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Best of all is that still didnt tell me the reasonn for all of this. They acting like 1xbit lol. This an old crypto sportsbook and doesnt have anyone here in this forum?

You are entitled to know what’s the reason for implementing this unique KYC procedure because you are there customer. Why not create a reputation thread about this if you are sure that you don’t know what’s the reason and cloudbet is not allowing you to know what is it. What exactly you do on the casino before this KYC hammer down to your account. Make it brief so that everyone can catch up to your story.

Yeah, it is way too unique.  Often times KYC only needs a selfie of ID and a piece of paper where the name of the company is written to it.  And the picture is taken inside the house or in front of the PC.  I am also curious why Cloudbet needs the player to take a picture outside on the street.  If they are suspecting the person of living in the restricted country then a Passport and a daily issue of a local newspaper with cloudbet markings on it are enough, IMO.



I got curious too why they asked for that so I search through their website. According to their Terms of Service, they could ask a user some identification material which I think the requirement of "outside the house" still pass that criteria.

User brandonlang also has negative trust tag from yahoo62278 which is somehow related to how he acts.




Regardless of the trust rating which I believe is not related to the kind of KYC cloudbet is asking, their TOS  clearly stated that it only needs proof of date (which is the newspaper issue) and the identification material (which is represented by the ID and the cloudlet markings on the newspaper).  Those two had already met the requirement, and taking the selfie on the street is way overkill,IMO  Grin

I believe the answer is very simple these day’s making fake documents is easy, and it’s possible that Cloudbet may have run into user’s who provided fake documents, and thus decided to apply this extra rule for more protection. Furthermore if someone can submit all documents for KYC, then they shouldn’t mind submitting the selfie and therefore I totally agree with @yahoo62278.

Asking me for verification and doesnt want to tell me the reason😂😂😂😂😂😂

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A site doesn't have to give you a reason to ask for verification. It is well within their right to ask. You could be losing thousands or winning thousands, it doesn't matter.
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I got curious too why they asked for that so I search through their website. According to their Terms of Service, they could ask a user some identification material which I think the requirement of "outside the house" still pass that criteria.

User brandonlang also has negative trust tag from yahoo62278 which is somehow related to how he acts.




Regardless of the trust rating which I believe is not related to the kind of KYC cloudbet is asking, their TOS  clearly stated that it only needs proof of date (which is the newspaper issue) and the identification material (which is represented by the ID and the cloudlet markings on the newspaper).  Those two had already met the requirement, and taking the selfie on the street is way overkill,IMO  Grin
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Asking me for verification and doesnt want to tell me the reason😂😂😂😂😂😂
You have two choices to make. If you don't feel like carrying out KYC verification, then just chill. It's that simple. What is said in their terms of service is very clear.

You don't deposit and play in a gambling site minus reading and understand the terms of service.
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Asking me for verification and doesnt want to tell me the reason😂😂😂😂😂😂

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A site doesn't have to give you a reason to ask for verification. It is well within their right to ask. You could be losing thousands or winning thousands, it doesn't matter.
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Asking me for verification and doesnt want to tell me the reason😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Best of all is that still didnt tell me the reasonn for all of this. They acting like 1xbit lol. This an old crypto sportsbook and doesnt have anyone here in this forum?

You are entitled to know what’s the reason for implementing this unique KYC procedure because you are there customer. Why not create a reputation thread about this if you are sure that you don’t know what’s the reason and cloudbet is not allowing you to know what is it. What exactly you do on the casino before this KYC hammer down to your account. Make it brief so that everyone can catch up to your story.

Yeah, it is way too unique.  Often times KYC only needs a selfie of ID and a piece of paper where the name of the company is written to it.  And the picture is taken inside the house or in front of the PC.  I am also curious why Cloudbet needs the player to take a picture outside on the street.  If they are suspecting the person of living in the restricted country then a Passport and a daily issue of a local newspaper with cloudbet markings on it are enough, IMO.

I’ve done KYC on other popular casino before and they just need me to submit my ID and Proof Address without requiring me to send selfie holding the ID and some required selfie but holding only the ID without any peculiar request and so on. Cloudbet seems making there KYC to the next level for whatever reason they are holding right now. AML has no specific procedure on the KYC so I believe this is just a personal protocol of Cloudbet.
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Isnt this too much😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Already send this people selfie...dni...bill... are they fucking serious i have to buy a newspaper😂😂😂

This is the first time I heard of a selfie with an ID and a newspaper outside the house premise.  Is the staff toying with you?  That actually isn't funny, taking selfies on the street might result in a possible accident.  I find it insulting to think that the staff is trying to make fun of the player.  I would understand the newspaper, ID, and Pen to mark the newspaper with Cloudbet but on the street?...  I think the requirement has gone too far.

Yeah, this seems to be a very strange request. It seems odd that a casino would ask for such a ridiculous and unreasonable thing from a player.
Unfortunately, there isn't an active Cloudbet representative here anymore, and I would really like to see their reasoning as well.


I got curious too why they asked for that so I search through their website. According to their Terms of Service, they could ask a user some identification material which I think the requirement of "outside the house" still pass that criteria.

User brandonlang also has negative trust tag from yahoo62278 which is somehow related to how he acts.

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Isnt this too much😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Already send this people selfie...dni...bill... are they fucking serious i have to buy a newspaper😂😂😂

This is the first time I heard of a selfie with an ID and a newspaper outside the house premise.  Is the staff toying with you?  That actually isn't funny, taking selfies on the street might result in a possible accident.  I find it insulting to think that the staff is trying to make fun of the player.  I would understand the newspaper, ID, and Pen to mark the newspaper with Cloudbet but on the street?...  I think the requirement has gone too far.

Yeah, this seems to be a very strange request. It seems odd that a casino would ask for such a ridiculous and unreasonable thing from a player.
Unfortunately, there isn't an active Cloudbet representative here anymore, and I would really like to see their reasoning as well.
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Best of all is that still didnt tell me the reasonn for all of this. They acting like 1xbit lol. This an old crypto sportsbook and doesnt have anyone here in this forum?

You are entitled to know what’s the reason for implementing this unique KYC procedure because you are there customer. Why not create a reputation thread about this if you are sure that you don’t know what’s the reason and cloudbet is not allowing you to know what is it. What exactly you do on the casino before this KYC hammer down to your account. Make it brief so that everyone can catch up to your story.

Yeah, it is way too unique.  Often times KYC only needs a selfie of ID and a piece of paper where the name of the company is written to it.  And the picture is taken inside the house or in front of the PC.  I am also curious why Cloudbet needs the player to take a picture outside on the street.  If they are suspecting the person of living in the restricted country then a Passport and a daily issue of a local newspaper with cloudbet markings on it are enough, IMO.
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Best of all is that still didnt tell me the reasonn for all of this. They acting like 1xbit lol. This an old crypto sportsbook and doesnt have anyone here in this forum?

You are entitled to know what’s the reason for implementing this unique KYC procedure because you are there customer. Why not create a reputation thread about this if you are sure that you don’t know what’s the reason and cloudbet is not allowing you to know what is it. What exactly you do on the casino before this KYC hammer down to your account. Make it brief so that everyone can catch up to your story.
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Isnt this too much😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Already send this people selfie...dni...bill... are they fucking serious i have to buy a newspaper😂😂😂

This is the first time I heard of a selfie with an ID and a newspaper outside the house premise.  Is the staff toying with you?  That actually isn't funny, taking selfies on the street might result in a possible accident.  I find it insulting to think that the staff is trying to make fun of the player.  I would understand the newspaper, ID, and Pen to mark the newspaper with Cloudbet but on the street?...  I think the requirement has gone too far.
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I just noticed cloudbet doesn’t accept Lightning Network transactions as a way to deposit funds.
Does anyone know why this feature is missing? Are they going to implement it?
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Isnt this too much😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Already send this people selfie...dni...bill... are they fucking serious i have to buy a newspaper😂😂😂

This is hilarious af. Is this for real email? This is the first to see this kind of KYC procedure for a gambling company. What’s your deal with them on how you come up of requiring KYC for your account? I believe a piece of paper written the current date and the id itself is sufficient to verify the authenticity of the documents. Taking a picture outside is bit over kill in my opinion.

But you should follow them because that’s what KYC requirements from there regulator.


And that to me is a very intrusive KYC method. Imagine having to go through the hassle of taking a selfie with a newspaper on one hand and your ID on another. How does Cloudbet want this verification to proceed?  Cheesy Do they think people have more than two hands to accomplish this?  Roll Eyes Anyway, I'd be wary of doing this verification near my place. They may have my address on file, but that doesn't mean that I am presently and physically there at all times. Better take the selfie near huge establishments.

Best of all is that still didnt tell me the reasonn for all of this. They acting like 1xbit lol. This an old crypto sportsbook and doesnt have anyone here in this forum?
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Isnt this too much😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Already send this people selfie...dni...bill... are they fucking serious i have to buy a newspaper😂😂😂

This is hilarious af. Is this for real email? This is the first to see this kind of KYC procedure for a gambling company. What’s your deal with them on how you come up of requiring KYC for your account? I believe a piece of paper written the current date and the id itself is sufficient to verify the authenticity of the documents. Taking a picture outside is bit over kill in my opinion.

But you should follow them because that’s what KYC requirements from there regulator.


And that to me is a very intrusive KYC method. Imagine having to go through the hassle of taking a selfie with a newspaper on one hand and your ID on another. How does Cloudbet want this verification to proceed?  Cheesy Do they think people have more than two hands to accomplish this?  Roll Eyes Anyway, I'd be wary of doing this verification near my place. They may have my address on file, but that doesn't mean that I am presently and physically there at all times. Better take the selfie near huge establishments.
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Isnt this too much😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Already send this people selfie...dni...bill... are they fucking serious i have to buy a newspaper😂😂😂

This is hilarious af. Is this for real email? This is the first to see this kind of KYC procedure for a gambling company. What’s your deal with them on how you come up of requiring KYC for your account? I believe a piece of paper written the current date and the id itself is sufficient to verify the authenticity of the documents. Taking a picture outside is bit over kill in my opinion.

But you should follow them because that’s what KYC requirements from there regulator.

Now got this

 " Your account is blocked while we conduct a Betting integrity investigation. Please note that this process can take up to 6 months.


Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

--

Cloudbet security


JAJAJAJA THIS PEOPLE TREATING ME LIKE IF I KILL SOMEONE OR SOMETHING
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Isnt this too much😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Already send this people selfie...dni...bill... are they fucking serious i have to buy a newspaper😂😂😂

This is hilarious af. Is this for real email? This is the first to see this kind of KYC procedure for a gambling company. What’s your deal with them on how you come up of requiring KYC for your account? I believe a piece of paper written the current date and the id itself is sufficient to verify the authenticity of the documents. Taking a picture outside is bit over kill in my opinion.

But you should follow them because that’s what KYC requirements from there regulator.
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Isnt this too much😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Already send this people selfie...dni...bill... are they fucking serious i have to buy a newspaper😂😂😂
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When were those accusations made? If it was during a bear market, I speculate that similar to other businesses in the cryptospace that went through cashflow problems, Cloudbet might have also had a difficult time in balancing their accounting hehe. However, it has been tested that they will not scam their users. There might only be delays in withdrawals.
There was an issue back in January. The accuser deposited money into the casino but shortly Cloudbet contacted them to perform KYC because they believed he was from a prohibited jurisdiction which was okay. However, the user just wanted to terminate his account and get back the funds since he made no bet, Cloudbet insisted on KYC if he wanted his money back which was unfair.

But well the resolved the issue later. That's the only major complaint I have seen since then, and even before in this forum.

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How did it happen?

I think like gambling is very common in Europe and many European countries are opened with gambling industry. Is there change in Italian regulations against Cryptocurrency and gambling industry that I did not know?


Every gambling website selling services to Italian customers must be specifically authorised and monitored by Italian government.
You must abide to a series of regulations and certifications, otherwise, it’s ban.
Basically, all gambling sites are blocked by default, and you get to obtain this authorisation in order to make your website visible.

Welcome to Italy!

this law exists in all European countries, and already in many countries around the world.for example, Cloudbet has cheated many people and they have no protection, while in European countries people have legal protection
I think what you said here is that European countries already have one here but what you said is that you said that here they cheated and there is no protection.  I don't know, I think what you said may or may not be true

You should stop using auto translate application and start improving your grammar because your statement is very hard to comprehend. He is accusing cloudbet that just avoiding EU people by implementing restrictions on this country because he is claiming that EU citizen is protected by here law which I highly disgree because I use other casino that ban EU IP in there casino when I’m using it on my VPN. The license of the casino is what makes them limits its users that residing on the restricted country and not because the user accusation above. It’s absurd to consider it like that.  Cheesy
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@JollyGood. It might be more complicated than the argument that the government of Italy is being a draconian state, I reckon. They might also be doing this for purposes of taxation which is the revenue source of the government. If international online casinos want to operate in Italy, they need to comply with Italian laws and pay proper taxes. Another purpose for this might be to help avoid their jurisdiction from being a place for money laundering.

Of course, all this is made for taxes.
They pretend they are doing that in order to protect thee fools from separating from their money. The Italian State of course wants the monopoly also in taxing the citizen. So it wants to keep us rich so that we can pay more taxes!
 

I have to say this is somewhat of a draconian law if it goes to these lengths to control the freedom of choice where their adult citizens opt to gamble. They know VPNs are used to bypass such regulations thus making their attempts to limit access almost a failure, yet they still maintain their stance.

How did it happen?

I think like gambling is very common in Europe and many European countries are opened with gambling industry. Is there change in Italian regulations against Cryptocurrency and gambling industry that I did not know?


Every gambling website selling services to Italian customers must be specifically authorised and monitored by Italian government.
You must abide to a series of regulations and certifications, otherwise, it’s ban.
Basically, all gambling sites are blocked by default, and you get to obtain this authorisation in order to make your website visible.

Welcome to Italy!

I agree that firstly it’s about the taxes, and secondly posts the pandemic government may have realised that the gambling industry is thriving, hence they decided that they’ll earn real good money from the approval process in addition to taxes.

Lastly not all gambling sites allow the use VPN, and what’s happens if the gambling sites put Italy in the list of banned countries then these user’s could face lots of issues if they manage to deposit and win, and lastly what’s Cloudbet stance on this for user’s from Italy?.
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