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Quote from: Plaguedeath on November 30, 2022, 01:12:38 AM

Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

Very true, as you said, the cockfighting gambling game is very sad because this can hurt innocent animals, we feel very guilty because we take advantage of animal suffering, in other countries animals are guarded but unfortunately in my country animals are made into people's gambling greedy, actually there are still very many legal gambling platforms that are legalized by the government, even though many people like cockfighting gambling but for me personally I am not at all interested in cockfighting gambling, the reason is because I don't want to see cocks die in vain, I I also really hope that the government can stop cockfighting gambling in my country.

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But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? Huh

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

Based on my experience my father really having fun with this game and he is the one make a condition with the cock fighters this thing has a lot of preparations like feeds, vitamins, vegetables, syrup and etc to increase the boost and capability of the chickens to make sure they are getting ready to the fight there's some different breed of it depends on the colour like red, orange, and white also wit their legs if this is white or brown and also you can see the body of the chicken is well good if you touch its wings, head, and under part of it and if the body is firm or not.

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Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

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In my country, there is a law of animal welfare, and against for animal cruelty such as horse and dog fight, but what, cock fighting is legal here. Only to those licensed cockpits in every sunday and some holidays.
Due to this is a huge business here and already part of the culture and tradition since many hundred years ago, i don't think if government will stop it or make a law against it since most politicians are only held to protect their businesses.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on November 29, 2022, 04:17:26 PM

Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

So basically the real life equivalent of pokemon. Except more brutal and less exciting. Not that I have anything against a digital version. Hell, why not just play Pokemon and fight Pokemon? It is basically the same thing and you don't need to kill chickens for it.

To answer your question, I think such a game cannot be installed in most casinos due to laws. But there are countries in which they could exist in casinos, I am sure. But they can definitely find a crowd in online casinos. But then again, that would just be Pokemon. Maybe that's the reason casinos do not include this in their gambling games?

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Many countries have laws against animal cruelty so an established casino is probably not going to be able to add cock fights for the same reason they cannot add dog fights, however there are many places that despite the fact such events are prohibited by the law they still organize them, as it is part of their traditions and the local authorities decide to not intervene as they also receive a cut from the organizers of the event.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on November 29, 2022, 05:38:57 PM

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on November 29, 2022, 04:17:26 PM

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? Huh

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

As someone who grew up with a family that owns a farm full of chickens for cockfighting, it is actually more than just luck-based.

A certain breed of chickens are required in order for them to participate in a fight. If a chicken wins in a match, his whole bloodline of chicks would be trained inside a simulated arena (without their blades, of course) to check their reflexes. I remember my grandfather and father hiring people to train these chickens to improve their flight reach and reflexes in the fight.

Of course, a normal viewer would see it as purely "luck-based" given the number of factors that can turn the tide of the battle. But you can eliminate those "luck-based" factors by training your chickens for the match.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on November 29, 2022, 06:01:52 PM

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

Betting on this kind of game can be easy to predict by easily judging for the fitness and look of the rams I think, and one thing I am wondering is how is it done that these rams just begin to fight themselves, seems odd. You also said that some of the rams are secretly smuggled to were the ram fight is supposed to take place, how do people who their smuggled rams die in the process handle it.

No, the reverse is always the case because some rams may appear too weak but when they come in contact with another ram they get energized to fight harder. The statement of the op about some people smuggling some ram to gamble is not correct because the rams are trained rams that's why they can easily start fighting when they get to the gambling ground about the issue of where some cow die in the process of fighting, the owners are aware of the risk that's why its not always a problem when there is a dead ram.

When it comes to these animal fights which are attached on gambling then expect that one of them would surely die in the end of the process or simply part of the game. People are really just
too overacting with these kind of betting or gambling where they do really mind about animal cruelty or something in related. On cockfight game then it is really a pretty common one
on some countries which they dont really mind about those issues. Better or the stronger animal would always win the game and what makes it interesting is that
you cant really be able to determine which one is better. Cheesy

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Quote from: Bananington on November 25, 2022, 04:05:43 PM

Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

Betting on this kind of game can be easy to predict by easily judging for the fitness and look of the rams I think, and one thing I am wondering is how is it done that these rams just begin to fight themselves, seems odd. You also said that some of the rams are secretly smuggled to were the ram fight is supposed to take place, how do people who their smuggled rams die in the process handle it.

No, the reverse is always the case because some rams may appear too weak but when they come in contact with another ram they get energized to fight harder. The statement of the op about some people smuggling some ram to gamble is not correct because the rams are trained rams that's why they can easily start fighting when they get to the gambling ground about the issue of where some cow die in the process of fighting, the owners are aware of the risk that's why its not always a problem when there is a dead ram.

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It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 29, 2022, 05:09:42 PM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on November 29, 2022, 04:17:26 PM

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? Huh

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on November 29, 2022, 04:17:26 PM

To answer your question, I think such a game cannot be installed in most casinos due to laws. But there are countries in which they could exist in casinos, I am sure. But they can definitely find a crowd in online casinos. But then again, that would just be Pokemon. Maybe that's the reason casinos do not include this in their gambling games?

As i've said in my previous post above that in our country there is this online cockbetting where you can bet anytime, anywhere as long as you have an internet connection and it used to be legalized by the government but now it stopped due to some complaints but you can still find online cockbetting but not that open anymore as it is already illegally operated. Online cockbetting could generate billions of pesos that i think it is a bigger platform that a casino in our country which is why it is very hard to stop/eliminate.

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on November 29, 2022, 04:17:26 PM

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

So basically the real life equivalent of pokemon. Except more brutal and less exciting. Not that I have anything against a digital version. Hell, why not just play Pokemon and fight Pokemon? It is basically the same thing and you don't need to kill chickens for it.

To answer your question, I think such a game cannot be installed in most casinos due to laws. But there are countries in which they could exist in casinos, I am sure. But they can definitely find a crowd in online casinos. But then again, that would just be Pokemon. Maybe that's the reason casinos do not include this in their gambling games?

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 29, 2022, 12:43:58 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on November 28, 2022, 04:23:29 PM

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

yes there are some cultures that are still thick with animal cruelty but besides that all of us in this forum have to respect their culture if we want to be respected, to be honest it's not a gambling game that I want because I'm not someone who likes to kill animals just to bet on gambling, so this discussion will be very long to discuss because it all depends on the point of view of different communities

after all it seems no casino is too keen on the idea of creating gambling that features animal cruelty

Agree on this one that we should really be respecting on other countries culture.It is really just that there are really people who are really just making those exaggerated reactions in talks about
animal cruelty which they dont even bother about asking the situation into those hogs that been slaughtered just for us people to have some meat. Lets just really that accept
that there are places in the world which does have different culture and things that they've been dealing.They might not really be looking to be good or ethical on some point
but well its theirs to take and its none of our business and we dont have rights on criticizing it.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 28, 2022, 04:23:29 PM

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

Whether it should be ? we don't need to debate it. after all, the type of gambling that involves animals as a backdrop does not exist in sports or casino gambling. the exception is horse racing or dog racing as these have nothing to do with fighting animals like in a boxing ring. after all, in my own country, culture and traditions like this are strictly prohibited, be it cockfighting, or sheep fighting, it is no longer allowed to involve gambling, I don't know in other Asian countries.

These traditions and cultures have existed long before we were born, to eliminate cultures and traditions like this requires awareness from each individual. there is a process, moreover now there are organizations all over the world that love animals and strictly prohibit gambling actions that involve the brutality of fights involving animals. after all, we already have an online casino, which is more enjoyable. Gradually, this kind of culture will disappear by itself.

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 29, 2022, 12:43:58 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on November 28, 2022, 04:23:29 PM

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

yes there are some cultures that are still thick with animal cruelty but besides that all of us in this forum have to respect their culture if we want to be respected, to be honest it's not a gambling game that I want because I'm not someone who likes to kill animals just to bet on gambling, so this discussion will be very long to discuss because it all depends on the point of view of different communities

after all it seems no casino is too keen on the idea of creating gambling that features animal cruelty

Got that point, a valid opinion that there are differences among us here. Maybe it will be on your own take if how will you prefer whether you will not engage if chances permit that you have that kind of gambling from where you are.

It's your decision and if others are willing to gamble, then, like what you said, let them or so be it.
Nothing will change for now, as there are countries who still allow this kind of gambling and I like
the idea that there's no gambling website or major website that cater this kind of gambling.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 28, 2022, 04:23:29 PM

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

yes there are some cultures that are still thick with animal cruelty but besides that all of us in this forum have to respect their culture if we want to be respected, to be honest it's not a gambling game that I want because I'm not someone who likes to kill animals just to bet on gambling, so this discussion will be very long to discuss because it all depends on the point of view of different communities

after all it seems no casino is too keen on the idea of creating gambling that features animal cruelty

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I was shocked to see in Türkiye people were organizing cock fights through hidden Facebook groups (this was found out when 1-2 of them were forgotten, so comments and posts were visible). There were people with rooster images talking in sort of cryptic language. It was legal are in law in past. But now we have animal rights law so its completely illegal. I also think this should not be encouraged anymore, I see how those animals are losing their all feathers and such. Terrible exploitation of animals.

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Quote from: livingfree on November 28, 2022, 06:13:17 PM

Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before.

As someone who has pets, I don't think it's always fun or never been fun. There's the satisfying feeling when someone sees the struggle of the other animal and the fight itself but that's not on me.

It's the culture that makes us think that it's fun but if you try to analyze the situation, you'll eventually going to realize that it's no fun at all.

Well, that depends if you really think that it's fun.

As someone who has animals as pets, it's not really very enjoyable to watch an animal suffer just because someone has placed a bet on it. Way back when I was still a child, I also engaged in some sort of betting on spider fighting. It was fun way back when I'm still not knowledgeable enough that they have feelings and they deserve to live too. But now, I wouldn't really place a bet on something that involves cruelty because it just tolerates and even boosts the urge of those people who organize such because there are people engaging in it.

Seeing how the two gamecocks fight against each other because humans tell them to and put them in such situation wherein survival of the fittest is the only way to be alive and fighting will be their only way out is such a horrible idea. But then again, not everyone possess the same level of empathy that a person has. It varies to different extent and some do not even possess it at all. If it's your definition of fun, I won't really support you, but I won't impose my beliefs on you.

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Quote from: Merit.s on November 27, 2022, 10:57:07 AM

Yes I have heard of cock fight and have also watched it in films, I have a friend from part of Asia he explained this gambling stuff to me saying that his parents and grandparents loves gambling on cock fight. He said also grew up to enjoy it because they see it as fun. I love trying something new,if i happen to see it anywhere I will go and watch and possibly stake my bet after I have observed the game and have seen the rascal chicken that is capable of winning. I don't think this can be included in a casino because of the love man has for animals and have seen them worth living so many people might not like the concept.

I don't think it's love because we use the animal to gamble and often, the animal is killed in the end.
And even though they have spent time taking care of the animals but they still use them to gamble and try to win some money.
But maybe in Asia, this is common and has been happening for a long time, so it's not uncommon to see cockfights or other animal bets.
And if the government sees that this is addictive for the current generation, they will ban it and punish people who use animals to gamble.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before.

As someone who has pets, I don't think it's always fun or never been fun. There's the satisfying feeling when someone sees the struggle of the other animal and the fight itself but that's not on me.

It's the culture that makes us think that it's fun but if you try to analyze the situation, you'll eventually going to realize that it's no fun at all.

Well, that depends if you really think that it's fun.

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