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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

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after living day to day athletes forget the reason why they love the sport they are in and it happens to athletes all over the world
the government will not be able to stop corruption in sports because the funds circulating there are very large

in my own country corruption in sports, especially football is very big, even they openly show their corrupt behavior
most of their political promises are bullshit

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 12, 2021, 01:18:38 PM

Corruption is the easiest way that they know to get richer which is too unfair especially to hardworking athletes and people who involve in sports. However, there are still trustworthy people who work fairly. We can't stop corruption but let's hope that more honest people in the world of sports would exist.

It's always been corruption that they do when there's big money involved. There really is unfairness in many things and these corrupt people don't think of being fair with others.

That's why in many things including in sports, they tend to corrupt anything that they can because it is easy for them to do.

Corruptions dictate many things as there is a huge amount of money that involves,

It's hard to terminate this business since there are still many people who are willingly embracing this system, not just for sports but in vast majorities, corruption is present.

I would like to believe from the post above you that there are still honest people who want fairness in their business, while others
continue to entertain corruption. let's wish for more people to realize and stop this dishonesty.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

Yes, match-fixing is very common these days. Corruption is very difficult to defeat.

What is the reason for the ineradicability of corruption (including in sports)?

Now the most widespread social system on planet Earth is capitalism. Capitalism prioritizes profit.

However, if the most important thing in the world is profit, then this means that honor, dignity, professionalism are not very important. It is important to get money (profit). In my opinion, this is a distortion of moral and ethical values.

This distortion leads to the fact that match-fixing is perceived as a type of business. And that's bad.

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Quote from: Victorycoin on September 11, 2021, 11:03:53 AM

Commercialization and corruption have also started burning in the stadium instead of developing sports, it has become a matter of financial transactions and trade no one thinks through entertainment that everyone is starting a new business. Making money is their main goal so corruption is engulfing everything people are willing to do bad things for money each team and their members are playing for money.

The problem of corruption in sport did not just started today. It has started since previous centuries and nobody was ready to fight against it. The rate at which sport corruption is happening in this recent time is alarming even in the bigger sports where big transactions are made. Corruption are not really noticed because many persons decide to pay more attention on government issues maybe they think it's the main source of corruption but sports do have there own share of the cake.

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 12, 2021, 01:18:38 PM

Corruption is the easiest way that they know to get richer which is too unfair especially to hardworking athletes and people who involve in sports. However, there are still trustworthy people who work fairly. We can't stop corruption but let's hope that more honest people in the world of sports would exist.

But corruption is also only possible when there are hardly any rules and monitoring measures. Normally, corruption should hardly exist in developed countries nowadays. But in fact, there are always surprising revelations that show it is still widespread. FIFA can be cited as a good example. Without corruption, the awarding of the World Cup to Qatar would not have happened.

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 12, 2021, 01:18:38 PM

Corruption is the easiest way that they know to get richer which is too unfair especially to hardworking athletes and people who involve in sports. However, there are still trustworthy people who work fairly. We can't stop corruption but let's hope that more honest people in the world of sports would exist.

It's always been corruption that they do when there's big money involved. There really is unfairness in many things and these corrupt people don't think of being fair with others.

That's why in many things including in sports, they tend to corrupt anything that they can because it is easy for them to do.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on September 11, 2021, 05:13:12 PM

In terms of corruption, it is true, this is really like it can't be destroyed, in any field. Even there is happening on the athletes, institutions, clubs, and so on. More if this has been like being a habit. We cannot stop it 100%.

yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich?

Corruption is the easiest way that they know to get richer which is too unfair especially to hardworking athletes and people who involve in sports. However, there are still trustworthy people who work fairly. We can't stop corruption but let's hope that more honest people in the world of sports would exist.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

For some of the people it's the only way to earn something credible which they do not have to pay a shit loads of money from and for them it comes guilt free since they are not getting caught, they are using their freedom in this sector to make easy money since sometimes the money which is generally given go them by the government is not enough..

It might be :
Greed
Necessity
Forced !!! ( At some places, people are a actually forced to accept such kinds of bets since at the end of the day, one unwilling person might take them all to the court and generally everyone gets involved as well )

We do not know the reason but it's something that will continue for the future as well until and unless we have better laws in place.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 12, 2021, 07:40:49 AM

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on September 11, 2021, 09:14:38 PM

yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.

We're all against corruption especially if it's with our favorite team and sports. But those groups are rich enough and untouchable. They really are hard to be caught.
Those corrupt people that are keep doing it under the sports management, they really don't think of anything but only wants to gain for themselves.

That's full greediness, corruption usually came inside, may it be coming from the management, the players, or the refs of the game. I followed basketball most of the time, and there's a theory that says NBA is corrupt, and I somehow believe in that but there's no proof that it's really corrupt by rigging games.

Actually, sports are so corrupt more than we ever see, that's the reality.

We might have seen many people involved in the sports organization do corruption without others or the public knowing. But fortunately, the media can blow up that case because someone reports the case so the corrupt people can get arrest and get punishment. But still, it is hard to eliminate the corruption that happens in the country as that happened a long time ago. But I believe that it is just a matter of time before all of them get caught and no one is trying to do corruption. Even if some people are trying to corrupt, they will get caught too sooner or later.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 11, 2021, 10:44:42 AM

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As far as I know, the only working way (at least from the bookmaker's side) is to look at the volume of bets. If the volume is sharply higher than the average for a regular match (we exclude top events), then such a match is often considered suspicious and bets are returned to all those who have already made them.

Have you came across that scenario where the bets you made were voided. I got bets getting voided but usually those are issues with the bookmaker and not because of manipulation and leaked outcomes. Even if there is corruption in sport you wont be knowing about it until years when there is an investigation that exposes them and by that time nothing changes in the bets you made.

No, but I hear about such cases every year. Obviously, the cancellation of bets for such reasons applies to low-level games and events - for example, in the Champions League it is almost impossible because there are no match-fixing there due to the fact that at a high level there is no economic sense in cheating.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on September 11, 2021, 09:14:38 PM

yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.

We're all against corruption especially if it's with our favorite team and sports. But those groups are rich enough and untouchable. They really are hard to be caught.
Those corrupt people that are keep doing it under the sports management, they really don't think of anything but only wants to gain for themselves.

That's full greediness, corruption usually came inside, may it be coming from the management, the players, or the refs of the game. I followed basketball most of the time, and there's a theory that says NBA is corrupt, and I somehow believe in that but there's no proof that it's really corrupt by rigging games.

Actually, sports are so corrupt more than we ever see, that's the reality.

The reality that we cannot prove due to conspiracy inside, and sports is own by private businesses, so they'll always protect their interest which is to make money, and they can only do that if they will make their sport popular and continue to maintain the good reputation.

Corruptions are every where and yes those business owners will not take such risk if they are just gonna lose money because even if they didn't win the title, they still make money. I'm pretty sure many officers are into corruption as well especially if a team is suffering financially, now that we are still in pandemic, many teams are suffering yet they can still survive simply because the owners are making a good deal with other people, we may not have the proof but corruption is indeed happening.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 12, 2021, 07:40:49 AM

Quote from: tabas on September 12, 2021, 06:18:46 AM

Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on September 11, 2021, 09:14:38 PM

yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.

We're all against corruption especially if it's with our favorite team and sports. But those groups are rich enough and untouchable. They really are hard to be caught.
Those corrupt people that are keep doing it under the sports management, they really don't think of anything but only wants to gain for themselves.

That's full greediness, corruption usually came inside, may it be coming from the management, the players, or the refs of the game. I followed basketball most of the time, and there's a theory that says NBA is corrupt, and I somehow believe in that but there's no proof that it's really corrupt by rigging games.

Actually, sports are so corrupt more than we ever see, that's the reality.

The reality that we cannot prove due to conspiracy inside, and sports is own by private businesses, so they'll always protect their interest which is to make money, and they can only do that if they will make their sport popular and continue to maintain the good reputation.

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Quote from: tabas on September 12, 2021, 06:18:46 AM

Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on September 11, 2021, 09:14:38 PM

yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.

We're all against corruption especially if it's with our favorite team and sports. But those groups are rich enough and untouchable. They really are hard to be caught.
Those corrupt people that are keep doing it under the sports management, they really don't think of anything but only wants to gain for themselves.

That's full greediness, corruption usually came inside, may it be coming from the management, the players, or the refs of the game. I followed basketball most of the time, and there's a theory that says NBA is corrupt, and I somehow believe in that but there's no proof that it's really corrupt by rigging games.

Actually, sports are so corrupt more than we ever see, that's the reality.

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Quote from: Natsuu on September 11, 2021, 10:24:03 AM

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

sports nowadays is mostly consider already as business or profiteering and the essence of the sporting or the enjoyment of the game is not there, officials and even players are acting for the sake of one thing and that is MONEY and not to totally entertain the viewers or bring joy to the fans.
this same reason why sports nowadays are losing supporters and people are now turning into total gambling and not just because they love the sports but how much they can make money.
and in this same reason why corruption is taking part because there are big amount involves in this area, and we cannot change that now.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on September 11, 2021, 09:14:38 PM

yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.

We're all against corruption especially if it's with our favorite team and sports. But those groups are rich enough and untouchable. They really are hard to be caught.
Those corrupt people that are keep doing it under the sports management, they really don't think of anything but only wants to gain for themselves.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

There exist what you may call corruption in almost every profession. You cannot see an ideal profession. However, it is moderated. Some do theirs ethically and organised, then they will appear appear as saints.
Sports itself is a Business and Politics . If these two are not handled well, sports will lose it's savour. Business is to make profits why politics is to influence decisions in your favour. So, we should not expect a Saint from the union of the above two.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on September 11, 2021, 05:13:12 PM

In terms of corruption, it is true, this is really like it can't be destroyed, in any field. Even there is happening on the athletes, institutions, clubs, and so on. More if this has been like being a habit. We cannot stop it 100%.

yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 11, 2021, 10:44:42 AM

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As far as I know, the only working way (at least from the bookmaker's side) is to look at the volume of bets. If the volume is sharply higher than the average for a regular match (we exclude top events), then such a match is often considered suspicious and bets are returned to all those who have already made them.

Have you came across that scenario where the bets you made were voided. I got bets getting voided but usually those are issues with the bookmaker and not because of manipulation and leaked outcomes. Even if there is corruption in sport you wont be knowing about it until years when there is an investigation that exposes them and by that time nothing changes in the bets you made.

I have had some bets voided but it is not because of the bookmaker but because of the game itself.
Anyway, corruption is everywhere and sports is not excluded in this human behavior.
This is true, situations involving corruption of officials will only come to light years later, once somebody brought it to public.
But you can't do anything much when that happens because it was already over, and you can't do anything much about it but accept.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 11, 2021, 10:44:42 AM

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As far as I know, the only working way (at least from the bookmaker's side) is to look at the volume of bets. If the volume is sharply higher than the average for a regular match (we exclude top events), then such a match is often considered suspicious and bets are returned to all those who have already made them.

Have you came across that scenario where the bets you made were voided. I got bets getting voided but usually those are issues with the bookmaker and not because of manipulation and leaked outcomes. Even if there is corruption in sport you wont be knowing about it until years when there is an investigation that exposes them and by that time nothing changes in the bets you made.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on September 11, 2021, 05:00:31 PM

Quote from: boyptc on September 11, 2021, 04:48:53 PM

Yeah.

The sad part is if you accuse them and you have no proof and you've named names, you're likely the one that will be accused of false accusation.

But we all knew that there's really something behind that happens such as corruption but yeah, hard to prove that if you have no black and white proof.

This is why as a normal citizen you would really be ending up on just dealing with the reality even if you do know that theres something behind then but still you cant do anything about it because providing

proofs wouldn't really be that easy nor not even possible and it is somewhat risky if ever there would be some reverse or counter which would really be putting you into big trouble.

Corruption is a global problem which cant really be resolved, it doesn't matter on what industry it do belongs but it would always be present.

We have no choice.

Yeah, sad reality but we have to bear it as that is how the system works even if you're aware that there's something shady that happens.

But you're not in the position to attest whatever is shady there unless you have proof or you're too big to face these people behind any anomaly.

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