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legendary
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I don't agree with this. There are many reputable sources where you can find honest, reliable reviews that can help guide you towards choosing the right casino games, without feeling like you're being duped by some phony review site. Since it's always best to be a smart player and read reviews before taking a chance on a particular casino, it's important to know where to look for helpful information. In other words, do an appropriate amount of analysis before deciding to trust a review source. Anyone could have a professional-looking site and print any kind of content that they want. You should consider how trustworthy the source is, how true or foul the content is, and whether or not anyone is being paid to provide biased information, so you can judge what you read using critical thinking. Once you know what to look for, it should be easier to pick those sites that are most likely to be helpful to your own analysis of online casinos.


Any reviews can be bought and sold, so first of all you need to study where these reviews are published. But even in a trusted source there may be purchased or paid reviews, it's just harder to make them. Therefore, there will be fewer such paid reviews.

Because of this three paid reviews scheme, I just started to believe in the negative reviews that talk about the site, for example if I want to create an account on a certain site and I go to google to do research to use the site then I start to prioritize seeing negative comments about the site, if I can't find negative comments about the site, then the next step is to come here on the forum to search for the site and if I can't find the site here on the forum then I'll create a thread in the appropriate section where I'll ask if anyone has used the site, and if someone appears telling me that they have already used the site and that the site is safe then I create an account but I do not put much money on the site and I do not save money on the site, because I do not trust the site but as it is an emergency and the only site so I would be using the site with caution, people have to use reliable casinos


That's right, almost all casinos already require KYC and this is something that will continue to be required, and the terms and conditions that will be made will be to see how authentic the person is and if they did not commit fraud with their documents or something, I think that is one of the reasons why KYC is required when a withdrawal will be made, which I find sometimes a bit annoying, but when looking at it from a point of view focused on player security, it is good, because If you enter your account, they hack it and make withdrawals only with the input data, it is something that can happen, it has happened to me that one day they did it because they did not have a 2FA security layer.

KYC is a protection for both the casino and its users. No one will cheat after passing KYC, since the casino knows his name. At the same time, regulation and KYC protect the players. If the casino deceives the player, then the player can complain to the regulator, specifying his personal data and the regulator can check everything whether the player is actually right.
Yes, I understand your point, it is logical to think like this, however, we must also take into account that despite the fact that KYC can have all these advantages in a possible attack and all the data that is available to a hacker is very dangerous, identifications would be obtained , exact locations of where each person lives, the amount of their operations is there, amount of money and crypto that is handled, and now criminals handle a lot of information, they are more intelligent and know a lot about computers, they make use of the tools technology for your good, then that is a problem and that is why there is so much discussion on the subject.


the worst part is when the criminal takes people's documents and sells it on the black market and on the black market another criminal buys the document and commits a crime on behalf of the person who is in the document, then the police when investigating starts looking for the person in the document and it is difficult for the person with the document to prove that he was not the author of the crime
newbie
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Does Cloudbet limit players?

Since last week some times it fails when I place a bet. Initialy there is an amount in the max bet field, and when tryiing to place a bet under that amount it fails, and the maxbet amount changes down a lot.
Never had this problem before.

Regards
hero member
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Any reviews can be bought and sold, so first of all you need to study where these reviews are published. But even in a trusted source there may be purchased or paid reviews, it's just harder to make them. Therefore, there will be fewer such paid reviews.

That's true, but I was responding to Lunafox, specifically the part where he states that "it is useless to check casino reviews" which I strongly disagree with. While some reviews can be biased and/or poorly written, they're much better than no information at all. And in the very least, they give us a first impression of each online betting site before we do anything else. You should still be doing a lot of your own research, checking things like the overall reputation of the site in question, their licensing and regulation status and if they're offering games from reputable software providers.
legendary
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That's right, almost all casinos already require KYC and this is something that will continue to be required, and the terms and conditions that will be made will be to see how authentic the person is and if they did not commit fraud with their documents or something, I think that is one of the reasons why KYC is required when a withdrawal will be made, which I find sometimes a bit annoying, but when looking at it from a point of view focused on player security, it is good, because If you enter your account, they hack it and make withdrawals only with the input data, it is something that can happen, it has happened to me that one day they did it because they did not have a 2FA security layer.

KYC is a protection for both the casino and its users. No one will cheat after passing KYC, since the casino knows his name. At the same time, regulation and KYC protect the players. If the casino deceives the player, then the player can complain to the regulator, specifying his personal data and the regulator can check everything whether the player is actually right.
Yes, I understand your point, it is logical to think like this, however, we must also take into account that despite the fact that KYC can have all these advantages in a possible attack and all the data that is available to a hacker is very dangerous, identifications would be obtained , exact locations of where each person lives, the amount of their operations is there, amount of money and crypto that is handled, and now criminals handle a lot of information, they are more intelligent and know a lot about computers, they make use of the tools technology for your good, then that is a problem and that is why there is so much discussion on the subject.
newbie
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The casino is interested in new users, so it does everything possible so that the KYC procedure can be passed easily and quickly.

If the user honestly works with the casino, he should have no problems with either passing KYC or withdrawing funds.

The fact that Cloudbet has been operating since 2013 already indicates that the casino is trying to work honestly and is doing everything possible to solve problems with customers.
hero member
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You need to get used to the fact that cryptocurrency will soon be fully regulated and licenses will be needed for everything, both for exchanges and nos.

I strongly don't agree with this very statement of yours, because thou cryptocurrency is partly regulated today by big exchanges and online casinos, but i doubt if it can be fully regulated in time soon, coupled with the decentralized nature of Bitcoin and its anonymous inventor "Satoshi" who up till today never seen before, because with the help of decentralized exchanges "e.g Bisq" and cold wallets which enable us to buy, sell and trade cryptocurrency, people can equally use this while bypassing regulated centralized medium

Cryptocurrency is becoming more centralized and KYC is already becoming a permanent practice. There are DeFi projects where there is no KYC, but centralized projects with KYC retain high popularity and a large number of users.

This is because centralized casino still offer the best benefits and tournaments rewards compared to decentralized casino. Also there is only few decentralized casino that popular at this point that’s why crypto gambler still choose centralized casino since decentralized casino is not yet booming. Soon crypto user will decentralized casino once KYC becomes mandatory on all centralize casino. So far there are still some casino that doesn't require KYC which is why decentralize is still not the preferred choice of gamblers.
hero member
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Now there are a lot of fraudulent casinos, so before playing at a casino you need to check its reputation, license, and how long the casino has been operating, as well as reviews about the casino.

It is useless to check casino reviews, since you can order any reviews, both positive reviews about the casino and that the casino deceives people. Negative reviews can be ordered by competitors.

I don't agree with this. There are many reputable sources where you can find honest, reliable reviews that can help guide you towards choosing the right casino games, without feeling like you're being duped by some phony review site. Since it's always best to be a smart player and read reviews before taking a chance on a particular casino, it's important to know where to look for helpful information. In other words, do an appropriate amount of analysis before deciding to trust a review source. Anyone could have a professional-looking site and print any kind of content that they want. You should consider how trustworthy the source is, how true or foul the content is, and whether or not anyone is being paid to provide biased information, so you can judge what you read using critical thinking. Once you know what to look for, it should be easier to pick those sites that are most likely to be helpful to your own analysis of online casinos.
hero member
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A bit of a lag when I just opened the site in the post. Maybe because on the start page there are some videos, which makes my computer a bit laggy.

Maybe it's just your internet connection. Tried opening mine and the website interface showed quickly. I even tried it to access on my phone and it just works fine even if at mobile data.

Cloudbet's been running many years now. It's the first website I get to know way back 2018 in terms of sports booking. Their website improved a lot since then, they now offer some casino games unlike before that you can only bet on sports matches.
copper member
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A bit of a lag when I just opened the site in the post. Maybe because on the start page there are some videos, which makes my computer a bit laggy.
You mean this link?

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I tried loading it on my Firefox, and it took less than 5 seconds to load. Maybe there's a problem with your device, internet provider or browser.

newbie
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Hello again,

They informed me from live support that I can make a withdraw my money. I passed the investigation on my account like I thought I did not anything wrong.

Now I am waiting to receive my money.

Thanks for all answers
full member
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Welcome to Cloudbet,




A bit of a lag when I just opened the site in the post. Maybe because on the start page there are some videos, which makes my computer a bit laggy.
newbie
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Actually I am full confident about my account. Just happening this make me sick Because I did not wrong anything. The problem is they did not give me exact time of period.

From this I understand They can hold me maybe a month, maybe even a year.

They send me money also after 1st KYC. I thought Ok there is no problem anymore. But it still a problem.

I think I also won bets that interval They paused me or they want me to play and loose those money. Actually I played like 1-2 hours ago First it went bad then I won and there is addition 2000 USDT.

By the way I did not play casino only sportsbetting.

I did not broke their ToS. I can show to anyone my bets.

Also I did broke their ToS, They wouldnt let me take 30.000 USDT yesterday.

Those all things make me confused.

Is there anyone know that how much time they do investigation generally ?
legendary
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Then I requested again 40.000 USDT. It rejected by them agian When I reached out to live support They told me there is an investigation on my account. And they told me I have to wait to finish it.

But they cannot me provide a time period, or exact time. Only thing they aer saying is I have to wait.
If they told you there is investigation on your account and you should wait, why you are hurry too much?

Just wait for result and their answer about investigation. Honestly, mostly when a casino starts investigation, they already have data in hands and you are in troubles. However it is still too soon to conclude anything and I think you should wait patiently for their answer.

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On my account there is nothing wrong. I played live games. I played over goal bets on soccer and tennis break game mostly.

There is not also late bet. Also it is impossible to do on my account because 20-30 secs pass to accept my bets on Cloudbet.
It is only what you wrote and needs to be confirmed by Cloudbet.

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I sent a email to [email protected]. But they did not answer.
They told you to wait.

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Balance is 57.000 USDT. I cannot withdraw that money right now,
If investigation concludes that you broke their ToS, you will not be able to withdraw it.
newbie
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Hello all,

I have been playing on Cloudbet. Lots of transactions are made. I lost, I won. But never my withdraws was rejected. On Wednesday they requested me to do KYC on website. I have done it in 15 mins. After that I made succesfull withdraw 30.000 USDT. Then I played on live games again I won and my account reached to 55.000 USDT. I requested to withdraw 40.000 USDT but they rejected.

Then I got contact with live support They told me that I have to do KYC. But I told him I have already done it on website. Then they sent me email, 3 part of documents they asked me same like on others on this forum. Also I have sent them in 30 mins.

Then I requested again 40.000 USDT. It rejected by them agian When I reached out to live support They told me there is an investigation on my account. And they told me I have to wait to finish it.

But they cannot me provide a time period, or exact time. Only thing they aer saying is I have to wait.

On my account there is nothing wrong. I played live games. I played over goal bets on soccer and tennis break game mostly.

There is not also late bet. Also it is impossible to do on my account because 20-30 secs pass to accept my bets on Cloudbet.

I sent a email to [email protected]. But they did not answer.

What should I do right now ?

Balance is 57.000 USDT. I cannot withdraw that money right now,

Please guide me
hero member
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You need to get used to the fact that cryptocurrency will soon be fully regulated and licenses will be needed for everything, both for exchanges and nos.

I strongly don't agree with this very statement of yours, because thou cryptocurrency is partly regulated today by big exchanges and online casinos, but i doubt if it can be fully regulated in time soon, coupled with the decentralized nature of Bitcoin and its anonymous inventor "Satoshi" who up till today never seen before, because with the help of decentralized exchanges "e.g Bisq" and cold wallets which enable us to buy, sell and trade cryptocurrency, people can equally use this while bypassing regulated centralized medium
legendary
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Yeah, This is dangerous for those user that selling there verified gambling account in the market. I saw many users before that selling this kind of accounts and most probably it was hacked account. Worst scenario was your KYC account got hacked and used to cheat in the casino while you have the ID for the casino to trace and sue you for the violations that scammer did. This is what I’m avoiding too on submitting my KYC on casino.
Due to hacked accounts and fraudulent users, the casinos themselves suffer. After all, if a player has conceived fraud, then even despite the presence of KYC, he will use a fraudulent or hacked account.
On any forms of business, there will always be abusers like that but business owners can do something to stop them. If it's an online casino then they can increase their website's security and they can also enforce a KYC to intimidate those who will try to abuse their sites but if ever the abusers insist to and they are caught out, it will be easier for the casino to trace them.

Some criminals will just hack someone's account that are verified already by a KYC and they will use it for their exploits. Problems like this will be solved out easily if a user who got hacked will cooperate on the casinos immediately and then the casino will freeze their accounts.
copper member
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My account is "closed" and the funds are frozen despite the fact that I was told I could withdraw the funds in my account. Yet, it's been three days and Cloudbet has not allowed me to withdraw my funds.

My account is "Esmeallday." Please can someone help me.

Have you been in touch with them through their support email? If not, then it's worth trying

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Nobody can really help you here unblock the account except the Cloudbet team. Make sure you update as on the progress because they seem to be having lots of complaints lately.
legendary
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My comment is not aimed in the direction of Cloudbet but is rather generic in that there is definitely a case to what you stated because those casinos that have a history going back years with positive reputation, reviews and feedback will try their best to keep themselves away from controversy. There are others on the flip side that could get a licence (or simply buy one) and trade for a while before selectively scamming users en-route to mass scamming and an exit strategy.

If I were to hazard a guess, I would be more inclined to believe newer casinos would be more likely to do it whereas established casinos would be less likely.

Still, I think we need to pay more attention not to the casino license, but to how long it works on the market. Reputation is important for a casino, and if a casino works for a long time, then it tries to do everything honestly in order to preserve its reputation.

If the casino values its reputation, it will do everything possible to preserve and maintain this reputation. It is very important that the casino is as transparent as possible in order to increase the trust of users and players.

Transparent on what? I think they privately made the investigation on the flag accounts so that those abuser will not get any idea on how to avoid them. So I guess its really good to wait for the investigation to bw done if there it since for sure the old casino which I think still running good will not ruin their build reputation.
newbie
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My account is "closed" and the funds are frozen despite the fact that I was told I could withdraw the funds in my account. Yet, it's been three days and Cloudbet has not allowed me to withdraw my funds.

My account is "Esmeallday." Please can someone help me.
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I’m looking at reviews of cloudbet on trustpilot and there’s a lot of people that have my issue . So I assume I won’t get my 10k withdrawal .
There is no need to panic if you did nothing wrong. I think the KYC check is their normal procedure given that it's even talked about in their terms of service. Just do as instructed, pass the KYC verification and I believe they will let you withdraw the money

There's a case that I closely followed where a user's account was unblocked, and he got back his money even when he had made a deposit from a banned Country. Of course, they had to be lenient because the User didn't want to undergo KYC verification and the amount wasn't that much.
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