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Topic: Craig W. only claims to be Satoshi, because he knows the real Satoshi is dead? - page 2. (Read 15189 times)

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legendary
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Keeper of the Private Key
Then maybe the moderators here will decide to stop deleting my posts.  Wink

The forum rule is no posting twice in a row under 24 hours. If a fresh thought crosses that genius brain of yours and you have to let us know about it, just edit your last post if its the last post in the thread. If somebody else posts after your post, no need - you can make a new post - and it won't be deleted.

I've explained that to hv_ at least 4 times but its more fun to pretend you are a victim of the Blockstream Conspiracy than actually acknowledge the rules of the forum.

@Nutilda what happened to Bruno?
legendary
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Then maybe the moderators here will decide to stop deleting my posts.  Wink

The forum rule is no posting twice in a row under 24 hours. If a fresh thought crosses that genius brain of yours and you have to let us know about it, just edit your last post if its the last post in the thread. If somebody else posts after your post, no need - you can make a new post - and it won't be deleted.

I've explained that to hv_ at least 4 times but its more fun to pretend you are a victim of the Blockstream Conspiracy than actually acknowledge the rules of the forum.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Well, sometimes when you are so terse and flippant, then moderators can feel that you are not really adding much if any value.

Please don't tell me about adding value on this dying forum. I've seen the signature campaign posters long enough to know the deal.

Their content is like reading gibberish and it's more than welcome. Get a grip dude.

You are likely the one that needs to get a grip, and maybe grow the fuck up.

You need to get so much of a grip that you cannot even make any semblance of staying on topic or trying to provide some kind insight without devolving into blurting out irrelevant and seemingly stream of consciousness nonsense.

You are yet another person that has reached 'Legendary' status on this forum with your systematic practice of posting complete garbage.

Other than Satoshi, Corbra, Hern, Gavin, Finney, and myself, I can think of no other individuals that deserve such an accolade.

And, you seem to be a person who wants to argue or to stir-up irrelevant stream of consciousness shit for the mere sake of it.  

Hard to know, exactly, what potentially insightful point, if even feasible, that you are trying to make.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Well, sometimes when you are so terse and flippant, then moderators can feel that you are not really adding much if any value.

Please don't tell me about adding value on this dying forum. I've seen the signature campaign posters long enough to know the deal.

Their content is like reading gibberish and it's more than welcome. Get a grip dude.

You are likely the one that needs to get a grip, and maybe grow the fuck up.

You need to get so much of a grip that you cannot even make any semblance of staying on topic or trying to provide some kind insight without devolving into blurting out irrelevant and seemingly stream of consciousness nonsense.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Your Blockstream buddy BitcoinFX might disagree with you.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48472954

No, I quite doubt that he would. But I can ask him if you really care.

Again,

Why would Satoshi threaten to dox himself?

Why u think he might? Why he 'left' at all?

The coding genius behind Bitcoin is no longer with us. He not only left us but he left this world.

Although, I understand this message will probably be deleted (and I might be banned). I prefer to speak my mind rather than to tow the Blockstream line.

You are not saying anything that is exactly shocking or innovative, MicroGuy.  

The whole theme of this thread has the idea of satoshi being dead as its underlying premise.

Then maybe the moderators here will decide to stop deleting my posts.  Wink



Well, sometimes when you are so terse and flippant, then moderators can feel that you are not really adding much if any value.

I have had a few of my posts deleted too, especially when they are one liners that do not really add much substance and come off as merely serving as a kind of easy pun joke.  If you get a lot of posts deleted then you might find that you are tending to engage in that kind of a posting style. 

Overall, I don't get too many posts deleted, but I believe part of the reason is that even if I make a kind of smart ass statement, I will also provide some explanation, too, so that probably helps to lower my deletion rate.

Regarding whether Satoshi really is dead, I doubt that anyone really knows, including that fucktwat craig.  Sure, craig might be stabbing in the dark in terms of presuming that if satoshi disappeared (whether dead or not), that he (craig) had a lot of opportunities to present himself as satoshi.  Difficult understand why anyone would believe such a arrogant fuck, such as craig, but sometimes people can either be gullible or just feel that the narrative also fits their purposes, and another side of believing the craig story is that some people like to gamble on the possibility that some kind of outrageous claim may end up being true, and therefore they can benefit from getting on board early to such otherwise seemingly outrageous claim.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Your Blockstream buddy BitcoinFX might disagree with you.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48472954

No, I quite doubt that he would. But I can ask him if you really care.

Again,

Why would Satoshi threaten to dox himself?

Why u think he might? Why he 'left' at all?

The coding genius behind Bitcoin is no longer with us. He not only left us but he left this world.

Although, I understand this message will probably be deleted (and I might be banned). I prefer to speak my mind rather than to tow the Blockstream line.

You are not saying anything that is exactly shocking or innovative, MicroGuy. 

The whole theme of this thread has the idea of satoshi being dead as its underlying premise.
hv_
legendary
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Clean Code and Scale
Sure, but there might be 'no other'

Doesn't matter.  A lack of presence by satoshi doesn't mean we want or need a cheap imitation knockoff:

Wanting original Satoshi Version to run as set up and in stone by Satoshi is pretty much aligned with Satoshi, isn't it ?

Attempting to secure 6000 patents based on Bitcoin and blockchain is not "aligned with satoshi".  The conman wants fiat, you poor, deluded muppet.  He couldn't give less of a shit about Bitcoin.  It's just something he can exploit for gains in his preferred national currency.  You are blind if you can't recognise that.

depends all on your own view - funny 'legal' proof there.

I see that facts - BSV does what Satoshi wanted - no matter of all the rest

All - really all other protocols (gambelling tickers!!) got derailed, hijacked - altered -

call that a success - the price is on a different plate (moaning trolls - what a fun)


What he "wanted", with the information he had that time, doesn't matter. He is not here anymore.

ALTHOUGH, if he was here, I believe he would agree to the conservative design-decisions taken by the Core developers that made Bitcoin more robust.

Nope, more fragile and attackable, cause altered with less genius injections than was built by the real genius, and non-compliant BitCoin the more

Logic is not bendable



Your Blockstream buddy BitcoinFX might disagree with you.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48472954

No, I quite doubt that he would. But I can ask him if you really care.

Again,

Why would Satoshi threaten to dox himself?

Why u think he might? Why he 'left' at all?

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legendary
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https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

Oh brother.  Roll Eyes

Why would Satoshi threaten to dox himself? Can you answer that?

Clearly you weren't dealing with Satoshi, if anybody at all.

Smoking pot while reminiscing about what great pals you and Satoshi were, also inferring that he was killed and his body found covered in feces... all just to promote your altcoin? I would say it was bizarre if it wasn't also pretty low.

Your Blockstream buddy BitcoinFX might disagree with you.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48472954

I have nothing to do with Blockstream ...

 Roll Eyes

The fact of the matter is, Blockstream cannot allow the truth above to be revealed/accepted.

This is because it would throw a wrench in the works in terms of their hidden agenda for Bitcoin.

The fact of the matter is, you 'MicroGuy' are a manipulating liar and also seemingly complicit ...

Your tweet ...
- https://twitter.com/realmicroguy/status/1255153831555497984

"I don't see any of these @blockstream gas lighters on this list.

http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/friends/SatoshiNakamoto "


...

My reply ...
- https://twitter.com/BitcoinFX_BTC/status/1255505028481273856

"Funny that you 'MicroGuy' only appear on the ning account page (which is known to of been compromised) long after the real satoshi had left. Herewith, an earlier snapshot with the only 2 'friends' actually accepted by the real satoshi ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20140307223923/http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/friends/SatoshiNakamoto "


 Roll Eyes
legendary
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Your Blockstream buddy BitcoinFX might disagree with you.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48472954

No, I quite doubt that he would. But I can ask him if you really care.

Again,

Why would Satoshi threaten to dox himself?
legendary
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If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

Oh brother.  Roll Eyes

Why would Satoshi threaten to dox himself? Can you answer that?

Clearly you weren't dealing with Satoshi, if anybody at all.

Smoking pot while reminiscing about what great pals you and Satoshi were, also inferring that he was killed and his body found covered in feces... all just to promote your altcoin? I would say it was bizarre if it wasn't also pretty low.
legendary
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My friendship with Satoshi is clearly documented unlike those here promoting the Blockstream agenda. You can't just friend yourself! An action has to be taken on HIS end!

https://p2pfoundation.ning.com/friends/SatoshiNakamoto



So please go crawl back under your rock until you educate yourself. It's nice to have facts before accusing others of lying.

The fact is Satoshi had been long gone from the public by the time you added him as a "friend" on the P2P Foundation website. His P2P Foundation account was hacked sometime in 2014, so whoever "added" you was the hacker, who incidentally used the website to post as Satoshi and threaten to dox him if he wasn't paid some BTC.

This was the message he left using Satoshi's account on the P2P Foundation on September 9th, 2014:

Quote
Dear Satoshi. Your dox, passwords and IP addresses are being sold on the darknet. Apparently you didn't configure Tor properly and your IP leaked when you used your email account sometime in 2010. You are not safe. You need to get out of where you are as soon as possible before these people harm you.

That is who you were "friends" with.

Maybe you just weren't aware of it, but this occurred over 5 years ago you should have brought yourself up to speed on the matter in this time before attempting to pretend Satoshi was your "friend." LOL. He's your friend about as much as Tom from MySpace is my friend.

The hacking incident was even mentioned on the forum while you were a member.
sr. member
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Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?  Roll Eyes
it is possible that he knew that Satoshi Nakamoto did not want to appear or he was arrested, so he claimed to be Satoshi. But it doesn't matter that he is one of the people who holds the most bitcoins. Now, even if Satoshi appeared, what could he do when bitcoin's technology was in the way? For me, who is Satoshi Nakamoto doesn't matter, who is making the most money in this market. Now I only pay attention to the influencers and they can manipulate the market.

That's no longer news, I mean don't we all already know that Satoshi wants to remain anonymous,  unknown,  in this case, it is very convenient for an attention seeker like Craig W to want to take advantage of that, remember he can not verify that he is actually satoshi despite his claim,
I would say he doesn't know shit, he is just like everyone else with what already know, he can shout all he wants he is satoshi   but fact remains he is not, being one of the pioneer of btc is different from trying to be the creator of btc.
This impersonator will never stop until He is putted beyond the bars because how many cases he has been facing yet not stopping to claim another BS stuffs.

Now His latest issue is this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/satoshi-nakamoto-never-used-bitcointalk-new-claim-by-craig-wright-5244298 That satoshi never used Bitcoin ,Look how funny this stupid CSW is.
hero member
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Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?  Roll Eyes
it is possible that he knew that Satoshi Nakamoto did not want to appear or he was arrested, so he claimed to be Satoshi. But it doesn't matter that he is one of the people who holds the most bitcoins. Now, even if Satoshi appeared, what could he do when bitcoin's technology was in the way? For me, who is Satoshi Nakamoto doesn't matter, who is making the most money in this market. Now I only pay attention to the influencers and they can manipulate the market.

That's no longer news, I mean don't we all already know that Satoshi wants to remain anonymous,  unknown,  in this case, it is very convenient for an attention seeker like Craig W to want to take advantage of that, remember he can not verify that he is actually satoshi despite his claim,
I would say he doesn't know shit, he is just like everyone else with what already know, he can shout all he wants he is satoshi   but fact remains he is not, being one of the pioneer of btc is different from trying to be the creator of btc.
legendary
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Newbies, this is Satoshi's real vision,



That's not possible if the Core developers made design-decisions that would centralize the network towards a few entities that are driven by profit.

I'm not saying those entities are "evil". They only act according to what's necessary for the network.
legendary
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Leave no FUD unchallenged
I see that facts - BSV does what Satoshi wanted - no matter of all the rest

That's not a fact.  That's an opinion.  


What he "wanted", with the information he had that time, doesn't matter. He is not here anymore.

Taking satoshi out of the equation altogether, whether they were here or not, the only thing that has any discernible impact is consensus.  It's fine to have an opinion on which network you believe is a closer reflection to a document written by satoshi, but at the end of the day, it's just an opinion.  

If some people allow their opinion to blind them to the reality that the Bitcoin network is the one that has the:

  • most potent network effects
  • longest chain without cheating with an emergency difficulty adjustment
  • strongest security of any blockchain on earth
  • majority of the community's dev talent working on it
  • largest support from users running full nodes
  • most recognisable "brand"
  • greatest utility and actual usage in making real-world transactions

then there's nothing we can do for them (by the way, @hv, those are what "facts" look like).  

Faketoshi supporters are entitled to their fantasies that they're winning some sort of perceived "moral high ground" and pretending that only they are uniquely placed to know what satoshi really wanted, but the simple truth is, they've lost far more than just that.  They've lost their credibility by following a fraud.
legendary
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Sure, but there might be 'no other'

Doesn't matter.  A lack of presence by satoshi doesn't mean we want or need a cheap imitation knockoff:

Wanting original Satoshi Version to run as set up and in stone by Satoshi is pretty much aligned with Satoshi, isn't it ?

Attempting to secure 6000 patents based on Bitcoin and blockchain is not "aligned with satoshi".  The conman wants fiat, you poor, deluded muppet.  He couldn't give less of a shit about Bitcoin.  It's just something he can exploit for gains in his preferred national currency.  You are blind if you can't recognise that.

depends all on your own view - funny 'legal' proof there.

I see that facts - BSV does what Satoshi wanted - no matter of all the rest

All - really all other protocols (gambelling tickers!!) got derailed, hijacked - altered -

call that a success - the price is on a different plate (moaning trolls - what a fun)


What he "wanted", with the information he had that time, doesn't matter. He is not here anymore.

ALTHOUGH, if he was here, I believe he would agree to the conservative design-decisions taken by the Core developers that made Bitcoin more robust.
hv_
legendary
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Clean Code and Scale
.. snip

too much bla for what??

triggered ?

BSV is just Bitcoin

No shit

just fun
legendary
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I see that facts - BSV does what Satoshi wanted - no matter of all the rest

All - really all other protocols (gambelling tickers!!) got derailed, hijacked - altered -

call that a success - the price is on a different plate (moaning trolls - what a fun)

There's literally a thousand other altcoins out there that "does what Satoshi wanted" according to your very low standards. The only difference between those and BSV is that BSV is being led by a fraudulent conman who insists that he is Satoshi, despite being thoroughly ridiculed by the bitcoin community and never offering a single shred of proof that he is.

I call usership the ultimate measure of success. So far BSV has a very small actual userbase. It is accepted by almost no one, for anything, anywhere. Here's some quick stats for you:

Bitcoin SV
Median Transaction Value   0.00002 BSV ($0.0039 USD)
Active Addresses last 24h   21,220

vs

Bitcoin
Median Transaction Value   0.035 BTC ($266.13 USD)
Active Addresses last 24h   660,855

BSV has spent so much effort into filling its blocks with meaningless transactions in order to say, "behold muh big blocks!" that its totally lost sight of what was supposed to be its main goal: acting as a form of digital currency.

Really, when was the last time you wanted to send 4/10th of a penny to somebody?

BSV is like 99% of other altcoins: a lot of "look what we can do" with nobody actually doing it. If it weren't backed by Calvin Ayre, pumping millions of dollars into propping up its place in the CMC rankings, it would have fallen somewhere between Bitcoin Gold and Bitcoin Diamond, where it should be.

Your response will include the words "troll" and "triggered," because that's all you ever have to say. I don't think you're mentally capable of coming up with an actual rebuttal, but I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.
hv_
legendary
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Clean Code and Scale
Sure, but there might be 'no other'

Doesn't matter.  A lack of presence by satoshi doesn't mean we want or need a cheap imitation knockoff:

Wanting original Satoshi Version to run as set up and in stone by Satoshi is pretty much aligned with Satoshi, isn't it ?

Attempting to secure 6000 patents based on Bitcoin and blockchain is not "aligned with satoshi".  The conman wants fiat, you poor, deluded muppet.  He couldn't give less of a shit about Bitcoin.  It's just something he can exploit for gains in his preferred national currency.  You are blind if you can't recognise that.

depends all on your own view - funny 'legal' proof there.

I see that facts - BSV does what Satoshi wanted - no matter of all the rest

All - really all other protocols (gambelling tickers!!) got derailed, hijacked - altered -

call that a success - the price is on a different plate (moaning trolls - what a fun)
sr. member
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Craig Wright only wants to get public attention, so he claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto. After all, how would Craigs Wright know Satoshi
Nakamoto has died, while Satoshi Nakamoto identity is unknown. Several times claiming he was Satoshi Nakamoto was useless, as long
as can't show proof that craig wright is satoshi nakamoto. Now craig wright is known as faketoshi.

Many people tried to claim themselves Satoshi Nakamoto including Craig Wright. Satoshi Nakamoto did not reveal himself to the public for whatever reason, therefore many people tried to take advantage of that by presenting themselves to be (fake) Satoshi. No body believed Craig Wright when he claimed to be the founder of bitcoin.
Also where is the original  Satoshi Nakamoto , dead or alive , no body knows ?
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