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Topic: Cofound.it ICO evaluation and mentoring platform discussion - page 36. (Read 74107 times)

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Hi,

great question. Yes - and no. I'll go into a bit more detail about our thinking on this - tell me what you think.

One of the functions of the token for the tokenised companies is the function of equity - regardless of how the token is actually defined. Although CFI is defined as a utility token,  for us it also represents equity. We will never sell off parts of the underlying company. The actual legal entity is like a janitor, nothing more - tokens are key.

Given that role we feel that most of the projects sell off too much tokens at the beginning of their journey. There is a reason startups do not sell 85% of their equity in the seed round. It's not about how much money they would receive for it. It's about retaining flexibility for the future. For regular startups that might include selling later, but more importantly it could serve the role of cementing the relationship with key partners. You simply cannot predict everything at the very start - it's wise to keep some sort of reserve for future flexibility.

When a company grows large enough it has to take its place in the value chain with the established players. They have two options - accept the new company or try and squish it out of existence. A share in the equity is typically used to make sure the other companies accept it - then, its success becomes their success.

Something similar holds true for tokenised companies - except that at the moment we're all so small and swimming in such a small pool that the big guys don't care about it. But what happens with Cofound.it in 2,3 years when we really grow? Our plan is to have a stash of tokens we can use to partner with the key players from the old and new economy. This reserve will be on a public address and constantly auditable by all so you can make sure we're not selling it or anything - we will communicate our plans for this transparently (but, again, not for at least 2 years).

And that is the main reason for the 25% of reserved tokens. We do not intend to use them to raise more money, but to ensure our place in the ecosystem.

20% go to purchase Cashila assets and know-how. Cofound.it is built upon the know-how and code developed by Cashila for the ICONOMI ICO and the core of the idea was developed by them, not me or Daniel. Plus, we want to make supporting Cofound.it crowdsales for people new to crypto economy as simple as possible - ideally one-click! For that we need the fiat-crypto gateway and Cashila already has one.

10% go to ICONOMI that supported Cofound.it (and still supports it) both financially and by providing guidance and access to their network.

5% are reserved for advisory team. You've seen our advisory bench and I think you have to agree that experts like those are worth it.

And 15% are reserved for the team, vested over 24 months with a 6 month cliff.

I think that Gnosis has showed that the actual % does not really impact token price. What matters is what happens to the rest - does it hit the market, causing the price to plummet, or not. Team is vested, ICONOMI considers this a long-term investment, and Cashila founders and VCs are experienced investors who realise what happens when you dump tokens so I have no fear of that.

We did not come to this decision lightly. It would be easiest for us to go the usual way and we would definitely have an easier task at communicating our crowdsale. But we are building Cofound.it for the decades ahead and have thought hard about what challenges might await us. Our token distribution strategy reflects that.

Welp, this got a bit too long - sorry Smiley

Jan
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ICO is only 25% of tokens?  Seems low, don't you think? 
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Hi all,

apologies for the lack of replies.

We are focusing on Slack (http://cofoundit.herokuapp.com/) and Medium (https://medium.com/cofoundit) as the main communication channels for our crowdsale and will not be posting an ANN thread in the altcoin ANN section. However, your efforts in reaching out here are appreciated and I am sorry for not getting back - it was unprofessional of me to open a thread and then not answer. I will answer any questions you might have.

Here'a Live Q&A we had yesterday if you want a quick overview of what we're doing and why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x4w8B9AUVU

Jan
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Your ico is scheduled for 7 may but there is no ANN thread of cofound here on forum.This thread is also not updated regularly
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I got an email from ICONOMI today about this ICO.

Some people from ICONOMI team seems involved in Cofound.
ICONOMI is turning its current mentoring program (started in November) into a separate venture called Cofound.it that will provide the same level of vetting and counseling to ICOs that is typically provided to startups by traditional venture capitalists and incubators, albeit in a distributed way.

source: https://www.ethnews.com/iconomi-spin-off-cofoundit-addresses-the-ico-vs-venture-capitalist-dilemma
hero member
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I got an email from ICONOMI today about this ICO.

Some people from ICONOMI team seems involved in Cofound.

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This ICO is so quiet.
Maybe because it is in a wrong section they are holding a token ico and it is in marketplace it should be on altcoin announcement and not here and why there is no ico in the heading all the other ico are with the word in their announcement title,this could be their failure or the team is very ignorant on how to start one.

I don't think that team is ignorant. Because I guess they have ICONOMI support so I think they know how a succesful ICO campaign could be run. Maybe they are just ignore the crowd in here. Maybe the big inversters already lined up. We'll see soon  Cheesy
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This ICO is so quiet.
Maybe because it is in a wrong section they are holding a token ico and it is in marketplace it should be on altcoin announcement and not here and why there is no ico in the heading all the other ico are with the word in their announcement title,this could be their failure or the team is very ignorant on how to start one.
sr. member
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This ICO is so quiet.
sr. member
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Business plan(Cofound.it business plan, May 2017) has ben published.
Here's the link:
https://cofounditmedia.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/documents/Cofound.it_business_plan_z72mHKJ.pdf

Based on this whitepaper,the crowdsale would begin on 24th of this month and will last for a month?

How many coins will be sold out along with the initail bonus?

Hope the cofound team will update all these details here.

"The final 25% of Cofound.it tokens will be sold via crowdsale, starting on May 24th at 11 AM EST / 17 PM CET"
The sale will last for 4 weeks.

Here's the distrubiton details:


threshold: $1M
core goal-soft cap: $2.5M
hard cap: $12.5M

More details:
https://cofound.it/en/
https://medium.com/cofoundit/cofound-it-crowdsale-details-e8db92463194
sr. member
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Business plan(Cofound.it business plan, May 2017) has ben published.
Here's the link:
https://cofounditmedia.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/documents/Cofound.it_business_plan_z72mHKJ.pdf

Based on this whitepaper,the crowdsale would begin on 24th of this month and will last for a month?

How many coins will be sold out along with the initail bonus?

Hope the cofound team will update all these details here.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Business plan(Cofound.it business plan, May 2017) has ben published.
Here's the link:
https://cofounditmedia.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/documents/Cofound.it_business_plan_z72mHKJ.pdf
legendary
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I am also looking forward to know more about cofound.it.The concept is attractive and it will,if implemented well,help both investors and ICO.
With cofound evaluating the ICO for us,half of our job is done.
sr. member
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We are preparing to launch Cofound.it - a platform where the best ICO projects are selected, helped with expert coaches, given promotional funds and showcased to the investor community. The key idea is that the distributed economy can bypass not only industries like banking but also the VC industry.

Once we get everything finalized we'll create the ANN thread, but we'd also like to solicit community input.

If you are investors - how do you decide what to invest in? What kind of evaluation would be helpful to make selection easier?

If you are thinking of an ICO - what kind of services do you think you need?

You can find more about us at https://cofound.it/ and our slack at https://cofoundit.herokuapp.com

Why this thread is not active anymore even you've decided the ICO date?
member
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I invest in trustworthy projects.

talking about trust, I see cofound is mostly ICONOMI - the people who misled and lied to investors for 6months, just to change the revenue model.


Can you expand on this part please? 

ICONOMI changed value return mechanism from dividends to buyback&burn. More information in their thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/iconomi-live-for-today-invest-for-tomorrow-1789926
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I invest in trustworthy projects.

talking about trust, I see cofound is mostly ICONOMI - the people who misled and lied to investors for 6months, just to change the revenue model.


Can you expand on this part please? 
member
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Hope legit ICO do some research before they use your service.

I completely agree - not just our service but any service. Then decide on the best one based on the track record.
legendary
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I invest in trustworthy projects.

talking about trust, I see cofound is mostly ICONOMI - the people who misled and lied to investors for 6months, just to change the revenue model.

Hope legit ICO do some research before they use your service.
member
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So if I want to run an ICO,cofound.it will help me with it.right?Will you also help in financing pre-ico?Why would one should seek your services instead of doing it on his own?After all we have a lots of successful ICOs in crypto world.What additional value will cofound add to it?

That's a great question that cuts right into the core of our value proposition for teams. I'll do a short answer - my co-founder Daniel goes into more detail here: https://medium.com/cofoundit/coaching-blockchain-superstars-8ba4b1dfc9d4

First: we really do not have lots of successful ICOs if we look at the number of hopeful teams - but we tend to lose sight of all those projects that languish in the "12 BTC raised in 3 weeks" zone. If we plot the ICOs on two axis, technical ability and business ability, there are some that score great on both - the superstars. But there are not many of those.



We've spoken with over 30 projects in the past few months. Most of the teams we have engaged with fall somewhere in the middle part of the quadrant  —  typically (but not always) with a very solid technology background but lacking the more business-oriented pieces of the puzzle.

Cofound.it’s value proposition is simple — we bring the missing pieces of the puzzle and create dream teams! In essence, this is the “smart” part of the money a traditional VC investment brings but on steroids since we can leverage a much larger and global network of experts and services tailored to each project.

For teams that work with us, we:
  • evaluate the team, find the best way we could add value and assign world-class experts to work with them
  • assign a head coach to coordinate with the team and the experts
  • cover the promotional costs up-front (20-50k$)
  • help with communication strategy, copywriting..
  • help with optimal ICO parameters (so, "no 50M cap", "no 150% bonus on this specific alt coin"

And - we are free! We take none of the funds received and only a share of the tokens.

Of course all of this is easy to type and harder to do. Look at what we do in the following weeks and months and decide for yourself whether we are fulfilling our promises or not.
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when polo?

when polo to you to

Good luck guys!!!

When polo to you all! Thanks Daparski, if we manage to get community members that are half as engaged as ICONOMI's we'll count it a success.

As a potential investor I want to know how much of a return on my money I can make and the risk of the investment.  This would require:

Likely Expenses per Year -
Prior Profit on "like" business deals to date -
Future "deals" lined up -
Experience of Officers -
Why is your business a need in the industry -
Why is cofound.it the best team for this niche (ie. instead of Blockchain Capital?) -

This is a VC business it seems.  Its coin needs to be treated like stock in a company, not really a form of payment like bitcoin.

Hey ajh,

we'll publish our financial model as part of the business plan in the following weeks where we'll go into details. When you'll plug in your estimate for the number of projects we'll work with and average amount raised you'll be able to see if it makes sense to you.

We are working with some very interesting projects. Some of them will be published before our ICO. Because their going public also includes a PR campaign we cannot launch all at once as then nobody would get any public notice.

Re the need - here's an overview of the state of the VC industry and why the time is right now: https://medium.com/cofoundit/is-there-room-for-vcs-in-a-tokenised-world-712bf111a9b1

Here's a table that gives a basic positioning overview:


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