Topic: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say - page 28. (Read 31242 times)

And you call yourself true Christian?  Which part of "Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death" you don't understand?

You are not really a Bronze Age Christian then.  smashing babies, killing gays and owning people is ok, but working on Sabbath is ok?
I'm guessing you are getting paid double for working on the weekend?

Christians who don't believe everything in Bible is true word of God are probably more educated and do understand what they read, i.e. the Bible was written by bronze age cave dwellers that did not know any science and used the moral code of that era.

However, the danger is when someone thinks that this book was in fact written by God.  Then they go off tangent and take these verses literally and kill people.

You probably did not read this whole thread.  But we have members on this forum who think it is ok to kill babies (against the rock), kill gays or own people.  And  provide reasons why it is ok to do so.  Read page 6 of this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13928898

I started this thread to expose the nonsense, vile shit this book spouts out.

Most Christians I know fall into two categories: Modern Christians and Bronze Age Christians.

Modern Christians try to reconcile the nonsense with what we know about the world today, make bunch of skip-overs, ignore this or that, but essentially believe in different nonsense: that some guy walked on water, was born to a virgin, is son of god and God himself, raised from dead as human, sent himself to get crucified for forgive the sins of human kind (instead of forgiving them) and most craziest of all, they think cracker turns literally into flesh of Christ, and wine literally turns into blood of Christ during mass every Sunday.

If you are a Modern Christian, and you not believe in science (evolution, big bang) you are a 'Bronze Age Christian'.

If you are a Modern Christian, and you believe in science (evolution, big bang) and believe in the other stuff (like cracker and wine changing into flesh and blood), you are educated, smart, 'Insane Christian'.

If you are a modern Christian, and you believe in science (evolution, big bang) and you do not believe in the other stuff (like cracker and wine changing into flesh and blood), you are educated, smart person, and you are not really Christian.  More like 'Cultural Christian'.

So I think we can classify Christians into one of the three categories:

• Bronze Age Christians - Bible is word of God, evolution did not happen, big bang is not true, "kill them all, let God sort them out" types
• Insane Modern Christians - Bible is not entirely word of God, New Testament is true, Jesus is God, crackers turn into flesh, heaven is real, hell is real etc
• Cultural Modern Christians - Bible, New Testament is not entirely word of God, don't believe in crazy shit Bible says, but believe in God and Jesus deities in general, don't believe crackers turn into human flesh right before their eyes during mass etc. These types place a Pascal bet, just in case all this shit is true.

I think most fall into the last two categories.  I worry about the first group.  Those people need to be hospitalized.

When the bible talks about separating the waters of the heavens from the waters of the Earth:


This is because, bronze age goat-herders, didn't realize that the blue sky was not the same substance as the blue oceans... they thought the sky was water! (God thought the sky was water)


Note: When ancient people used the word, heaven... they interpreted the word differently than people of today... back then, heaven simply meant "the sky" (clouds are literally in heaven)

I never met any people like this neither!
It's the first time I met people saying Earth is 7k years old, global warming is an invention and that the Earth is flat...

AND: They're all Americans ^^

Coincidence? I think not... 

Haha. Why go elsewhere. You dont really have to go that far about shit and any other crazy shit out there. People talk shit about people. People talk shit about somebody else. Eveyone there is, everyone..

It's just a matter of seeing them in a different perspective. All stories i have to say have some context in them and that's what truly matters.

To be honest in my life I've never heard about such people in my surroundings who thought it's OK to smash a baby's head with a rock for religious reasons. I've also never heard about people doing or promoting such ideas and getting away with that without some lengthy jail terms or forced mental treatment. But perhaps the christians I know aren't faithful good head smashing christians . I must admit they also believe in the geocentric astronomical model and a spherical Earth what is more than 4 billion years old. Heretics for sure .

As I see mate you are trying to generalize from a few lunatics and some out of context 3k years old stuff to more than 1bn present day people .

Oh there is nothing crazy if we all admit that Bible is nothing near absolute and has to be adapted to the age in which we are

But tell that to the people thinking it's OK to smash a baby head with a rock or that the earth is only 7 000 years old

In fact it says it's square . Actually in many languages you can find expressions like "people from all corners of the world", we are actively using such statements, but nobody think that the Earth would be flat. BTW when the Bible was written everybody thought that Earth is flat, the spherical model turned up as a hypothesis from Pythagoras but Aristotle was the first who proved that three hundred years later. Well, and then what? This isn't real crazy shit just common cosmology of the age, and it still common in today's everyday phrasing but with modified meaning.

Hey, wouldn't like to insult anyone but the shitty religious zealots still never answered to the fact that Bible says Earth is flat:
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)

Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)

Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)

Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)

Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)

This can be interprated two ways :

-Litteraly :

You have to kill him. However, there's two problems at this : you shall not kill, and you shall forgive.


-Metaphoricaly :

Everyone who works on Sabbath won't go to the Paradise. And thus will die for the eternity. That's how I interpret it after a quick reading.

Also, don't remember that most of the sins can be "washed". If someone prays to the Lord this day, I don't think that working from times to times on Sabbath is that awful.

In the Bible's phrasing "waters" means a lot of things from seas to the sky (space), just like earth what in this context means material what was "formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep". Don't forget that this book was written some 3k years ago (and probably was based on some older scripts) for a bunch of goat herders and farmers with limited knowledge about quantum/astrophysics so the language had to be relative simple, plain hebrew .

He is an example of human sacrifice in Judges 11:29-40. Unbelievable!!!!

The Spirit of the Lord inspired Jephthah to sacrifice to God whatever came out to greet him when he returned from slaughtering the Ammonites. When his daughter came out to greet him, Jephthah kept his promise to God by killing her as a burnt offering.

 
So the God knew his daughter would come out to meet him, but he accepted Jephthah vow to sacrifice her anyway.  Bloodthirsty little prick.

LOL, he looks like a voodoo doll himself.  He is going on the wall (OP).

Who advises a woman to quit her job over a keychain? Pat Robertson... that's who

Pat Robertson: Quit Your Job Over Voodoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X65odgRN6FM

You can spin it however you wish, but the truth is true, and you know it is...

You can blame religious extremists all you like, but there would not be religious extremists without religion

Christians are no better... the witch burnings were not long ago... Christians also advocated for slavery, and currently advocate for homophobia, and intolerance of Muslims

I am not here to argue in your petty political battles, but that is a terrorist group, proclaiming they have the true view of Islam, as their guise.

It's very much political and a scare factor, the religious section to attract more followers.

While I understand your point, I fully reject it...

Religion is a disease, it is a mental illness that needs to be cured

Religion makes people do crazy things because they are not thinking clearly...

9/11!

Only a religious person flies a plane into a building, killing hundreds of people, while thinking they are doing God's work!!!

Alright.

I was born into a heavy christian catholic family.
I love my family very much.

But I consider myself agnostic.

There are pluses to both Atheism, and being religious.

A plus to Atheism allows you to not fall prey to wasting your time with rituals, so you can do more things in the day, and focus on the betterment of you and those around you.
A plus to Religion is that it allows people, educated and not, to have a system of beliefs, that allows them a pushing factor through tough life, and allows them to accomplish things.

It is perfectly okay to be religious, or have a system of beliefs that get you through the day.
It's also alright to not believe. To take science, facts and physics into account for the happenings of the day.


HOWEVER.

This thread is the exact reason why people hate atheists, and religious people alike.

We have atheists here, trying to say all religion is bad, and that the bible is a evil book, and flipping the bird to all religious, because they think science is superior, and they think that allows them to be the cocky douchebags that they are.

We also have people here, saying that atheists are completely wrong, that creationism is the wholly true way, that evolution does not exist, that they are far superior, and that allows them to talk here like they know everything, even though we have fucking solid proof of evolution and the Big Bang.

SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Besides the fact that being in a conversation with any of you lot drops your IQ by 80, and gives me a headache, who gives a flying shit?

Let people live their lives, let people own and be proud of their culture.

Is it okay when people use their culture to hold it over others, and commit crimes against humanities because they believe they are right?
No the fuck it isn't.

If we didn't have this stupid fuck AF_Newbie, , and moloch, spamming the forum with these repetitive anti-christian threads, saying they are superior, it's no better than the people like the Westboro Baptist Church, who take their interpretations, and their beliefs, and hold them over others, like they are gods, no pun intended.

Learn how to co-exist, god damn.

We need to convince Jeff Foxworthy to create a video clip...it would get a lot of hits on youtube.