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Quote from: Cantsay on December 26, 2022, 07:07:17 PM

Quote from: RILWAN on December 24, 2022, 05:00:41 PM

Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The

It's no longer common now that technology has changed the way if the society. But I still see people gather round to watch if cocks are fighting but this time the fight wasn't stage it just occurred on its own and no one place any bet. They are all there just to entertain themselves.

Quote from: og kush420 on December 26, 2022, 01:33:31 PM

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I once saw bear fighting with dogs. Since I am not the one who enjoys these kinds of activities - so I fainted seeing blood all around. It was very christmas say 10 years ago. I still remember the bitterness of it.

And the worst part is that when the fight is going on you'll see so many people excited screaming meanwhile the animals are fighting desperately to survive.

It's inherent in us we have the animal side of us in the olden days of the gladiators in the Roman era they made slaves fight each other to the death and these are humans, not animals but they are treated as animals we are more savage than animals when it comes to this, in times of wars our savage side comes to defend or assault our enemy, we are both defenders and predators, its something we are born with.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on December 26, 2022, 06:39:26 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on December 26, 2022, 05:39:30 PM

These are natural encounters which it is really just normal that blood would scatter out everywhere not like into those intently made out animal fights like on an arena or something like that.
Yes, its normal to see those bloods considering that they are fighting.Some could be able to bare it out those situations or scenarios and some just cant take it.
Its true that cockfighting is a cultural based kind of gambling on certain Asian countries which it do turns out that theyre really get used to it.
So its up to you whether you would really be that interested or not.

Cultural, traditional, inherited. I had friends in my neighborhood who ended up just like their old man doing the same blood sport when they got older.
Sometimes this kind of thing sticks with you especially if you are the one feeding and taking care of it when your Dad commands you to do so.
Then, there will be a time when curiosity will hit you so you will end up in the same place where they do the fighting, the pit.
Next thing you know you are also breeding a rooster for the same purpose as what your old man did.
I've been there but I never took it seriously, this kind of gambling is so expensive and takes a lot of your time.

Ive known some of my friends turns out that their father was a cockfighting enthusiast or shall we say a gambler who still doesnt like to get involved with this kind of habit on which he isnt really that
interested on making gambling considering that it is really just a waste of money on gambling it out.Its true that this one isnt really that a cheap one when you do place out some bets.
But surprisingly there are lots of people who do really get a fan off on betting with this type which some do make out criticism because of animal
cruelty.

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Quote from: RILWAN on December 24, 2022, 05:00:41 PM

Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The

It's no longer common now that technology has changed the way if the society. But I still see people gather round to watch if cocks are fighting but this time the fight wasn't stage it just occurred on its own and no one place any bet. They are all there just to entertain themselves.

Quote from: og kush420 on December 26, 2022, 01:33:31 PM

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I once saw bear fighting with dogs. Since I am not the one who enjoys these kinds of activities - so I fainted seeing blood all around. It was very christmas say 10 years ago. I still remember the bitterness of it.

And the worst part is that when the fight is going on you'll see so many people excited screaming meanwhile the animals are fighting desperately to survive.

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Quote from: Mahanton on December 26, 2022, 05:39:30 PM

These are natural encounters which it is really just normal that blood would scatter out everywhere not like into those intently made out animal fights like on an arena or something like that.
Yes, its normal to see those bloods considering that they are fighting.Some could be able to bare it out those situations or scenarios and some just cant take it.
Its true that cockfighting is a cultural based kind of gambling on certain Asian countries which it do turns out that theyre really get used to it.
So its up to you whether you would really be that interested or not.

Cultural, traditional, inherited. I had friends in my neighborhood who ended up just like their old man doing the same blood sport when they got older.
Sometimes this kind of thing sticks with you especially if you are the one feeding and taking care of it when your Dad commands you to do so.
Then, there will be a time when curiosity will hit you so you will end up in the same place where they do the fighting, the pit.
Next thing you know you are also breeding a rooster for the same purpose as what your old man did.
I've been there but I never took it seriously, this kind of gambling is so expensive and takes a lot of your time.

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Quote from: BobK71 on December 26, 2022, 07:49:00 AM

The government has always taken action against such a situation. However, if the general public has done such activities, the government is often confused in it. At present, some bad people do this to promote them online. But here they will not be able to make benefit.
There is no chance of coming regularly even if it goes online. Because those who manage or conduct such games are always trying to hide themselves if it is transmitted to online then they will definitely identified. Generally, such games are rarely seen in any community, so the law and forces do not even try to find out with great importance. If such gambles are managed regularly online or offline, then it is certainly possible to eliminate it by local law enforcement.

apart from government restrictions - it is curle to enjoy animal fight
I once saw bear fighting with dogs. Since I am not the one who enjoys these kinds of activities - so I fainted seeing blood all around. It was very christmas say 10 years ago. I still remember the bitterness of it.

These are natural encounters which it is really just normal that blood would scatter out everywhere not like into those intently made out animal fights like on an arena or something like that.
Yes, its normal to see those bloods considering that they are fighting.Some could be able to bare it out those situations or scenarios and some just cant take it.
Its true that cockfighting is a cultural based kind of gambling on certain Asian countries which it do turns out that theyre really get used to it.
So its up to you whether you would really be that interested or not.

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 25, 2022, 06:15:34 PM

Quote from: Odusko on December 25, 2022, 02:43:53 PM

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

the moment the government decrees that the Cock fight is illegal to stop tomorrow for example, even people who are addicted to this type of thing will be scared and will not do it anymore, I say that because we all know that there are police everywhere and this type of fight always has a concentration of many people making a lot of noise and consequently it is something that cannot be organized and not be visible to the police

even if people organize in some distant closed place there will always be someone who will report to the police and the police will come to arrest the person who organized everything, why will this happen? because there are many people who are for animal rights. see that there are many people who do clandestine fights but as people know that the person who is fighting has the brain to decide to fight or not, people do not report it to the police, but in the case of an animal that is being forced to fight, people will report it the police

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Quote from: BobK71 on December 26, 2022, 07:49:00 AM

The government has always taken action against such a situation. However, if the general public has done such activities, the government is often confused in it. At present, some bad people do this to promote them online. But here they will not be able to make benefit.
There is no chance of coming regularly even if it goes online. Because those who manage or conduct such games are always trying to hide themselves if it is transmitted to online then they will definitely identified. Generally, such games are rarely seen in any community, so the law and forces do not even try to find out with great importance. If such gambles are managed regularly online or offline, then it is certainly possible to eliminate it by local law enforcement.

apart from government restrictions - it is curle to enjoy animal fight
I once saw bear fighting with dogs. Since I am not the one who enjoys these kinds of activities - so I fainted seeing blood all around. It was very christmas say 10 years ago. I still remember the bitterness of it.

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 25, 2022, 06:15:34 PM

Quote from: Odusko on December 25, 2022, 02:43:53 PM

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

The government has always taken action against such a situation. However, if the general public has done such activities, the government is often confused in it. At present, some bad people do this to promote them online. But here they will not be able to make benefit.
There is no chance of coming regularly even if it goes online. Because those who manage or conduct such games are always trying to hide themselves if it is transmitted to online then they will definitely identified. Generally, such games are rarely seen in any community, so the law and forces do not even try to find out with great importance. If such gambles are managed regularly online or offline, then it is certainly possible to eliminate it by local law enforcement.

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Quote from: Eternad on December 25, 2022, 07:18:00 AM

Quote from: michellee on December 25, 2022, 07:09:44 AM

Even though it does not look interesting anymore, animal fighting still exists in some areas, especially those that still adhere to customs and traditions that have been passed down for a long time. They thought it was entertainment that could gather many people to see the fight in one place. You won't see it on the street but probably in places that only a few people know about especially those who gamble with animals. And this animal fight will not be found in physical casinos either because government regulations prohibit gambling using animals.

Cock fighting is still very popular on my country even during pandemic that many organizer makes it online. There’s a lot of major tournaments on cock fight here different province with huge prize pool and bets every fight.

Besides cock fighting. Spider fight and pidgeon racing are the seasonal gambling games here that many locals really like to place there bets.

I didn't think that cockfighting was made online. But it will make a lot of people curious because something that used to be done traditionally can now be done online and they don't have to come to the match venue. This might be an interesting event but what about your government? Do they just sit idly by and do nothing as if it's not on their agenda?

Indeed, there are still many traditional games that many people still carry out in one place. And that will continue as long as there is still interest from these people to place bets.

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Quote from: KennyR on December 19, 2022, 07:49:14 PM

Most of the games in which animals were involved were much connected to the tradition and culture. In the name of harming animals more and more activists come out against them. This shouldn't happen, because they're following what is being followed by the ancestors.

mate , not because our ancestors are doing it meaning it is completely correct or right , remember that most of the ancestral act are not doing for the greatness of everyone specially to humanity.

Meaning like cannibalism that some of our ancestor does should be happening still? sorry for the comparison but that is how I see it.

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Quote from: RILWAN on December 24, 2022, 05:00:41 PM

Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The

Exactly, animals fight for gambling is for old age method of gambling. Everything has changed so I don even think Asians are still doing it again. In those days when two Fowls were fighting the audience would even pin knight in the middle of the two Fowls and these two Fowls would be fighting for a very long period of time. Everything has been modernized. Physical casinos do not even moving market like the online platforms.

but it still there Grin

have been seeing those around but at least not like Gladiator fight that human is in the verge of dying .

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Quote from: Japinat on December 25, 2022, 10:32:31 PM

Quote from: Pamadar on December 25, 2022, 06:15:34 PM

Quote from: Odusko on December 25, 2022, 02:43:53 PM

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

That's also the reason why the government is not taking this matter into their hands and just let the public enjoy it freely because they already know that banning it will just worsen the situation. They'll be playing hide and seek with these gamblers all along and waste resources again, so now, they are just riding with it because the revenue will be a big help. Harsh truth, I reckon because these animals are experiencing cruelties just to give people some entertainment.

Think about that in the future these things like bans on cockfighting or anything that could harm an animal, all that will cease to exist and will give way to bans against animal abuse, people who do it will be penalized, And I think that one has a lot to do, in my personal opinion I don't like to see any animal suffer and I think that these things, like Gallic fights and other similar things that imply that animals have to be sacrificed, these things are going to cease to exist because the world is giving a direction towards the protection of animals and it is not a bad thing, it seems to me that it is a very good thing.

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 25, 2022, 06:15:34 PM

Quote from: Odusko on December 25, 2022, 02:43:53 PM

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

That's also the reason why the government is not taking this matter into their hands and just let the public enjoy it freely because they already know that banning it will just worsen the situation. They'll be playing hide and seek with these gamblers all along and waste resources again, so now, they are just riding with it because the revenue will be a big help. Harsh truth, I reckon because these animals are experiencing cruelties just to give people some entertainment.

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 25, 2022, 06:15:34 PM

Quote from: Odusko on December 25, 2022, 02:43:53 PM

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

There are always people who will go against the law to profit. Even if cockfighting is banned, I bet there will be still lots of underground cockfighting appearing every now and then. Worst the operator oftentimes is a government official.

Quote from: Pamadar on December 25, 2022, 06:15:34 PM

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

Rotten to the core politicians and police officials are often the ones hosting illegal events. Or people with strong and influential background and friends that make them untouchable are the one who has courage to go against government regulations and policies.

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Quote from: Odusko on December 25, 2022, 02:43:53 PM

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

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Quote from: harapan on December 25, 2022, 12:33:32 PM

Quote from: noormcs5 on December 23, 2022, 07:57:44 PM

How sad is it to earn your living and money from the cruel killing of the cock fights? I do not think anyone can sleep properly if they saw how cock fighting in being done and here we are talking about earning from this business whether is directly related to conducting this fight or indirectly through gambling on these cock fighting matches.

By the way, if cock fighting was a part of culture and popular among the masses, it would not be banned by most governments. We only see this game being played in certain backward areas and modern people have already abandoned this sports.

I'm not a fan of animal fighting as sport but it's always funny where people choose to draw the line. People use horses for racing, they flog those horses so hard so they can go faster, but that's okay. Scientist use different kind of animals for experiment and a good number of them die but that's okay. People pay millions to see two people in a cage beat themselves with all they've got in the name of UFC and that's okay. People even make fortunes from it through gambling and other ways but that's okay. It's cock fight that y'all draw the line. Funny.

I also feel sorry for the whipping of the horses. I don't think it's right for horses to be whipped either. However, when horses are whipped, they are not forced to exceed their natural capacity and strength. They are encouraged to do what they normally do. Horses are good runners. However, when two cocks or two animals are made to fight each other, there is a high probability that one of them will receive a fatal blow. Also, these fights are not their natural positions. I think the example you gave is not correct. Also, we cannot justify a wrong with another wrong. We have to say that both are wrong.

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Quote from: harapan on December 25, 2022, 12:33:32 PM

Quote from: noormcs5 on December 23, 2022, 07:57:44 PM

How sad is it to earn your living and money from the cruel killing of the cock fights? I do not think anyone can sleep properly if they saw how cock fighting in being done and here we are talking about earning from this business whether is directly related to conducting this fight or indirectly through gambling on these cock fighting matches.

By the way, if cock fighting was a part of culture and popular among the masses, it would not be banned by most governments. We only see this game being played in certain backward areas and modern people have already abandoned this sports.

I'm not a fan of animal fighting as sport but it's always funny where people choose to draw the line. People use horses for racing, they flog those horses so hard so they can go faster, but that's okay. Scientist use different kind of animals for experiment and a good number of them die but that's okay. People pay millions to see two people in a cage beat themselves with all they've got in the name of UFC and that's okay. People even make fortunes from it through gambling and other ways but that's okay. It's cock fight that y'all draw the line. Funny.

Your reasoning may be valid as unnecessary violence is being as a sport or used for gambling purposes such as humans fighting with each other or people using horses to race but these things differ to Cock Fighting. Scientists used animals such as lab rats to test inventions that could possibly help humanity from danger such as Covid. People fighting in a ring such as UFC, MMA, and boxing involve unnecessary fighting to prove who's stronger however it differs too much on Cock Fighting as these kinds of matches are to the death where it ends either with a critically wounded chicken or a dead chicken which is why a lot of people are against it. The same line was drawn on other kinds of animal fighting like Dog fights which are now illegal in most or all places.

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Quote from: Chato1977 on December 24, 2022, 01:20:38 AM

this is like in gladiator times when people loves to bet for the life of others .
aren't we contented in all forms of gambling that we have existed ? there are even thousand kind of game worldwide then why need to put the cocks in the arena and let them die ?
this is not tolerable for me , i rather choose to gamble all day in online or live casino than betting in these animals.

That is the human wants for you, human wants can never be satisfied, it is normal for everybody, just that some of us have better control over it than others.
Most people easily get bored doing or seeing the same thing everyday, so to satisfy their hungry flesh, they crave for new kinds of games everyday, I believe this is how those who start this cock fighting thing came about it.

The fact that we slaughter this animals and use them as food should already be enough punishment, subjecting them to this kind of suffering before their death all for our profit is really uncalled for.

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Quote from: Chato1977 on December 24, 2022, 01:20:38 AM

this is like in gladiator times when people loves to bet for the life of others .
aren't we contented in all forms of gambling that we have existed ? there are even thousand kind of game worldwide then why need to put the cocks in the arena and let them die ?
this is not tolerable for me , i rather choose to gamble all day in online or live casino than betting in these animals.

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

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Quote from: harapan on December 25, 2022, 12:33:32 PM

Quote from: noormcs5 on December 23, 2022, 07:57:44 PM

How sad is it to earn your living and money from the cruel killing of the cock fights? I do not think anyone can sleep properly if they saw how cock fighting in being done and here we are talking about earning from this business whether is directly related to conducting this fight or indirectly through gambling on these cock fighting matches.

By the way, if cock fighting was a part of culture and popular among the masses, it would not be banned by most governments. We only see this game being played in certain backward areas and modern people have already abandoned this sports.

I'm not a fan of animal fighting as sport but it's always funny where people choose to draw the line. People use horses for racing, they flog those horses so hard so they can go faster, but that's okay. Scientist use different kind of animals for experiment and a good number of them die but that's okay. People pay millions to see two people in a cage beat themselves with all they've got in the name of UFC and that's okay. People even make fortunes from it through gambling and other ways but that's okay. It's cock fight that y'all draw the line. Funny.

Yes, people are saying things that they shouldn't be like this and that and asking too many questions about why these certain sports are considered legal yet they didn't know that there's a lot of sports that are far more cruel. Just like the ones you stated mate, people are just choosing where to draw their line and it's just a matter of personal preference. This world we live on are already cruel than what we have thought and there are some things that we cannot change, it's just better to keep ourselves some distance if there's some things that we don't like while also respecting their decisions.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on December 23, 2022, 07:57:44 PM

How sad is it to earn your living and money from the cruel killing of the cock fights? I do not think anyone can sleep properly if they saw how cock fighting in being done and here we are talking about earning from this business whether is directly related to conducting this fight or indirectly through gambling on these cock fighting matches.

By the way, if cock fighting was a part of culture and popular among the masses, it would not be banned by most governments. We only see this game being played in certain backward areas and modern people have already abandoned this sports.

I'm not a fan of animal fighting as sport but it's always funny where people choose to draw the line. People use horses for racing, they flog those horses so hard so they can go faster, but that's okay. Scientist use different kind of animals for experiment and a good number of them die but that's okay. People pay millions to see two people in a cage beat themselves with all they've got in the name of UFC and that's okay. People even make fortunes from it through gambling and other ways but that's okay. It's cock fight that y'all draw the line. Funny.

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