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December 01, 2022, 04:50:27 PM
It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

I bet you are from an Asian country as I have heard issues about it too. I should say I am not into cockfighting too because maybe that’s not my type of the game. And if ask if it should be given to play in casinos, I think it would hardly happen because it’s now starting to be banned because of some associated negative feedbacks about it. And to think that it’s way more beyond from protecting our animals, definitely it should never be encouraged to become seen in casinos.
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December 01, 2022, 04:30:32 PM
maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

Well... in some places, it is a part of local traditions. Where I live, during old days we used to have rooster fights. However nowadays everyone seems to have forgotten about it. Even in other states within India, there are similar traditions. Some of the states have bull-fight as their premier cultural symbol, while some have goat fights. Obviously there is a lot of friction between the traditionalists and the animal rights activists, with sometimes things getting physical. For my part, I believe that local traditions should be viewed as an exception and allowed to continue.

In one of the provinces in my country, cockfighting is part of the traditional ceremony.
Tajen, that's how the Balinese call it. cockfighting tradition there, usually only held on certain days. Cockfighting in one area of ​​my country is related to sincere holy sacrifices for Bhuta Kala. so this tradition has nothing to do with gambling, this tradition has been around since ancient times. however, in other regions or areas of the province. cockfighting, being part of the traditional gambling tradition.

Now, everything has been banned and become illegal except in one area that I mentioned above. Cockfighting gambling activities have been banned, anyone caught will be subject to criminal sanctions. after all, in this era of advanced technology. there are many more fun entertainment options, there are online casinos with a variety of betting games in them. why adopt a tradition and culture that only tortures animals, which actually the animals have the right to live freely.
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December 01, 2022, 03:56:41 PM
For me personally this type of Cock fighting bet is not that challenging. Even though some of my friends really like being around the Cock fighting arena and placing bets on one of the cocks, I just watch it without making any bets there.
I prefer betting in casinos and it is more challenging for me, self involved play is more fulfilling for me than placing bets on Cock fighting.
Im on this situation too on which i had tested out on going into a cockfighting arena and going along with my friends.While they do make out some bets then i dont really have the feels or liking to
make out bets basing on this kind of gambling where everybody around is really that shouting and being impulsive on placing up their bets.I dont really see the interest in me when
tending to bet up on these animal fight type of gambling.I dont see for it to be interesting or entertaining which it do boggles up on why other people are really that
dying on making a bet even on the smallest amount as possible and even some do bet up millions which is totally absurd.
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December 01, 2022, 01:05:03 PM
But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though?  Huh

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I also think luck is a huge factor in this game.  Since cockfighting is modified by equipping blades on the legs of the rooster,  other rooster are not comfortable wearing it so as a result there are some incidents of self-afflicted damage that can result in the death of a roster.  This sometimes happen when the dominant rooster shuffle the almost beaten opponent that is lying on the ground.  The dominant rooster often hit its neck that can result to insta-death of the rooster.

Another case of luck case is the fighting strategy of a cock.  Since most owners are not aware of how the cock fight, there is a chance that their rooster fight style is countered by the opposing rooster's fight style.  There are lots of cases that luck can apply on the cockfigting game.  One that I experienced was that the blade was wrongly equipped on our rooster making it not deal damage even though it should be a clear hit.

Yes, if it is not a luck-based game then what is it? I think it's clear that it's classified as a luck-based game because even if your rooster came from a strong breed that previously won different tournaments, its chances may somehow increase but its vulnerability is the same as the game is based on who will survive last or who will inflict the most stab from that blade they're equipped.

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm. So I imagine that they need to introduce chaos into the system itself before it can be called "luck-based" And if they do not, then they implement a game which can be beaten with skill, and obviously any AI that is able to figure out the game itself will render the casino penniless, seeing as the client side would win everytime just by cheating his "skill"...

In real life, every cock is different. You cannot really emulate that each individual skill.
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December 01, 2022, 12:32:28 PM
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I absolutely agree with you, because I think animal fighting is unacceptable. This kind of entertainment has been considered normal in some countries for a long time, but animals don't have to die for entertainment. Nowadays, people can build good fighting robots suitable for this kind of entertainment and bet on them. Why this is still not being done is a big question.

This is one of the most overrated gambling games in our country and sometimes insects like spiders are no exception to them as long as they can play and bet on it. I think this kind of game is not really necessary because how can someone be happy seeing the animal hurt or most of the time get killed?

Animal cruelty should not be in any kind of industry unless they are slaughtered for food to be consumed.

But for the people who find it a money-making machine, they don't mind hosting an event where these cruelties happened all the time.

I don't even go to the circus if animals perform there, but I gladly attend circus performances in which only humans participate - acrobats, tightrope walkers, clowns, etc. as I believe that animals should not be exploited by humans for entertainment.

 If your authorities really wanted to eradicate this kind of entertainment, they would impose severe penalties not only for organizing fights, but also for participating in the betting on these fights.

I think that a few big arrests and a few months in prison would be enough to discourage the organizers from engaging in this kind of fighting.
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December 01, 2022, 12:18:25 PM
maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

Well... in some places, it is a part of local traditions. Where I live, during old days we used to have rooster fights. However nowadays everyone seems to have forgotten about it. Even in other states within India, there are similar traditions. Some of the states have bull-fight as their premier cultural symbol, while some have goat fights. Obviously there is a lot of friction between the traditionalists and the animal rights activists, with sometimes things getting physical. For my part, I believe that local traditions should be viewed as an exception and allowed to continue.
If it is a traditional matter it can be observed and acceptable. But when it is considered a game of gambling outside the tradition, there is a different view. Moreover, if it is observed as a tradition, it can be conduct on any specific day of the year or according to the authority. Which can happen once in any particular place by announcing whole village but if people spread the influence of gambling and can be organized again and again which is considered injustice to animals.
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December 01, 2022, 11:53:05 AM
maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

Well... in some places, it is a part of local traditions. Where I live, during old days we used to have rooster fights. However nowadays everyone seems to have forgotten about it. Even in other states within India, there are similar traditions. Some of the states have bull-fight as their premier cultural symbol, while some have goat fights. Obviously there is a lot of friction between the traditionalists and the animal rights activists, with sometimes things getting physical. For my part, I believe that local traditions should be viewed as an exception and allowed to continue.
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December 01, 2022, 11:52:38 AM
For me personally this type of Cock fighting bet is not that challenging. Even though some of my friends really like being around the Cock fighting arena and placing bets on one of the cocks, I just watch it without making any bets there.
I prefer betting in casinos and it is more challenging for me, self involved play is more fulfilling for me than placing bets on Cock fighting.
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December 01, 2022, 11:25:13 AM
Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.
I guess their motive is money. Maybe if you want to know directly you can ask them. Just watch them bet on their chickens. Then if their chickens win of course The price of their chickens will go up, they can earn more money.
My country banned cockfighting, even the police have arrested some of those activities. But it doesn't stop either, it seems that it is already a disease that is difficult to get rid of. Or maybe they've even bribed the police into keeping quiet.
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December 01, 2022, 10:37:41 AM
But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though?  Huh

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I also think luck is a huge factor in this game.  Since cockfighting is modified by equipping blades on the legs of the rooster,  other rooster are not comfortable wearing it so as a result there are some incidents of self-afflicted damage that can result in the death of a roster.  This sometimes happen when the dominant rooster shuffle the almost beaten opponent that is lying on the ground.  The dominant rooster often hit its neck that can result to insta-death of the rooster.

Another case of luck case is the fighting strategy of a cock.  Since most owners are not aware of how the cock fight, there is a chance that their rooster fight style is countered by the opposing rooster's fight style.  There are lots of cases that luck can apply on the cockfigting game.  One that I experienced was that the blade was wrongly equipped on our rooster making it not deal damage even though it should be a clear hit.

Yes, if it is not a luck-based game then what is it? I think it's clear that it's classified as a luck-based game because even if your rooster came from a strong breed that previously won different tournaments, its chances may somehow increase but its vulnerability is the same as the game is based on who will survive last or who will inflict the most stab from that blade they're equipped.
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December 01, 2022, 10:29:50 AM
I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

That's what others don't understand and they will just stick with their loving the animals' stuff and being an animal patriot.

If they don't like that game, these people don't have to say "stop this game" but rather respect other countries' beliefs.

There are lots of worst cultures out there compare to cockfighting. People should not stress themselves if they don't like this type of gambling game.

Exactly! There are lots of entertainment or sports that uses animals as the subject, stopping these kinds of sports/entertainment will take you at least centuries before you can start making slight changes. Even the famous and prestigious horse racing cannot be put on halt these days because it's already part of the history and culture, if you're an animal lover or conservative enough to go against these kinds of stuffs then you should start owning some of these animals to take care of them and to save them. Some people are just too talkative on the internet or better known as keyboard warriors but in reality, they cannot even feed or save stray cats or dogs.
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December 01, 2022, 09:14:34 AM
maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

I have never seen a goat fighting in my country most likely they are playing cockfighting only and you cannot remove this kind of gambling games to their because before there's no gambling casino already just a casual bet between with peer to peer games which they used to the cockfighting it is seems like a pet to them they built a good body shape, vitamins and etc. to let their chicken conquers the tournament most likely, and there's no probably chance that they will adopt this kind of thing because we know how elegance a gambling casino and they have different platforms with it seems like they are already independent like the horse race game.
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December 01, 2022, 09:06:10 AM
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and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

If you mean online gambling platforms, I agree with you. I think cockfighting is a kind of a thing that people who enjoy seeing it, want to see it with their own eyes, not through a video camera. I wouldn't go so far to call them "perverts", but that's what comes to mind, to be honest. But that's me. I'm not a holder of the universal truth, and, after some working on myself, I'm far from thinking that I know better than anyone, what's right and what's wrong.
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December 01, 2022, 06:39:39 AM
In my country, there is a law of animal welfare, and against for animal cruelty such as horse and dog fight, but what, cock fighting is legal here. Only to those licensed cockpits in every sunday and some holidays.
Due to this is a huge business here and already part of the culture and tradition since many hundred years ago, i don't think if government will stop it or make a law against it since most politicians are only held to protect their businesses.
Cockfighting in my country isn’t new anymore and is certainly not an issue even if it’s considered a form of animal cruelty. The fact that it’s been legalized by the government and there are big names behind on it protecting, so it can’t be easily banned or stopped. However, on my own point of view, cockfighting is not just a form of animal cruelty but there are also a lot of crimes happening that is associated to cockfighting just like robbery, drug selling or using, and sometimes committing murder which made me see it as something that needs to be banned or something that should not be played in casinos.

Yeah, and probably that's one reason why those groups are really against cock fighting not only as a animal cruelty, but because it can really damage some lives, as you have said, like robbery or even worst, death.

So I guess, society is going to be divided in this kind of animal cruelty vs as part of tradition just like what the OP is trying to portray, that's how I understand it.

It will be a continuous topic for discussions, for every government around the world and it will be very difficult to stop this "animal cruelty".
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December 01, 2022, 06:38:21 AM
maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the gambling platforms.
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December 01, 2022, 06:27:00 AM
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I absolutely agree with you, because I think animal fighting is unacceptable. This kind of entertainment has been considered normal in some countries for a long time, but animals don't have to die for entertainment. Nowadays, people can build good fighting robots suitable for this kind of entertainment and bet on them. Why this is still not being done is a big question.

This is one of the most overrated gambling games in our country and sometimes insects like spiders are no exception to them as long as they can play and bet on it. I think this kind of game is not really necessary because how can someone be happy seeing the animal hurt or most of the time get killed?

Animal cruelty should not be in any kind of industry unless they are slaughtered for food to be consumed.

But for the people who find it a money-making machine, they don't mind hosting an event where these cruelties happened all the time.
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December 01, 2022, 05:56:53 AM
it is one of the most popular gambling in my location , there are even roosters near my house and outside my community.

they are conducting street betting for this from day to day and more on weekdays.

also the Online betting of this are rampant from the former years but now it is being banned.

maybe if there are offering now? i believe that there will be chance of this getting here in crypto gambling.
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December 01, 2022, 05:46:44 AM
Exactly, they're taking revenge on those people and they presume that they're scammers that make them lose money. Those people that have been reported were never found and even the government had already stepped on it and did an investigation but it did nothing.

Man, that is insane. The government can't even stop neither the scammers nor the kidnappers?
Here people cannot try to scam people like that, they would not last a week (and they know it), very disgusting and unfair. At least, here most of the times people get "fair" fights.
Yup, that's the sad reality. It seems that there's a bigger authority that's behind all of those kidnappings. They can stop the operations but about the kidnappings, it's left as a mystery who's behind related to this issue.

The deeper I dive into this thread about cockfighting the more I convince myself it should be banned in my country and leave animals out of betting. Perhaps, with the exception of horse races.  Sad
It's a brutal sport for the animals, one has to die or be injured a lot, unlike the racing.
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December 01, 2022, 03:45:59 AM
In my country, there is a law of animal welfare, and against for animal cruelty such as horse and dog fight, but what, cock fighting is legal here. Only to those licensed cockpits in every sunday and some holidays.
Due to this is a huge business here and already part of the culture and tradition since many hundred years ago, i don't think if government will stop it or make a law against it since most politicians are only held to protect their businesses.
Cockfighting in my country isn’t new anymore and is certainly not an issue even if it’s considered a form of animal cruelty. The fact that it’s been legalized by the government and there are big names behind on it protecting, so it can’t be easily banned or stopped. However, on my own point of view, cockfighting is not just a form of animal cruelty but there are also a lot of crimes happening that is associated to cockfighting just like robbery, drug selling or using, and sometimes committing murder which made me see it as something that needs to be banned or something that should not be played in casinos.
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December 01, 2022, 03:28:48 AM
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I absolutely agree with you, because I think animal fighting is unacceptable. This kind of entertainment has been considered normal in some countries for a long time, but animals don't have to die for entertainment. Nowadays, people can build good fighting robots suitable for this kind of entertainment and bet on them. Why this is still not being done is a big question.
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