Topic: Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal - page 4. (Read 4088 times)

Ups, my mistake. I wrongly copy/pasted signature and used wrong address.

All messages from address used to deposit to this address 1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU are verified and matches this screenshot:

https://imgur.com/a/uq8IkzH

So, I believe this is proof of ownership.

The date i put is the date I sent the coin from them. I guess its right? I just followed Lauda format. So yeah. It works fine here.

You can see everything i posted already. The deposit address i used its there bottom of begin signature thats the address. Try to look the photo i uploaded. And you will know. Thats why i upload the photo so that you will know everything. And its easy and no error if you do it right.

I proved already. And dont tell me that other person can do that. You will not get an error if you do it right. I have done it many times now. Im done responding, Cloudbet's turn.


Albert

I am getting this on all signed messages:

An error occured in the verification process.

Please sign message with today's date and keep it simple. Example:

"14.02.2019. this is Swofty".

1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU address matches this:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Albert

Cloudbet username: swofty

Deposit address: 1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU

Date: 12-29-2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
14eyUeT1TBR7M8b6MP9NyBqy6cSQnmXgqr
H23rC9FVm3q7Yx4lhfJv+nrbckfLi7WATM7vc+p+mpi5Q7YAg0Wdi0MiPFmvf1vWlz3858trK+83A26hDPZzPgc=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

==============================================

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Albert

Cloudbet username: swofty

Deposit address: 1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU

Date: 12-31-2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1AEJHYcFZ6y54yC7WwcDKKbqMnw47ZYFCq
H8ulCGea9Lg6HajghM7QVEspZLfdvRTtNENUZpgRxEH0a06fHVTm9md85/2f/6z3pJLWdk/RdJPsS1aQkptmwA4=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

=============================================

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Albert

Cloudbet username: swofty

Deposit address: 1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU

Date: 12-31-2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
16rvkmzatShJpgWoMhx9LEMZHdjPmcan2Q
H43+dHvnC3SMQ6W04tX7Fq6wDhxITDnCE+n3/2jC8AGyWLywx8b3aw17GItgL9YPiK4YBhpvtLa4LQy5WmAY/vM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

==========================================

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Albert

Cloudbet username: swofty

Deposit address: 1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU

Date: 12-31-2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1MqJjomzoc66w7q8jL4FMumBPpt6NKeudS
ICVkEfalOhBd8kRq9kj7d8VZIn7rUaXc32JyiVL+lli6L6Ho8nla4Vq0FDaSjU2MHsu4qU2zaq0Rjel0TJS+fN8=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

==========================================

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Albert

Cloudbet username: swofty

Deposit address: 1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU

Date: 12-31-2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NzXeedajYzazbTcAy93eGd6QELqGFn1VF
H5A5i99TcoAwlRYy5JhtaD8fDi77ETwL6nrob9vx6ysUIDi+v0O08IKIb9Mo7a36vFdAuYEHhXeEFFQ3f/hM7rE=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

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when i double check verify these on coinomi the spacing is very important. after each line... this is albert... username.. deposit address there is a space so double space. and after the date there is no spaces at all after it,
it is just very important to get this spacing right in order for you to verify. So this is what it looks like

https://imgur.com/a/qjqFRxb

https://imgur.com/a/rwftJ0Z

Here you go. SIGNED MESSAGE. By the way ONLY ME can do that.


Albert

Hold on now.

No one said anything about deposit:

That is all they said.

Ronnie can you confirm that conversation is real and what kind of fraudulent behavior live support is talking about?

I don't see anyone complaining that Cloudbet withholds their 330BTC except Albert. How's that possible?

Why player has to reach Curacao Egaming to get his money?

Who are you trying to convince here Ronnie? Yourself or us? Players have to complain on random forums to get their money back. Recent example https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudbet-is-scam-they-are-not-paying-for-winning-bets-5105084 where Cloudbet tried to steal money from player under false excuse that player cheated in roulette.
After scam accusation all games mysteriously become legit and player got his money.

Swofty,

They now turn your case to eCuracao Gaming - this is not justified.
Why don't you speak to Game Protect about this, just send GP a message and see what are your LEGAL options?

It doesn't cost anything to ask.

i see no reason why should the community respect whoever that is decision , we also don't know for sure if whether you have already settled the issue with them and are certain about their decision that will be to your side, it's strange that they did not reach out to the player for any evidence, seems to me that they will only use the information provided by you ?

it's also strange that you are also licensed under E-Gambling Montenegro yet you decide to pass this issue to "Curaçao Egaming" , so why not  E-Gambling Montenegro or any other 3rd party for that matter?


another concern i have is that you never you mentioned anything about the player "cheating" whatsoever, so the main concern seems to be the suspected "fraudulent activity"  related to his initial deposit, why did this problem only took place when he tried to cash-out and not after the deposit? assuming the player have lost, would you still undergo such investigations? hmmm !

another strange thing is the player was able to withdraw 50 BTC on 31th dec but you rejected another deposit of 52BTC on the same day. you even accepted his previous withdrawal on the 30th of dec of 41btc , so what happened ? you ran out of coins?

i am not directly accusing you for anything YET, i am simply thinking out loud here, and you are not giving us any answers , i am not buying the excuse of you not answering simply because the investigation is still going on.

You would be surprised. I asked another casino to do it several years ago and they did not know what I was talking about.
They are a casino and only interested in receiving funds and nothing else.

This must be a joke LOL

I find it strange they would say in their thread and in this one
"In this case, our fraud team has needed more time than usual as the case is quite complicated and involves several different parties and inconsistent information from the player. This is our standard procedure if there is any suspicion of fraudulent activity."
When they have already paid this player up to 50btc before hand.
But builds a brick wall when needing to pay 3 times this amount.

I believe they can not sign a message with this amount of bitcoin because they dont have it or they do not know how to sign a message in the first place.
Just coming up with another excuse toward their customer to delay paying him once again.

The case should be end once you get your money. Signing a bitcoin address is just a start.

I will do it. Just to end this whole thing. And I hope it will end this case.

OP was too good to them.
OP let me know if you need any assistance to learn to sign a Bitcoin address. Feel free to PM me if you need any assistance. If you have an Electrum wallet then it's really easy to sign a message.

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Check my other thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49672138

Who? Give names.

surprise Surprise! Another stall tactic and now they are supposedly putting the decision on someone else's hand so they can deny any wrongdoing when they keep all of his BTC.  Guess they couldn't resist that easy million dollars, no way are they just going to let you have it, sorry man, you have no chance.

A signed message is not about what cloudbet says it's about proving that you sent the BTC using that address means you own that address and you want your winning there.

= Post all the tx IDs which were used to sent the BTC to them
= Using one of these address sign a message. You can write anything. just be sure you have the current date and time. Also make sure you are using this bitcoinTalk username and their username too.

This will clear up that you own that BTC address and you want your winnings and investment to that address. No fucking KYC and BS.

So you know how to sign a message?

Can Cloudbet say what signed message ill put? Or ill just put Swofty Albert on the signed message?