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legendary
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April 06, 2020, 10:05:04 AM
I wonder if he got his Chloroquine stacked in time?

if your taking it without being sick. it can cause you more issues if you did get sick
if your storing it thinking you can reach for it when grasping for air and hoping that you can breath long enough for the meds to kick in and react.. your too late.

if you really want to self medicate to avoid a hospital room.. get a oxygen tank and a machine that can pipe it to your lungs at a safe positive pressure.
then also get some antivirals and other meds for the other stuff..

or stop licking door knobs hoping to get it asap. and wait it out by self isolating and hope better meds come out later
legendary
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April 06, 2020, 09:28:12 AM
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Lets remember he body is mostly water.
Oxygen is absorved by 60 GHz mmwavelength as is and can be used by 5G, damaging cells, the virus.
5G is not only using 60Ghz wavelenght, but is one of the used.
2.4 Ghz as used in microwave oven oscillates the oxygen atoms, so what ever is in it heats up.
https://ourgreaterdestiny.org/2020/02/5g-60-ghz-oxygen-absorption-you-and-coronavirus/
https://blog.iyannis.com/60-ghz-frequencies-absorbed-by-oxygen/

Barrie Trower: The Truth about 5G and Wi-Fi, 3 Feb 2020 Exeter UK
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=D-BqPnGrtks&fbclid

5G can be a weapon installing 60 Ghz technology in a neighborhood is nothing short of insanity, Imagine a depopulist like Bill Gates or some other nefarious foreign power hacks into it.


Well, if it isn't our old friend Tom Wheeler.  I wonder what he's doing there?

  https://crownheights.info/shlichus/391126/american-friends-of-lubavitch-hosts-annual-benefit/

I wonder if he got his Chloroquine stacked in time?

legendary
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April 06, 2020, 09:04:55 AM

post propaganda and ye shal get rebuttal

so dr 10: ................ and theres the funny.. only 9 doctors.. not 10
by the way. that website is not a website for unbiased both sides open opinion. that site is a quote aggregator that grabbed certain quotes from limited amounts of doctors that fit the website owners personal narative he wishes to push

anyway


so we know that 30% asymptomatic now. 50% very mild. 15% severe 5% critical(no support = death group)
again that 5% is not actual death. but to risk of death if they dont get hospitalised

soo. lets just say 1% critical. which UK has 65m.. so lets call it 650k critical

no we know r0 is 2.6 a week
so imagine january 1st 55 people came to the uk as patient zero.. yep im using numbers in your favour here
doing the maths means that by march 11th when isolations started to only 110k would have 'herd immunity' untested before isolation

so Dr1: thinks millions got herd immune before march 11th to outweigh/dilute the 650k critical risk
but that as i just shown is not the case
its due to self isolation that only scales of wanting 20k deaths of ~65k critical is desired because ~40k rolling occupacy per month is capable... definetly not 650k as it would be more like 500k death

so dr 2:
tries to play numbers games. but doesnt realise. that germwards dont need ventilaters and specialised respiratory staff. they just need a consultant offering antibiotics. there are not enough ventilators or ICU beds or ICU trained staff for something so specific. oh and i do love the callus tone of oh well people die let others die too.. true doctors dont want any preventable deaths. sems more interested in being allowed to parties..
..
reality check.. herd immunity will happen.. but WHEN hospitals can actually have capacity to cope with the critical. so keep your party dress locked away for another few months and think of peoples health not your social life
..
callus person 20 dead and she wont care unless 20k dead (facepalm).. think about it 20k need to die before she decides to not go to the pub

so dr 3: makes sense.. but forgets that partygirl number 2 will want to socialise and mingle with everyone she can. so although she asymptomatic/mild in 30-80% case. she can pass it around so she needs to be told to keep away from people
then when it comes to those who suppose to self isolate but instead go to the beach to like girls faces thinking they are doing the world a favour by spreading it.. then they need to be handed more harshly

the point is. before march11th in uk people were told to socially distance. no isolation.. guess what stupid people ignored it. so yea the government had to up the game due to ignorant people

so dr4: ignores all science of r0 and viral load and thinks no one dies and its just a cough and sniffle
(facepalm)
our planet is a victim of hospital facilities ill equiped. it aint a social drama thing
he says no evidence its any worse than the rhinovirus(runny nose)(double facepalm to this moron)

so dr5: doesnt know numbers or reporting methods.. (facepalm) seems to have been watching too many conspiracy websites about fake death certificates. not realising that doctors report  death to one department and a death certificate department on different days. the ARDS (acute respiratory distress) being the big known corona death symptom when tested positive and also shown other known symptoms that rule out panic attack or asthma

so dr 6:yep he cant answer the question of whats different this time.. because he doesnt know the basics of r0. meaning he BLINDLY assumes its just the flu

so dr 7: says doesnt beleive isreal death numbers.. and italy is only 10% of its yearly number last year
well it would be more then 10% if no isolation.. plus.. its only been 2 months not a year. .. more deaths to come
says no deaths in isreal.. 3 weeks later there are deaths..
seems these people dont realise its the start of a lengthy event. its not the end of a previous years event
as for the countries with low numbers.. well low numbers at start all get a clean ICU be .. but as weeks pass new patients are not getting the same quality hospital service .. because.. hospitals cant cope after a certain level..

so dr 8: yes highly unlikely majority of asymptomatic cases are tested. and thats why those people should avoid being close enough to lick someone elses faces..
if governments on january 9th magically hadn hundreds of millions of tests like a pregnancy test style. then counties could monitor things better.. but they cant. so people have to take responsibility to not pass it on. so it slows the chance of getting to the vulnerable
.. yes as it spreads it gets difficult to monitor.. soo.. the solution.. delay the spread

so dr 9: his maths is flawed .. but lets run with it.... 2m assymptomatic which is still only 99% not even getting it in america
in short.. there is still alot of spread to come.. but only when hospitals can handle it
in short we are still in the calm before the storm
oh and he thinks its a 10k a day flatline case load... nope r0 means the number grows
as for his assumption of wuhan.. well he only compared it to flu.. but doesnt realise that it only compares to flu stats WITH ISOLATION and only at the first wave.. he wouldnt be comparing it like for like if there was no isolation and at the end of the year
sr. member
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April 06, 2020, 08:52:14 AM

Someone produced a legible write-up on some of these doctors and scientists.  Enjoy:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/

Again, why 12? Why not fifty? Or seven?

Ask and you shall receive.  Next installment; 10 more:

  https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/



Lets remember he body is mostly water.
Oxygen is absorved by 60 GHz mmwavelength as is and can be used by 5G, damaging cells, the virus.
5G is not only using 60Ghz wavelenght, but is one of the used.
2.4 Ghz as used in microwave oven oscillates the oxygen atoms, so what ever is in it heats up.
https://ourgreaterdestiny.org/2020/02/5g-60-ghz-oxygen-absorption-you-and-coronavirus/
https://blog.iyannis.com/60-ghz-frequencies-absorbed-by-oxygen/

Barrie Trower: The Truth about 5G and Wi-Fi, 3 Feb 2020 Exeter UK
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=D-BqPnGrtks&fbclid

5G can be a weapon installing 60 Ghz technology in a neighborhood is nothing short of insanity, Imagine a depopulist like Bill Gates or some other nefarious foreign power hacks into it.
legendary
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April 06, 2020, 07:38:24 AM

Someone produced a legible write-up on some of these doctors and scientists.  Enjoy:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/

Again, why 12? Why not fifty? Or seven?

Ask and you shall receive.  Next installment; 10 more:

  https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/

legendary
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April 06, 2020, 04:27:46 AM
do you know why china and south korea dealt with it better than USA..
its simple
the middle east is known for experiencing viruses more often .. the ME of MERS stands for middle east after all
they have better policies.

they actually have more tests and equipment ready. china for instance made a few massive hospitals in weeks but america didnt get its act together until march

the middle east actually test not just those sick. but also people they come into contact with. and if positive those groups are put into full lockdown where they get to stay home if asymptomatic. but visited daily for welfare checks and given food so that they have no need to mingle..

in the UK/US it was more of a lets not go full martial law. lets see if the community can be responsible for themselves.
that didnt work. then it was lets say it stronger and actually warn people to socially distance/isolate but without punishment.

and yet there are some obvious idiots, even on this forum that think its a nothingburger and stil wish to go out and lick doorknobs and sneeze on people like its their right to spread it

US/UK were not testing everyone that came into contact with known people with corona.
UK/US didnt stock up early didnt train staff and didnt shift hospital ward beds around to form isolated wards fast enough

so yea other countries are suffering more then the middle east.

but just imagine how much worse it would be if there was no isolation and no actually trying things.
there is a good responsible reason for social distancing and self isolation.. it is having an affect

once you learn about viral load and run scenarios of with or without isolation you realise the difference
once you learn about r0 and run scenarios of with or without isolation you realise the difference

but if you want to continue thinking there has been zero deaths .. then atleast stop trying to promote a miracle pill.. because you are weirdly thinking there is a problem that needs curing, then pretending there is not a problem.. thus making both sides of your aprroach wrong by your own doing
legendary
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April 05, 2020, 10:43:28 PM
"We want to say to these companies that you don't know when or how we'll strike. We want to eliminate predictability."


It's Time To Track The FDA's Death Toll



The FDA continued forcing the nation's most innovative firms to submit to its command-and-control approach notwithstanding the pandemic.

South Korean is in a far better situation dealing with coronavirus, because its government did not preemptively cripple private testing.

One of the clearest lessons from the current pandemic is that nothing has changed at one of the nation's most powerful regulatory agencies. The FDA is repeating the same mistakes and showing the same arrogance that I chronicled decades ago in articles for the Wall Street Journal, the American Spectator, and other publications.

Dr. David Kessler, who became FDA commissioner in 1990, quickly sought to intimidate the companies that his agency regulates. A laudatory Washington Post article concluded, "What he cannot accomplish with ordinary regulation, Kessler hopes to accomplish with fear."

Kenneth Feather of the FDA's drug advertising surveillance branch boasted:

"We want to say to these companies that you don't know when or how we'll strike. We want to eliminate predictability."


Cool

That blog makes it seem like Kessler was still running the FDA till the second to last sentence (I doubt most ZH regulars ever make it that far): "The FDA’s current commissioner, Stephen Hahn, conceded last week: “There are always opportunities to learn from situations like this one.”

In reality, Kessler was replaced almost 25 years ago and there have been 11 different FDA commissioners since then.  Just more zerohedge clickbait.

So, show us that procedures have changed.     Cool
legendary
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April 05, 2020, 09:50:24 PM
"We want to say to these companies that you don't know when or how we'll strike. We want to eliminate predictability."


It's Time To Track The FDA's Death Toll



The FDA continued forcing the nation's most innovative firms to submit to its command-and-control approach notwithstanding the pandemic.

South Korean is in a far better situation dealing with coronavirus, because its government did not preemptively cripple private testing.

One of the clearest lessons from the current pandemic is that nothing has changed at one of the nation's most powerful regulatory agencies. The FDA is repeating the same mistakes and showing the same arrogance that I chronicled decades ago in articles for the Wall Street Journal, the American Spectator, and other publications.

Dr. David Kessler, who became FDA commissioner in 1990, quickly sought to intimidate the companies that his agency regulates. A laudatory Washington Post article concluded, "What he cannot accomplish with ordinary regulation, Kessler hopes to accomplish with fear."

Kenneth Feather of the FDA's drug advertising surveillance branch boasted:

"We want to say to these companies that you don't know when or how we'll strike. We want to eliminate predictability."


Cool

That blog makes it seem like Kessler was still running the FDA till the second to last sentence (I doubt most ZH regulars ever make it that far): "The FDA’s current commissioner, Stephen Hahn, conceded last week: “There are always opportunities to learn from situations like this one.”

In reality, Kessler was replaced almost 25 years ago and there have been 11 different FDA commissioners since then.  Just more zerohedge clickbait.
legendary
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April 05, 2020, 08:52:24 PM
"We want to say to these companies that you don't know when or how we'll strike. We want to eliminate predictability."


It's Time To Track The FDA's Death Toll



The FDA continued forcing the nation's most innovative firms to submit to its command-and-control approach notwithstanding the pandemic.

South Korean is in a far better situation dealing with coronavirus, because its government did not preemptively cripple private testing.

One of the clearest lessons from the current pandemic is that nothing has changed at one of the nation's most powerful regulatory agencies. The FDA is repeating the same mistakes and showing the same arrogance that I chronicled decades ago in articles for the Wall Street Journal, the American Spectator, and other publications.

Dr. David Kessler, who became FDA commissioner in 1990, quickly sought to intimidate the companies that his agency regulates. A laudatory Washington Post article concluded, "What he cannot accomplish with ordinary regulation, Kessler hopes to accomplish with fear."

Kenneth Feather of the FDA's drug advertising surveillance branch boasted:

"We want to say to these companies that you don't know when or how we'll strike. We want to eliminate predictability."


Cool
member
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April 05, 2020, 08:33:09 PM
Fear mongering. 70K dead in 3 months ok.

The number today doesn't matter alone, you have to look at how fast it's spreading to figure out how much damage it could ultimately do.

55k dead in 2 weeks.

We went from 3k to 70k in the past month.  That's almost 24x.

If it keeps going at that rate it will be 1.6 million on May 5 and 38 million by June 5, and that's just at the peak.  After it peaks, it will drop much more slowly than it went up.

legendary
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April 05, 2020, 08:10:05 PM
Our concern is Del's Highwire talk on CV, at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCnpPjUvdLM. Go to the website for the links and other clarification.





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Now Del's internet talk show, The HighWire, is the fastest growing program in the Natural Health arena with over 40 million views, and his non-profit, ICANdecide.org, is leading worldwide investigations into drug and vaccine fraud that have already resulted in two winning lawsuits against US Government agencies Health and Human Services and National Institute of Health.

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legendary
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April 05, 2020, 06:48:35 PM
You look at what these doctors and scientists say, and only apply things that you want to think about. The funny part is the things you think/speak about are the tiny slivers of what could be said, and they are opposite of most of the rest of it.
all them 12 doctors have flaws
i skipped most o them because they so flawed it went beyond beleif. so i then just picked one to prove a point.. but here goes.. just for u

Dr 1: '1m infections=30 deaths a day for 100days... =3k deaths'
well actual numbers just for US are now ~1m tested positive.. and 50k deaths.. thats ~17x higher
im guessing this doctor thinks he has a IQ of 10.. oops in his maths he means 170

Dr2: jsut makes a financial rant.. no medical or numbers. just points fingers that scientists want to be famous and rich by making speaches and getting seen in media... oh a hypocrit

Dr3: i already explained this one.. but he also just ranted about being afraid of the consequences of not letting people touch each other.. im thinking he has a fetish.. but the numbers. 1 case in 1000 and death 1 in 20k has already been explained.

Dr4: he says about case fatality rate of people in full quarantine. so if no quarantine. like no isolation rules.. the numbers would be far more dangerous. thus quarantine works to delay the spread
he also notes that he thinks its the flu.. however if it was just the flu and the progress of the symptomology was just like the flu.. then doctors would not be having a problem with it... but they are.. so its not the flu

Dr5: '40-50 deaths' during a march 22 interview.. as someone else said.. that guy just dont know his numbers

Dr6: contradicts Dr3's numbers.. by saying 1 in 1000 infected people die.. not 1 in 20,000.. yet still presumes that its normal
(facepalm)
rants about how closing schools because it prevents the kids qickly getting it... no sh*t. and thats the very reason to actually implement the 'stay home' policy. hospitals just dont have the capacity to deal the numbers

Dr7: worries about how the end of the lockdown should be implements but says it should happen BEFORE a vaccine is made..
that sounds more like they are an antivaxxer not a doctor

Dr8: talks about how germany are getting it with mainly old guys
yet stats show:  29 children under the age of 14..... 891 aged groups 15 to 59... 142 aged 60+
also testing was done based on people going into hospital with symptoms related to know covid symptoms and thus tested to be sure... it was not just some random test of dragging people off the street,

Dr9: says only 4000 deaths as of march 9th.. (facepalm)
hes french which has a total pop of 65m.. and says its normal that over 2.6m die a year just from normal respiratory issues..
he is mixing up international numbers vs local numbers to confuse things
heck france only has 730k births a year.. so he suggesting the population is decreasing by 1.5m a year just from 'regular respiratory death.. no one left in 40 years if we folow his numbers.. right,,,
.. or he just doesnt know his numbers

Dr10: just rants about the social life effects.. no medical stat or numbers.

Dr11: just ranting about the business/work impact.. no medical stats or numbers

dr12: just ranting about the isolation impact on work social life.. no medical stats or numbers

........
summary.
non of these "doctors" ever mentioned r0 or showed any compassion or thoughts of those needing hospital care/funeral homes. .. i dont think any of them spent a day in an ICU ward in the last 3 months

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April 05, 2020, 06:25:56 PM
Fear mongering. 70K dead in 3 months ok.
But what is the age mean of those people???
What were their health states BEFORE contacting Covid-19???
Did they die directly from Covid-19 or did they die from their other sicknesses and were simply Covid-19 positive???
Who actually checks and verifies these numbers???

Yes people die that's shit, but hey could we please have the numbers for every war, for every influenza pandemic and for every one dying of hunger EVERYDAY?
24K people die EVERY DAY of hunger (UN numbers). 1K die cause of Corona. I believe we would also be scared, but does that justify undermining all our freedoms, freedom of press, freedom of speech, freedom of movement, open discussion, fact revision, etc. etc? We never did that, people still died, since when do we care?
Just stay thoughtful and switch on your highest senses... STAY WOKE and QUESTION. Do your own research outside of your comfortable model of explanation.

Do you need directions on how to use google?
legendary
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April 05, 2020, 05:11:42 PM
Fear mongering. 70K dead in 3 months ok.
But what is the age mean of those people???
What were their health states BEFORE contacting Covid-19???
Did they die directly from Covid-19 or did they die from their other sicknesses and were simply Covid-19 positive???
Who actually checks and verifies these numbers???

Yes people die that's shit, but hey could we please have the numbers for every war, for every influenza pandemic and for every one dying of hunger EVERYDAY?
24K people die EVERY DAY of hunger (UN numbers). 1K die cause of Corona. I believe we would also be scared, but does that justify undermining all our freedoms, freedom of press, freedom of speech, freedom of movement, open discussion, fact revision, etc. etc? We never did that, people still died, since when do we care?
Just stay thoughtful and switch on your highest senses... STAY WOKE and QUESTION. Do your own research outside of your comfortable model of explanation.
What is your age?
copper member
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April 05, 2020, 05:05:55 PM
Fear mongering. 70K dead in 3 months ok.
But what is the age mean of those people???
What were their health states BEFORE contacting Covid-19???
Did they die directly from Covid-19 or did they die from their other sicknesses and were simply Covid-19 positive???
Who actually checks and verifies these numbers???

Yes people die that's shit, but hey could we please have the numbers for every war, for every influenza pandemic and for every one dying of hunger EVERYDAY?
24K people die EVERY DAY of hunger (UN numbers). 1K die cause of Corona. I believe we would also be scared, but does that justify undermining all our freedoms, freedom of press, freedom of speech, freedom of movement, open discussion, fact revision, etc. etc? We never did that, people still died, since when do we care?
Just stay thoughtful and switch on your highest senses... STAY WOKE and QUESTION. Do your own research outside of your comfortable model of explanation.
legendary
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April 05, 2020, 04:57:48 PM
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The highly esteemed doctors and scientists that are increasingly vocal calling bull on the pandemic....I'm just asking if you know their names.  I'm honestly not interested in what any media outlet has to say about the situation.  I look for the the most reputable scientists and doctors that have dedicated at least a few decades to infectious diseases and listen to them.

Someone produced a legible write-up on some of these doctors and scientists.  Enjoy:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
Again, why 12? Why not fifty? Or seven?
I stopped reading when one of them mentioned "there have only been 40-50 deaths" then checked the date of the article, it was mid March.

We're at what, > 8000 dead and heading toward a half a million cases?
Uh... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

70k dead. And more than 1.2 million infected. As of this writing.

I think the guy was referring to US numbers, but still, even if he was a well intented critic, a criticism with numbers from almost three weeks ago can be tossed.
legendary
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April 05, 2020, 04:35:01 PM
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The highly esteemed doctors and scientists that are increasingly vocal calling bull on the pandemic....I'm just asking if you know their names.  I'm honestly not interested in what any media outlet has to say about the situation.  I look for the the most reputable scientists and doctors that have dedicated at least a few decades to infectious diseases and listen to them.

Someone produced a legible write-up on some of these doctors and scientists.  Enjoy:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
Again, why 12? Why not fifty? Or seven?
I stopped reading when one of them mentioned "there have only been 40-50 deaths" then checked the date of the article, it was mid March.

We're at what, > 8000 dead and heading toward a half a million cases?
Uh... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

70k dead. And more than 1.2 million infected. As of this writing.
legendary
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April 05, 2020, 04:32:00 PM
...

The highly esteemed doctors and scientists that are increasingly vocal calling bull on the pandemic....I'm just asking if you know their names.  I'm honestly not interested in what any media outlet has to say about the situation.  I look for the the most reputable scientists and doctors that have dedicated at least a few decades to infectious diseases and listen to them.

Someone produced a legible write-up on some of these doctors and scientists.  Enjoy:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
Again, why 12? Why not fifty? Or seven?
I stopped reading when one of them mentioned "there have only been 40-50 deaths" then checked the date of the article, it was mid March.

We're at what, > 8000 dead and heading toward a half a million cases?
legendary
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April 05, 2020, 04:27:04 PM
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The highly esteemed doctors and scientists that are increasingly vocal calling bull on the pandemic....I'm just asking if you know their names.  I'm honestly not interested in what any media outlet has to say about the situation.  I look for the the most reputable scientists and doctors that have dedicated at least a few decades to infectious diseases and listen to them.

Someone produced a legible write-up on some of these doctors and scientists.  Enjoy:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
Again, why 12? Why not fifty? Or seven?
legendary
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April 05, 2020, 02:56:08 PM

In other news the drug "Ivermectin" stops SARS-CoV-2 virus in a matter of hours a Monash University-led study has shown
https://www.9news.com.au/health/anti-parasitic-drug-kills-covid-19-in-lab/9d667536-bffe-4c5e-b25c-054627309c4e

there is many issues with many types of drugs
for instance. a drug that does the 'killing' of the virus. does not allow the patients own antibodies to actually fight it. thus no immunity afterwards. and only works while the drugs are in the person system

this is why when giving antivirals they are then checking back later to see if it was the antiviral that destroyed it. or if it was the other meds that boosted the patients longevity long enough for the body to fight it.

the key here is the hope of something that will cause the body to next time recognise the virus, not over react. and just destroy it. without issue...
thats called true immunity.

what we dont want is where a drug does something just to treat the immuno response(breathing difficulty). meaning people will have issues breathing first to then need meds.
what we dont want is where after an infection recovery.. people are not immune. so can get it again within weeks of not taking meds

there is no magic single pill solution right now. and most multiple pill solutions so far are just treating symptoms. and come with their own sideeffect list of their own so they too not perfect. and come with no guarantee of true immunity after

what doctors are prefering is just to keep the patient alive long enough for the patients own body to combat it. meaning the bodies own white blood cells learn to recognise and handle it. and hope that the white blood cells remember how to handle it next season and beyond..

Your bottom-line point is that the medical shouldn't be trusted at all, because there are many issues with many drugs, and nobody is tossing these drugs into the garbage. They are still being prescribed!

God point, though. Also good reason to not trust the medical at all.

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did you actually bother to even read it
one guy moans about 'only 1 in 1000 reported. and death is 1 in 20,000'

do the maths. for every 20 reports there are 1 death = 5%
guess what
the reason why only 1in 1000 reported is because

if we take say 30k people.. 27k will be self isolating and not even get it yet..
of the 3k that get it ~90% wont need hospital care due to non symptomatic/mild.

so 300 reported as the are complaining or more stronger symptoms.. and of that 15 die

so the math works.. but here is the thing
thats only 10% population herd immunity (gathering together and spreading)
just wait until the other 90% decided to mingle...

ill explain it more simply
its only 15 deaths in this example because of self isolation. if all 100% of people mingled in public it would be more like 150
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which 150 death of 30,000 is likesaying out of 11 million in wuhan 1.1m more than mild and 55k death

yep wuhan escaped 55k death and instead got more like under 5k death.. why.. because more than 90% self isolated..

what is not being said is them 90% will get it eventually
a second wave is actually a real risk. not fantasy

self isolation did not immunise the city.. it delayed who gets it. 90% of wuhan have still yet to get it..
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so even by using his maths.. the numbers add up to it being a bad thing
you just have to realise that the event is not over.. this is calm before storm

You look at what these doctors and scientists say, and only apply things that you want to think about. The funny part is the things you think/speak about are the tiny slivers of what could be said, and they are opposite of most of the rest of it.

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