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OP is inactive in the forum since last 7 months. Therefore, don't expect any response from him regarding this matter. I have read the posts of those users. Most of the posts were off topic (not related to Cloudbet services). I had reported around 50 posts yesterday, and all those posts were deleted by the moderators. I have reported few more posts today. Hopefully moderators will delete them too. They weren't praising about Cloudbet services. They would do it if Cloudbet hired them to shill in this thread.

You can't prove it. The best course of action you can do is to report the posts that you think are spam. It takes only few clicks.

Cloudbet should answer this because hiring shill cannot give any positive output on them but instead people will doubt about their intentions for doing this. They are old casino so they should know the consequences of the actions towards this and if many people will find out that they hired shills for sure this could bring them more criticism from people who doubt about their reputation.

I noticed the bump accounts, too, a while back. I am trying to compile the list and then report them. My current findings suggest it's an elaborate ring of scammers who have not only stopped at setting up scam projects or coins, but also shill other scam projects. The involved accounts are so many. We are looking at 60 plus shill accounts.

This would be ideal, but how could they do it? If it is no longer a problem on our part, it is on the sites,? In these cases, if the government or government entities decide to get involved in these things, governments should also respond when KYC is requested in a casino, and if the site is hacked, then the government should use all its resources to find them. criminals, perhaps working in this way could give many results, and people would be safer, so this is something that we put in context, for this we need many things, but I know that it is impossible for a government to get so involved, besides country that are not white sticks for wanting to help and "protect people."

Well, there is something that must be understood, for such an act to occur on the part of a casino, it is because they have probably found something out of the ordinary, perhaps something that does not add up, or something very suspicious, perhaps what they are looking for is clarify the activity of those accounts, there is no need to raise that type of accusations yet, perhaps by mail they will be able to say the reasons.

In every casino they are always interested in the activity of their players, they will never put people to lose them, a casino is done by their clients, their players, so I think there must be very good explanations for this, at least I think so.

Good catch, I hadn't paid much attention to those newbie users post before. I thought that those newbie users are making posts here for having problems with Cloudbet. But now it seems like they have a different intention. Perhaps, Cloudbet team hasn't hired them to spam in this thread. Those users are posting here to promote their tokens. All of them have created an ANN thread of a useless (probably scam) tokens. Their username is same with the tokens name. I will report those posts, hopefully moderators will take their action.

What's going on here? Does Cloudbet hire a bumping shills since there's a lot newbies with copper membership keep replying in this thread. I don't think those copper member-newbie rank accounts are just accidental, not many users are want to pay copper membership and you wouldn't see copper member-newbie rank accounts replying on the other thread except on Cloudbet.

I understand that dealing with cheaters is something very difficult because they create new accounts every day and try to cheat, but certain casinos have used their TOS as an argument for not allowing people to withdraw money that is on the site and when questioning the casino: why don't you post evidence that the user who was blocked and who is being accused of having too many accounts has too many accounts? the casino always says they can't show evidence because cheaters can see the security measures casinos use to catch cheaters


almost all people do this, the problem arises when the casino itself is a scam and they don't want to pay and they keep using arguments like using many accounts and then asking for KYC and then blocking the person, even here on the forum I saw many of these types of cases and they were few cases where the customer received the money


there are cases where the person deposits and then bets on a game and loses and gets frustrated and sad and decides to withdraw all the rest of the money that is in the casino, I believe that this happens to many people, so we cannot say that all people who make deposits and withdraw without making a lot of bets are laundering money, what you have to watch out for is if the person gambles regularly or does this kind of thing regularly and what are the deposit amounts

Abusers is not taking risk at all because they are just abusing the bonus and hope that they will not caught. In the event that they are caught, There original funds will be refund by the casino and just ban there account. They are just risking there KYC since it’s a requirements to recover there funds but since there’s many people especially on 3rd world country that willing to sell there KYC details in exchange for a penny. This scammer/abuser keeps coming back since they have unlimited source of ID for KYC verification.

This is the risk on the casino side by providing bonus to all new registered player. This is the reason too why KYC requirements is starting to become a mandatory on some casino.

What happens is that in these things many scenarios can occur, the first is that they can be hacked accounts and the person who was hacked has no reason to report it and leaves it like that, the other is that they sell their account to another person, and Obviously you do your misdeeds with all your apparent KYC, but this can be avoided in the case of a very large withdrawal, you can do as some protocols do in Binance, a quick KYC, that is, it can be a photo or a small video of verification that the person in front is actually the owner of that account, I think that is how they can protect an account, and unfortunately it is through KYC.


Uff, I mean, if I deposit, play and win, they don't allow me to withdraw my money? or if I deposit let's say 500usd and win 200usd they won't let me withdraw the 700usd? I am not against the lyeyes so that they catch the rogues, but come on, the big ones do not use the casinos to launder money, they do it in other ways, it will be for an apprentice who wants to do something like that, however I would not like to have one situation like this, because it is obvious that if I enter a casino and deposit, if I get my winnings and want to withdraw everything, that should not be considered money laundering and less with little money, if I would consider that a person deposits $1M and wants to withdraw it at once, but with not so high monotons it doesn't apply, or well it shouldn't.

You will face difficulties to make a withdrawal at 99% betting sites if you try to withdraw your deposited funds without placing any bets. You can't blame Cloudbet or any other casino for this. Casinos are really strict when it comes to money laundering activity. It just takes a few minutes to get the deposited funds in crypto casino account. You shouldn't access online casino if your decision changes within a few minutes gap. Your signature casino also has rollover requirements on deposit.

Wow, I have never encountered such and I am just getting to know about this for the first time, such an option is absolutely bullshit if you ask me, and using money laundering and mixing to excuse such option is another bullshit, peeps should be free do whatever they want with their money, why force me to gamble if I changed my mind  after depositing into your casino? Makes no sense to me....
If I know such casino, I will never use it, it's as simple as that.

even if the casino says they are safe, there is the problem that no one knows the identity of the casino owner, casino headquarters, so it is difficult to trust your documents to a completely anonymous person, this is sincerely unfair, as the casino owner is anonymous but customers can't be anonymous? when did curacao or someone government inspect a casino to check if they are compliant with KYC and if all people's documents are safe or not? I have never heard that curacao or any government has done inspections to see if the casino complies with KYC and if people's documents are safe or not. That's why I don't even understand why they ask for KYC

Hey mate,

I suggest you write to them a message to this email address ([email protected]). Their support is is no longer active here, and you probably won't get the answers you want in time from here.

Because of this three paid reviews scheme, I just started to believe in the negative reviews that talk about the site, for example if I want to create an account on a certain site and I go to google to do research to use the site then I start to prioritize seeing negative comments about the site, if I can't find negative comments about the site, then the next step is to come here on the forum to search for the site and if I can't find the site here on the forum then I'll create a thread in the appropriate section where I'll ask if anyone has used the site, and if someone appears telling me that they have already used the site and that the site is safe then I create an account but I do not put much money on the site and I do not save money on the site, because I do not trust the site but as it is an emergency and the only site so I would be using the site with caution, people have to use reliable casinos


the worst part is when the criminal takes people's documents and sells it on the black market and on the black market another criminal buys the document and commits a crime on behalf of the person who is in the document, then the police when investigating starts looking for the person in the document and it is difficult for the person with the document to prove that he was not the author of the crime

Does Cloudbet limit players?

Since last week some times it fails when I place a bet. Initialy there is an amount in the max bet field, and when tryiing to place a bet under that amount it fails, and the maxbet amount changes down a lot.
Never had this problem before.

Regards

That's true, but I was responding to Lunafox, specifically the part where he states that "it is useless to check casino reviews" which I strongly disagree with. While some reviews can be biased and/or poorly written, they're much better than no information at all. And in the very least, they give us a first impression of each online betting site before we do anything else. You should still be doing a lot of your own research, checking things like the overall reputation of the site in question, their licensing and regulation status and if they're offering games from reputable software providers.

Yes, I understand your point, it is logical to think like this, however, we must also take into account that despite the fact that KYC can have all these advantages in a possible attack and all the data that is available to a hacker is very dangerous, identifications would be obtained , exact locations of where each person lives, the amount of their operations is there, amount of money and crypto that is handled, and now criminals handle a lot of information, they are more intelligent and know a lot about computers, they make use of the tools technology for your good, then that is a problem and that is why there is so much discussion on the subject.

The fact that Cloudbet has been operating since 2013 already indicates that the casino is trying to work honestly and is doing everything possible to solve problems with customers.

This is because centralized casino still offer the best benefits and tournaments rewards compared to decentralized casino. Also there is only few decentralized casino that popular at this point that’s why crypto gambler still choose centralized casino since decentralized casino is not yet booming. Soon crypto user will decentralized casino once KYC becomes mandatory on all centralize casino. So far there are still some casino that doesn't require KYC which is why decentralize is still not the preferred choice of gamblers.