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legendary
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March 19, 2020, 07:42:04 AM
gotta love UK health/science adviser meetings that was broadcast live within last hour of this post


might need to follow their own advice
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March 19, 2020, 07:29:07 AM
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--------------------Inf.DeathsRec.Death/Rec.GDP *
Singapore3131170,00%4,47%
UAE113260,00%3,52%
Romania260190,00%4,98%
Vietnam76160,00%5,66%
Kuwait142150,00%3,90%
Oman39130,00%4,29%
Israel433110,00%7,31%
Macao17100,00%4,98%
Finland359100,00%9,49%
Russia14780,00%5,27%
Saudi Arabia23860,00%5,74%
Belarus5150,00%6,32%
Croatia8950,00%7,18%
Iceland25050,00%8,29%
Qatar45240,00%3,08%
Mexico9340,00%5,47%
Sri Lanka5130,00%3,89%
Czechia52230,00%7,15%
Senegal3620,00%5,51%
BosniaHerzegovina3920,00%9,23%
Malta4820,00%9,30%
Gibraltar820,00%9,76%
Faeroe Islands5810,00%0
Ivory Coast910,00%0
Nigeria810,00%3,65%
Peru14510,00%5,14%
Jordan5610,00%5,47%
Colombia9310,00%5,91%
Cambodia3710,00%6,08%
Latvia7110,00%6,24%
Nepal110,00%6,29%
N.Macedonia4310,00%6,34%
Lithuania3410,00%6,67%
Estonia25810,00%6,68%
Tunisia2910,00%6,95%
Georgia3810,00%8,44%
Serbia8910,00%9,14%
Armenia11010,00%9,93%
Afghanistan2210,00%10,20%
Andorra5310,00%10,37%
Bahrain2561951,05%4,87%
Diamond Princess71275271,33%
Thailand2121422,38%3,71%
Germany123272810502,67%11,14%
Malaysia7902603,33%3,80%
Hong Kong1934954,21%6,20%
France913426460204,39%11,54%
Taiwan1001224,55%6,20%
China809283245704204,61%4,98%
S. Korea85659119474,67%7,34%
Australia63664313,95%9,25%
USA9416154108014,26%17,07%
Azerbaijan341714,29%6,89%
Pakistan30721315,38%2,75%
Japan9233219116,75%10,93%
Iran173611135571019,88%8,10%
Egypt21062821,43%4,64%
India16931421,43%3,66%
Algeria7573221,88%6,65%
Iraq164124129,27%3,31%
Bangladesh141333,33%2,37%
Greece41851435,71%8,45%
Poland28751338,46%6,52%
Ireland3662540,00%7,38%
Austria16464944,44%10,44%
Belgium1486143145,16%10,04%
Portugal6422450,00%9,08%
Jamaica151250,00%6,07%
Hungary581250,00%7,36%
Spain14769638108159,02%8,97%
Sweden1301101566,67%10,93%
Argentina972366,67%7,55%
Italy357132978402573,99%8,94%
Canada72791275,00%10,53%
Lebanon13344100,00%8,02%
Moldova3611100,00%8,98%
UK262610465160,00%9,76%
Indonesia2271911172,73%3,12%
Brazil52942200,00%11,77%
Morocco5421200,00%5,84%
Switzerland31153315220,00%12,25%
Philippines202177242,86%4,39%
Ecuador16831300,00%8,39%
San Marino140144350,00%6,40%
Denmark105741400,00%10,35%
Norway159161600,00%10,50%
Netherlands20515822900,00%10,36%
Cayman Islands110,1#1000,00%0
Martinique2310,1#1000,00%0
Guyana410,1#1000,00%5,48%
Sudan210,1#1000,00%5,66%
Guatemala810,1#1000,00%5,82%
Burkina Faso2010,1#1000,00%6,75%
Panama10910,1#1000,00%7,26%
Costa Rica6910,1#1000,00%7,56%
Slovenia28610,1#1000,00%8,47%
Cuba1010,1#1000,00%12,19%
Turkey19120,1#2000,00%4,31%
Dominican Republic3420,1#2000,00%6,16%
Luxembourg20320,1#2000,00%6,16%
Ukraine1620,1#2000,00%6,73%
Bulgaria9220,1#2000,00%8,23%
Albania5920,1#2000,00%
legendary
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March 19, 2020, 03:15:46 AM
At least the myth (or FUD) that SARS-CoV-2 originated in a lab has finally been debunked by (...) scientists.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm

All conspiracy theorists (or terrorists?) please leave this thread. It's game over now.
Thanks, good bye  Grin
Yeah, no. We know the genome of the virus, we know which family it comes from. The rate of mutation is just too big to realistically be random chance. The actions of the chinese clearly show that they know exactly what they are dealing with.

And in any case, it doesn't actually matter. Deliberate or accident, it came from China and China must be punished.
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March 18, 2020, 11:19:19 PM
Quote
"A small town in northern Italy has reportedly stopped all new coronavirus infections as part of a successful experiment."
What is the name?
Quote
"Professor Crisanti warned that that for every patient that shows symptoms for COVID-19 there were about 10 who don't."
If that is the case immagen the number who already recoved

It seems to affect politicians and celebrities a lot more, homeless people in the sewers seem fine. Have they too many bacteria on them that even viruses avoid them?

Can you read?

Imagine how many people are walking around unknowingly infecting others.

Exactly. This is the problem that we're facing in the US as well. You've got people saying, well we don't have that many confirmed cases so it isn't that bad. But yeah, while we don't have that many confirmed cases that doesn't mean anything if we're not ACTUALLY TESTING PEOPLE.

That's why politicians know this is very serious. I saw an article the other day about Louisiana, where they had tested about 60 people (at the time of the article being written) and I think somewhere in the realm of 28-30 were positive. That's fucking horrid.

This is going to get MUCH MUCH worse.

Before you even can start testing a peer reviewed test must exit. Currently no one knows how accurate or even the same test used wordwide.
legendary
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March 18, 2020, 11:06:01 PM
Quote
"A small town in northern Italy has reportedly stopped all new coronavirus infections as part of a successful experiment."
What is the name?
Quote
"Professor Crisanti warned that that for every patient that shows symptoms for COVID-19 there were about 10 who don't."
If that is the case immagen the number who already recoved

It seems to affect politicians and celebrities a lot more, homeless people in the sewers seem fine. Have they too many bacteria on them that even viruses avoid them?

Can you read?

Imagine how many people are walking around unknowingly infecting others.

This is a pretty good illustration of why a 'lethal' weaponized biological agent is not a very good one.  Difficult to deploy.  A much more effective one only shows on 1 in 10 people which helps it move around an entire population.

Another thing that people get all hung up on is 'well, the country which deployed it will be catch it too.'  That might have made sense 50 or 100 years ago in a more simple and 'innocent' world.  With our current 'borderless' and 'globalized' world the 'enemy' tends to be a class of people more than it is a geographical population.  At least that is how it is conceived of by those who have the resources to develop and deploy such things.  Naturally these people are in no hurry to disabuse the 'useless eater' classes of their antiquated notions.

legendary
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March 18, 2020, 11:04:42 PM
Quote
"A small town in northern Italy has reportedly stopped all new coronavirus infections as part of a successful experiment."
What is the name?
Quote
"Professor Crisanti warned that that for every patient that shows symptoms for COVID-19 there were about 10 who don't."
If that is the case immagen the number who already recoved

It seems to affect politicians and celebrities a lot more, homeless people in the sewers seem fine. Have they too many bacteria on them that even viruses avoid them?

Can you read?

Imagine how many people are walking around unknowingly infecting others.

Exactly. This is the problem that we're facing in the US as well. You've got people saying, well we don't have that many confirmed cases so it isn't that bad. But yeah, while we don't have that many confirmed cases that doesn't mean anything if we're not ACTUALLY TESTING PEOPLE.

That's why politicians know this is very serious. I saw an article the other day about Louisiana, where they had tested about 60 people (at the time of the article being written) and I think somewhere in the realm of 28-30 were positive. That's fucking horrid.

This is going to get MUCH MUCH worse.
legendary
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March 18, 2020, 10:51:34 PM
Quote
"A small town in northern Italy has reportedly stopped all new coronavirus infections as part of a successful experiment."
What is the name?
Quote
"Professor Crisanti warned that that for every patient that shows symptoms for COVID-19 there were about 10 who don't."
If that is the case immagen the number who already recoved

It seems to affect politicians and celebrities a lot more, homeless people in the sewers seem fine. Have they too many bacteria on them that even viruses avoid them?

Can you read?

Imagine how many people are walking around unknowingly infecting others.
sr. member
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March 18, 2020, 10:45:50 PM
Quote
"A small town in northern Italy has reportedly stopped all new coronavirus infections as part of a successful experiment."
What is the name?
Quote
"Professor Crisanti warned that that for every patient that shows symptoms for COVID-19 there were about 10 who don't."
If that is the case immagen the number who already recoved

It seems to affect politicians and celebrities a lot more, homeless people in the sewers seem fine. Have they too many bacteria on them that even viruses avoid them?
legendary
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March 18, 2020, 06:38:22 PM
Austria as of today (red means quarantined).
Can you see where this will be going to, already?
Switzerland, Germany, France, Spain...
From Italy to half of Europe. Within a few weeks. Buckle up!

legendary
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March 18, 2020, 04:04:28 PM
"Infection Trajectory: See Which Countries Are Flattening Their Covid-19 Curve"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/infection-trajectory-see-which-countries-are-flattening-their-covid-19-curve

I recommend everyone be very careful taking anything from zerohedge seriously. Mostly just conspiracy/pseudo science based click bait.

As usual, you show your ignorance and bias by attacking what you think is the source while never actually reviewing anything. The link uses The University of Oxford as a source, but I suppose they publish conspiracy theories too? Get bent.


MORE:

"A small town in northern Italy has reportedly stopped all new coronavirus infections as part of a successful experiment."

https://postnewsd2.blogspot.com/2020/03/a-small-town-in-northern-italy-has.html

"Professor Crisanti warned that that for every patient that shows symptoms for COVID-19 there were about 10 who don't."

legendary
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March 18, 2020, 02:51:31 PM
New report from China that people with A blood group are affected more while O blood group are least affected.

They are claiming this based on just few results.

Source: https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/coronaviruspeople-with-type-a-blood-more-susceptible-to-virus-claims-study/story/398512.html

Also, banks in USA have reduced the loan interest rates to 0 and similarly all other countries are doing the same for helping the banks. The estimated losses of all countries is going to be over $1 trillion.
legendary
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March 18, 2020, 02:25:54 PM
At least the myth (or FUD) that SARS-CoV-2 originated in a lab has finally been debunked by (...) scientists.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm

All conspiracy theorists (or terrorists?) please leave this thread. It's game over now.
Thanks, good bye  Grin
legendary
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March 18, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
"Infection Trajectory: See Which Countries Are Flattening Their Covid-19 Curve"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/infection-trajectory-see-which-countries-are-flattening-their-covid-19-curve

I recommend everyone be very careful taking anything from zerohedge seriously. Mostly just conspiracy/pseudo science based click bait.
legendary
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March 18, 2020, 12:20:15 PM
I found a very interesting resource.
I think this is the best medical resource I saw so far (not a medic here).

These are medics discussing over a Skype Call diagnosis, therapies and best practises dealing with CoronaVirus patient.

Some people here on the forum, whose mother is currently treated in the hospital, confiorms the protocol they are discussing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CegCk3FwvQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR19Uxqe_Bh2QBMBarP4VlW8ZzkQ_SIK_n0IY0nT_PPQTSUC17l8Kz45Oms

if you don't speak italian you can activate subtitles and select your language,. I don't know how reliable are these computer-generated-autotranslated subtitles.

Hope it helps.



Second video from the same medics.
Published yesterday. So more updated.
Thanks to the italian forumer who posted online(he's now quarantined and whose mother is in ICU recovering from COVID) and here a brief index:

Code:

2'40 '' Presentation of the working group (2 minutes ... interesting to understand what this group is ... to listen ...).
05 ': 15' '- 13'49' ': Presentation of data collected by GiViTi (after a couple of minutes some statistics on the characteristics of the intensive covid patients begin to appear. Those who like to analyze data are instructive ..).
13'50 '' - 27'38 '': Cremona experience (super red area, about fifteen minutes ... first patients, organization, therapies, medicines ... then other experiences follow).
27'39 '' - 29'02 '' Small moment of operator discouragement ....
29'03 '- 36'17' 'Lecco Hospital (procedure and history since the COVID tsunami began with perplexity in the preparation meetings .. at the minute 30'10' 'confirmation was given of the underestimation of the extent of the virus, but who has not objectively underestimated it ... I think all of us ... and I in the first place .. I would never have thought of such a thing).
36'18 '' - 43'19 '' training of health personnel using PPE systems and procedures.
43'20 '' Carlo, Piedmontese doctor ... Covid arrived a moment later ... they had prepared a little more than the others ... his experience of a hospital that was not immediately immersed in the fray, but who could see what was going on ...
48'30 '' talks about what they expect ... doubling of patients.
49'05 '' extreme difficulty in patient management ... they are not that easy ... (listen carefully ...).
51'50 '' Gina Emergency (Ebola experience 5/6 years ago in Sierra Leone .. different places and situations but similar emergency x quantity of patients),
54'10 '' how to operate a hospital during the management of this emergency?
56'30 '' expresses the difficulties in the management of the covid patient in a hospital in Italy .. serious problem ... and any systems to prevent the asymptomatic patient from "spraying" everyone, including operators.
58'40 '' COVID 19 infection control prevention, Emergency approach. Valid for hospitals but also for home, at work .. etc etc etc ...
1h 08'14 '' mask duration ffp2.
1h 08'21 '' warm medical advice x staff preparation on patient management in any ward like all COVIDs. Problems in management on departments that were not born to be infectious.
1h 11'25 '' appeal to everyone, doctors and nurses.
1h 12'50 '' lack of devices.
1h 14'50 '' undocumented infections ... serves everyone .. us too, while we are on the street ..
1h 16'40 '' Cremona ... groped to educate nurses who are unfamiliar with this way of working.
1h 18'00 '' Attention to the availability of oxygen that is used ... the use of oxygen in the hospital has increased tenfold ... attention to supplies and that the system is able to stay behind
1h 18'35 '' Delirium in the management of blood cultures ... pay attention to antibiotics ....
1h 19'20 '' Laundry and uniforms ... attention ....
1h 19'40 '' Mask also for patients !!!!
1h 20'10 '' How long can a surgical mask be used?
1h 25'05 '' advice from Lecco (Clara) and Cremona (Pan) at the organizational level of the nurses / doctors tours.
1h 27'30 '' Shortage of personnel and optimization of PPE (PPE monitoring and external organization of personnel) Emergency experience with explanatory slides.
1h 35'30 '' Is it possible to sanitize the masks?
1h 44'15 '' - 1h 46'29 '' management of swabs for positive patient COVID research.
1h 37'26 '' Behaviors x sending biological samples.
1h 39'00 '' urgent interventions on NO COVID patients.
1h 41'43 '' Cremona is no longer a hospital of reference because it lives only COVID and at 1h 43 'minutes we hope that Milan will not start as COVID ... otherwise it's really trouble ...
1h 46'30 '' how a patient is handled without buffer (several false negatives).
1h 48'50 '' - 1h50'56 '' management of immunosuppressed patients.
1h 51'10 '' - 1h 56'34 '' management of relations with relatives (to see .. doctors would not want a similar posting but they don't know how to do it ...)
1h 56'35 '' - 1h 58'34 '' management of relations with family members.
1h58'35 '' - 2h 01'29 '' incubation and quarantine period.
2h01'30 '' - 2h 09'00 'logistics in the management of unidirectional flows in hospitals / covid patient wards.
2h 09'01 '' greetings and renewal to a new meeting next Tuesday (topics on psychlogical aspects of patients / doctors / nurses.
legendary
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March 18, 2020, 08:30:40 AM
Butthurt rambling

Also there is another very simple explanation of all of this. You are wrong.



MORE:

"Infection Trajectory: See Which Countries Are Flattening Their Covid-19 Curve"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/infection-trajectory-see-which-countries-are-flattening-their-covid-19-curve
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March 18, 2020, 08:14:53 AM
68 Countries who have infected but have not reported any death or recovered
42 have reported nobody died from COVID-19 so far,  up 4 from previous day
25 more have died as recovered to this day
The  mostly aged Cruise Ship Passanger recover at a good rate. Strange new infetions , now 712 was 696
Data from Worldometer
* Health expenditure of GDP in 2016.  The winner was Monaco with 1.75%   Source
--------------------Inf.DeathsRec.Death/Rec.GDP *
Singapore266011404,47%
UAE1130260,00%3,52%
Romania2170190,00%4,98%
Vietnam660160,00%5,66%
Kuwait1300120,00%3,90%
Oman330120,00%4,29%
Israel3370110,00%7,31%
Macao130100,00%4,98%
Finland3220100,00%9,49%
Russia114080,00%5,27%
Saudi Arabia171060,00%5,74%
Croatia69050,00%7,18%
Iceland247050,00%8,29%
Qatar442040,00%3,08%
Mexico82040,00%5,47%
Bangladesh10030,00%2,36%
Belarus36030,00%6,32%
Czechia434030,00%7,15%
Pakistan247020,00%2,75%
Senegal27020,00%5,51%
Jamaica13020,00%6,07%
BosniaHerzegovina34020,00%9,23%
Malta38020,00%9,30%
Gibraltar3020,00%9,76%
Nigeria3010,00%3,65%
Sri Lanka44010,00%3,89%
Peru117010,00%5,14%
Jordan48010,00%5,47%
Colombia65010,00%5,91%
Cambodia33010,00%6,08%
Latvia60010,00%6,24%
Nepal1010,00%6,29%
N.Macedonia31010,00%6,34%
Lithuania26010,00%6,67%
Estonia225010,00%6,68%
Tunisia25010,00%6,95%
Georgia34010,00%8,44%
Moldova30010,00%8,98%
Serbia72010,00%9,14%
Armenia78010,00%9,93%
Afghanistan22010,00%10,20%
Andorra39010,00%10,37%
Bahrain2411881,14%4,87%
Diamond Princess71274561,54%-
Thailand1771412,44%3,71%
Malaysia6732494,08%3,80%
China808943237696144,65%4,98%
Hong Kong1684814,94%6,20%
Taiwan771205,00%6,20%
S. Korea84138415405,45%7,34%
Azerbaijan341616,67%6,89%
Iran16169988538918,33%8,10%
Australia45252718,52%9,25%
Japan8822914420,14%10,93%
India14331421,43%3,66%
Egypt19662623,08%4,64%
Iraq154114126,83%3,31%
France77317560229,07%11,54%
Portugal4481333,33%9,08%
Greece38751435,71%8,45%
Germany9367266738,81%11,14%
Ireland2922540,00%7,38%
Algeria6151050,00%6,65%
Austria13324850,00%10,44%
Hungary501250,00%7,36%
Brazil3461250,00%11,77%
Spain11826533102851,85%8,97%
Canada59881266,67%10,53%
Argentina792366,67%7,55%
Belgium1243101471,43%10,04%
Indonesia1727977,78%3,12%
Italy315062503294185,11%8,94%
Lebanon12444100,00%8,02%
USA6509115106108,49%17,07%
UK1957165109,23%9,76%
Switzerland27422715180,00%12,25%
Morocco4421200,00%5,84%
San Marino119114275,00%6,40%
Norway147131300,00%10,50%
Philippines187144350,00%4,39%
Denmark97741400,00%10,35%
Poland23851500,00%6,52%
Sweden119681800,00%10,93%
Netherlands17054322150,00%10,36%
Cayman Isl110,1#1000,00%0
Martinique1510,1#1000,00%0,00%
Turkey9810,1#1000,00%4,31%
Guyana710,1#1000,00%5,48%
Sudan110,1#1000,00%5,66%
Guatemala810,1#1000,00%5,82%
Dominican Rep2110,1#1000,00%6,16%
Luxembourg14010,1#1000,00%6,16%
Albania5510,1#1000,00%6,70%
Panama6910,1#1000,00%7,26%
Slovenia27510,1#1000,00%8,47%
Ukraine1420,1#2000,00%6,73%
Bulgaria8120,1#2000,00%8,23%
Ecuador11120,1#2000,00%8,39%
# Lets give some credit and assume some partially recovered to get past div 0
sr. member
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March 18, 2020, 02:55:23 AM

Some interesting information with some interesting timelines:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J6zm6zgah0


Patient 0 has not been found in China and also not in Italy. Patient 1 is known in both Towns.

68 Vaping, EVALI disease deaths
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html
legendary
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March 18, 2020, 01:44:45 AM

Some interesting information with some interesting timelines:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J6zm6zgah0

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March 17, 2020, 10:25:15 PM


Now I'm reading that a large percentage of people have it with no symptoms. Look at those NBA players like Kevin Durant who have it.
A lot of people have it. What is happpening a test is used what is not peer reviewed normaly such a test is not even developed because it is not worth while to do it. More tests handed out to places, more positeve test. Then you have places like Italy where every doctors offices is closed and everyone must go to hospital which then are full. There is also travelrestriction, it is just a mess.
German scientist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn074EB5NNY&feature=youtu.be
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March 17, 2020, 08:49:41 PM
Now I'm reading that a large percentage of people have it with no symptoms. Look at those NBA players like Kevin Durant who have it.
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