Craig W. only claims to be Satoshi, because he knows the real Satoshi is dead? - page 9.

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Quote from: Searing on July 07, 2019, 09:37:07 PM

I wonder what are the consequences of the trial by Dave Klieman's brother for 1/3 of a Billion Dollars.

Unsure that if he loses, he will not go to a country without extradition and suffer nothing for his lies.

Also, if he was in a Satoshi Group with Dave Kleinman and Hal Finney and himself, and as a result is the last man standing,

he likely would know that the inventor(s) of Bitcoin are indeed dead, in that both the other 2 men have passed away.

I suspect he will lose the case, continue to state he has no access to the coins till 2020 and beyond, and go to a country

where he can't be extradited on a 'civil manner' like this. Thus, he will declare 'Victory' and FML if Bitcoin SV won't go up another 33%

because from what I can tell from this whole farce is humans are idiots and will believe anybody almost.

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It is a civil case - not a criminal case - so no extradition will happen. There will only be a large monetary award.

In my opinion CSW is already so deep into the deception that a few more lies won't make it any worse for him.He has nothing more to loose.

Those that believe him will only continue to believe him if he keeps lying. If he admits the truth then he looses that following.

He has been caught out on so many lies already that IF the Australian or US Government decide to take action there is ample evidence already.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/revealed-the-ato-hit-suspected-bitcoin-creator-craig-steven-wrights-company-with-a-1-7-million-penalty-2015-12
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-australian-who-may-have-invented-bitcoin-claimed-to-have-landed-54m-in-taxpayer-funded-rebates-2015-12
https://www.grantcentral.com.au/big-numbers-involved-in-rd-tax-incentive/

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53827716
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53826866
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-bitcoin-sv-bsv-fake-team-member-and-plagiarized-white-paper-5149062

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I wonder what are the consequences of the trial by Dave Klieman's brother for 1/3 of a Billion Dollars.

Unsure that if he loses, he will not go to a country without extradition and suffer nothing for his lies.

Also, if he was in a Satoshi Group with Dave Kleinman and Hal Finney and himself, and as a result is the last man standing,

he likely would know that the inventor(s) of Bitcoin are indeed dead, in that both the other 2 men have passed away.

I suspect he will lose the case, continue to state he has no access to the coins till 2020 and beyond, and go to a country

where he can't be extradited on a 'civil manner' like this. Thus, he will declare 'Victory' and FML if Bitcoin SV won't go up another 33%

because from what I can tell from this whole farce is humans are idiots and will believe anybody almost.

Brad

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He can claim all he wants, but until he signs one of Satoshi's early Bitcoin addresses, nobody will believe him. Satoshi might be dead, but everyone has some family or friend that knows about their secrets. Satoshi could even have left a clue or something for people to find him, but it has not been found yet. Roll Eyes

I would have also silently disappeared into the shadows, if I was in his shoes, but I would have left some clues for people to find the coins in the future.. Why would you hoard over a million of coins, if you wanted people to use your technology as a alternative currency. Roll Eyes

The truth will come out eventually and then CW will have a lot to explain. Cheesy

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Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

You have a good point unless the real Satoshi has an agreement with Craig to poised as Satoshi so he can hide his identity, but until now Craig cannot prove he is the real one because he cannot transfer the funds the real Satoshi is holding or even log in to his old account here, if the real Satoshi is dead no one can come out claiming to be the real Satoshi anymore.

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Honestly most of user bitcoins have a confident that Craig W is fake Satoshi. I'm just thinking if most user of bitcoins believe that he is the real Satoshi then the real Satoshi will come with a proof that can't be imagine by all user but most users will believe him. The real Satoshi is still there, but he doesn't intend to make himself be popular IMO.

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Just a thought, CW can be the false flag of the crypto world, if anything CW and SN may know each other and they might even be working together.. Keyser Soze anyone?

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it is simply a safe and calculated bet that Craig Scammer Wright made.
it as been many years since Satoshi went away. all this time we have not heard a work from him, there is no other signs from him either like moving a single satoshi from the coins he had mined in early years. so logically it s a safe bet to say he won't come back. and we are talking about a scammer here. he has the audacity to lie on such a big scale, he doesn't care even if Satoshi came out!
considering the rewards of this lie, i'd say it was a good bet for him so far.

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Craig w. & team socail bully to mr. hodlnaut in twitter on early 2019. The real satoshi naver do like that.

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Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

1. alot of people call craig wright SOSHITA and make fun from him, and he mentally unhealthy,,,so how even people think that he part of the team of satoshi , its just uneducated people very simple.

2. its people behind the bitcoin operation and not one person, the name is just as it is.

3. its not the first time or the last time people do great projects on the web and spread it under one name...wiki leaks work like this and other.

so simple

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No one knows if Satoshi Nakamoto is dead or not. All I think is that CSW is just claiming something that is impossible to happen. SN just want to maintain it's privacy , dead or not no one can actually prove that. What proof can Craig wants to present? It should be strong evidence then to make us believe that he is the real Satoshi.

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I don't think the real satoshi nakamoto is not just dead, but they still maintain their privacy so that they are not known by people, Craig W only wants to try to create a sensation and can also provoke the original Satoshi Nakamoto to come out showing who Satoshi Nakamoto is.

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I don't think that this is a possible scenario. One of the reasons for believing so is that there are others who are aware of the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, such as Michael Marquardt (username Theymos). In case Craig Wright claims that he is Satoshi and if the real Satoshi is dead, then what prevents Marquardt from coming up with the proof? I am sure that he is not doing that only because the real Satoshi is alive and he don't want to reveal his identity.

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Quote from: jonatuzc on August 23, 2017, 04:34:48 PM

The way people fight over this matter, man, I wonder if the world will go into explosion if they don’t come up with the person behind that name: Satoshi Nakamoto. Now someone has decided to claim he’s the real SN, and people are still doubting. Infact the real thing is this: nobody is Satoshi Nakamoto, it’s just a code name (as in a username).

Right, actually a lot has been coming out claiming they are Satoshi Nakamoto but people is doubting them all that is why the debate of who Satoshi Nakamoto is always on the run, I think this will be a never ending debate. It could be that's like a group of people collaboration and all wanted to take credits that is why they are coming out but who knows, for me it doesn't really matter because bitcoin survived without Satoshi coming out into the light.

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https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/kleiman-v-wright/?order_by=desc&page=1
esp. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/1/11/kleiman-v-wright/

If things turn out the way I think it does, Dave was Satoshi and he took his private keys into his grave. 1 million Bitcoins burned Grin

Possible that Craig has something to do with Dave's demise?

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it is also possible that someone got Satoshi when he was working on the development of bitcoin on 2009-2010, or maybe he got bored or something and left the project. or maybe bitcoin is completed and he was just working on an advanced network. Craig W. cannot prove that he is real Satoshi.

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Quote from: BillyBobZorton on August 24, 2017, 06:34:31 AM

Quote from: AGD on August 24, 2017, 01:11:41 AM

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Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 07:37:56 AM

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Sidenote: you saw CW at the presentation the other day, where he was talking utter nonsense? This guy is definitely not Satoshi.

Of course he is not Satoshi. My point is he was close to Satoshi which might have given him some of the information which only Satoshi would have known. And he also knows that real Satoshi is no more and he is trying to use it to his advantage.

Quote from: cryptonia on August 23, 2017, 07:56:43 AM

If Craig Wright had the private key to the first block the it's very clear he is Satoshi. What more proof do you need?
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No, someone who is/was very close to Satoshi may successfully obtain a key or two that belonged to real Satoshi. We need more proof, not just one key.

I got your point (presentation topic was just a little side talk. Watch it. Funny stuff) and I also think, that this theory fits well, but I don't think, that CW has recieved any key from SN. Which still makes me wonder how CW convinced Gavin, who certainly knew, that he would play with his reputation. Reason enough for a smart guy, to securely veryfy CW's claims, before going public with a statement like "I believe CW is Satoshi Nakamoto". And the truth is: Gavin messed up pretty bad. The reason for that must have been worth losing his reputation. I think, that both, Gavin and Craig are lying.

The theory of Gavin Andresen being part of the psyOPs operation to pass Craig Steven Wright as Satoshi Nakamoto in order to brainwash the masses into supporting their forks is very valid. Gavin Andresen started doing a 180 on his views after the CIA visit and Satoshi disappeared after his CIA visit... connect the dots.

Gavin and Craig are partners in bitcoin-crime.

Valid more than ever...

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Info:

Craig Wright faked an email to get out of billion-dollar lawsuit, expert claims in court

https://decryptmedia.com/6827/craig-wright-faked-email-billion-dollar-lawsuit-court-expert-claims

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However, cyber security engineer Dr. Matthew Edman provided written testimony to the court on Monday that Wright’s email evidence is bogus. The email’s digital signature, says Edman, demonstrates that it was produced in early 2014—not 2012 as Wright claims.

The problem? Kleiman died in 2013.

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Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

No, he knows that Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever they are, would not risk communicating with the world ever again. (its kinda obvious why)

To me it's not obvious. Please explain.

Well according to some blockchain analysts, Satoshi is sitting on billions of US dollars worth of Bitcoin.
If I was them, I wouldn't risk any possibility of being traced. This includes making a post on the internet or really doing anything online that involves that username.

Those coins were worth like 30 cents each when he decided to abandon the Satoshi alias. So your theory makes zero sense.

Whatsoever but really Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, so what’s the big deal here. Even if we say, he has bitcoins worth zillion dollars, what difference is that going to make anyways. Look guys, wherever is Satoshi and whoever is he, it hardly impacts me and my earnings. For my sake, he can be in heaven or hell like I care. This topic is just a drag and this mystery is getting on my nerves now.

Of course it would make a difference. People are like sheep and they need their shepard, and they would look at Craig Wright if he was Satoshi as the definite leader of BTC, which would mean they would use Craig Wright to influence people into buying the big blocks bullshit and centralize the network inside buildings owned by corporations.

Craig Wright is a goddamn conman that PsOPS are trying to pass Satoshi to influence the masses into their agenda's benefit.

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Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

Since you are think that Craig Wright knows who the real person was behind Satoshi then he might very well know more than anyone else in the world,so that does give a validity right that he really knew Satoshi, Tongue

what if he is the real Satoshi and he is not willing to produce further proof because of the amount of money he has to owe as tax,why should he risk doing that and play the bluff game,it is also possible right. Grin

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Quote from: Newmine on August 24, 2017, 12:40:25 AM

Quote from: e1ght on August 23, 2017, 03:59:00 AM

Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:43:35 AM

Quote from: e1ght on August 23, 2017, 03:41:14 AM

Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

No, he knows that Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever they are, would not risk communicating with the world ever again. (its kinda obvious why)

To me it's not obvious. Please explain.

Well according to some blockchain analysts, Satoshi is sitting on billions of US dollars worth of Bitcoin.
If I was them, I wouldn't risk any possibility of being traced. This includes making a post on the internet or really doing anything online that involves that username.

Those coins were worth like 30 cents each when he decided to abandon the Satoshi alias. So your theory makes zero sense.

Whatsoever but really Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, so what’s the big deal here. Even if we say, he has bitcoins worth zillion dollars, what difference is that going to make anyways. Look guys, wherever is Satoshi and whoever is he, it hardly impacts me and my earnings. For my sake, he can be in heaven or hell like I care. This topic is just a drag and this mystery is getting on my nerves now.

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