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Quote from: KTChampions on September 17, 2021, 06:00:07 AM

One of the main problems is that the same people who are engaged in it are fighting corruption Grin

The result is clearly visible in our country, which was caught on the state doping system and now the entire national sport bears heavy consequences in the form of discrimination even against those athletes who were completely clean (at least they were not caught on anything).

Yeah, I think that it is definitely an issue.

The same people who are breaking the rules are enforcing the rules which is a huge issue in my opinion. The regulators are often the most corrupt people that are getting the benefits of these arrangements.

There needs to be a real effort for change from the government and not superficial rules to actually make a difference.

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Quote from: Quidat on September 17, 2021, 07:38:38 PM

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

sports has turned into a massive business vendor and the key players would want to get the king size from the business. Greed is vertually in all sectors and none is left out. I think for sports there is actually no remedy because the players involved are pillars and organizers of the sporting activities. It's just for the Norma man to play along

Who could really able to resist specially if the offered amount is something you can earn on a short span of time? Of course you would really be agreeing with those kind of terms.
Corruption is something not new not only on gambling industry but on other industries as well thats why its no surprise that there are really instances or incidents might leaked out
which could really tell that there is something behind is happening.Can we get rid of it? No its not and they would do this as long they havent been bust up yet.

Honest athletes who value their own reputation, the reputation of their countries and respect their adversaries can resist such temptations and that is this kind of athletle who is carrying the true meaning of "sport" alive. Unfortunatelly there is no way to get rid of it, because most people think these practices are normal and acceptable since they would also cheat, if they had the opportunity of doing so.

But real athetles don't need shortcuts. They are forged through their effort and integrity. The example of great sportsmen like Usain Bolt don't let me lie: they didn't cheat and were still able to break records and insert their names in history.

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sports has turned into a massive business vendor and the key players would want to get the king size from the business. Greed is vertually in all sectors and none is left out. I think for sports there is actually no remedy because the players involved are pillars and organizers of the sporting activities. It's just for the Norma man to play along

Who could really able to resist specially if the offered amount is something you can earn on a short span of time? Of course you would really be agreeing with those kind of terms.
Corruption is something not new not only on gambling industry but on other industries as well thats why its no surprise that there are really instances or incidents might leaked out
which could really tell that there is something behind is happening.Can we get rid of it? No its not and they would do this as long they havent been bust up yet.

Corruption is already part of human lifestyle, sad to say about this reality. And since money just come and go in gambling industry, it is an easy target for those who want to bribe someone in the agency or any government-related organizations. Now, it is up to the player if he will also join this bad practice or live with his morale intact. Usually, this will arise problem and misunderstanding and the public won't know it up until someone spilled the beans.

Corruption does occur in all sectors of life, even in my own environment where I often encounter corrupt practices. It sounds scary, as many people
have low morale and don't feel guilty about committing corruption. Especially in the world of gambling, where the velocity of money is very large,
it makes sense if there is a lot of corruption. Most people are very easily moved by money, so I'm not surprised that many sports competitions
are supposed to be fair play, match-fixing often occurs in the world of sports. To eradicate corruption is not easy, it takes the role of honest people
who dare to report if they find corrupt practices. Because corrupt practices are difficult to detect if no one leaks and reports. Sometimes
the punishment for the perpetrators of corruption must also be severe, for a deterrent effect.

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Quote from: Quidat on September 17, 2021, 07:38:38 PM

Quote from: Alisha-k on September 17, 2021, 06:36:34 PM

Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

sports has turned into a massive business vendor and the key players would want to get the king size from the business. Greed is vertually in all sectors and none is left out. I think for sports there is actually no remedy because the players involved are pillars and organizers of the sporting activities. It's just for the Norma man to play along

Who could really able to resist specially if the offered amount is something you can earn on a short span of time? Of course you would really be agreeing with those kind of terms.
Corruption is something not new not only on gambling industry but on other industries as well thats why its no surprise that there are really instances or incidents might leaked out
which could really tell that there is something behind is happening.Can we get rid of it? No its not and they would do this as long they havent been bust up yet.

Corruption is already part of human lifestyle, sad to say about this reality. And since money just come and go in gambling industry, it is an easy target for those who want to bribe someone in the agency or any government-related organizations. Now, it is up to the player if he will also join this bad practice or live with his morale intact. Usually, this will arise problem and misunderstanding and the public won't know it up until someone spilled the beans.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on September 17, 2021, 06:36:34 PM

Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

sports has turned into a massive business vendor and the key players would want to get the king size from the business. Greed is vertually in all sectors and none is left out. I think for sports there is actually no remedy because the players involved are pillars and organizers of the sporting activities. It's just for the Norma man to play along

Who could really able to resist specially if the offered amount is something you can earn on a short span of time? Of course you would really be agreeing with those kind of terms.
Corruption is something not new not only on gambling industry but on other industries as well thats why its no surprise that there are really instances or incidents might leaked out
which could really tell that there is something behind is happening.Can we get rid of it? No its not and they would do this as long they havent been bust up yet.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

sports has turned into a massive business vendor and the key players would want to get the king size from the business. Greed is vertually in all sectors and none is left out. I think for sports there is actually no remedy because the players involved are pillars and organizers of the sporting activities. It's just for the Norma man to play along

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on September 17, 2021, 04:59:38 PM

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Corruption in sports cannot be eradicated for two reasons:
1. The difficulty in investigating and collecting evidence of participation in corrupt schemes
2. Too weak punishment at the legislative level

I think similar to match-fixing which is really punishable stuff, this is one of the most common fraudulent activities in sports betting when there is a match-fixing it will take advantage of others and will surely have a win-win situation when there is fixing the match. The punishment if I am not mistaken is should bet must in imprisonment for about a maximum penalty of 10 years. How sad, you will be in prison just because of that fraudulent activity, your juts wasting your time in prison.

That's what would happen if there's corruption in sports, but the words corruption in sports is so deep that there's a lot of things happening inside and it's not only done by a few numbers of people, it's most likely done by the high ranking official in the league and as they have more power to dictate whatever they want to serve their evil purpose.

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Corruption in sports cannot be eradicated for two reasons:
1. The difficulty in investigating and collecting evidence of participation in corrupt schemes
2. Too weak punishment at the legislative level

I think similar to match-fixing which is really punishable stuff, this is one of the most common fraudulent activities in sports betting when there is a match-fixing it will take advantage of others and will surely have a win-win situation when there is fixing the match. The punishment if I am not mistaken is should bet must in imprisonment for about a maximum penalty of 10 years. How sad, you will be in prison just because of that fraudulent activity, your juts wasting your time in prison.

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Corruption in sports cannot be eradicated for two reasons:
1. The difficulty in investigating and collecting evidence of participation in corrupt schemes
2. Too weak punishment at the legislative level

this is indeed possible because of course they do something risky like that with planning and strength from various parties because I believe the perpetrators in this sport corruption case are not only from people related to sports but can be from outside factors and even very possible Once corrupt officials and law enforcement officers are involved, it will be very difficult to stop this because everything is interconnected and protects each other.

related to weak laws is also one of the reasons that is quite strong and the problem in some countries is indeed the policy of the government which is not firm in regulating laws like this which makes corruptors free to carry out their actions without worrying about punishments that befall them.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on September 17, 2021, 01:04:58 PM

So if sports is a business is it necessary that there should be corruption there ? I think we should change our mindset and avoid corruption at every cost. The world would be so peaceful if everywhere there is no corruption and merit existed in every field of life.

this is an impossibility and can only be achieved in imagination.
it is true that the world would be at peace without it.
but we are talking according to the existing reality, humans basically have a greedy side in themselves and what is happening now, especially in sports, of course we know that there can be a good business ground, and in all forms of business believe it or not it will always be there is such a thing as politics, controlling the rights of others and corruption.
I'm talking like this doesn't mean I support this bad thing, but it will always be there even if there are those who refuse and try to eradicate it I think the success rate is only a fraction of a percent of the total corruption in sports, because things like this don't can be prevented except with the awareness of all business people here.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on September 17, 2021, 01:04:58 PM

So if sports is a business is it necessary that there should be corruption there ? I think we should change our mindset and avoid corruption at every cost. The world would be so peaceful if everywhere there is no corruption and merit existed in every field of life.

I'd agree, but it's impossible. In business, money is always involved, and we all know that one of the roots of evil is Greed. Money is a product of greed, and those people that have the capacity to bend the rules have the advantage. The sports industry is a one huge corrupted industry and avoiding this corruption can cause some life to be honest. It would be nice if this can really be removed but in reality even we avoid it, we can still feel it.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on September 17, 2021, 01:04:58 PM

So if sports is a business is it necessary that there should be corruption there ? I think we should change our mindset and avoid corruption at every cost. The world would be so peaceful if everywhere there is no corruption and merit existed in every field of life.

Since God gave us "Free Will", there has always been the one who works for the good and the one who works for the evil.
And when the sport became a business (not just entertainment), there are those people who use the money to invest in sport and grow a team, as well as those people who use sport and a team to corruptly earn money.

It isn't just a matter of changing the mindset, corruption is something that is embedded in everything these days.

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Quote from: Natsuu on September 11, 2021, 10:24:03 AM

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

I agree that now everyone thinks sports is a business and therefore corruption is on the rise. It is possible to prevent corruption by playing as a means of entertainment money is a business that can bring everyone down the administration must be free from corruption and ensure.

So if sports is a business is it necessary that there should be corruption there ? I think we should change our mindset and avoid corruption at every cost. The world would be so peaceful if everywhere there is no corruption and merit existed in every field of life.

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Quote from: mv1986 on September 17, 2021, 08:48:48 AM

If it's systemic the way you described it here, like authorities are also involved, it is probably the worst situation anyway. It is systemic anyway in my opinion because athletes who don't dope know they won't have a fair chance to compete, so they are pulled into the doping system almost automatically.

They are, behind the doors, they don't have any opportunities if the system was already corrupt, the only thing they can do
is to go with the flow. If they wanted to continue playing or being part of the team, they need to comply and they needed
to play the role that the management asks them to act without any further question.

That's the only thing if the system of corruptions already there before players even start joining the team.

Quote from: mv1986 on September 17, 2021, 08:48:48 AM

Dopers are always one step ahead of anti-doping authorities as the dopers and their doctors can innovate while as an anti-doping authority you don't even always know what you are looking for. You can only find what you are looking for, and if you look for the wrong things you won't be able to detect anything. That makes it a profitable and attractive business practice for doctors: try to be the one who develops stuff that nobody can find or prove you being guilty of taking it. I guess most of the absolute superstars are taking something.

Another truth that we can't see, those people are always one step ahead, whatever plans the execution bodies are planning
Those people already have their own alternatives. The fact that most of them are part of the system, so there's nothing that
really possible unless the government and the whole organization will diminish everything and replace everyone with a high
conscience and very trusted parties.

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Quote from: ipanks on September 16, 2021, 04:53:55 AM

But I doubt that the high-level officials will not do something to make their name dirty.

The fact that they tolerate or control the corruption, they are considered as big syndicate as we are talking of million or billion dollar business depending on the popularity of the league, the more popular it is, the more money will come in the form of bets, and with corruption, rigging games is easy and that would result to easy money by those who give tips to big bettors or what we called sharks or whales.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 17, 2021, 06:00:07 AM

One of the main problems is that the same people who are engaged in it are fighting corruption Grin

The result is clearly visible in our country, which was caught on the state doping system and now the entire national sport bears heavy consequences in the form of discrimination even against those athletes who were completely clean (at least they were not caught on anything).

Totally agree. The doping scandal has had an enormous impact on the reputation of absolutely all Russian athletes. Due to the corruption, which has become systemic, many honest athletes have to feel some discomfort from the increased attention given to doping tests and performances at international competitions without the national flag and anthem of their country.

If it's systemic the way you described it here, like authorities are also involved, it is probably the worst situation anyway. It is systemic anyway in my opinion because athletes who don't dope know they won't have a fair chance to compete, so they are pulled into the doping system almost automatically.

Dopers are always one step ahead of anti-doping authorities as the dopers and their doctors can innovate while as an anti-doping authority you don't even always know what you are looking for. You can only find what you are looking for, and if you look for the wrong things you won't be able to detect anything. That makes it a profitable and attractive business practice for doctors: try to be the one who develops stuff that nobody can find or prove you being guilty of taking it. I guess most of the absolute superstars are taking something.

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It seems to me that many people just don't understand how deeply corruption is embedded in sports at all levels. It is so difficult to investigate and provide evidence of corruption in sports that I get the impression that corruption will never be eradicated from sports.

One of the main problems is that the same people who are engaged in it are fighting corruption Grin

The result is clearly visible in our country, which was caught on the state doping system and now the entire national sport bears heavy consequences in the form of discrimination even against those athletes who were completely clean (at least they were not caught on anything).

That's what it is, you are in the same sport, and one person found guilty of rigging games, the whole reputation of the sports will be ruined. That's why it's very serious that the government has to impose a serious punishment on people who are caught rigging games, especially if it's the organization itself as it's a coordinated action and massive cheating is happening inside.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 16, 2021, 05:27:19 AM

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It seems to me that many people just don't understand how deeply corruption is embedded in sports at all levels. It is so difficult to investigate and provide evidence of corruption in sports that I get the impression that corruption will never be eradicated from sports.

One of the main problems is that the same people who are engaged in it are fighting corruption Grin

The result is clearly visible in our country, which was caught on the state doping system and now the entire national sport bears heavy consequences in the form of discrimination even against those athletes who were completely clean (at least they were not caught on anything).

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Quote from: virasog on September 16, 2021, 09:53:36 AM

Quote from: carlisle1 on September 15, 2021, 10:35:06 AM

Quote from: Xinarae* on September 15, 2021, 08:42:21 AM

Quote from: Natsuu on September 11, 2021, 10:24:03 AM

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

I agree that now everyone thinks sports is a business and therefore corruption is on the rise. It is possible to prevent corruption by playing as a means of entertainment money is a business that can bring everyone down the administration must be free from corruption and ensure.

Yes! it's more on business and knowing that there are many influenced that will make more money,
then corruptions is very likely to increase.

Business always matters the most, flowing money makes interest with big names behind.
With the system that always has lapses, we can all agree that those rumors are not just a hearsay but things that really happening.
but to prove is another thing, money already washout all those possible proofs and already done paying who are involved with the possible exposures.

Where there is money involved, there is always bad people who want easy money and they will do corruption. You will find a lot of corruption in sports also but most of the time it does not come on the media. Sometimes the players are also corrupt and they fix the matches even though they already earn a lot of legal money. Greed of money is never ending.

How would we know if there's corruption happening if it's not proven? That's the kind of question we always have in our mind, but we still presume that corruption is really happening since we can see it and sometimes it's too obvious. The organizers will keep doing it as it's been generating a lot of money for them, but they are slowly destroying the reputation of the sports by not making it clean so the fans will have a fair experience in terms of enjoyment.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on September 15, 2021, 10:35:06 AM

Quote from: Xinarae* on September 15, 2021, 08:42:21 AM

Quote from: Natsuu on September 11, 2021, 10:24:03 AM

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

I agree that now everyone thinks sports is a business and therefore corruption is on the rise. It is possible to prevent corruption by playing as a means of entertainment money is a business that can bring everyone down the administration must be free from corruption and ensure.

Yes! it's more on business and knowing that there are many influenced that will make more money,
then corruptions is very likely to increase.

Business always matters the most, flowing money makes interest with big names behind.
With the system that always has lapses, we can all agree that those rumors are not just a hearsay but things that really happening.
but to prove is another thing, money already washout all those possible proofs and already done paying who are involved with the possible exposures.

Where there is money involved, there is always bad people who want easy money and they will do corruption. You will find a lot of corruption in sports also but most of the time it does not come on the media. Sometimes the players are also corrupt and they fix the matches even though they already earn a lot of legal money. Greed of money is never ending.

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