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In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

actually there are more cock fighting happens outside the legalities , I mean there are so many guerilla cock fighting coming from every part of Asian countries , I should Know because I am still witnessing this till now.
that cops are being Paid upfront just not to disturb those betting meaning there are so much corruption happening from this and I believe that this is a bread and butter of many people from legal to illegal .

The corrupt police will cover up the illegal gambling that is taking place in the place because it is their extra money that keeps the illegal gambling going. If we talk about Asian countries, traditional gambling is still running with the support of those corrupt police and even if there are clean police who try to find gambling places, they will not be able to find and clean up the roots. What the clean police have to do is investigate who the corrupt police officers are and give them harsh punishments so that other police officers will think again if they want to commit corruption. And it's not just cockfighting on the list of online gambling, but there are also lottery or traditional card games used to play gambling.

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Quote from: pungopete468 on December 17, 2022, 04:23:34 AM

I always see this cock fight topic but I haven't actually seen one yet, do you know a gambling site that supports this kind of match? I am just curious about how it was played, how was the odds and was it really that popular? or it is for some countries only? I think horse racing is much more popular than this kind of game.

If you go over and take time to read some of the replies in this thread you'll find out that there are no international betting platform on this kind of gambling. You know the reason why? Because, as you can see we all have our own perspective on what animal cruelty really is. Western people finds it a clear sign of animal cruelty, while most of the people in the south part of Asia see this as a culture. Therefore, most of the betting platform for cock fighting was only limited locally.

A lot of debates happening here and it's not gonna end, simply because we have different culture and perspective on this matter. So, I guess it's better for the OP to just lock this thread and rest this case.

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I always see this cock fight topic but I haven't actually seen one yet, do you know a gambling site that supports this kind of match? I am just curious about how it was played, how was the odds and was it really that popular? or it is for some countries only? I think horse racing is much more popular than this kind of game.

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There are so much to expect from this gambling as it is performed all over Asia and some part of Europe and latin america , but I don't think that this is a good to conduct as it is cruel to animal .
I remember in the past when there is a dog fighting near my place but now being shut down to Illegal activities , Animal should live also and not be used in this kind of cruelty .

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In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

actually there are more cock fighting happens outside the legalities , I mean there are so many guerilla cock fighting coming from every part of Asian countries , I should Know because I am still witnessing this till now.
that cops are being Paid upfront just not to disturb those betting meaning there are so much corruption happening from this and I believe that this is a bread and butter of many people from legal to illegal .

+1 to this. Not just cockfighting but also other kind of street/local gambling. You'll even get protection from the police. They will block other agency from interfering and such thing is very common up to now in some part of Asia. Money talks. They will turned a blind eye in illegal gambling. It has been deeply rooted in the society.

Looks like most of us has this understanding , Yeah there are several gambling house that I often visiting and playing that offers prohibited gambling in my place but being protected by Bad Cops , in which they are collecting money from the operator so the game will continue not even there is a massive clean up.

we are safe each day and know what? it operate 24/7 , but there are days that it is closed due to politician presence and they dont wanna find out the operation .

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 16, 2022, 11:30:27 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 16, 2022, 09:35:14 PM

Quote from: bounceback on December 16, 2022, 07:58:49 PM

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

actually there are more cock fighting happens outside the legalities , I mean there are so many guerilla cock fighting coming from every part of Asian countries , I should Know because I am still witnessing this till now.
that cops are being Paid upfront just not to disturb those betting meaning there are so much corruption happening from this and I believe that this is a bread and butter of many people from legal to illegal .

+1 to this. Not just cockfighting but also other kind of street/local gambling. You'll even get protection from the police. They will block other agency from interfering and such thing is very common up to now in some part of Asia. Money talks. They will turned a blind eye in illegal gambling. It has been deeply rooted in the society.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 16, 2022, 09:35:14 PM

Quote from: bounceback on December 16, 2022, 07:58:49 PM

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

actually there are more cock fighting happens outside the legalities , I mean there are so many guerilla cock fighting coming from every part of Asian countries , I should Know because I am still witnessing this till now.
that cops are being Paid upfront just not to disturb those betting meaning there are so much corruption happening from this and I believe that this is a bread and butter of many people from legal to illegal .

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 14, 2022, 05:23:54 AM

~Thye are getting a huge amount of money. That's the reason why they are involved
with gambling, not only limited to cockfight but the whole gambling activities
with the involvement of most government officials.

I don't know, does cockfighting attract many gamblers, I mean, worldwide?

There's an article in Bloomberg, saying that "Online Cockfighting Wagers Rake in Billions in the Philippines". In the article they say that only one group’s revenue each month is about 1.5 billion Philippine Pesos($27 million USD), and that's a huge money, but is there another country like the Philippines in this regard?

It can. It's a known blood sport, or whatever it is called. But the problem is the legality of it.
A lot of countries are against it because it can be played anywhere such as a small field or just a place where there is soil and breeding gamecocks is not that hard too. The government won't make anything if they do this on their own.
In fact, I have a neighbor here who is a breeder of gamecocks, I ask him if he does gamble but he said he is not, he just sells all the cocks that he bred and does it over again.

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Quote from: bounceback on December 16, 2022, 07:58:49 PM

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

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Yes, in our country, I would say that cockfighting specially during the pandemic, is very rampant as you can play it online. But even prior to it, I used to be avid fan or bettors of this cock fight, so yeah I'm more familiar with it and I would say that I win some money in the past.

Of course, there will always be some groups that are going to condemn this kind of games that involved animals specially in the end one of them are killed for the sake of human betting on them and making money. So to each his/her own belief.

Cockfighting has already evolved a long long time ago. But if we can try to stop it in this new generation, I think that will a lot of help to lengthen the lives not only for those cocks but definitely for those animals who have been fighting each other just to win a bet. For me, it’s more on animal cruelty so it should be encourage to be ban or to stop betting in animals.

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

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Quote from: Betwrong on December 15, 2022, 06:54:20 AM

Quote from: Pamadar on December 14, 2022, 05:23:54 AM

~Thye are getting a huge amount of money. That's the reason why they are involved
with gambling, not only limited to cockfight but the whole gambling activities
with the involvement of most government officials.

I don't know, does cockfighting attract many gamblers, I mean, worldwide?

There's an article in Bloomberg, saying that "Online Cockfighting Wagers Rake in Billions in the Philippines". In the article they say that only one group’s revenue each month is about 1.5 billion Philippine Pesos($27 million USD), and that's a huge money, but is there another country like the Philippines in this regard?

I think it's not much of a worldwide game that attracts many gamblers around the globe, cockfighting only exist in handful countries in South-East Asia. I've searched it on the internet, it shows that it's also famous in Latin America but gamblers are not that drawn to it unlike to the countries in Asia.

And it's true that E-Sabong (Online Cockfighting) has a revenue of about 1.5 Billion Pesos monthly but that was before it's still legal because now, government has banned E-Sabong, but live cockfight games do exists legally, just not the online version.

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Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

I guess their motive is money. Maybe if you want to know directly you can ask them. Just watch them bet on their chickens. Then if their chickens win of course The price of their chickens will go up, they can earn more money.
My country banned cockfighting, even the police have arrested some of those activities. But it doesn't stop either, it seems that it is already a disease that is difficult to get rid of. Or maybe they've even bribed the police into keeping quiet.

One thing to note to those who did not know, when two cocks meet in the wild they will fight to the death, that is their instinct and they are not forced to fight each other. Some even said that it is a form of cruelty if you don't allow cocks to fight, funny but there's some truth to it if you see/know the characteristics of these birds.

This kind of activity is existing in out country for centuries ago that I don't think would stop immediately because of some people protesting for the welfare of those birds because like i said before, this industry generates billions of pesos and many families rely on this industry, they will starve if stopped abruptly.

Police and politician are also involve in this industry so this makes this thing even harder to stop. Manny Pacquiao, a champion boxer turned politician used to have a gamefowl farm which was too big that a company of goons have to guard it hehe.

Here in the Philippines there are a lot of big names involved with this kind of game because its all about not the cock fight only its also to gather connections with different parties which is good for politics and investment with their assets, even big names make a huge amount of bet with this game, also there's some hidden transactions happen like the recent news of the cockfighting there's a lot of people go because they lose a single game, but this is another topic. Also having this game is permitted and regulated that's why only illegal gambling of cockfight is prohibited and only the one who cater or support only have the protection.

This is something very curious, I thought that cockfighting was only in some towns, but due to the violence that is unleashed on those animals, it should be prohibited, right? where I live, in the towns they usually do this type of competition where it is rarely public in general, because it is usually quite private, that is because they are illegal things, personally I do not like to see those animals fighting, in fact I never I've seen that but on TV.

I am somewhat sensitive to seeing an animal suffer because in my house I have had some hens and chickens and I tend to get attached very quickly so it is something that caused me pain to see these little animals like this.

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Quote from: Betwrong on December 15, 2022, 06:54:20 AM

Quote from: Pamadar on December 14, 2022, 05:23:54 AM

~Thye are getting a huge amount of money. That's the reason why they are involved
with gambling, not only limited to cockfight but the whole gambling activities
with the involvement of most government officials.

I don't know, does cockfighting attract many gamblers, I mean, worldwide?

There's an article in Bloomberg, saying that "Online Cockfighting Wagers Rake in Billions in the Philippines". In the article they say that only one group’s revenue each month is about 1.5 billion Philippine Pesos($27 million USD), and that's a huge money, but is there another country like the Philippines in this regard?

Not sure about other countries but looking on that perspective, the chance that whatever countries still facilitating this gambling might continue to bring this business.

The revenue which is written is a basis alone and not the actual amount. There are sides betting which
is no longer count plus the illegal places where this gambling can be performed.

With that number, involvement of some government officials is really anticipated, money
will move them since it's an easy side income for them.

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 14, 2022, 05:23:54 AM

~Thye are getting a huge amount of money. That's the reason why they are involved
with gambling, not only limited to cockfight but the whole gambling activities
with the involvement of most government officials.

I don't know, does cockfighting attract many gamblers, I mean, worldwide?

There's an article in Bloomberg, saying that "Online Cockfighting Wagers Rake in Billions in the Philippines". In the article they say that only one group’s revenue each month is about 1.5 billion Philippine Pesos($27 million USD), and that's a huge money, but is there another country like the Philippines in this regard?

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This games is a very Interesting local game and i mostly watch them in movies and it has always been a very exciting game to watch and I also see the rate at which mostly the Mexican men bet on them.
I have been watching some cock fight in mostly Mexican and some Vietnam movies and I also see the joy in the faces of this gamblers and then you'll understand that it cost nothing to be happy.
I haven't witnessed either cock fight or ram fight and I would love to see one anytime I get the privilege to do so.
I could also remember when we were small and when we see cocks fight in our local environment, we onky argue who the winner would be but since there was no money attached to it, I wouldn't call it gambling I guess

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I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

This is the advantage of being a police because they know if there will be a raid that will happen and they can leave on that gambling place before their co-police came in the scene. It is still risky because what if someone reports them to their head? They can be fired out in an instant. That serves as a punishment because they are supposed to stop these kinds of activities, not to join them and encourage other people to do the same thing. This destroys their image as a police.

I really don't know the reason on why cock fighting is illegal while other gambling games are still illegal. I think this is because there's an animal that is involved or harmed here.

Well, surely they knew the risks and consequence if they will get caught gambling illegally with other gamblers but even though they knew that, they still chose indulge on such things because of the entertainment it an bring. One reason for that is at the end of the day, they are still a private citizen if they aren't wearing their uniforms who does gambling on one end.

To correct you on that last phrase. Cockfight is not entirely illegal, there are cockpits designated for people who wanted to gamble. What's illegal is all sorts of gambling that are not sanctioned by the government or who haven't got any permits to hold any gambling event and that includes cockfighting.

When you are off-duty then you do really have the rights as an ordinary citizen which means you could really make out involvement on things just like a normal citizen would tend to engage out but they aren't that
dumb on engaging on something that is illegal, once they're caught then say goodbye into their jobs.Its true that there would really be that legal places on where these cockfighting would be held upon.
But just as expected that there would be places that wont really be on scope of government and this is where illegal arenas been mold and gamblers or bettors will really be get arrested
once there would really be a raid.

Yes, but we cannot deny that some of these uniformed personnel are also engaging such events even though they knew it's illegal. Why? It's because they have that privilege to know because I'm sure they will hear such news if there will be a raid on that day so that he can avoid as the ones who will conduct the raid are also their colleagues.

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Quote from: serjent05 on December 13, 2022, 06:30:20 PM

Government employess are public entities. They are paid by the citizen so they should act morally. So government employee should barred themselves in gambling vicinities and the rule of not letting them to enter helps a lot. But the sad thing is, corruption is every where, the one that should implement rules and apply it are the one breaking them and restraining them. I hope any government officials or authority involved in or committing illegal stuff be publicly executed to serve as an example.

Yes, taxpayers are paying for their salaries and that's why they have that oath-taking that they shouldn't be found anywhere in a physical casino. That's against the moral values that they promised before they accepted their duty.
Corruption is like an accepted thing for most countries, no way to eradicate it unless from top to bottom officials have been cleansed and replaced with officials that are valuing their moral conduct.

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Quote from: wiss19 on December 12, 2022, 02:44:54 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 11, 2022, 11:46:37 PM

I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

This is the advantage of being a police because they know if there will be a raid that will happen and they can leave on that gambling place before their co-police came in the scene. It is still risky because what if someone reports them to their head? They can be fired out in an instant. That serves as a punishment because they are supposed to stop these kinds of activities, not to join them and encourage other people to do the same thing. This destroys their image as a police.

I really don't know the reason on why cock fighting is illegal while other gambling games are still illegal. I think this is because there's an animal that is involved or harmed here.

- Here in our country, there are other places where cockfighting is illegal, but there are also other places where the LGUs allow it, depending on the place. But even though it is illegal, this fight against chickens continues to happen. Then the chicken owners don't care because they only want to gamble.

In short, the chicken in this kind of battle is destined to die in this kind of thing and it has no choice but to fight, or else if it loses it will be killed for sure.

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Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

Yeah, they're not allowed to participate and enter the gambling premises. Whether it's cockfighting or any type of gambling activity, it's part of the public official's oath that they shouldn't engage in any type of gambling activity or else, when they're reported, they'll take a sanction.
That's for sure but it can't be stopped if there are police officers that are still gambling no matter what the rules and oath they've taken, if they're a gambler, they'll always be a gambler.

Those kind of rules are incredibly difficult to enforce as it is not as if those which due to their profession cannot gamble will actually tell everyone they are doing it, another example of this are athletes which are not supposed to gamble on matches in which they participate, with some leagues asking to not even make any kind of bet on the league or the sport at all, and yet we get to know many examples of this over the years, and those are only the ones which are caught as most likely there are many athletes which break the rules and we never find out about it.

The influence of money will continue those people to do things that supposedly they are not allowed to do. You mentioned about
athletes and enforcers who are engaged with gambling.

Thye are getting a huge amount of money. That's the reason why they are involved
with gambling, not only limited to cockfight but the whole gambling activities
with the involvement of most government officials.

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Quote from: blockman on December 13, 2022, 05:33:40 PM

Quote from: South Park on December 12, 2022, 04:02:05 PM

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Yeah, they're not allowed to participate and enter the gambling premises. Whether it's cockfighting or any type of gambling activity, it's part of the public official's oath that they shouldn't engage in any type of gambling activity or else, when they're reported, they'll take a sanction.
That's for sure but it can't be stopped if there are police officers that are still gambling no matter what the rules and oath they've taken, if they're a gambler, they'll always be a gambler.

Those kind of rules are incredibly difficult to enforce as it is not as if those which due to their profession cannot gamble will actually tell everyone they are doing it, another example of this are athletes which are not supposed to gamble on matches in which they participate, with some leagues asking to not even make any kind of bet on the league or the sport at all, and yet we get to know many examples of this over the years, and those are only the ones which are caught as most likely there are many athletes which break the rules and we never find out about it.

It's part of their oath and I think that they have to accept it but we're also sure that many of them break that rule and oath that they've promised.
I also a lot of those officials that have been involved in gambling and mainly in cockfighting because it's one of the most popular type of gambling in here.
In some gambling houses, I've seen that there's a poster that they're not allowing anyone that works in the government to enter and to gamble.

Government employees aren't really allowed in most casino houses because of their line of work. Even Government officials are prohibited in most places that involve gambling and other sorts of activity that might be associated to such. This is to maintain their reputation clean. They also took an oath before sitting in the position to actually prioritize the public welfare instead of their own interest. Hence, they must abide by it. It's improper to see them gambling because the people might think they are not doing their job and they possibly are using the citizens' tax for their vices.

Reasons such as maintaining the reputation and posing to be a good role model to the constituents are enough reasons for them not to engage in gambling for whatever reasons they might have if they want to. It's a form of self-respect and respect to the people who trusted and elected you as well as to show them that your intention is to serve, and not any other else.

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