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Quote from: Kenyoukillme on October 03, 2022, 04:33:44 AM

I’m looking at reviews of cloudbet on trustpilot and there’s a lot of people that have my issue . So I assume I won’t get my 10k withdrawal.

after I saw your post I also went to see the review on trustpilot and I confess that I am shocked with so many complaints, this is not a good thing and it is definitely something scary, the complaints start from September 1st to today, it had 9 complaints, I don't know if all or at least part of them has been resolved or not, but I haven't seen them responding on trustpilot then it's something to worry about. For your case I suggest you do the following:

- send PM to @Cloudbet

the guy hasn't been active since the 16th of March, but you have to send him a PM and if 7 days pass without your problem being resolved then you should open a scam accusation

Quote from: LEVSKI7 on October 03, 2022, 07:19:15 AM

Tip the lawyer after winning the case Wink

Is the lawyer able to refuse the case even if they give him a lot of money because he won't be able to find where the casino's headquarters are to start the criminal process

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I got in touch with a Cloudbet representative. Wink

Any disputes or inquiries will only be handled through their official email address.

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[email protected]

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My comment is not aimed in the direction of Cloudbet but is rather generic in that there is definitely a case to what you stated because those casinos that have a history going back years with positive reputation, reviews and feedback will try their best to keep themselves away from controversy. There are others on the flip side that could get a licence (or simply buy one) and trade for a while before selectively scamming users en-route to mass scamming and an exit strategy.

If I were to hazard a guess, I would be more inclined to believe newer casinos would be more likely to do it whereas established casinos would be less likely.

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Still, I think we need to pay more attention not to the casino license, but to how long it works on the market. Reputation is important for a casino, and if a casino works for a long time, then it tries to do everything honestly in order to preserve its reputation.

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Quote from: Kenyoukillme on October 03, 2022, 04:07:22 AM

Hi Guys!

I’m new here so not sure if this is the right place to post this but I have been using cloudbet recently and I have a KYC request. Looking online I can see that many people never get their account back and was just wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like this?

I can’t get into my account anymore

Thanks all

99% of the account that didn’t get back are from the users who abused the casino promotion. I’m sure cloudbet email you about the reason for requiring you to KYC. You can have your account back if you comply with there KYC requirements. They just have a unique KYC method as reported by other user here but you will surely recover your account once you complete the KYC.

Will you mind share the cloudbet email about the details of your account issue? Use imgur to upload screenshot and share it here.

Thank you! I didn’t even use any promotions so I think I’m okay with that. I’ll look on the thread to try and see Other peoples experiences of this. Do you know how long it usually takes?

https://imgur.com/a/CiwnzH0

(I think I did the Imgur wrong)

I’m looking at reviews of cloudbet on trustpilot and there’s a lot of people that have my issue . So I assume I won’t get my 10k withdrawal .

I will tip anyone that helps me get my money back

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Hi Guys!

I’m new here so not sure if this is the right place to post this but I have been using cloudbet recently and I have a KYC request. Looking online I can see that many people never get their account back and was just wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like this?

I can’t get into my account anymore

Thanks all

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You need to get used to the fact that cryptocurrency will soon be fully regulated and licenses will be needed for everything, both for exchanges and for casinos.

Now all major exchanges have regulatory licenses. It's the same with the casino. If a casino wants to work for a long time and have a lot of customers, it needs licenses.

For casinos, the license is more aim at obtain legal status and protect the rights contain therein
Like Cloudbet for example, they are register as a crypto casino with the Curacao License
In addition, the purpose of licensing can also increase user confidence in the casino. And stay committed to consistently providing a proven fair play experience

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Sunglasses, a cup and scarf covering your face will not help you, because you can't hide all your life. Cameras are everywhere.

Even deep in a village in Nicaragua or a desert in Kuwait?

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Another thing is, as long as you don't spend a lot, no one is interested. The same goes for the casino, as long as you lose or win small amounts, you are not interesting to anyone and there is no point in following you.

Not so long ago, I saw someone complaining about getting asked KYC for something less than $100

Quote from: Garsipop on October 02, 2022, 09:59:35 AM

But new services keep popping up every day, and they seem to know what crypto users like which is privacy or anonymity so that time may never come. If it was a case where
New services appear and disappear. Only the best of them remain, and in order to work for a long time and confidently, they need regulation, licenses and KYC.

Point is, new services will always be there. Even the old ones were once new and never needed mandatory KYC until after some time.

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Quote from: logfiles on September 29, 2022, 04:10:23 PM

But new services keep popping up every day, and they seem to know what crypto users like which is privacy or anonymity so that time may never come. If it was a case where there were no new services being opened, then today we wouldn't have any new exchanges or casinos with relaxed KYC verifications.

New services appear and disappear. Only the best of them remain, and in order to work for a long time and confidently, they need regulation, licenses and KYC.

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from where I come from, even if I won $1M from an online casino and let say i managed to withdraw and passed the KYC, the state wouldn't even be able to know that I won that much let alone tax it Grin

So again, what was the point of me passing the KYC again? From the state's side, nothing!
From the casino's side, maybe there's a reason... multi accounting, playing from restricted jurisdictions etc.

That the KYC function is only for gambling platform internal factors and even though we have more gambling accounts on different platforms, each account is required to complete KYC verification. So the KYC function is not even related to different platforms let alone countries, if for example the platform deducts tax fees from jackpot winnings but maybe there is no tax report to that country, so they just deduct the jackpot winnings for tax reasons.

It is believed that KYC is needed in order to prevent fraud. After all, a person who has passed KYC will not cheat. On the other hand, KYC can also be fraudulent if a person wants to specifically and professionally cheat a casino or an exchange.

Yeah, This is dangerous for those user that selling there verified gambling account in the market. I saw many users before that selling this kind of accounts and most probably it was hacked account. Worst scenario was your KYC account got hacked and used to cheat in the casino while you have the ID for the casino to trace and sue you for the violations that scammer did. This is what I’m avoiding too on submitting my KYC on casino.

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So the problem is that soon there will be no exchanges without KYC and users will have to pass KYC on all exchanges. The same goes for the casino. Only very small exchanges and casinos with low liquidity or outright scammers will leave.

But new services keep popping up every day, and they seem to know what crypto users like which is privacy or anonymity so that time may never come. If it was a case where there were no new services being opened, then today we wouldn't have any new exchanges or casinos with relaxed KYC verifications.

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Quote from: logfiles on September 28, 2022, 04:23:24 PM

from where I come from, even if I won $1M from an online casino and let say i managed to withdraw and passed the KYC, the state wouldn't even be able to know that I won that much let alone tax it Grin

So again, what was the point of me passing the KYC again? From the state's side, nothing!
From the casino's side, maybe there's a reason... multi accounting, playing from restricted jurisdictions etc.

That the KYC function is only for gambling platform internal factors and even though we have more gambling accounts on different platforms, each account is required to complete KYC verification. So the KYC function is not even related to different platforms let alone countries, if for example the platform deducts tax fees from jackpot winnings but maybe there is no tax report to that country, so they just deduct the jackpot winnings for tax reasons.

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Privacy is getting smaller and smaller, and there are more and more cameras on the streets.

This is nothing. Anyone can see your face every day anyway unless if you move Sun glasses, a cap and scarf covering your face. The privacy I am talking about are those small extra details about you that everybody shouldn't know about you.

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Anonymity has no place left.

Why not

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The state is very interested in our income, since taxes are paid from all income. Therefore, the passing KYC in the casino is mandatory.

from where I come from, even if I won $1M from an online casino and let say i managed to withdraw and passed the KYC, the state wouldn't even be able to know that I won that much let alone tax it Grin

So again, what was the point of me passing the KYC again? From the state's side, nothing!
From the casino's side, maybe there's a reason... multi accounting, playing from restricted jurisdictions etc.

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you must be joking. there are countries where gambling income is not taxed. and how will you pay tax after playing illegal gambling with curacao license.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 25, 2022, 11:09:20 AM

Quote from: Wapfika on September 11, 2022, 08:53:13 AM

The Curacao license is the most popular because it has a much easier requirements and very convenient to get in able for your casino legally operate on many countries that there license is valid. Curacao is one of the early license provider on crypto gambling business that’s why it was the best choice for crypto casino. There’s other license provider but they have a very limited country scope which is not practical at all.

Curacao KYC is now adjusting based on the casino country origin because there license scope varies per country judicial rules about online casino.

You are right, in fact many casinos the first licenses they look for is the Curacao license and they are very well accepted, when counting the casinos on the forum, most of them have it, so it is the most accepted and I think all members of the forum think similarly, I don't know, but talking about this license is because there are many things that may be missing to learn, I know that some do not like the license, because it usually presents some restrictions to some pa'piss in common, it is something that I do not agree with but those are their regulations, the truth is that I do not understand either, because nobody should be prohibited when it comes to games.

That is not a license that I trust to be fair, and that's not the reason why I trust places. Like for example let's take Cloudbet into consideration here, when we are talking about here, I trust cloudbet more than I trust curacao license, which means that if they didn't have it, nothing would change for me.

Places shouldn't really go for licenses directly, they would need to first gain the trust of the people, and license is not a way of doing it, time is. If you are a casino for a long time and never have anyone complaining about you then you are going to be fine. Cloudbet is awesome and they will keep being awesome with whatever license they have or not have.

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Yes, but the Curaçao regulator has no other activity than collecting license fees :Dand if you complain to an institution in your country, the most they can fine you is for playing on an illegal site Grin

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Quote from: Slow death on September 25, 2022, 01:34:47 AM

I passed the scam section and came across this sad and regrettable situation:

Cloudbet - Asked for verification and blocked account.

It's been 1 month since this guy is waiting for a solution, this way of working is shameful, I can't believe it takes 1 month for an account to be investigated, what's happening with this casino? Could it be that there are thousands of customers with the same problem and a lack of employees in the investigation department to the point that someone has to wait 1 month to see their problem resolved? if this is the case then write on the ANN Thread that they have already exhausted their customer service capacity and that for this reason they cannot accept new users, because this guy has been waiting for your response for 1 month and this is not a good way to work.

This is happening on most of the casino even trusted one because they are not prioritizing this kind of investigation over there operation. They usually taking things slowly so that they can give an accurate result that will be fair for players and to them. 1 month is really long for this kind of investigation and cloudbet should give a conclusion already because this is already enough time to check single account especially that this issue was reported publicly that might hurt there reputation.

Cloudbet is not active so it’s very hard to raise a concern from here without there representative being active here.

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Quote from: Wapfika on September 11, 2022, 08:53:13 AM

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Quote from: cryptoexchanger.org on September 09, 2022, 04:43:04 AM

I think Cloudbet are licensed anyway, you can see it at the bottom of their homepage. I think they're licensed in Curacao? This probably means that they need to follow the requirements of the regulator which means including KYC in their process.

I would always choose a casino that performs KYC anyway, it means they don't cheat their players

I don't know too much about curacao licensing, but i do know that a lot of popular casinos are licensed there.

The Curacao license is the most popular because it has a much easier requirements and very convenient to get in able for your casino legally operate on many countries that there license is valid. Curacao is one of the early license provider on crypto gambling business that’s why it was the best choice for crypto casino. There’s other license provider but they have a very limited country scope which is not practical at all.

Curacao KYC is now adjusting based on the casino country origin because there license scope varies per country judicial rules about online casino.

You are right, in fact many casinos the first licenses they look for is the Curacao license and they are very well accepted, when counting the casinos on the forum, most of them have it, so it is the most accepted and I think all members of the forum think similarly, I don't know, but talking about this license is because there are many things that may be missing to learn, I know that some do not like the license, because it usually presents some restrictions to some pa'piss in common, it is something that I do not agree with but those are their regulations, the truth is that I do not understand either, because nobody should be prohibited when it comes to games.

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I passed the scam section and came across this sad and regrettable situation:

Cloudbet - Asked for verification and blocked account.

It's been 1 month since this guy is waiting for a solution, this way of working is shameful, I can't believe it takes 1 month for an account to be investigated, what's happening with this casino? Could it be that there are thousands of customers with the same problem and a lack of employees in the investigation department to the point that someone has to wait 1 month to see their problem resolved? if this is the case then write on the ANN Thread that they have already exhausted their customer service capacity and that for this reason they cannot accept new users, because this guy has been waiting for your response for 1 month and this is not a good way to work.

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Previously, cryptocurrency exchanges were anonymous, but the more regulated the cryptocurrency becomes and the more people use it, the less anonymous the exchanges become. The same goes for the casino. The more regulated casinos are, the less anonymous they are.

I don't think this is entirely true. For example, Bitmex was more popular as a derivatives exchange before they introduced mandatory KYC. You would say when they introduced mandatory KYC for all their customers, they became compliant and fully regulated. Many traders abandoned for less strict exchanges.

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