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Quote from: jostorres on July 29, 2022, 05:14:07 PM

Cricket was game of gentlemen by gentlemen and for gentlemen now in hands of corrupt mafia by P-4 for their own sack and have no future because of their poor management because money is working for them in good way, and they have no one who give them challenge or bring them in accountability court is surely big setback for this game and its fans because we were feeling good and healthy environment, but now it's all going to dead they are having power to control and with this all they are giving good lolly pops to fans.

With this bad management they can face dilemma because this is never been ideal for anyone to stay like this, hopefully we will have some good or bad changes which will give us positive end of this all.

These big 4 are playing smartly they know there supremacy is only as long as there are small countries like Pakistan, west indies, Srilanka and south Africa under them. Its best in interest of big 4 that big countries like USA, Russia and China don't join the cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 28, 2022, 09:05:49 PM

Simply there is no accountability. ICC is one of the most incompetent sports bodies in the world. I had a small glimmer of hope when Shashank Manohar was the chairman, but then the pig-4 managed to replace him with one of their proxies. I have give up. ICC is never going to change and cricket will remain confined to a handful of countries. Cricket biggest advantage (money power) is its curse. There is so much money to be made from TV deals and sponsorship, that corrupt businessmen have now completely taken up the administration.

Cricket was game of gentlemen by gentlemen and for gentlemen now in hands of corrupt mafia by P-4 for their own sack and have no future because of their poor management because money is working for them in good way, and they have no one who give them challenge or bring them in accountability court is surely big setback for this game and its fans because we were feeling good and healthy environment, but now it's all going to dead they are having power to control and with this all they are giving good lolly pops to fans.

With this bad management they can face dilemma because this is never been ideal for anyone to stay like this, hopefully we will have some good or bad changes which will give us positive end of this all.

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Quote from: doomloop on July 28, 2022, 03:41:19 PM

Now these jokers have no entertainment for cricketing fans around subcontinent because they understand what is going around ICC but still they are not understanding these facts and throwing shits like these.

If we have some good professional peoples in ICC management then surely we have much better things around like IOC, Commonwealth and Asian Games and strong communities with bright minds and good quality native players from many countries which are missing and most chances they will never have good future in this game because of these crap peoples.

Even now we are losing ground in West Indies with most chances cricket will be reduced in less countries even having good future in T-10 and T-20 Leagues with these franchise leagues.

Simply there is no accountability. ICC is one of the most incompetent sports bodies in the world. I had a small glimmer of hope when Shashank Manohar was the chairman, but then the pig-4 managed to replace him with one of their proxies. I have give up. ICC is never going to change and cricket will remain confined to a handful of countries. Cricket biggest advantage (money power) is its curse. There is so much money to be made from TV deals and sponsorship, that corrupt businessmen have now completely taken up the administration.

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Quote from: doomloop on July 28, 2022, 03:41:19 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on July 28, 2022, 11:17:00 AM

Some more crap from the ICC:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/icc-expects-cwg-commonwealth-games-2022-to-give-impetus-to-crickets-olympic-games-ambition-1326382
These guys think that the fans are complete idiots. The IOC made it clear that the ICC hasn't made any application to include cricket in the 2028 Olympics. And still these shameless people say that they are trying to get cricket included in the 2028 Games. Even for the Commonwealth Games, they managed to elbow the organizers to cancel the men's event, and to reduce the women's event to just 8 teams. I am glad that the Asian Games organizers told the ICC to GTFO and decided to continue with both men's and women's tournament for cricket.

Now these jokes have no entertainment for cricketing fans around subcontinent because they understand what is going around ICC but still they are not understanding these facts and throwing shits like these.
If we have some good professional peoples in ICC management then surely we have much better things around like IOC, Commonwealth and Asian Games and strong communities with bright minds and good quality native players from many countries which are missing and most chances they will never have good future in this game because of these crap peoples.
Even now we are losing ground in West Indies with most chances cricket will be reduced in less countries even having good future in T-10 and T-20 Leagues with these franchise leagues.

This is absolutely unbelievable. They are still trying to make us think that cricket will be included in the 2020 Olympics. But obviously, people are not stupid. ICC has never said anything like that and we all know that is not going to happen. In fact, they are trying to get rid of this debate. And if cricket is included in the Olympics it is not going to be very favorable for the big four teams. That is why they do not promote cricket as an Olympic game at all. There is something really stupid about the ICC not doing anything about including cricket in the Olympics.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 28, 2022, 11:17:00 AM

Some more crap from the ICC:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/icc-expects-cwg-commonwealth-games-2022-to-give-impetus-to-crickets-olympic-games-ambition-1326382

These guys think that the fans are complete idiots. The IOC made it clear that the ICC hasn't made any application to include cricket in the 2028 Olympics. And still these shameless people say that they are trying to get cricket included in the 2028 Games. Even for the Commonwealth Games, they managed to elbow the organizers to cancel the men's event, and to reduce the women's event to just 8 teams. I am glad that the Asian Games organizers told the ICC to GTFO and decided to continue with both men's and women's tournament for cricket.

Now these jokes have no entertainment for cricketing fans around subcontinent because they understand what is going around ICC but still they are not understanding these facts and throwing shits like these.

If we have some good professional peoples in ICC management then surely we have much better things around like IOC, Commonwealth and Asian Games and strong communities with bright minds and good quality native players from many countries which are missing and most chances they will never have good future in this game because of these crap peoples.

Even now we are losing ground in West Indies with most chances cricket will be reduced in less countries even having good future in T-10 and T-20 Leagues with these franchise leagues.

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Some more crap from the ICC:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/icc-expects-cwg-commonwealth-games-2022-to-give-impetus-to-crickets-olympic-games-ambition-1326382

These guys think that the fans are complete idiots. The IOC made it clear that the ICC hasn't made any application to include cricket in the 2028 Olympics. And still these shameless people say that they are trying to get cricket included in the 2028 Games. Even for the Commonwealth Games, they managed to elbow the organizers to cancel the men's event, and to reduce the women's event to just 8 teams. I am glad that the Asian Games organizers told the ICC to GTFO and decided to continue with both men's and women's tournament for cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 26, 2022, 09:15:14 PM

Quote from: Marvell1 on July 26, 2022, 04:42:16 PM

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If he is that busy with his personal life, then he should take some time off and stay with his family, right? If he thinks that playing domestic cricket will result in a downgrade, then I can't help. Legendary players such as Sachin Tendulkar and Steve Smith have played domestic cricket frequently despite their national commitments. Anyway, no one will force Virat to play domestic matches. If he don't want to play, then he don't need to. The decision by BCCI to allow family members to travel with the national team squad for overseas tours need to be revised. I guess that is causing a lot of issues and resulting in lack of focus.

I agree that he should take a break otherwise, I don’t think he will be able to play better any time soon. I really hate to comment on anyone's personal problems. Right now, personal issues are likely the only explanation for Virat Kohli's poor performance. He knew that when he married the Bollywood star, he was entering a life of glamour. But I don’t think he’s going to be able to handle that. Because his professional life is having a lot of negative effects.

Quote from: Juggy777 on July 27, 2022, 05:17:07 AM

@Sithara007 I’m waiting to see will Rohit and Dravid take the bold call of dropping Kohli, because if he’s choosing to avoid domestic cricket to get better then he should definitely be dropped. Furthermore dropping him temporarily could be the key to remind him why he needs to perform, and maybe then he’ll start performing again but if he yet fails then the selectors will have to consider about permanently dropping him.

At this point, there is no debate about this. Virat Kohli must be dropped for both the sake of him and the Indian team. Otherwise, nothing is going to be pleasant from this point on. I really hope that Virat Kohli also understands that. And at this point, I don’t think it’s about what Virat Kohli thinks. It should be about what is right for the Indian team.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 27, 2022, 10:16:46 PM

No one is denying his past contributions. But a time comes when the patience runs out. The same thing happened with Hardik Pandya, right? In case of Hardik, after he was dropped from the side, he focused really hard on his game and made a spectacular comeback. The problem with Kohli is that he is not even ready to admit that he is in trouble. Despite performing so poorly, he has refused to cut down on his activities other than cricket and focus on his game. And I can see that the selectors are at their at their wits end.

Here just no Hardik Pandya we have too many other examples where players dropped from team due to poor performance, and they fight back for their place and achieve targets with their focus and good performance but sadly right now in Kohli case I am feeling BCCI inner politics is also having big part and as he is not having good interest in his performance and not giving any positive signal it's giving indicator that peoples behind him still are strong enough to giving him good back up for staying into team without good performance.

Three years is enough for any player from here now surely he dropped from team and bringing some other talented youngster is also very important for selectors if they want to be positive for future.

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Quote from: Rigon on July 27, 2022, 12:40:27 PM

It was not right for Virat Kohli to do that. He never fixed the way he became housebound In fact, this is the first time I have seen a good player go down so easily.A field shaking player like him is very prestigious for a country.All the work he has done is not at all popular with people.But it is not right for his party to do so.It was his duty to keep Virat Kohli with his team and take the team forward.

No one is denying his past contributions. But a time comes when the patience runs out. The same thing happened with Hardik Pandya, right? In case of Hardik, after he was dropped from the side, he focused really hard on his game and made a spectacular comeback. The problem with Kohli is that he is not even ready to admit that he is in trouble. Despite performing so poorly, he has refused to cut down on his activities other than cricket and focus on his game. And I can see that the selectors are at their at their wits end.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 26, 2022, 09:15:14 PM

Quote from: Marvell1 on July 26, 2022, 04:42:16 PM

Virat Kohli must feel like he is downgrading himself if he plays for domestic seasons right now. I think the main reason why he is not willing to do that is because of his ego. He has not performed well for a long time and we know even before his marriage they had a lot of drama simmering on between themselves. And that has also had some impact on his professional career but obviously, that was not worth much notice. But right now Virat Kohli seems to be so busy with his personal life that he doesn't seem to be giving enough time to his professional career. And this is the result of that.

If he is that busy with his personal life, then he should take some time off and stay with his family, right? If he thinks that playing domestic cricket will result in a downgrade, then I can't help. Legendary players such as Sachin Tendulkar and Steve Smith have played domestic cricket frequently despite their national commitments. Anyway, no one will force Virat to play domestic matches. If he don't want to play, then he don't need to. The decision by BCCI to allow family members to travel with the national team squad for overseas tours need to be revised. I guess that is causing a lot of issues and resulting in lack of focus.

It was not right for Virat Kohli to do that. He never fixed the way he became housebound In fact, this is the first time I have seen a good player go down so easily.A field shaking player like him is very prestigious for a country.All the work he has done is not at all popular with people.But it is not right for his party to do so.It was his duty to keep Virat Kohli with his team and take the team forward.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on July 27, 2022, 05:17:07 AM

@Sithara007 I’m waiting to see will Rohit and Dravid take the bold call of dropping Kohli, because if he’s choosing to avoid domestic cricket to get better then he should definitely be dropped. Furthermore dropping him temporarily could be the key to remind him why he needs to perform, and maybe then he’ll start performing again but if he yet fails then the selectors will have to consider about permanently dropping him.

Rohit for sure is not going to do that. If it backfires, then he can say goodbye to his captaincy ambitions for ever. Already he is facing mid-life crisis and probably doesn't want to antagonize Kohli at this point. On top of that, I heard that both Rohit and Virat are good friends. The call may come from Dravid. He is mild-natured guy, but can get very strict and stubborn. On top of that, Dravid enjoys good relations with Ganguly as well. If he takes the decision to drop Kohli, then it will be implemented without any delay.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 26, 2022, 09:15:14 PM

Quote from: Marvell1 on July 26, 2022, 04:42:16 PM

Virat Kohli must feel like he is downgrading himself if he plays for domestic seasons right now. I think the main reason why he is not willing to do that is because of his ego. He has not performed well for a long time and we know even before his marriage they had a lot of drama simmering on between themselves. And that has also had some impact on his professional career but obviously, that was not worth much notice. But right now Virat Kohli seems to be so busy with his personal life that he doesn't seem to be giving enough time to his professional career. And this is the result of that.

If he is that busy with his personal life, then he should take some time off and stay with his family, right? If he thinks that playing domestic cricket will result in a downgrade, then I can't help. Legendary players such as Sachin Tendulkar and Steve Smith have played domestic cricket frequently despite their national commitments. Anyway, no one will force Virat to play domestic matches. If he don't want to play, then he don't need to. The decision by BCCI to allow family members to travel with the national team squad for overseas tours need to be revised. I guess that is causing a lot of issues and resulting in lack of focus.

@Sithara007 I’m waiting to see will Rohit and Dravid take the bold call of dropping Kohli, because if he’s choosing to avoid domestic cricket to get better then he should definitely be dropped. Furthermore dropping him temporarily could be the key to remind him why he needs to perform, and maybe then he’ll start performing again but if he yet fails then the selectors will have to consider about permanently dropping him.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 26, 2022, 09:15:14 PM

Quote from: Marvell1 on July 26, 2022, 04:42:16 PM

Virat Kohli must feel like he is downgrading himself if he plays for domestic seasons right now. I think the main reason why he is not willing to do that is because of his ego. He has not performed well for a long time and we know even before his marriage they had a lot of drama simmering on between themselves. And that has also had some impact on his professional career but obviously, that was not worth much notice. But right now Virat Kohli seems to be so busy with his personal life that he doesn't seem to be giving enough time to his professional career. And this is the result of that.

If he is that busy with his personal life, then he should take some time off and stay with his family, right?

But now we can say most of the Indians cricketers are greedy, so they never look in this way.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on July 26, 2022, 04:42:16 PM

Virat Kohli must feel like he is downgrading himself if he plays for domestic seasons right now. I think the main reason why he is not willing to do that is because of his ego. He has not performed well for a long time and we know even before his marriage they had a lot of drama simmering on between themselves. And that has also had some impact on his professional career but obviously, that was not worth much notice. But right now Virat Kohli seems to be so busy with his personal life that he doesn't seem to be giving enough time to his professional career. And this is the result of that.

If he is that busy with his personal life, then he should take some time off and stay with his family, right? If he thinks that playing domestic cricket will result in a downgrade, then I can't help. Legendary players such as Sachin Tendulkar and Steve Smith have played domestic cricket frequently despite their national commitments. Anyway, no one will force Virat to play domestic matches. If he don't want to play, then he don't need to. The decision by BCCI to allow family members to travel with the national team squad for overseas tours need to be revised. I guess that is causing a lot of issues and resulting in lack of focus.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on July 26, 2022, 04:42:16 PM

Virat Kohli must feel like he is downgrading himself if he plays for domestic seasons right now. I think the main reason why he is not willing to do that is because of his ego. He has not performed well for a long time and we know even before his marriage they had a lot of drama simmering on between themselves. And that has also had some impact on his professional career but obviously, that was not worth much notice. But right now Virat Kohli seems to be so busy with his personal life that he doesn't seem to be giving enough time to his professional career. And this is the result of that.

I never have things like this in last few decades what is in mind of Kohli and selectors of BCCI about his future because three years is surely enough for any person to give up or do some better, but he is hanging around and no one trying to give him any lesson in this all which is surely wired. If he wants to live good personal life then surely he needs to step down from team and enjoy this all which he already achieves but here no giving up and still no performing is absolutely joke even he is not interested in domestic games just because of his ego and stopping ways of many youths is also not good for him and these youths.

If selectors waiting for World Cup is Australia then surely they are going to lose this as well because they are going with players not in good touch and stopping ways of players those are in good touch.

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Quote from: wiss19 on July 26, 2022, 04:48:11 AM

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on July 25, 2022, 05:56:25 AM

Kohli is a cricketer and no body is giving bad remarks about his personal life. He married a Bollywood star and since then his performance is not good and main reason is he is focusing on things like acting and dancing. If kohli wanna come back to team then he surely need to perform well.

It is wrong to comment on his personal life. But the problem occurs when his personal life starts having an impact on his professional life. I don't know whether Bollywood influence has impacted his game for sure. But he needs to work on it now. Kohli has refused to admit that he is in trouble. Despite being out of form for 3 years, he hasn't taken any steps to regain form. I understand his hesitation in playing Indian domestic cricket. But why can't he play a few county games in England? At this point, players such as Cheteshwar Pujara, Washington Sundar and Umesh Yadav are playing for various counties.

This is strong point he has done nothing for improving his performance and still giving poor performance and with this suggestion he can take part in English Domestic season for having some practice and regaining his performance is not bad at all because this works for many players in past as well here BCCI is also can help him as they release him from International duty, and he joins any county where things could be in positive mode for his future and game.
With this all he is also never interested in Indian domestic season is also a big question mark why this hesitation because this is also good for his game and future but ignoring all positive ways is never been good for any player like him.

Virat Kohli must feel like he is downgrading himself if he plays for domestic seasons right now. I think the main reason why he is not willing to do that is because of his ego. He has not performed well for a long time and we know even before his marriage they had a lot of drama simmering on between themselves. And that has also had some impact on his professional career but obviously, that was not worth much notice. But right now Virat Kohli seems to be so busy with his personal life that he doesn't seem to be giving enough time to his professional career. And this is the result of that.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 25, 2022, 09:15:38 PM

Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on July 25, 2022, 05:56:25 AM

Kohli is a cricketer and no body is giving bad remarks about his personal life. He married a Bollywood star and since then his performance is not good and main reason is he is focusing on things like acting and dancing. If kohli wanna come back to team then he surely need to perform well.

It is wrong to comment on his personal life. But the problem occurs when his personal life starts having an impact on his professional life. I don't know whether Bollywood influence has impacted his game for sure. But he needs to work on it now. Kohli has refused to admit that he is in trouble. Despite being out of form for 3 years, he hasn't taken any steps to regain form. I understand his hesitation in playing Indian domestic cricket. But why can't he play a few county games in England? At this point, players such as Cheteshwar Pujara, Washington Sundar and Umesh Yadav are playing for various counties.

This is strong point he has done nothing for improving his performance and still giving poor performance and with this suggestion he can take part in English Domestic season for having some practice and regaining his performance is not bad at all because this works for many players in past as well here BCCI is also can help him as they release him from International duty, and he joins any county where things could be in positive mode for his future and game.

With this all he is also never interested in Indian domestic season is also a big question mark why this hesitation because this is also good for his game and future but ignoring all positive ways is never been good for any player like him.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on July 25, 2022, 05:56:25 AM

Kohli is a cricketer and no body is giving bad remarks about his personal life. He married a Bollywood star and since then his performance is not good and main reason is he is focusing on things like acting and dancing. If kohli wanna come back to team then he surely need to perform well.

It is wrong to comment on his personal life. But the problem occurs when his personal life starts having an impact on his professional life. I don't know whether Bollywood influence has impacted his game for sure. But he needs to work on it now. Kohli has refused to admit that he is in trouble. Despite being out of form for 3 years, he hasn't taken any steps to regain form. I understand his hesitation in playing Indian domestic cricket. But why can't he play a few county games in England? At this point, players such as Cheteshwar Pujara, Washington Sundar and Umesh Yadav are playing for various counties.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on July 25, 2022, 04:48:51 AM

We are living in the Third World, and we don't need any logic to talk about any person's life or wife because we have no manners we are talking about game so better we need to focused at this, but sadly we have few bad minds those want to do these tactics for having spicy part with sports. Which is surely never been allowed because now we need to change mindset and having some better values in life and game.

If Kohli is not performing after marriage surely he needs to do change strategy or something else with this all surely he can do better and having good future in this game but now blaming and trying to go beyond limits is surely not allowed at any forum for any person.

Kohli is a cricketer and no body is giving bad remarks about his personal life. He married a Bollywood star and since then his performance is not good and main reason is he is focusing on things like acting and dancing. If kohli wanna come back to team then he surely need to perform well.

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Quote from: BobK71 on July 24, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

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I don't understand what Kohli's performance has to do with marrying a Bollywood actress. Have we yet seen a player who played well his entire career, never having a bad performance? Or has he ever gone through a bad time? Kohli has been a very consistent player. Suddenly his performance deteriorated. I think this is because of Kohli's overconfidence. If he is more diligent then maybe he can return to form.

There is no logic to talk about Kohli and his wife. As it refers to his personal life. However, Kohli has not been able to get rhythm on the field for many days. I think he needs to break from the main squad for a few days. I think a little break may bring him back to his previous place. Just remember that performance in cricket is not always would be the same.

We are living in the Third World, and we don't need any logic to talk about any person's life or wife because we have no manners we are talking about game so better we need to focused at this, but sadly we have few bad minds those want to do these tactics for having spicy part with sports. Which is surely never been allowed because now we need to change mindset and having some better values in life and game.

If Kohli is not performing after marriage surely he needs to do change strategy or something else with this all surely he can do better and having good future in this game but now blaming and trying to go beyond limits is surely not allowed at any forum for any person.

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