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Topic: Craig W. only claims to be Satoshi, because he knows the real Satoshi is dead? - page 3. (Read 15254 times)

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Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?  Roll Eyes
it is possible that he knew that Satoshi Nakamoto did not want to appear or he was arrested, so he claimed to be Satoshi. But it doesn't matter that he is one of the people who holds the most bitcoins. Now, even if Satoshi appeared, what could he do when bitcoin's technology was in the way? For me, who is Satoshi Nakamoto doesn't matter, who is making the most money in this market. Now I only pay attention to the influencers and they can manipulate the market.
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Be prepared to be attacked on this forum if you fail to tow the blockstream line.

If you try to rip people off by attempting to scam them with shitcoins, you mean.  I don't care how many of you group together to protest your supposed innocence, you're all scum trying to profit from scams.

And there are still horse and carriage maximalists in Lancaster County.

You made up a lie that satoshi was your friend in order to promote your altcoin. That's pretty low.

This just isn't true:

Satoshi who friended me years ago on P2P Foundation was actually a group.

You being "attacked" has nothing to do with Blockstream or BTC maximalism. It has to do with making shit up in order to promote your own investment, which is inherently untrustworthy behavior.
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It's got to the point where he just continues to claim to be Satoshi because he's so far in to his lie that doing otherwise would be so much more harmful than to just keep up with the lies.  He's still got a lot of people fooled.  Plenty of people shoveling money his way based on his claims.  He gives himself up, all those things go away. He's clearly not satoshi, he could easily prove it and has not...Satoshi being dead or not doesn't seem to matter much in my opinion.


I believe it's the same for Bitcoin Cash SV holders like Kevin Pham as well. They won't admit that they were scammed. The shame would be unbearable! Hahahaha!
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Be prepared to be attacked on this forum if you fail to tow the blockstream line.

If you try to rip people off by attempting to scam them with shitcoins, you mean.  I don't care how many of you group together to protest your supposed innocence, you're all scum trying to profit from scams.
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Sure, but there might be 'no other'

Doesn't matter.  A lack of presence by satoshi doesn't mean we want or need a cheap imitation knockoff:

Wanting original Satoshi Version to run as set up and in stone by Satoshi is pretty much aligned with Satoshi, isn't it ?

Attempting to secure 6000 patents based on Bitcoin and blockchain is not "aligned with satoshi".  The conman wants fiat, you poor, deluded muppet.  He couldn't give less of a shit about Bitcoin.  It's just something he can exploit for gains in his preferred national currency.  You are blind if you can't recognise that.
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Just imagine that one day the real Satoshi and his team come out..I would not want to be in Craig's shoes. Grin Grin Grin

Sure, but there might be 'no other'  - Wanting original Satoshi Version to run as set up and in stone by Satoshi is pretty much aligned with Satoshi, isn't it ?

mmmm - whatch his socks rather
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Just imagine that one day the real Satoshi and his team come out..I would not want to be in Craig's shoes. Grin Grin Grin
legendary
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It's got to the point where he just continues to claim to be Satoshi because he's so far in to his lie that doing otherwise would be so much more harmful than to just keep up with the lies.  He's still got a lot of people fooled.  Plenty of people shoveling money his way based on his claims.  He gives himself up, all those things go away. He's clearly not satoshi, he could easily prove it and has not...Satoshi being dead or not doesn't seem to matter much in my opinion.
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I don't think that's true. He just wants to draw attention to himself.
Drawing attention to himself and he's telling an untruth to be Satoshi cause Satoshi is dead to be more popular? We need to think like a con person to understand CW intentions and i can assure that all his claims to be Satoshi cant just start in a day if it wasn't planned very well or have some group support.
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It's been 3 years and still, the topic is very lively.

I had this thought when I watched that video. The only way you can actually claim ones position in life is mostly when the person is dead. Good point but.... No matter who's dead and who's alive, bitcoin lives till the day after tomorrow!! ♥
It makes sense 'cause CW won't have any confidence if he knew that the real satoshi is still living.
First of all, Satoshi is not dead and never will he be cause every genuine bitcoin enthusiast are also Satoshi since they share and investment in his dream. However, I dont believe CW was claiming to be Satoshi because the real Satoshi is dead for the mission of people like CW who are always con all the day of their live dont usually bring something good. What I'm saying is that the purpose of his act maybe a bargain between him and an organization which totally was to see bitcoin vaporize which may have promise to gave CW something worth it for himself to do all his silly act.

And there are possibilities that CW might know the personality of Satoshi Nakamoto, maybe he's claiming the title for his friend.
He didnt know Satoshi personality but he's trying to expose his personality for a dirty purpose and thats the reason why he took different form of lies/excuses.


this has been discussed o many times and we have made a conclusion that craig is not satoshi but faketoshi. By discussing him again and again we are doing what he exactly want i.e. giving him popularity. so I suggest all members not to discuss this faketoshi.

"I knew Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi Nakamoto was a friend of mine. And you Sir are no Satoshi Nakamoto."

https://p2pfoundation.ning.com/friends/SatoshiNakamoto
I check the link to your profile provided by gmaxwell and stated the above message you posted and with what you have been doing on this forum and the forum provided by gmaxwell since the day you sign up people like you dont have any right to mention the name of Satoshi.
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The theory of Satoshi being dead is a plausible one (relatively, as is the theory aliens kidnapped Satoshi)

Or the theory that satoshi was an alien and simply returned to their home planet, where the vast distance of space means satoshi's transactions don't sync with Earth's copy of the blockchain.    Cheesy

But back on a serious note, nothing about satoshi has to be proven, because we only need to prove who satoshi isn't.  And it definitely isn't faketoshi.  That much is beyond doubt now.

Jesus, imagine what happens when the light transmitting those txs eventually get picked up by Blockstream's satellite network. The miner including those fees should be rubbing their hands nicely together.

But we don't actually have to prove who satoshi isn't, to me, if you can't prove it (and the burden is on the claimant), then you're not. Elimination process would be endless. Best thing is, anyone who claims and can't instantly prove it, has been eliminated, no matter how hard they insist they aren't.

These guys really need to be more entertaining. So drab, boo.
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The myth of satoshi identity that I usually consider to be true, is that satoshi is not a person but an organisation, organisation with government support. It is difficult now for anyone to claim the glory. I also believe America security agent knows too much on the invention. I dont expect such an approach given from countries like USA, Russia and China to the currency. They are liberal and tolerable to bitcoin especially and some developments that allow its adoption. This countries hold the largest share of the space and keep on encouraging the mining. In a time like this that the coin shows reason for global and government adoptions, some people are leaving for fiat that have so lost value.
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The theory of Satoshi being dead is a plausible one (relatively, as is the theory aliens kidnapped Satoshi)

Or the theory that satoshi was an alien and simply returned to their home planet, where the vast distance of space means satoshi's transactions don't sync with Earth's copy of the blockchain.    Cheesy

But back on a serious note, nothing about satoshi has to be proven, because we only need to prove who satoshi isn't.  And it definitely isn't faketoshi.  That much is beyond doubt now.

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I don’t know if this is true or not, but you do have a point here. It might be that Craig Wright knows about this Satoshi Nakamoto and maybe the real person is dead and he then decides to claim that he’s the one so that he can take all the glory.

Or maybe he took the courage to do so, because he saw other people that has been claiming to be the real Satoshi that nothing was done to them. You just can’t tell. And moreover, I am not wishing that Satoshi be dead, because I am hoping that one day he would show up and reveal himself and take the spot he deserves. I seriously want to see who the real Satoshi Nakamoto is, and I don’t want him to die , not yet lol.

Just take a few minutes to read up. And you'll realise he has no point. The theory of Satoshi being dead is a plausible one (relatively, as is the theory aliens kidnapped Satoshi), but the discussions that follow this particular thread of CW knowing stuff, has no merit, is full of holes and contradictions. It is extremely easy to:
- prove Satoshi is dead.
- prove any claim of being Satoshi.

Yet none of the claimants have been able to do anything other than peddle fantasy stories not even really interesting.
legendary
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It's been 3 years and still, the topic is very lively.

I had this thought when I watched that video. The only way you can actually claim ones position in life is mostly when the person is dead. Good point but.... No matter who's dead and who's alive, bitcoin lives till the day after tomorrow!! ♥
It makes sense 'cause CW won't have any confidence if he knew that the real satoshi is still living.

And there are possibilities that CW might know the personality of Satoshi Nakamoto, maybe he's claiming the title for his friend.

But still, I doubt that CW will make and receive the approval of those judges since he lacks a lot of evidence even the basic one to help him in the court, so probably he's a fraud. Roll Eyes
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I had this thought when I watched that video. The only way you can actually claim ones position in life is mostly when the person is dead. Good point but.... No matter who's dead and who's alive, bitcoin lives till the day after tomorrow!! ♥
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Craig Wright only wants to get public attention, so he claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto. After all, how would Craigs Wright know Satoshi
Nakamoto has died, while Satoshi Nakamoto identity is unknown. Several times claiming he was Satoshi Nakamoto was useless, as long
as can't show proof that craig wright is satoshi nakamoto. Now craig wright is known as faketoshi.
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Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?  Roll Eyes
How do he knows the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto? And how he knew that SN was dead already? A lot of people probably is searching for the real person behind the inventor of bitcoin. But no one get any idea about him. If CW is saying that he is SN and he keeps on making announcements that he is the person behind while proofs and other events telling the people he isn't it. He just making some noise.
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Someone in the forum once said that, the anti-Core trolls, have not brought their A-game yet. Their clout-chasing moves might be the start for another one of their disinformation rampage in the forum again.

They want to trick newbies to take their narratives for truth because, "look I know Satoshi, I have clout".


Reading the Satoshi White-Paper and having no heavy hodl bags - get Bitcoin on a higher abstraction level than a ticker - is always best way to get into and understand the matter.


What's that have to do with anti-Core trolls, that gaslight, and spread disinformation to trick the newbies?

Plus every forked shitcoin is after the ticker. They want to be "the Bitcoin, BTC", but no, they can never be. The community can't be tricked by frauds, and con-artists.

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Validation of Wright's evidence is a question for a technical expert. Gavin had sufficient expertise to demand the right things-- he had even previously published a more or less reasonable laundry list-- and he didn't. He also knew enough to know the basic limits of his expertise, such as being unable to determine if a random windows PC had been tampered with. Most importantly, he should have known that he was being asked to participate because his enforcement would be taken as a high degree of assurance, nearly proof, by the media and the public -- and as a result deserved either an appropriately diligent vetting on his part or a refusal to participate if he was unable or uninterested in providing one.

From my perspective it was just another example of a long history of poor judgement.
 
The fact that anyone can be tricked is why it's so much more important for people who will be perceived to be an authority to make an extra effort to not get tricked or just not play along.  So I think here the issue isn't so much that wright tricked him, it's that he shouldn't have been exposed in the first place, and that to this day he still has do little to nothing to walk back the damage.  Wright suckers still continue to cite his equivocation as evidence to support wright. I  think Ver is one of the less ethical people around cryptocurrency, and yet even Ver did better and eventually provided an unequivocated statement against wright's claims.


I have often seen people with a list of "thinks to ask and do" crumble under pressure in court or in a pressure setting. Wright would have known Gavins strong desire for being shown a demonstration of proof. Wright would have carefully spelled out his demands and "walked away" if he felt the ruse wouldn't work due to his demands not being met. With other situations his temper and demeanor resulted in him intimidating others or throwing his toys out of the cot. Gavin appears to be a relatively placid character.

To verify it properly it either needs to be able to pass public scrutiny or requires a "James Randi" of Crypto to verify it properly using carefully prepared tests. The demonstrator should never set the limits or scrutiny of the test.  The test needs to be designed by those that verify it.

Wright has the perfect chance to prove it in the Kleiman and McCormack case. Where the court determines conduct and demeanor. The lawyers and experts will determine the tests.

If he does not utilize the opportunity to prove it then he will still be held liable for his claims. For the case to succeed they do not have to prove that he is or isn't Satoshi. They just have to prove that his conduct means Kleiman is eligible for compensation.

Under "fair comment" McCormack only has to prove that based on the publicly available information that in McCormacks opinion he is not Satoshi.

The BSV camp will try to claim victory while facing complete failure. Because despite the claims that evidence will be provided by Craig that he is Satoshi I am of the opinion that it will not stand up to scrutiny.


this has been discussed o many times and we have made a conclusion that craig is not satoshi but faketoshi. By discussing him again and again we are doing what he exactly want i.e. giving him popularity. so I suggest all members not to discuss this faketoshi.

"I knew Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi Nakamoto was a friend of mine. And you Sir are no Satoshi Nakamoto."

https://p2pfoundation.ning.com/friends/SatoshiNakamoto



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