:28:00   sell   952.100    $99.87   -0.13%
19.01.2014 07:28:00   buy   919.000    $96.98   -3.02%
19.01.2014 00:58:00   sell   902.200    $97.56   -2.44%
18.01.2014 00:58:00   buy   913.689    $99.40   -0.60%

BTC-e:

20.01.2014 11:28:00   sell   821.165    $100.67   0.67%
18.01.2014 02:28:00   buy   812.400    $99.80   -0.20%

If butterbot didn't trade at these times, then your API connection might not be working.

Also, are you aware of bitcoinwisdom? You can plug in your EMA parameters, your interval, and the exchange that your using. That and trading view are my favorite charting services to watch. Bitcoincharts.com is better for backtesting.
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