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Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Not all people are having fun seeing these animals kills each others because of our intentions and just because we wanted to have fun and winning , why not gamble in other form?
there are lot to offer in each casino so there is no need for animal to die in this kind of cruel way, aren't we enough of eating them?
maybe this is the time that we must act accordingly towards animal and make them have a living life without this kind of event happening .

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Gamblers are happy to win the chicken of their choice of course. But the animals or chickens are not happy, that's for sure, if only these

chickens could talk, they probably would have talked to people like us. It's a pity to see, because, in every game or fight between two chickens,

one of them will surely be a delicious dish after the fight. But this gambling game is not in all countries they allow to do in some others it is illegal

for them and in others it is legal.

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Quote from: Hispo on November 30, 2022, 09:35:52 AM

But how does the owner of the roosters manage to scam people that way?
Don't people know about the state of the roosters before the fight, so they can know where to place their bets?

They bet on the opponent while the rooster that they're going to release is sick and weak. It's the arbitrage scam that they do and those people that bet on their sick rooster are for sure going to lose money while they know that they've got an instant win because who's going to win with a weak and sick rooster in a fight?

Quote from: Hispo on November 30, 2022, 09:35:52 AM

Also, I assume you mean there are crime syndicates that have been ripped off by these online casinos and they retaliate against the owners of the casinos by kidnapping them. Another reason why transparency is necessary in every kind of betting, I guess.

Exactly, they're taking revenge on those people and they presume that they're scammers that make them lose money. Those people that have been reported were never found and even the government had already stepped on it and did an investigation but it did nothing.

Man, that is insane. The government can't even stop neither the scammers nor the kidnappers?
Here people cannot try to scam people like that, they would not last a week (and they know it), very disgusting and unfair. At least, here most of the times people get "fair" fights.

The deeper I dive into this thread about cockfighting the more I convince myself it should be banned in my country and leave animals out of betting. Perhaps, with the exception of horse races. Sad

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such a game be in the casino?

I often watch cock fighting when I was young because my father used to work in a cock fight arena. It was heartbreaking to see animals dying for the happiness of humans but everything seems normal to the viewers since it's a traditional game.
I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

It must be very sad to see animals dying for human satisfaction and they can't feel the sadness. But it is part of the cockfight bet and only those who lose will feel it when they see their animal lose. This animal bet is very difficult to stop and only with the awareness of the gamblers can stop it. They have to find other ways to bet and not use animals anymore to bet. Maybe one day, this animal bet will completely disappear because gamblers will have other ways to channel their passion for gambling.

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Quote from: virasisog on November 30, 2022, 05:30:52 PM

I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

That's what others don't understand and they will just stick with their loving the animals' stuff and being an animal patriot.

If they don't like that game, these people don't have to say "stop this game" but rather respect other countries' beliefs.

There are lots of worst cultures out there compare to cockfighting. People should not stress themselves if they don't like this type of gambling game.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such a game be in the casino?

I often watch cock fighting when I was young because my father used to work in a cock fight arena. It was heartbreaking to see animals dying for the happiness of humans but everything seems normal to the viewers since it's a traditional game.
I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

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But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? Huh

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I also think luck is a huge factor in this game. Since cockfighting is modified by equipping blades on the legs of the rooster, other rooster are not comfortable wearing it so as a result there are some incidents of self-afflicted damage that can result in the death of a roster. This sometimes happen when the dominant rooster shuffle the almost beaten opponent that is lying on the ground. The dominant rooster often hit its neck that can result to insta-death of the rooster.

Another case of luck case is the fighting strategy of a cock. Since most owners are not aware of how the cock fight, there is a chance that their rooster fight style is countered by the opposing rooster's fight style. There are lots of cases that luck can apply on the cockfigting game. One that I experienced was that the blade was wrongly equipped on our rooster making it not deal damage even though it should be a clear hit.

I'm not really a huge fan of cock fighting, but most of the time in a huge cock fighting tournament where wealthy and expert breeders are clashing together, it's mostly base on luck as majority of these roosters are well trained and very well taken care of with all the vitamins and hybrid foods.
However, there are these local cock fighting, which is mostly unpermitted, you can easily determine which rooster is more likely to win and which one is more likely depending on luck.

That's what I've heard from the people who loves cock fighting here in my place.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings.

That's understandable that cock fighting is an ancient game that was popular in a time when there was no internet and no such digital technology but the problem is why this sport is still popular in the current era in some areas?

There should be a complete ban on this sport and there should be extreme punishment for those who get caught playing this sport. When there will be no cock fighting, there will be no betting on it.

Unfortunately, that's only the reason why it's hard to completely ban cock fighting since it has already become a norm or a culture since it has been played for a long time. Also, there are some provincial areas in these Asian countries which have limited access to technology and the internet, and cock fighting is very commonly played in those areas. Other reasons also included are that cocks, or chickens are normally being killed for human consumption unlike other animals like dogs which are kept as a pet and not for food.

Still, I understand that this should be stopped and banned completely as these animals feel pain and should undergo these circumstances before getting killed.

Ok, I agree that there might be some places where it would be difficult to stop the game itself which is cock fighting. But where does the gambling take place in those matches? There could be local gambling where bookies conduct the betting on those fights. Well, we can't stop them either as no one has control over the local bookies.
However, other online gambling sites which are operating from other parts of the world, should not offer gambling on these cock fights. If any online site is found providing bets on cock fighting games, they should be penalized.

I do made out some research in regarding on what you have asked on where these things been held off.
As you can see on how many cockfighting Arenas on Philippines.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cockfighting_arenas_in_the_Philippines

Which does really tell that this one is really that regulated or something been allowed, because these establishments cant be build up if cockfighting was
prohibited on the first place.This is where local online betting sites would really be looking upon as usual.

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But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? Huh

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I also think luck is a huge factor in this game. Since cockfighting is modified by equipping blades on the legs of the rooster, other rooster are not comfortable wearing it so as a result there are some incidents of self-afflicted damage that can result in the death of a roster. This sometimes happen when the dominant rooster shuffle the almost beaten opponent that is lying on the ground. The dominant rooster often hit its neck that can result to insta-death of the rooster.

Another case of luck case is the fighting strategy of a cock. Since most owners are not aware of how the cock fight, there is a chance that their rooster fight style is countered by the opposing rooster's fight style. There are lots of cases that luck can apply on the cockfigting game. One that I experienced was that the blade was wrongly equipped on our rooster making it not deal damage even though it should be a clear hit.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 25, 2022, 02:52:44 PM

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings.

That's understandable that cock fighting is an ancient game that was popular in a time when there was no internet and no such digital technology but the problem is why this sport is still popular in the current era in some areas?

There should be a complete ban on this sport and there should be extreme punishment for those who get caught playing this sport. When there will be no cock fighting, there will be no betting on it.

Unfortunately, that's only the reason why it's hard to completely ban cock fighting since it has already become a norm or a culture since it has been played for a long time. Also, there are some provincial areas in these Asian countries which have limited access to technology and the internet, and cock fighting is very commonly played in those areas. Other reasons also included are that cocks, or chickens are normally being killed for human consumption unlike other animals like dogs which are kept as a pet and not for food.

Still, I understand that this should be stopped and banned completely as these animals feel pain and should undergo these circumstances before getting killed.

Ok, I agree that there might be some places where it would be difficult to stop the game itself which is cock fighting. But where does the gambling take place in those matches? There could be local gambling where bookies conduct the betting on those fights. Well, we can't stop them either as no one has control over the local bookies.
However, other online gambling sites which are operating from other parts of the world, should not offer gambling on these cock fights. If any online site is found providing bets on cock fighting games, they should be penalized.

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Quote from: Hispo on November 30, 2022, 09:35:52 AM

But how does the owner of the roosters manage to scam people that way?
Don't people know about the state of the roosters before the fight, so they can know where to place their bets?

They bet on the opponent while the rooster that they're going to release is sick and weak. It's the arbitrage scam that they do and those people that bet on their sick rooster are for sure going to lose money while they know that they've got an instant win because who's going to win with a weak and sick rooster in a fight?

Quote from: Hispo on November 30, 2022, 09:35:52 AM

Also, I assume you mean there are crime syndicates that have been ripped off by these online casinos and they retaliate against the owners of the casinos by kidnapping them. Another reason why transparency is necessary in every kind of betting, I guess.

Exactly, they're taking revenge on those people and they presume that they're scammers that make them lose money. Those people that have been reported were never found and even the government had already stepped on it and did an investigation but it did nothing.

Quote from: 348Judah on November 30, 2022, 09:44:30 AM

I've not been seing any of the present casinos with such game being on their casino list because it is one of the traditional olden days game played but nevertheless gamblers still gambles with this kind just in a rare occasions and locations, but it's a game that is mostly practice and enjoyed by many part of the world, cock fight is as interesting and unpredictable because the game is live and entertaining.

The casinos that have it are specialized ones, they're only focusing on cockfight and at the same time got a few casino games. Well, there really people who would say that it's fun but you'll see how many are against on it despite both parties are gamblers.

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But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? Huh

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I'm also struggling to determine whether if it's luck-based game or not, I know what you're trying to say and I got your point. It's just sometimes, even the strongest rooster will get defeated unexpectedly and surely there's a lot of gamblers who will lost that bet because no one would expect that it will get lost. If you're particular about this game, then you already knew that there's a calendar that the bettors are looking and the type of the moon of that specific day/night. Of course, there's no guarantee that you will win if you'll base your bets about it but there will be some times too that it will really go through.

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Quote from: blockman on November 29, 2022, 05:41:11 PM

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side.

I've not been seing any of the present casinos with such game being on their casino list because it is one of the traditional olden days game played but nevertheless gamblers still gambles with this kind just in a rare occasions and locations, but it's a game that is mostly practice and enjoyed by many part of the world, cock fight is as interesting and unpredictable because the game is live and entertaining.

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Quote from: blockman on November 29, 2022, 05:41:11 PM

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

But how does the owner of the roosters manage to scam people that way?
Don't people know about the state of the roosters before the fight, so they can know where to place their bets?

Also, I assume you mean there are crime syndicates that have been ripped off by these online casinos and they retaliate against the owners of the casinos by kidnapping them. Another reason why transparency is necessary in every kind of betting, I guess.

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The animal cruelty was offence almost all over the world.But according to the cock,their was different law.We are using the cock for the food,maybe it is the reason for this relaxation.I had different opinion on this.Even their is a law to prevent the dog,But the cock don’t have any hesitation.This is due to cock had two legs.The Animal welfare should think about this,they also look into the concern on cock fighting.When one cock had loss,it will be killed and used as the food their dinner.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 29, 2022, 05:09:42 PM

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

honestly I can't even understand how people who bet on these chicken fights manage to analyze a chicken to have any chance of winning the fight, because there is no data available on the internet about the chickens, because I don't see how they would collect data from a chicken, for example, is there a database where they put which chicken X is so many years old, has so many victories? in addition to the fact that the governments of most countries condemn this type of thing, so I suppose that those who bet on it are people who like clandestine betting, I hope that those people who organize this type of thing change their attitudes and stop doing it doing that kind of mean thing, in my country they never did that kind of thing and from what I see the law doesn't allow that kind of thing to be done. I wonder: if you took a poll of all the people in these countries who do these kinds of things, would the majority of people vote in favor of this top of things? As I have never been to that country, I cannot give an opinion on how life is in these countries.

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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I strongly oppose the use of animals in sports. It is unjust how these creatures have been treated for the sake of sports and gambling. They are live entities with feelings. Unlike humans, we can tell when we want to join in something or not, but they are forced to participate with no option to reject because they cannot communicate like us. It does not seem appropriate to me, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? Huh

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

Yes it is, at least for me.

Imagine yourself that you are about to bet on an online/actual cockfighting, you can't touch them as that is not allowed because by doing so you can somewhat tell the bigger bird because the bigger bird you have, you have the advantage on your opponent so by merely looking at two birds on which to bet, you just rely purely on luck if you are an ordinary bettor (not the owner of the cock).

Cockfighting is so complicated than it looks. You merely see two birds fighting but behind the scene, it is very complicated on how to let those birds fight. The matching and the installation of blades of the cock's knuckle also play a big role because slight mistake on the blades angle, it can't kill it's opponent.

Not an expert as well but have seen enough that i could say i'm better on some of us here in the forum about this game.

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This very game isn't common in my local community if at all it exist but I did watched this gambling mostly in Asian movies and it was really an interesting one and I also wanted to know if those cocks are specially trained because they really seem specially trained.

This game would be nice and interesting if introduced to virtual games not just for the price but also for the fun in watching this creature without hands actually engaging in a brutal combat.
I also haven't witnessed this fight in person and I really will love to someday

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Quote from: Pamadar on November 29, 2022, 02:27:07 PM

Got that point, a valid opinion that there are differences among us here. Maybe it will be on your own take if how will you prefer whether you will not engage if chances permit that you have that kind of gambling from where you are.

It's your decision and if others are willing to gamble, then, like what you said, let them or so be it.
Nothing will change for now, as there are countries who still allow this kind of gambling and I like
the idea that there's no gambling website or major website that cater this kind of gambling.

yes, therefore this gambling has never been shown in live events especially in casinos because it might conflict with different views, I also don't agree with seeing gambling using animals but I have to understand their culture as long as they never show it in public spaces I don't think there's any problem in my country gambling is prohibited and most of them play always hiding in the forest

Quote from: Mahanton on November 29, 2022, 04:16:16 PM

Agree on this one that we should really be respecting on other countries culture.It is really just that there are really people who are really just making those exaggerated reactions in talks about
animal cruelty which they dont even bother about asking the situation into those hogs that been slaughtered just for us people to have some meat. Lets just really that accept
that there are places in the world which does have different culture and things that they've been dealing.They might not really be looking to be good or ethical on some point
but well its theirs to take and its none of our business and we dont have rights on criticizing it.

We all understand that differences of opinion are also good but we also remind each other that we must respect the culture in each country if we want to be respected, even though I do not agree with gambling using animals, but again any casino will not add this gambling to their site if there is one maybe using a digital kind of NFT would make it more modern Wink

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