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Topic: [CLOSED] MtRed (PPS, LP+, API, 0 FEE) STRATUM on mine.mtred.com:3333 - page 18. (Read 176233 times)

sr. member
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Small problem, I have 1BTC stuck in the processing stage since almost a day. No payments since then.

If I look on the Found Blocks list : https://mtred.com/blocks.html there are three blocks stuck on still waiting for 112, 87, 36 confirmations.

Same here. I sent in a contact form but have not heard anything back yet.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Small problem, I have 1BTC stuck in the processing stage since almost a day. No payments since then.

If I look on the Found Blocks list : https://mtred.com/blocks.html there are three blocks stuck on still waiting for 112, 87, 36 confirmations.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
+1 on Vardiff.  Glad to see stratum as an option (maybe by default).
sr. member
Activity: 446
Merit: 250
Please, Instant share credit as well as vardiff stratum.

I won't be able to mine with diff 1 shares once the asic's arrive and I'm using a lot of bandwidth even now.

Please add vardiff or ability to set my difficult for my workers.

Sorry about the 49er's. I was hoping they would will also.

Many thanks.

edit: spelling error and added 49er text.
full member
Activity: 239
Merit: 100
Yes, the main page and estimations are 2x more than they should be. 

This is addressed in the redesign; and if the 49ers win, I will upgrade us tomorrow.  Grin

Awesome! Glad to hear that.

What are your thoughts on instant share credit?
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Oh that's too bad, 'cause the Ravens are gonna take it!
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Nom Nom Nom
Yes, the main page and estimations are 2x more than they should be. 

This is addressed in the redesign; and if the 49ers win, I will upgrade us tomorrow.  Grin
full member
Activity: 239
Merit: 100
TLDR; Awesome pool is awesome, but I don't truly know how much BTC I will earn per block found until the block is found, since estimation always gives me wacky numbers and instant share credit isn't offered.

The amount you earn is not based on how long MTRED takes to find a block. Every share you submit that is accepted by the pool is awarded the same amount (assuming you aren't using variable difficulty - otherwise you have to calculate is manually using cgminer's output). Assuming you're only submitting difficulty 1 shares, the amount you're paid will be:

B / D * ( 1 - f )
where:
B = the current bitcoin reward per block (25btc)
D =  the current network mining Difficulty (2968775.33), and
f = the fee or donation you're paying (if you pay a 3% donation, f = 0.03)

Just keep track of your shares and you'll now how much you should be paid.

Oh, calculating this myself isn't really a problem, but as any other good redditor, I'm lazy. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. I think it's just the convenience factor when you compare feature parity of Mt Red with other pools (at least as far as web UI is concerned). I'm not saying that Mt Red has to be like all of the other pools out there, I'm just saying some of the features seen in those other pools do add value.

And something interesting that caught my eye in this thread specifically, it would actually make sense as to why the current estimation is consistently off (typically twice the amount than the actual payoff).

Anyone else notice the Estimation shown on the dashboard page isn't showing the right estimation? I don't think the code has been changed to reflect the reward halving.

Also, the PPS rate on the main page definitely appears wrong. Smiley
donator
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1007
Poor impulse control.
TLDR; Awesome pool is awesome, but I don't truly know how much BTC I will earn per block found until the block is found, since estimation always gives me wacky numbers and instant share credit isn't offered.

The amount you earn is not based on how long MTRED takes to find a block. Every share you submit that is accepted by the pool is awarded the same amount (assuming you aren't using variable difficulty - otherwise you have to calculate is manually using cgminer's output). Assuming you're only submitting difficulty 1 shares, the amount you're paid will be:

B / D * ( 1 - f )
where:
B = the current bitcoin reward per block (25btc)
D =  the current network mining Difficulty (2968775.33), and
f = the fee or donation you're paying (if you pay a 3% donation, f = 0.03)

Just keep track of your shares and you'll now how much you should be paid.
full member
Activity: 239
Merit: 100
Quick question. I've been moving around to different pools trying to figure out what the best rate of return is, and I keep finding that MtRed offers consistantly a higher PPS than any other pool.

However, that being said, I have two issues which continue to keep me looking at other pools:

1.) I don't think I've ever seen the Estimation section of the Dashboard ever give an accurate reading. This is kind of okay as it's just a visual issue really, but it bothers me that this calculation is always way off. I can see how I might be incorrect if I wasn't present for the entire 25.###### transaction, but even when I've been there from start to finish, the estimation is always at least 1/3rd to 1/2 higher than the actual payout.

2.) While the PPS may be the highest I've been able to see so far (including a 1-3% donation), its frustrating that the shares aren't awarded until after the entire section has been completed. I'm assuming that Mt. Red just doesn't have a system in place to allow BTC to be floated so I'm not really per se complaining about this, I was just curious as to why this option isn't available for this pool. I'm more so just wondering if this specific feature has been thought about. I could potentially see a feature like that making the pool more popular, especially when given that the PPS is still higher than say the guys over at 50BTC, and they generate about 7 times more speed than Red does.

Other than those two issues, I have to say that I really do like Mt. Reds pool! It was kind of cool being a redditor myself to see that not only do we have a pool, but that it's in the top ten of all pools out there. Additionally, all of the documentation on the Mt. Red website was good enough that I went from being confused about what specific options to use and miners to having a really easy grasp on how to setup miners for not just Mt. Red, but any other pool or just mining in general.



TLDR; Awesome pool is awesome, but I don't truly know how much BTC I will earn per block found until the block is found, since estimation always gives me wacky numbers and instant share credit isn't offered.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1004
Heres some lifetime stats of mtred. Excuse the spikes on hashrate; Most of them are filtered out. The cause is mtred's web server would go down but some of the mining servers would stay up, so it would play catch-up and appear to have crazy high hashrate.

Credits go to wizkid057 for creating the graphs. Drag across part of a graph to zoom in. Double click to zoom out.
http://vpn.wizkid057.com/mtred/
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
Oh damn, MtRed website is still down.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
If you do a traceroute on mtred.com and pa.mtred.com you can see they're actually hosted by different providers.
Clearly the provider for mtred.com has chronic problems.   Cool
Yeah, I was mining on mtred.com:8837 due to the lower stales and rejects. Turns out that pa.mtred.com has stratum support now, which is awesome!  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
The web site is down but pa.mtred.com is up.
Yep, you're right. Thanks!  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
PS: The pool is down from my side.  Cry
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Nom Nom Nom
Sounds good, should have done it sooner.  I have had to restart it a few times, so thats probably adding a few stales.

I also just replaced the old pushpool server on mtred.com:8837 *the beta port with the new stratum-mining-proxy hotness.

I may also do the same for the main port in a few days, as we are nearing the end redesign of the web frontend.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
After aprox 24H on stratum my reject ratio is 0.126  Smiley
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legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
What's with the high discarded work rate?
Normal, with new blocks you don't keep working on it, you throw it out to not create shares from stale work.
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legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
The story so far after a few hours:
Code:
Pool: http://pa.mtred.com:3333
Does not have own long-poll support
 Queued work requests: 253
 Share submissions: 9268
 Accepted shares: 9263
 Rejected shares: 5
 Accepted difficulty shares: 9263
 Rejected difficulty shares: 5
 Reject ratio: 0.1%
 Efficiency (accepted / queued): 3661%
 Discarded work due to new blocks: 499
 Stale submissions discarded due to new blocks: 2
 Unable to get work from server occasions: 1
 Submitting work remotely delay occasions: 0
Reject ratio is a little higher than my regular pool, but that pool is also in my local city so a 50ms ping time whereas mtred is 240ms. However I used to get up to 2% rejects on mtred, which stopped me mining here, so this is a ludicrous improvement. Note there is one "Unable to get work from server occasions". That would have been a disconnect which would then have dropped some shares as mentioned in the previous post. At the moment the stats don't show how many of those shares were lost.

I'm sure current miners moving over to stratum would dramatically lower the server load. Now if higher diff share submission was added, the load on the server would drop even more and be able to tolerate even asic hashrate submissions.
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legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
As a followup, the stale rate is markedly lower than it used to be, which is great news since that was the main thing keeping me from mining here. Many stratum disconnects would also be a new problem since shares are lost on each disconnect, but so far there have been no disconnects.

What do disconnects look like in the log? I don't think I've ever seen "Stratum disconnect". So just curious.

A message saying:
Code:
Lost %d shares due to stratum disconnect on pool %d
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