Topic: Cock fight game - page 10. (Read 4121 times)

So the point here is that we should respect other countries culture which we know that it could really differ into each other which people could have different impression when it comes to cockfighting.
There are indeed places which doesnt really able to bare up or handle out that animal cruelty which seeing these things would really be out of the boundary or limits which they cant really afford to see it out.
For other parts or side of the world then it do really turns out that they are really just that normal on where these animals been fighting insider an arena.
So better bare with it and dont make yourself get stressed since each corners of the world does have different culture.

This could be very difficult to find it in the gambling site its more or less of a physical gambling game which must present different cocks and sometimes requires an app version to work effectively, most of the gambling site only operates on web version.
But maybe from this post most of the gambling would likely feature it in their site to make it looks more interesting and attractive.

I agree. It is quite a unnecessarily cruel game and I would not think that any regular western person would wish to play such a game. Our morals are quite different, which is why I believe that cock-fighting games are more popular out of cultural reasons than just some people being cruel for the sake of enjoyment. Although people can be very cruel indeed, so there may be people who enjoy watching animals suffer .

But we are talking about the virtual version of this game in this thread. So cruelty free, 100%. Unless the game develops consciousness. 

Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. 

If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.

The problem is that several police and authorities are standing behind the organization. Hence, it is difficult for the authorities to investigate because every time they want to investigate, their steps will be deadlocked because their operations have been leaked. And it is very difficult to find out who leaked the operation because the organization is very good at hiding its agents to get valuable information from the authorities. The community thinks that the officials are not working optimally because we don't know what happened.

If only people had the same mindset as you had, then surely there would be no animals here on earth that will experience human cruelty just because they are born in a species that gets them no choice but to be involved into these cultural games. And if it would be so easy to boycott these kinds of games then I bet this kind of gamble were stopped decades ago, but no, it's already too late to stop these because it is already part of the culture. Just best for us to be neutral about it, the important thing is that we aren't supporting these kinds of cruelty just for the sake to entertain humans.

It's true, rosters are being raised to this fate, will receive extra care while in the conditioning period, but sadly when the time come, they will risk their life.

With cockfighting, roster's decision is always based with the owners, if they are willing to move and push
the fight, nothing can stop them.

Both the roster and the money that they will be going to use in betting for the fight are at risk. They spend
huge amount of money raising the roster then save money to bet.

It involves a huge amount of amount that's why there must be someone with authority or even syndicates running cockpit operations. It could also be one of the reasons why police and the authorities take time to solve the issue because huge names are operating it and involved in the case. There's also news that family members of the missing agents are getting an offer (a huge amount of money) from the cockpit operator to keep their mouths shut or stop making fuss.

Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate.

Come on you can't be serious? How do you enjoy seeing animals fighting and getting killed and you enjoy it ! If you are a real muslim you know that any kind of gambling or hurting animals is forbiden to do without any excuse
That shouldn't be legal no matter what animal you're using to gamble with since they have no rules of security and safe measures like for example gambling in UFC fights that has rules and fighters there are well trained.
You wouldn't like that someone take you and put you in a cage and make you fight to death with someone else! So why doing it to animals. It's no fun at all
But i still see that in most Muslim countries too even that they know it's forbiden in islam. In my region they are using sheeps to fight and most of the time they end up dying with very bad injuries since they are using their head. The seen is terrible but people enjoys it and gamble for it.

They don't often don't show the state of the animals after the fight because they know what will gonna happen when the public concern will gonna do something and that would be the end of their brutal games for the animals. I remember one time in school when I catch some wild spiders in the tree when I was young, A man came and get all of my spiders and he let them all go without getting any explanations from me. He might have thought that I might gonna use it for gambling but in reality, I will gonna keep them as a pet back then. If only most people will act like him, especially those people that are in the government, they will gonna support these kinds of cruel acts against the animals but we know that most of them prefer to get money from those envelopes rather than stop them.

Yes, when the game is allowed by a large community, it is not possible to implement anything good or evil. If the local people do not agree.  you will never be able to stop those games. Where some people are enjoying the pleasure. However, I will not consider the games of the players who have a threat to playing the game and when i will not control this situation, definitely will hate it silently. I consider it is a death trap of animal not the game.

I am not a big fan of animal fighting. It might be fun to watch but it could also be painful to see them suffering simply because of the useless human desire to gamble. Imagine rams dying or seriously injured because their owners want them to fight. But that's not for me to judge. In my opinion, it is not that interesting but I'm also aware that it's part of other people's culture. I respect that also.

But this couldn't be introduced in a casino probably because it is not a very acceptable form of gambling. Horse racing or dog racing would be all right but not those animal games that involve them dying.

Valid point.

Everyone has their own culture and tradition they grew up with and preferred to live up to today. We really have no control over other people's decision about these things because it's still a matter of preference and viewpoint. If it is considered to be legal in your country and the operators you have are operating legally and have proper documents and permits to let them hold such organized events of cock fighting, then do what suits you best. If that's how you get entertainment from, I won't impose my beliefs on you.

But personally, I'd rather play casino games or sports betting rather engaging in gambling betting involving animal cruelty. Although this is just me, since I can't really take violence and cruelty among animals who can grant permission on their end. As long as it isn't prohibited by the government, then we have a little to worry about because if it is legal, then they have the means to regulate it.

We live in a world filled with various cultures, maybe this is one of the various others or maybe even more extreme out there and we can't prevent it. I wouldn't ever use it also even rats, birds, or fish, but we can't avoid to see this daily when live on that culture, we can't forbid it when everyone like it, and in fact, if we forced everyone to not use it, we will get hate and be excommunicated from the community.

This is correct. Since the main weapon is attached to the legs, reaching advantage is very important.

Having a big size too means that the fighting cock is really taken care of and treated well with boosters, vitamins, supplements, etc.

However, in most cases, it seems rare to see that in a certain match, we will notice a much big size difference between 2 cocks that will set to fight. There's a category or sort of brackets at this match, of course, to balance everything.

Size matters because it has an advantage over smaller fowl. But in "ulutan", you should be wise in choosing your opponent. The longer the legs of the opponent, the harder it is to beat. They have a reach advantage, so size does matter. It is more even in derby because they have a range in weight, which makes the fowls more likely to be the same size.

Other factors count too. Like the bloodline of the fowl, health issues, conditioning, and the position of the gaff. If the gaffer is inexperienced, he may not get the right position for sure kill hits. Luck is a factor too, but sometimes it is dismissed because if you have a strong bloodline and well-conditioned fowl, the chance of winning is a lot higher.


It is not hard to find farms of fighting fowl. They even have regular TV shows in our country. They announce Breeders of the Year, and they feature good farms to teach backyard breeders the proper way of taking care of their own fowls.

It is also not that hard to find illegal cock fights, because cockfights are very noisy. You can hear the shouts of gamblers from very far. If there is a good group of cockfight gamblers, you can hear them a kilometer away. You can just follow the noise and you will find them. It is just an accepted practice in some provinces though, even if it is illegal. It is a weekly activity, so if the cops really want to put a stop to it, they just have to put effort 1 day per week to catch the organizers and some gamblers.

In a fighting cocks size does matter because they can hit harder, just like in boxing, bigger cocks can kill their opponent in one go since they hit harder and can pierce the opponent deeper or cut through the flesh of their opponent easily. I believe this is another reason why the cocks are paired according to weight[1].


True, it is a matter of luck and skill of the rooster.


No, I think the bloodbath scene makes the bettor thrilled about this kind of gambling.  If they wanted excitement, slots game gives more variety of results and are specifically based on luck.  I think it is the scene of watching two cocks fight to the death that makes them thrilled.

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[1] http://www.stuartxchange.org/Sabong

Unfortunately, the statement "All animals have the right to life." isn't true. These chickens or cock will die either way even if they will not be used on these fights. They will serve as a meal for almost everyone, the same goes to most animals that are used for consumption.

What's wrong with cock fights are the unnecessary violence which will cause these animals to be hurt. That's also what most animal activist fight for since these animals can feel pain unlike other animals that don't. If they should be killed, it should be humane and painless or quick.

It is barbaric actually to watch this kind of fight that has no referee to separate them . The fight sometimes becomes very intense and you see them bleeding from the crown and the head altogether. It is not a thing that we should be encouraging. Some people don't watch horror films because of the fear and blood that is seen and that is how it looks when watching two chicken killing themselves in fighting while betting on them is on.