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legendary
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@JollyGood. It might be more complicated than the argument that the government of Italy is being a draconian state, I reckon. They might also be doing this for purposes of taxation which is the revenue source of the government. If international online casinos want to operate in Italy, they need to comply with Italian laws and pay proper taxes. Another purpose for this might be to help avoid their jurisdiction from being a place for money laundering.

Of course, all this is made for taxes.
They pretend they are doing that in order to protect thee fools from separating from their money. The Italian State of course wants the monopoly also in taxing the citizen. So it wants to keep us rich so that we can pay more taxes!
 
legendary
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@JollyGood. It might be more complicated than the argument that the government of Italy is being a draconian state, I reckon. They might also be doing this for purposes of taxation which is the revenue source of the government. If international online casinos want to operate in Italy, they need to comply with Italian laws and pay proper taxes. Another purpose for this might be to help avoid their jurisdiction from being a place for money laundering.
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I have to say this is somewhat of a draconian law if it goes to these lengths to control the freedom of choice where their adult citizens opt to gamble. They know VPNs are used to bypass such regulations thus making their attempts to limit access almost a failure, yet they still maintain their stance.

How did it happen?

I think like gambling is very common in Europe and many European countries are opened with gambling industry. Is there change in Italian regulations against Cryptocurrency and gambling industry that I did not know?


Every gambling website selling services to Italian customers must be specifically authorised and monitored by Italian government.
You must abide to a series of regulations and certifications, otherwise, it’s ban.
Basically, all gambling sites are blocked by default, and you get to obtain this authorisation in order to make your website visible.

Welcome to Italy!
legendary
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^ I don't think so, I have a little bit of research on the scam accusation board and it seems there are too many threads that appear regarding cloudbet reputation. Usually and the common problem is that they don't read first the ToS of the casino and they commit a violation and then now, blame the casino because they are a scam. I don't know Cloudbet because I never played their gambling casino but I think the problem is that the Tos should be read.
Probably OP needs to extend here/his patient right now.
Yes they have had issues in the past just like any of the oldest casinos, I think I remember tagging them at one point when there was no response by them but they did come around and resolved the issue (that was the last time their rep account was active here). From that time, I haven't seen any major complaint about them in the scam accusations board.

When were those accusations made? If it was during a bear market, I speculate that similar to other businesses in the cryptospace that went through cashflow problems, Cloudbet might have also had a difficult time in balancing their accounting hehe. However, it has been tested that they will not scam their users. There might only be delays in withdrawals.
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^ I don't think so, I have a little bit of research on the scam accusation board and it seems there are too many threads that appear regarding cloudbet reputation. Usually and the common problem is that they don't read first the ToS of the casino and they commit a violation and then now, blame the casino because they are a scam. I don't know Cloudbet because I never played their gambling casino but I think the problem is that the Tos should be read.
Probably OP needs to extend here/his patient right now.
Yes they have had issues in the past just like any of the oldest casinos, I think I remember tagging them at one point when there was no response by them but they did come around and resolved the issue (that was the last time their rep account was active here). From that time, I haven't seen any major complaint about them in the scam accusations board.
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How are the withdrawal times at cloudbet these days?

Made first withdrawal via ETH to test the speed, its not instant as it says on the site that most withdrawals are instant, i can still see the cancel button.

Read some bad reviews but still gave it a go, hopefully will receive withdrawal soon and dont have to wait few days or some bs.

Anyone had recent experience with their withdrawal speed?

I used crypto only and amount is not too big, like 300$ only.

Thanks

I have gambled regularly in Cloudbet before and I have never encountered any problems in my withdrawals. We cannot be certain if those bad reviews came from reputable sources and we should not assume that Cloudbet is doing this without a valid reason for suspicions on user activity. There are other sportsbooks and gambling services in the cryptospace if you do not feel safe, however.

@gowinb0t1 did you first check with the support, if yes what did they say but if you have not approached them then do it now as they’re the best people to guide you. @bbc.reporter I believe that Cloudbet came back with a clean slate and they have been doing a good job since then, and lastly I’m sure that once their representatives see this comment they’ll step in to explain their side of the story.

Based on my experience, Cloudbet does not process withdrawals instantly like other sites.

In this review, it says withdrawals are processed within 24 hours.
https://www.covers.com/betting/reviews/cloudbet

Now, if it already exceed 24 hours, then that's the time you have to worry.
I can't find the exact post from gowinb0t1, did he deleted it already? I guess so.
It seems that it is only few minutes had passed when he requested a withdrawal on Cloudbet and then decided to consult here about anyone's withdrawal experience.
He probably he already received the withdrawal to his wallet.

As per my experience with instant withdrawal casinos is that, "Instant Withdrawal" isn't really instant. But it's a fastest way to withdraw funds from the balance. The request still need to be reviewed IMO, so it it will need few minutes to be processed.
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and lastly I’m sure that once their representatives see this comment they’ll step in to explain their side of the story.
Unfortunately the rep account is not active in the forum anymore, but the good news is they haven't had any major issues so far.
^ I don't think so, I have a little bit of research on the scam accusation board and it seems there are too many threads that appear regarding cloudbet reputation. Usually and the common problem is that they don't read first the ToS of the casino and they commit a violation and then now, blame the casino because they are a scam. I don't know Cloudbet because I never played their gambling casino but I think the problem is that the Tos should be read.
Probably OP needs to extend here/his patient right now.
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I have gambled regularly in Cloudbet before and I have never encountered any problems in my withdrawals. We cannot be certain if those bad reviews came from reputable sources and we should not assume that Cloudbet is doing this without a valid reason for suspicions on user activity. There are other sportsbooks and gambling services in the cryptospace if you do not feel safe, however.
It looks like he managed to see his funds, thus deleting the complaint instead of just giving a positive update. There were times when there were slightly slow withdrawal processing times on Cloudbet especially during weekends, but they always got processed after some hours.

and lastly I’m sure that once their representatives see this comment they’ll step in to explain their side of the story.
Unfortunately the rep account is not active in the forum anymore, but the good news is they haven't had any major issues so far.
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How are the withdrawal times at cloudbet these days?

Made first withdrawal via ETH to test the speed, its not instant as it says on the site that most withdrawals are instant, i can still see the cancel button.

Read some bad reviews but still gave it a go, hopefully will receive withdrawal soon and dont have to wait few days or some bs.

Anyone had recent experience with their withdrawal speed?

I used crypto only and amount is not too big, like 300$ only.

Thanks

I have gambled regularly in Cloudbet before and I have never encountered any problems in my withdrawals. We cannot be certain if those bad reviews came from reputable sources and we should not assume that Cloudbet is doing this without a valid reason for suspicions on user activity. There are other sportsbooks and gambling services in the cryptospace if you do not feel safe, however.

@gowinb0t1 did you first check with the support, if yes what did they say but if you have not approached them then do it now as they’re the best people to guide you. @bbc.reporter I believe that Cloudbet came back with a clean slate and they have been doing a good job since then, and lastly I’m sure that once their representatives see this comment they’ll step in to explain their side of the story.

Based on my experience, Cloudbet does not process withdrawals instantly like other sites.

In this review, it says withdrawals are processed within 24 hours.
https://www.covers.com/betting/reviews/cloudbet

Now, if it already exceed 24 hours, then that's the time you have to worry.
hero member
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How are the withdrawal times at cloudbet these days?

Made first withdrawal via ETH to test the speed, its not instant as it says on the site that most withdrawals are instant, i can still see the cancel button.

Read some bad reviews but still gave it a go, hopefully will receive withdrawal soon and dont have to wait few days or some bs.

Anyone had recent experience with their withdrawal speed?

I used crypto only and amount is not too big, like 300$ only.

Thanks

I have gambled regularly in Cloudbet before and I have never encountered any problems in my withdrawals. We cannot be certain if those bad reviews came from reputable sources and we should not assume that Cloudbet is doing this without a valid reason for suspicions on user activity. There are other sportsbooks and gambling services in the cryptospace if you do not feel safe, however.

@gowinb0t1 did you first check with the support, if yes what did they say but if you have not approached them then do it now as they’re the best people to guide you. @bbc.reporter I believe that Cloudbet came back with a clean slate and they have been doing a good job since then, and lastly I’m sure that once their representatives see this comment they’ll step in to explain their side of the story.
legendary
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How are the withdrawal times at cloudbet these days?

Made first withdrawal via ETH to test the speed, its not instant as it says on the site that most withdrawals are instant, i can still see the cancel button.

Read some bad reviews but still gave it a go, hopefully will receive withdrawal soon and dont have to wait few days or some bs.

Anyone had recent experience with their withdrawal speed?

I used crypto only and amount is not too big, like 300$ only.

Thanks

I have gambled regularly in Cloudbet before and I have never encountered any problems in my withdrawals. We cannot be certain if those bad reviews came from reputable sources and we should not assume that Cloudbet is doing this without a valid reason for suspicions on user activity. There are other sportsbooks and gambling services in the cryptospace if you do not feel safe, however.
legendary
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It is reasonable to see Italian governments did it after 2006, the year of Calciopoli. Anyway, thank you for all your answers that help me to understand more about regulation on gambling sites in Italy.  Grin 

Haha complete nonsense. this place is full of illiterates  Grin



I went to check.
The rules every website has to comply to in order to offer their services in Italy date back to 2001, and were enforced in 2002.
The Italian ISP’s were forced to blacklist any non compliant website on the Italian territory since 2006.
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It is reasonable to see Italian governments did it after 2006, the year of Calciopoli. Anyway, thank you for all your answers that help me to understand more about regulation on gambling sites in Italy.  Grin 

Haha complete nonsense. this place is full of illiterates  Grin

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Cloudbet is one of the few sites where you can still gamble on the site in many countries, where you are blocked at other sites. The conditions list a number of countries that are not allowed, but these are not exceptions. I have seen that the offer at Cloudbet is not bad either, only they could do something about the maximum limits to bet on sports betting for example. We already have enough casinos. And Cloudbet is also one of the oldest sites active here on the forum, isn't it?
However you must know of their rules well enough. What are restricted areas? Do they accept VPN when you create account and play games? If your country is not allowed by Cloudbet, you should not try to pass through their restricted mechanism, as if you do so, when you win, you will not be paid. Don't try to do things that are not allowed and come back here with invalid scam accusations.

In the past, I read and knew that Cloudbet did right things and they have good history about it.

I can’t exactly remember, but it’s a long time.
I guess is later than 2006 thou, as I used a few gambling website that aren’t allowed anymore.
(Yeah, government as usual is very picky on the exchange he allows to operate.
It is reasonable to see Italian governments did it after 2006, the year of Calciopoli. Anyway, thank you for all your answers that help me to understand more about regulation on gambling sites in Italy.

Cloudbet is once again active here, and that’s why user’s are returning to the site because once Ronnie had stopped posting there was not much activity in this ANN?. Also I expect them to do more for premier league and other football matches going ahead since they’re back here, but we’ll have to wait and see as to what kind of promos they will launch because the football season is going to start in August only.
They stopped their signature campaign that causes less posts in this thread. They did not run special promotion for Bitcointalk community members. It does not drop only because Ronnie is less actively recent months.

Good to see Cloudbet team return to more activities on the forum, begins with their signature campaign managed by a new manager, icopress, not Hhampuz.
hero member
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Cloudbet is one of the few sites where you can still gamble on the site in many countries, where you are blocked at other sites. The conditions list a number of countries that are not allowed, but these are not exceptions. I have seen that the offer at Cloudbet is not bad either, only they could do something about the maximum limits to bet on sports betting for example. We already have enough casinos. And Cloudbet is also one of the oldest sites active here on the forum, isn't it?

@BitcoinAccepted Cloudbet is once again active here, and that’s why user’s are returning to the site because once Ronnie had stopped posting there was not much activity in this ANN?. Also I expect them to do more for premier league and other football matches going ahead since they’re back here, but we’ll have to wait and see as to what kind of promos they will launch because the football season is going to start in August only.
legendary
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Cloudbet is one of the few sites where you can still gamble on the site in many countries, where you are blocked at other sites. The conditions list a number of countries that are not allowed, but these are not exceptions. I have seen that the offer at Cloudbet is not bad either, only they could do something about the maximum limits to bet on sports betting for example. We already have enough casinos. And Cloudbet is also one of the oldest sites active here on the forum, isn't it?
legendary
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Please correct me if I am wrong with my guess.


I can’t exactly remember, but it’s a long time.
I guess is later than 2006 thou, as I used a few gambling website that aren’t allowed anymore.
(Yeah, government as usual is very picky on the exchange he allows to operate.
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Every gambling website selling services to Italian customers must be specifically authorised and monitored by Italian government.
You must abide to a series of regulations and certifications, otherwise, it’s ban.
Basically, all gambling sites are blocked by default, and you get to obtain this authorisation in order to make your website visible.
How long have these regulation, authorization been in practice? Your post reminds me about Calciopoli in 2006. Were such strict regulations implemented after Calciopoli?
I guess it is very likely because it is reasonable to enforce stricter regulations after that big event.

Please correct me if I am wrong with my guess.

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We know many sad story about VPN used on gambling while used it to the user as an excused to freeze there account in the event that they win a jackpot or huge prize. This might a violation of country policy against online gambling if you are dodging the restrictions by using VPN to access casino.
This can only be a problem if Cloudbet decided to restrict Italian Citizens like it has done with Citizens from the US, but as of now Italian Citizen can still use their gambling site.

IF any form of verification comes up, users can still verify as Italian Citizens and I believe things could still go on well because they are not yet banned by the casino.
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How did it happen?

I think like gambling is very common in Europe and many European countries are opened with gambling industry. Is there change in Italian regulations against Cryptocurrency and gambling industry that I did not know?


Every gambling website selling services to Italian customers must be specifically authorised and monitored by Italian government.
You must abide to a series of regulations and certifications, otherwise, it’s ban.
Basically, all gambling sites are blocked by default, and you get to obtain this authorisation in order to make your website visible.

Welcome to Italy!

this law exists in all European countries, and already in many countries around the world.for example, Cloudbet has cheated many people and they have no protection, while in European countries people have legal protection
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