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September 26, 2021, 11:41:13 PM
But corruption is part of every league and lets admit that . you really can't take that out.
It is but you'll not know if there is because mostly, they're hiding it.
None will accept that fact mate even how Visible it is already nowadays.

there are certain decisions that they made in which an obvious questionable but they are standing towards so they are literally showing none professionalism .
Yes.

Even if it's already in front of some, they will just ignore it because they don't want to be the one to be voicing it or else, the eyes of those corrupts will be on you.
And this is the same reason why i stopped supporting sports now a day instead i only act when i am betting in sports gambling but other than that? liek what the old days that i watched and support them?
now it is long gone .
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September 26, 2021, 07:27:56 PM
I think all sports can be rigged... humans are very corruptible 
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September 23, 2021, 02:50:42 PM
It’s not isolated to sports, there is corruption & greed in all walks of life. Don’t be surprised at how shitty some people can be. Expect the worst, look after yourself & your family & you will be OK.
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September 22, 2021, 04:33:13 PM
But corruption is part of every league and lets admit that . you really can't take that out.
It is but you'll not know if there is because mostly, they're hiding it.
None will accept that fact mate even how Visible it is already nowadays.

there are certain decisions that they made in which an obvious questionable but they are standing towards so they are literally showing none professionalism .
Yes.

Even if it's already in front of some, they will just ignore it because they don't want to be the one to be voicing it or else, the eyes of those corrupts will be on you.
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September 21, 2021, 09:23:55 PM
what happened to this thread? i have been seeing this in Gambling discussion section why now sitting here in Off Topic?  Grin
Moved by the mods.

But corruption is part of every league and lets admit that . you really can't take that out.
It is but you'll not know if there is because mostly, they're hiding it.
None will accept that fact mate even how Visible it is already nowadays.

there are certain decisions that they made in which an obvious questionable but they are standing towards so they are literally showing none professionalism .
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September 21, 2021, 07:56:35 PM
what happened to this thread? i have been seeing this in Gambling discussion section why now sitting here in Off Topic?  Grin
Moved by the mods.

But corruption is part of every league and lets admit that . you really can't take that out.
It is but you'll not know if there is because mostly, they're hiding it.
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September 21, 2021, 05:03:13 PM
Wow, there are many aspects under which politicians, political problems have been above sport, just realizing with football there is much where we can say, only remember the shameful scheme of a president of FIFA and all businesses , fixes in world elimination matches and even fixes in the soccer world cup games were made that cannot be easily erased, from there I deduce that the VAR came out, and thanks to the Netherlands, when the referee checks the VAR, now all the Spectators will be able to see what the referee sees on the giant screen of the soccer stadium.

Despite all these facts, corruption for me, lies in these types of acts and in another way with what happened with the world qualifying game with Brazil vs Argentina, recently, these acts make them become corrupt thanks to political problems that They can never be above football, for now it is unfortunately like that.

You think that the fact that the crowd in the stadium seeing what VAR referee sees will make them be fair? I don't think so. If they want or have to invalidate some goal or penalty, they will whether the crowd in the stadium agrees with the decision or not.

My opinion is that there will always be a corruption when big amount of money is at stake.
The corruption will always be there, whether we see it clearly or the corruption is hiding from us. Those people who commit corruption will always do it secretly and pretend that they are clear without any corruption. The corruption itself already happens from the highest level and if they do that,  the law will hard to touch them because they can moves invisible. Until the honest officers from the government have a big effort to search for the evidence, that case will appear publicly. Otherwise, that will still happen for a long time.

Actually, what I see is not the law, it's the fact that it's hard to prove a fixed game, and only a few got caught on that. If it's within inside and no one will talk or no one will show up as witness of the sports rigging, nothing will happen because all we can do is to speculate.

Well the fact is that there will be corruption, but it will not be as easy as before, although there will always be a lot of money involved and that unfortunately it will be above sport, at least people can witness the fraud and that will do have much more noise worldwide to see embarrassing events and that injustice is seen, this will cause many referees to be sanctioned and some will ban them from being in high-level football matches, at least it will help to minimize some of the corruption or it will expose her.

Without going very far, as happened in the Olympic games with the case of the Colombian boxer and the Filipino, which, the Filipino was almost in KO and they gave him the winner, although the Colombian Olympic federation claimed they did not give importance to his appeal , but it actually looked really bad.
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September 20, 2021, 05:38:09 AM
what happened to this thread? i have been seeing this in Gambling discussion section why now sitting here in Off Topic?  Grin

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But corruption is part of every league and lets admit that . you really can't take that out.
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September 20, 2021, 05:13:19 AM
Well, I think corruption or bribery in sports goes back to the sportsman or the athlete himself, because if he really likes his profession and thinks about his future career, then corruption or bribery in sports will not happen because they or the players will definitely refuse. I personally never know if an election campaign says that because usually they only deal with corruption in government circles and not in sports but anyway, if it is done then of course to fight corruption is a good thing.
Corruption can happen in many things and not just in government, so we do not have to be surprised if somehow, it happens in sports. As long as people only think about how they can make fast and hot money without thinking about their career in the future, they will still do that and not stop before the government catches them.
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September 19, 2021, 08:11:11 AM
Well, I think corruption or bribery in sports goes back to the sportsman or the athlete himself, because if he really likes his profession and thinks about his future career, then corruption or bribery in sports will not happen because they or the players will definitely refuse. I personally never know if an election campaign says that because usually they only deal with corruption in government circles and not in sports but anyway, if it is done then of course to fight corruption is a good thing.
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September 18, 2021, 07:53:30 PM
Corruption is all over the place in the world of sports and it is not difficult to understand why, the world of sports is a meritocracy, basically the ones that win receive all the attention while no one really remembers who came in second.
That's true.

Those who are in the second and also 3rd doesn't get that much attention after but it's all about the 1st place. That's why everyone is aiming to be at the top.

Not just about glory, prize and as well as fame.

That's the reality and we can't do much about this. But if you are directly involved and you feel you have valid reasons to complain, you can always make a move and lobby for the justice that you think you deserve. It takes sheer determination to go against all odds.
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September 18, 2021, 07:46:57 PM
I think sponsorships and money play a huge role here. Imagine you dedicate all your life to a sport, become a professional at a certain level and get your first contracts, earn some decent money. You adjust your lifestyle, get a bigger contract and afford more stuff in life. Now you get to the level where you understand that the only way to keep up your lifestyle, to please your sponsors is to take something down your throat or into your veins in order to compete with the world elite. That's actually not funny at all.

We now even see the discussions with technical stuff at the last Olympics where the runners broke all those records because of shoes that were designed differently by a certain company, can't remember the name. But that, on the other hand, is by far not as bad as pimping up your body and risking your health. Technical stuff should be fine for the most part. Technical stuff counts a lot in many sports. It is just where bio-substances come into play that it really sucks, also for us fans.
Corruption is all over the place in the world of sports and it is not difficult to understand why, the world of sports is a meritocracy, basically the ones that win receive all the attention while no one really remembers who came in second.

This means that people will do everything in their power to be the first place and while cheating by using illegal substances is heavy penalized there are many people that will take them as they believe they deserve to win as they have dedicated their lives to the sport, and this is why cheating is so common in sports despite the dislike fans have for cheaters and how much it damages sports in general.

I like to believe that it's happening but the corruption is not rampant, why? because if there's massive corruption in sports, fans are cheated all the time and it's like these people are stealing the real happiness of the fans. I don't want to think that way because once it's in our heads, we will not appreciate the true beauty of sports. Everytime our team loses, we would always think that there's a rig happening, not good.

At the same time approaching the topic in a naive way can also be destructive, especially for your athletes and their development. The best example is bodybuilding and instagrammers: most of them are on juice, but are those average Joes thinking who are hitting the gym 6 times a week and have no idea why they can't get even close to their role models or influencers they like? That destroys peoples' views on life and reality in general. Doesn't sound like a better alternative to me. A lot of great achievements haven't been achieved fully naturally, and it is important to keep that in mind when you are about to challenge yourself or see how hard your own children might work for their goals one day but frequently lose steam because they just look up to those guys who are on gear.
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September 18, 2021, 05:51:40 PM
Corruption is all over the place in the world of sports and it is not difficult to understand why, the world of sports is a meritocracy, basically the ones that win receive all the attention while no one really remembers who came in second.
That's true.

Those who are in the second and also 3rd doesn't get that much attention after but it's all about the 1st place. That's why everyone is aiming to be at the top.

Not just about glory, prize and as well as fame.
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September 18, 2021, 04:12:20 PM
I think sponsorships and money play a huge role here. Imagine you dedicate all your life to a sport, become a professional at a certain level and get your first contracts, earn some decent money. You adjust your lifestyle, get a bigger contract and afford more stuff in life. Now you get to the level where you understand that the only way to keep up your lifestyle, to please your sponsors is to take something down your throat or into your veins in order to compete with the world elite. That's actually not funny at all.

We now even see the discussions with technical stuff at the last Olympics where the runners broke all those records because of shoes that were designed differently by a certain company, can't remember the name. But that, on the other hand, is by far not as bad as pimping up your body and risking your health. Technical stuff should be fine for the most part. Technical stuff counts a lot in many sports. It is just where bio-substances come into play that it really sucks, also for us fans.
Corruption is all over the place in the world of sports and it is not difficult to understand why, the world of sports is a meritocracy, basically the ones that win receive all the attention while no one really remembers who came in second.

This means that people will do everything in their power to be the first place and while cheating by using illegal substances is heavy penalized there are many people that will take them as they believe they deserve to win as they have dedicated their lives to the sport, and this is why cheating is so common in sports despite the dislike fans have for cheaters and how much it damages sports in general.

I like to believe that it's happening but the corruption is not rampant, why? because if there's massive corruption in sports, fans are cheated all the time and it's like these people are stealing the real happiness of the fans. I don't want to think that way because once it's in our heads, we will not appreciate the true beauty of sports. Everytime our team loses, we would always think that there's a rig happening, not good.
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September 18, 2021, 04:01:32 PM
I think sponsorships and money play a huge role here. Imagine you dedicate all your life to a sport, become a professional at a certain level and get your first contracts, earn some decent money. You adjust your lifestyle, get a bigger contract and afford more stuff in life. Now you get to the level where you understand that the only way to keep up your lifestyle, to please your sponsors is to take something down your throat or into your veins in order to compete with the world elite. That's actually not funny at all.

We now even see the discussions with technical stuff at the last Olympics where the runners broke all those records because of shoes that were designed differently by a certain company, can't remember the name. But that, on the other hand, is by far not as bad as pimping up your body and risking your health. Technical stuff should be fine for the most part. Technical stuff counts a lot in many sports. It is just where bio-substances come into play that it really sucks, also for us fans.
Corruption is all over the place in the world of sports and it is not difficult to understand why, the world of sports is a meritocracy, basically the ones that win receive all the attention while no one really remembers who came in second.

This means that people will do everything in their power to be the first place and while cheating by using illegal substances is heavy penalized there are many people that will take them as they believe they deserve to win as they have dedicated their lives to the sport, and this is why cheating is so common in sports despite the dislike fans have for cheaters and how much it damages sports in general.
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September 18, 2021, 01:11:10 PM

If it's systemic the way you described it here, like authorities are also involved, it is probably the worst situation anyway. It is systemic anyway in my opinion because athletes who don't dope know they won't have a fair chance to compete, so they are pulled into the doping system almost automatically.

They are, behind the doors, they don't have any opportunities if the system was already corrupt, the only thing they can do
is to go with the flow. If they wanted to continue playing or being part of the team, they need to comply and they needed
to play the role that the management asks them to act without any further question.

That's the only thing if the system of corruptions already there before players even start joining the team.
Dopers are always one step ahead of anti-doping authorities as the dopers and their doctors can innovate while as an anti-doping authority you don't even always know what you are looking for. You can only find what you are looking for, and if you look for the wrong things you won't be able to detect anything. That makes it a profitable and attractive business practice for doctors: try to be the one who develops stuff that nobody can find or prove you being guilty of taking it. I guess most of the absolute superstars are taking something.

Another truth that we can't see, those people are always one step ahead, whatever plans the execution bodies are planning
Those people already have their own alternatives. The fact that most of them are part of the system, so there's nothing that
really possible unless the government and the whole organization will diminish everything and replace everyone with a high
conscience and very trusted parties.


I think sponsorships and money play a huge role here. Imagine you dedicate all your life to a sport, become a professional at a certain level and get your first contracts, earn some decent money. You adjust your lifestyle, get a bigger contract and afford more stuff in life. Now you get to the level where you understand that the only way to keep up your lifestyle, to please your sponsors is to take something down your throat or into your veins in order to compete with the world elite. That's actually not funny at all.

We now even see the discussions with technical stuff at the last Olympics where the runners broke all those records because of shoes that were designed differently by a certain company, can't remember the name. But that, on the other hand, is by far not as bad as pimping up your body and risking your health. Technical stuff should be fine for the most part. Technical stuff counts a lot in many sports. It is just where bio-substances come into play that it really sucks, also for us fans.
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September 18, 2021, 10:44:47 AM
One of the main problems is that the same people who are engaged in it are fighting corruption  Grin The result is clearly visible in our country, which was caught on the state doping system and now the entire national sport bears heavy consequences in the form of discrimination even against those athletes who were completely clean (at least they were not caught on anything).

Yeah, I think that it is definitely an issue.

The same people who are breaking the rules are enforcing the rules which is a huge issue in my opinion. The regulators are often the most corrupt people that are getting the benefits of these arrangements.

There needs to be a real effort for change from the government and not superficial rules to actually make a difference.
The problem is that humans are too greedy for things and want to get as much profit as possible that they can't reach with their hands.
it will be very difficult for the government (because of course there are good governments, even if only a little) to enforce the law on corruption but on the other hand the people who thwart it are people from within the government itself who make it seem as if the law can be traded and the law becomes soft.
and it is not impossible if the longer it goes on like this the image of the government itself will be getting worse in the eyes of the public, especially in sports lovers.
and sport is no longer a requirement for professionalism and sportsmanship if you see corruption continues to thrive in line with the times.
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September 18, 2021, 09:25:53 AM
One of the main problems is that the same people who are engaged in it are fighting corruption  Grin The result is clearly visible in our country, which was caught on the state doping system and now the entire national sport bears heavy consequences in the form of discrimination even against those athletes who were completely clean (at least they were not caught on anything).

Yeah, I think that it is definitely an issue.

The same people who are breaking the rules are enforcing the rules which is a huge issue in my opinion. The regulators are often the most corrupt people that are getting the benefits of these arrangements.

There needs to be a real effort for change from the government and not superficial rules to actually make a difference.

There's a wide corruption happening if the government is already involved. I think a certain league that is corrupted this much has no chance to earn the fans respect, there's no way the fans would not know if the government is already involved, IMO, only gamblers would love the sports as they can bet in the side that they think is rigged to win.

Well this is not surprising if the government is involve in such activity and we can expect a rampant cheating on various sports and I'm sure if this always happen the sports scene will fade out since many fans would lose an interest to watch the game due to game fixing. But actually we can detect if some fixing happen since for sure we cannot see the players play at their full potential and we can always see a miss play nor obvious calls and play execution.

But I don't also think government is involve in this but maybe we can point out some rich organization which we can see that they are unto sports scene.
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September 18, 2021, 09:22:38 AM
One of the main problems is that the same people who are engaged in it are fighting corruption  Grin The result is clearly visible in our country, which was caught on the state doping system and now the entire national sport bears heavy consequences in the form of discrimination even against those athletes who were completely clean (at least they were not caught on anything).

Yeah, I think that it is definitely an issue.

The same people who are breaking the rules are enforcing the rules which is a huge issue in my opinion. The regulators are often the most corrupt people that are getting the benefits of these arrangements.

There needs to be a real effort for change from the government and not superficial rules to actually make a difference.

There's a wide corruption happening if the government is already involved. I think a certain league that is corrupted this much has no chance to earn the fans respect, there's no way the fans would not know if the government is already involved, IMO, only gamblers would love the sports as they can bet in the side that they think is rigged to win.
There's no way on people to know about those possible rigged games yet these kind of information is something that cant be known unless if you are part of those vips and clubs which are financially capable.
Corruption is something been a default thing on this world doesnt matter which industry you are on because it would be always present or lurks in the shadows which normal joes couldnt really able to know.
It would be always there and there's nothing we can do about it thats why its no surprising that there would be some games which you do seem to be rigged but we cant really give out proofs.
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September 18, 2021, 08:29:25 AM
One of the main problems is that the same people who are engaged in it are fighting corruption  Grin The result is clearly visible in our country, which was caught on the state doping system and now the entire national sport bears heavy consequences in the form of discrimination even against those athletes who were completely clean (at least they were not caught on anything).

Yeah, I think that it is definitely an issue.

The same people who are breaking the rules are enforcing the rules which is a huge issue in my opinion. The regulators are often the most corrupt people that are getting the benefits of these arrangements.

There needs to be a real effort for change from the government and not superficial rules to actually make a difference.

There's a wide corruption happening if the government is already involved. I think a certain league that is corrupted this much has no chance to earn the fans respect, there's no way the fans would not know if the government is already involved, IMO, only gamblers would love the sports as they can bet in the side that they think is rigged to win.
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