What's interesting is the zealots here who are rabidly insisting on telling me what I believe.
They don't believe in the Bible, but they claim to be able to interpret it better than thousands of scholars.
And they hate anyone who disagrees with their biased agenda-driven interpretations.
It's sad when people are indoctrinated with such dogma that causes them to hate and attack people, even while they're speaking in ignorance and telling other people what to believe.
I think a lot of people are driven away from atheism because of all the atheists who try to control people by forcing their beliefs on others and attacking and silencing all different opinions through intimidation and mockery.
I guess it's based in xenophobia and the hatred of diversity and anyone being different from themselves. Basically like racism.
Topic: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say - page 30. (Read 31231 times)
What I have problem is with people who try to tell me black is white.
But you don't mind telling everyone else that black is white.
Just like this guy saying "It says flat" and then posting quotes that don't say anything like that.
You can keep telling yourself that black is white, but don't expect me to agree.
Fuck, you are not getting it.
Take the first verse as an example.
Tell me when is it ok to smash babies against the rocks?
You are ignorant of the Bible, so I'll go easy on you, but
When is it ok to kill gays?
When is it ok to own other human being?
When is it ok to kill someone because they worked on Sabbath?
I really would like to know, how can you rationalize the above?
Forget the crazy shit on page one, the creation story. I hope you don't believe world was created in 6 days. I'm assuming all Christians rationalize that one as a metaphor.
Dude this one doesn't give a shit about reasoning! He just claims that a round earth can have 4 corners xD
I know, he thinks we are attacking his religion. And refuses to even read the verses in the OP.
Nobody is attacking anyone. We are just pointing out the crazy shit the Bible says. It is up to him to explain himself and his fucking God (a group of bronze age psychopaths).
I believe the Bible is a very fulfilling and interesting read. I remind you, it is express as the Word of God, but never implied that God wrote it. What it is is a collection of stories passed on from generation to generation, then organized and published. That a Priest or Minister tells you it is the word of god, but actually reading it, you will see there are explanations of stories all over.
In any case I am not hating or defending. I do not believe in God, but do understand why people believe in God.
An olde Literary teacher once told me. The more you learn and read of religion, the less you understand.
Also, tons of stories are ripped from ancient cultures and redressed. Egyptian, Mesopotamians, Sumerians all had similar stories but 1000, 2000 and 5000 years before.
The bible does say some crazy shit, but so do all texts. I am from Mexico, our ancestors believed in human sacrifice, but were ahead of their time in math. So we killed and offered hearts to the sun god, but still discovered the correct use of the number 0.
In any case I am not hating or defending. I do not believe in God, but do understand why people believe in God.
An olde Literary teacher once told me. The more you learn and read of religion, the less you understand.
Also, tons of stories are ripped from ancient cultures and redressed. Egyptian, Mesopotamians, Sumerians all had similar stories but 1000, 2000 and 5000 years before.
The bible does say some crazy shit, but so do all texts. I am from Mexico, our ancestors believed in human sacrifice, but were ahead of their time in math. So we killed and offered hearts to the sun god, but still discovered the correct use of the number 0.
There's a lot of crazy shit in every -isms. Let's see some crazy shit from your pet ideologists: http://www.orgonelab.org/MarxEngelsQuotes.htm#QUOTES.
Well, you can find everything from praising slavery, encouraging terrorism and mass murder, anti-semitism, oppressing small (slavic) nations, warmongering, to irredentism...
Well, you can find everything from praising slavery, encouraging terrorism and mass murder, anti-semitism, oppressing small (slavic) nations, warmongering, to irredentism...
What I have problem is with people who try to tell me black is white.
But you don't mind telling everyone else that black is white.
Just like this guy saying "It says flat" and then posting quotes that don't say anything like that.
You can keep telling yourself that black is white, but don't expect me to agree.
Fuck, you are not getting it.
Take the first verse as an example.
Tell me when is it ok to smash babies against the rocks?
You are ignorant of the Bible, so I'll go easy on you, but
When is it ok to kill gays?
When is it ok to own other human being?
When is it ok to kill someone because they worked on Sabbath?
I really would like to know, how can you rationalize the above?
Forget the crazy shit on page one, the creation story. I hope you don't believe world was created in 6 days. I'm assuming all Christians rationalize that one as a metaphor.
Dude this one doesn't give a shit about reasoning! He just claims that a round earth can have 4 corners xD
What I have problem is with people who try to tell me black is white.
But you don't mind telling everyone else that black is white.
Just like this guy saying "It says flat" and then posting quotes that don't say anything like that.
You can keep telling yourself that black is white, but don't expect me to agree.
Fuck, you are not getting it.
Take the Psalm 137:9 verse as an example.
Tell me when is it ok to smash babies against the rocks?
You are ignorant of the Bible, so I'll go easy on you, but
When is it ok to kill gays?
When is it ok to own other human being?
When is it ok to kill someone because they worked on Sabbath?
I really would like to know, how can you rationalize the above?
Forget the crazy shit on page one, the creation story. I hope you don't believe world was created in 6 days. I'm assuming all Christians rationalize that one as a metaphor.
Wtf? A quote saying you can reach the end of earth and that earth has 4 corners is not a proof of it being flat?
No, it's not proof of the earth being flat.
The earth is round, as it says in the Bible.
I'm surprised that you think there is proof of the earth being flat.
The earth is not infinite, and therefore has ends. I'm sorry if you think the earth is infinite, but it's not.
WTF?
?And what is the end of a ROUND earth? And where are the FOUR CORNERS OF A ROUND EARTH?? xD
Seems like we don't have the same definition of round man!
Wtf? A quote saying you can reach the end of earth and that earth has 4 corners is not a proof of it being flat?
No, it's not proof of the earth being flat.
The earth is round, as it says in the Bible.
I'm surprised that you think there is proof of the earth being flat.
The earth is not infinite, and therefore has ends. I'm sorry if you think the earth is infinite, but it's not.
What I have problem is with people who try to tell me black is white.
But you don't mind telling everyone else that black is white.
Just like this guy saying "It says flat" and then posting quotes that don't say anything like that.
You can keep telling yourself that black is white, but don't expect me to agree.
Wtf? A quote saying you can reach the end of earth and that earth has 4 corners is not a proof of it being flat?
Give me a shape with an end four squares and which is not flat!
What I have problem is with people who try to tell me black is white.
But you don't mind telling everyone else that black is white.
Just like this guy saying "It says flat" and then posting quotes that don't say anything like that.
You can keep telling yourself that black is white, but don't expect me to agree.
What I have problem is with people who try to tell me black is white. Believe it or die.
Especially because most of them never read it ^^
You just want to let everyone know that you don't believe in God, and you're pretending to have some logical reasons to back up your beliefs. But if someone dismantles any or all of your arguments, you'll just change the subject to something else, because your arguments don't even matter to you. So why should anyone else take them seriously?
What's illogical to don't believe in a book containing things as dumb as "the Earth is flat" or "You shouldn't eat rabbit" or "The world is 7 000 years old"?
It does say that Israelites shouldn't eat rabbit.
But it doesn't say the earth is flat or 7000 years old.
If you were logical, you wouldn't need lies as your only examples of why you don't like the Bible.
Think about that - the first things you come up with aren't even true.
So it is your own writing, and not the Bible, which is proven false.
I'm not lying, it says the Earth is flat with 4 corners, squared in fact:
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)
Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)
Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)
Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)
Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)
You just want to let everyone know that you don't believe in God, and you're pretending to have some logical reasons to back up your beliefs. But if someone dismantles any or all of your arguments, you'll just change the subject to something else, because your arguments don't even matter to you. So why should anyone else take them seriously?
What's illogical to don't believe in a book containing things as dumb as "the Earth is flat" or "You shouldn't eat rabbit" or "The world is 7 000 years old"?
It does say that Israelites shouldn't eat rabbit.
But it doesn't say the earth is flat or 7000 years old.
If you were logical, you wouldn't need lies as your only examples of why you don't like the Bible.
Think about that - the first things you come up with aren't even true.
So it is your own writing, and not the Bible, which is proven false.
I don't have issue with the Bible. It is collection of crazy stories, no question there. It is obvious to anyone who can read.
What I have problem is with people who try to tell me black is white. Believe it or die.
That is what is offensive. You don't want to discuss individual verses because deep down you know that you cannot reconcile Bible verses with 21st century.
Your statements should be offensive to anyone with half a brain, including you.
You just want to let everyone know that you don't believe in God, and you're pretending to have some logical reasons to back up your beliefs. But if someone dismantles any or all of your arguments, you'll just change the subject to something else, because your arguments don't even matter to you. So why should anyone else take them seriously?
What's illogical to don't believe in a book containing things as dumb as "the Earth is flat" or "You shouldn't eat rabbit" or "The world is 7 000 years old"?
It does say that Israelites shouldn't eat rabbit.
But it doesn't say the earth is flat or 7000 years old.
If you were logical, you wouldn't need lies as your only examples of why you don't like the Bible.
Think about that - the first things you come up with aren't even true.
So it is your own writing, and not the Bible, which is proven false.
You just want to let everyone know that you don't believe in God, and you're pretending to have some logical reasons to back up your beliefs. But if someone dismantles any or all of your arguments, you'll just change the subject to something else, because your arguments don't even matter to you. So why should anyone else take them seriously?
What's illogical to don't believe in a book containing things as dumb as "the Earth is flat" or "You shouldn't eat rabbit" or "The world is 7 000 years old"?
Those aren't quotes, just some vague and inaccurate descriptions of a few verses.
And you copied and pasted them from Google anyway.
So go ahead and Google for answers if you're interested.
And you copied and pasted them from Google anyway.
So go ahead and Google for answers if you're interested.
Well there is the number of the verse so it's the same than giving the verse in itself you know...
The fact is that plenty of intelligent people have studied the Bible and found no flaws or contradictions. You are free to disagree, but you are also free to read thousands of commentaries online - if you were actually interested in answers.
Well dude I'd like to have the name of even ONE person matching this description xD
Those aren't quotes, just some vague and inaccurate descriptions of a few verses.
And you copied and pasted them from Google anyway.
So go ahead and Google for answers if you're interested.
And you copied and pasted them from Google anyway.
So go ahead and Google for answers if you're interested.
That is what I thought. Ignorance is a bliss.
Those aren't quotes, just some vague and inaccurate descriptions of a few verses.
And you copied and pasted them from Google anyway.
So go ahead and Google for answers if you're interested.
And you copied and pasted them from Google anyway.
So go ahead and Google for answers if you're interested.
What a stupid statement!
What would happen if this would NOT be mentioned in the bible?
People like you would run around scared like chicken.
Revelation 22:13.
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
For ever, and ever.
There is nothing god isnt aware of, does not see, does not know.
Even your deepest emotions, and thats why jesus helps us. point.
What would happen if this would NOT be mentioned in the bible?
People like you would run around scared like chicken.
Revelation 22:13.
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
For ever, and ever.
There is nothing god isnt aware of, does not see, does not know.
Even your deepest emotions, and thats why jesus helps us. point.
I see Christians come to this thread but none of them questions quotes in the OP.
They are just ignoring them. Maybe because they are afraid God will punish them because
they discuss his psychotic episodes.
C'mon Christians explain the quotes in the OP. Show us the wisdom of God. Explain what we the Atheists are missing from these quotes.
Let's go one by one. The floor is yours.
There are no quotes in the OP.
Your only point is that you don't believe in God.
Even if someone answers all your questions and proves that none of your criticisms of the Bible are valid, you still won't change your position.
Therefore, you're not here for an honest debate.
You just want to let everyone know that you don't believe in God, and you're pretending to have some logical reasons to back up your beliefs. But if someone dismantles any or all of your arguments, you'll just change the subject to something else, because your arguments don't even matter to you. So why should anyone else take them seriously?
The fact is that plenty of intelligent people have studied the Bible and found no flaws or contradictions. You are free to disagree, but you are also free to read thousands of commentaries online - if you were actually interested in answers.
Since you are already ignoring thousands of available writings by thousands of accomplished scholars, there is no point in anyone wasting their time here just so you can ignore them too.
Especially since you didn't even bother to write your own criticisms, but just started this thread by pasting some Youtube links of other people doing all your thinking for you.
Since your only points came from Google and not your own mind, you can get your answers from Google too.
Bible:
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Kings 6:29 - cannibalism
Leviticus 25:44 - slavery
Deuteronomy 13:12-15 - genocide
Leviticus 10:6 - you will die if you rip your clothes
Leviticus 19:19 - breeding cattle is illegal
Leviticus 21 - some bat crazy rules for priests, do not fuck young boys should be somewhere there....
Leviticus 20:10 - killing of adulterers
Leviticus 20:9 - killing children who dishonor mother or father
Leviticus 24:16 - stoning people if they say God's name
Deuteronomy 28:53 - more cannibalism
Genesis 19:8 - prostituting your virgin daughters
Leviticus 19:19 - not mixing two kinds of material for clothing :-)
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 - more stoning for not being a virgin
Exodus 31:14-15 - killing of people who work on Sabbath
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 - cutting off hands
Deuteronomy 23:1 - you'll not go to heaven if your testicles are damaged
Leviticus 19:27 - no haircuts of any kind
Leviticus 19:28 - no tattoos, or else
Leviticus 11:7-8 - eating pork is forbidden
New Testament:
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Matthew 5:29 - plucking out eyes
Matthew 5:30 - cutting off hands
Matthew 10:34 - waging wars by a sword
Corinthians 14:34-35 - women should be quiet and obey
Mark 10:11-12 - only marry once otherwise check Leviticus 20:10 for remedy
Luke 19:26-2 - genocide
Romans 1:20-32 - killing sinners
Revelation 2:5 - more killing
Revelation 2:23 - killing children
Psalm 137:9 - killing babies
Feel free to use any version of the Bible you like.
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