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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 24, 2022, 09:51:49 PM

I am not much interested in the IPL. I have always preferred international cricket over franchise cricket. And IPL may have the star power, but at the same time, it is full of negative influences. There have been multiple instances of match fixing within the IPL. While players like Sreesanth and Shakib al Hassan were punished for their roles, the franchise owners were let off. As far as T20 cricket is concerned, I still prefer ICC tournaments such as the T20 World Cup and Asia Cup over IPL and other franchise leagues.

In franchise every play for himself just to make sure his stats are good so he gets handsome bid in the auction. There is limited concept of team in T20 league. There is so much money in IPL, the only way to recover that money is through fixing and other such means. There is no proof of this so no one can voice against it.
ICC T20 events are helpless in front of T20 leagues since ICC don't have that much money.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 24, 2022, 12:20:56 AM

Thanks for sharing this, never knew that boards are forced to include test matches in every tour. I think since there is lots of t20 going on in the form of T20 leagues and t20 WC ( which at times is happening every year or two years), ICC has issued such regulations on test.
But for your delight IPL is starting and you can enjoy entertaining cricket instead of boring test.

I am not much interested in the IPL. I have always preferred international cricket over franchise cricket. And IPL may have the star power, but at the same time, it is full of negative influences. There have been multiple instances of match fixing within the IPL. While players like Sreesanth and Shakib al Hassan were punished for their roles, the franchise owners were let off. As far as T20 cricket is concerned, I still prefer ICC tournaments such as the T20 World Cup and Asia Cup over IPL and other franchise leagues.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 22, 2022, 11:16:02 AM

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Actually having three test matches in every series might not be the best idea. If it is actually done, I mean three test matches in every series then I think cricket might lose a lot more popularity altogether.

I actually think test cricket is holding cricket back as a whole. Don't get me wrong. I love this cricket and I am sure that the players also enjoy playing test cricket.

But, yes it is not enjoyable for the fans. seems fans are the main source of revenue, it's better to give the other formats of cricket a lot more time than test cricket right now.

I think every board is independent in deciding how many test matches will be played in there home tour. For instance, in NZ there are always 2 test matches in every series. They don't like playing much test. If board is getting benefit only then they are playing more test cricket. I do agree that there cricket fans like T20 format only.

T20 is much liked and admired by the people. It is quick, happening and interesting at the same time. On the other hand. People do not have time to watch test cricket there is already so much distraction that people don't focus on one thing for longer period of time. That instead of watching the whole test match they watch highlight and check score.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on March 24, 2022, 12:30:40 PM

If this is a case of match-fixing or something even close to that, I think it was a really serious offense and the player got away with it quite easily.

the official news is still not out yet. I assume that it can be a cover-up job by the England cricket board to save the player from getting banned for a long time. I don't think something like this has happened ever before. if a player got punished we all knew why he was punished. but this is the first case in my opinion where it is kept a secret.

In my opinion it's not case of match-fixing or spot-fixing because if we have things like this then surely ECB is also doing crime and not putting all information on media and just giving a minor reminder which is double standard we have few cases in other countries and mostly players faced some bans and other punishments as well even it's all rumours because in my case it's nothing related to betting or gambling.

Most chances it's related to drugs or behaviour like this because we also have things like this regularly in these countries and from these players like few days back Sri Lankan players were also have same case now they are back in team after reminder about this all.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 23, 2022, 11:39:52 AM

Is there any chance that this all drama happening due to White powder aka Cocaine? As far as i know fair amount of English players, even domestic players are very fond of white powder and never shy away to use some here n there whenever there is a opportunity.

If it was related to match fixing or similar scandal to Shakib (not informing authorities on right time regarding bookies) then i don't think ECB would have shy away to highlight the charges.

Quote from: CryptoBuds on March 24, 2022, 12:30:40 PM

^ If this is a case of match-fixing or something even close to that, I think it was a really serious offense and the player got away with it quite easily.

the official news is still not out yet. I assume that it can be a cover-up job by the England cricket board to save the player from getting banned for a long time. I don't think something like this has happened ever before. if a player got punished we all knew why he was punished. but this is the first case in my opinion where it is kept a secret.

Yes, the problem is that the official statement is not out yet and until the official statement comes out all we can do is assume. I know that he has done some shady things in the past. and it will not be surprising for me if this is actually happening for cocaine usage.

But in my opinion, it is obviously something which the England cricket board does not want to review for everyone and that's why it has been kept a secret by almost everyone.

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Quote from: barbara44 on March 23, 2022, 01:22:24 PM

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English cricketer Jason Roy fined £2,500, given suspended by the ECB for uncovered misconduct. What's wrong did he commit actually? That has been uncovered up to this point. I've never seen that the players got punished yet the offense not uncovered. It's absolutely amateurish of any cricket association except if they're attempting to make a specific statement.

Jason Roy is surely one of the best player in short format, and he was very good in CWC in England where he destroys many bowlers with his skills, but sadly he has never been an ideal person with many controversies on and off field issues related with him in last many years.

Now, this new case is surely having something serious most chances it's not related to spot fixing or leaking information's to bookies if we have any case like this then surely ECB will give all updates about this to media so most chances it's related to some internal issue like drugs or his behavior just because of this ECB just announces some fine and nothing else. Recently we have things like these in Sri Lankan tour of England but SLCB give all details about this and then give punishment to their players but here just this statement is just wired.

^ If this is a case of match-fixing or something even close to that, I think it was a really serious offense and the player got away with it quite easily.

the official news is still not out yet. I assume that it can be a cover-up job by the England cricket board to save the player from getting banned for a long time. I don't think something like this has happened ever before. if a player got punished we all knew why he was punished. but this is the first case in my opinion where it is kept a secret.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 22, 2022, 09:50:36 PM

As per the ICC rules for the World Test Championship (WTC), each full member need to conduct at least one test series against each of the remaining 9 full members, and there should be a minimum of 2 test matches in each of these series. So the national boards are forced to include test matches in their itinerary, even if they have little interest in doing so. And this is one of the reasons why I always say that the WTC has made cricket more boring. Ideally national teams should only play one test series (2-3 matches) per year.

Thanks for sharing this, never knew that boards are forced to include test matches in every tour. I think since there is lots of t20 going on in the form of T20 leagues and t20 WC ( which at times is happening every year or two years), ICC has issued such regulations on test.
But for your delight IPL is starting and you can enjoy entertaining cricket instead of boring test.

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English cricketer Jason Roy fined £2,500, given suspended by the ECB for uncovered misconduct. What's wrong did he commit actually? That has been uncovered up to this point. I've never seen that the players got punished yet the offense not uncovered. It's absolutely amateurish of any cricket association except if they're attempting to make a specific statement.

Jason Roy is surely one of the best player in short format, and he was very good in CWC in England where he destroys many bowlers with his skills, but sadly he has never been an ideal person with many controversies on and off field issues related with him in last many years.

Now, this new case is surely having something serious most chances it's not related to spot fixing or leaking information's to bookies if we have any case like this then surely ECB will give all updates about this to media so most chances it's related to some internal issue like drugs or his behavior just because of this ECB just announces some fine and nothing else. Recently we have things like these in Sri Lankan tour of England but SLCB give all details about this and then give punishment to their players but here just this statement is just wired.

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English cricketer Jason Roy fined £2,500, given suspended by the ECB for uncovered misconduct. What's wrong did he commit actually? That has been uncovered up to this point. I've never seen that the players got punished yet the offense not uncovered. It's absolutely amateurish of any cricket association except if they're attempting to make a specific statement.

I believe that he could have leaked out sensitive information to interested parties (bookies) during match days, because that’s one of the reasons why such bans are usually issued. Furthermore unofficially it does looks like they find him guilty of some type of match fixing, but not at a big scale hence he’s been given lighter punishment, and until ECB discloses their official reason all we can do is speculate at this stage.

I think that the reason is not something really big otherwise he would have been fine a lot more money and might also face a ban for a long time. I am also not exactly sure why this has happened.
By the way, he also cannot play the next two international matches with England. It will be really interesting to see the official news about this.

Is there any chance that this all drama happening due to White powder aka Cocaine? As far as i know fair amount of English players, even domestic players are very fond of white powder and never shy away to use some here n there whenever there is a opportunity.

If it was related to match fixing or similar scandal to Shakib (not informing authorities on right time regarding bookies) then i don't think ECB would have shy away to highlight the charges.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 22, 2022, 09:50:36 PM

Quote from: blatchcorn on March 22, 2022, 11:16:02 AM

I think every board is independent in deciding how many test matches will be played in there home tour. For instance, in NZ there are always 2 test matches in every series. They don't like playing much test. If board is getting benefit only then they are playing more test cricket. I do agree that there cricket fans like T20 format only.

As per the ICC rules for the World Test Championship (WTC), each full member need to conduct at least one test series against each of the remaining 9 full members, and there should be a minimum of 2 test matches in each of these series. So the national boards are forced to include test matches in their itinerary, even if they have little interest in doing so. And this is one of the reasons why I always say that the WTC has made cricket more boring. Ideally national teams should only play one test series (2-3 matches) per year.

It is actually going to have a negative effect on this cricket. Because people want more action and they will get that in ODI and t20 cricket.

So, in this rule test cricket will be like the YouTube ads. I think we all understand how annoying YouTube ads can be, and when we watch a video on YouTube and a promotional advertisement pops up, we just want it to finish or skip it.

I think that the same thing is going to be happening to test cricket.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 23, 2022, 02:43:10 AM

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English cricketer Jason Roy fined £2,500, given suspended by the ECB for uncovered misconduct. What's wrong did he commit actually? That has been uncovered up to this point. I've never seen that the players got punished yet the offense not uncovered. It's absolutely amateurish of any cricket association except if they're attempting to make a specific statement.

I believe that he could have leaked out sensitive information to interested parties (bookies) during match days, because that’s one of the reasons why such bans are usually issued. Furthermore unofficially it does looks like they find him guilty of some type of match fixing, but not at a big scale hence he’s been given lighter punishment, and until ECB discloses their official reason all we can do is speculate at this stage.

I think that the reason is not something really big otherwise he would have been fine a lot more money and might also face a ban for a long time. I am also not exactly sure why this has happened.
By the way, he also cannot play the next two international matches with England. It will be really interesting to see the official news about this.

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English cricketer Jason Roy fined £2,500, given suspended by the ECB for uncovered misconduct. What's wrong did he commit actually? That has been uncovered up to this point. I've never seen that the players got punished yet the offense not uncovered. It's absolutely amateurish of any cricket association except if they're attempting to make a specific statement.

I believe that he could have leaked out sensitive information to interested parties (bookies) during match days, because that’s one of the reasons why such bans are usually issued. Furthermore unofficially it does looks like they find him guilty of some type of match fixing, but not at a big scale hence he’s been given lighter punishment, and until ECB discloses their official reason all we can do is speculate at this stage.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 22, 2022, 11:16:02 AM

I think every board is independent in deciding how many test matches will be played in there home tour. For instance, in NZ there are always 2 test matches in every series. They don't like playing much test. If board is getting benefit only then they are playing more test cricket. I do agree that there cricket fans like T20 format only.

As per the ICC rules for the World Test Championship (WTC), each full member need to conduct at least one test series against each of the remaining 9 full members, and there should be a minimum of 2 test matches in each of these series. So the national boards are forced to include test matches in their itinerary, even if they have little interest in doing so. And this is one of the reasons why I always say that the WTC has made cricket more boring. Ideally national teams should only play one test series (2-3 matches) per year.

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Quote from: Minecache on March 22, 2022, 03:22:48 PM

I don't see any reason why a team should play a lot more test cricket if it is not generating much revenue. I think, if that same time is given to any other formats of cricket then the popularity will be growing a lot more and they will be able to reach a lot more people through those formats instead of test cricket.

I got that test cricket is the birth of cricket, but with time everything changes. and so has the expectation of cricket fans.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 22, 2022, 11:16:02 AM

Quote from: Minecache on March 22, 2022, 10:59:27 AM

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I think every board is independent in deciding how many test matches will be played in there home tour. For instance, in NZ there are always 2 test matches in every series. They don't like playing much test. If board is getting benefit only then they are playing more test cricket. I do agree that there cricket fans like T20 format only.

I don't see any reason why a team should play a lot more test cricket if it is not generating much revenue. I think, if that same time is given to any other formats of cricket then the popularity will be growing a lot more and they will be able to reach a lot more people through those formats instead of test cricket.

I got that test cricket is the birth of cricket, but with time everything changes. and so has the expectation of cricket fans.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 22, 2022, 11:16:02 AM

I think every board is independent in deciding how many test matches will be played in there home tour. For instance, in NZ there are always 2 test matches in every series. They don't like playing much test. If board is getting benefit only then they are playing more test cricket. I do agree that there cricket fans like T20 format only.

Yeah every board is independent but still ICC is big stakeholder in this all process they need to talk with all boards and having some good experts as well as we can go in positive way because as ICC started WTC there were hopes this will bring some good fans base but nothing happen in positive way, and we still have the worst results from West Indies and Pakistan with this all most chances we can lose charm for test cricket so here they need to talk about more T20 and ODI and then have all franchise in their frame for better results hopefully this will bring some better and positive way for all.

Or, they need to check with this WTC have some strict policies about these dead pitches and give punishment which can bring some fair and good competition and better results in near future.

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Quote from: Minecache on March 22, 2022, 10:59:27 AM

Actually having three test matches in every series might not be the best idea. If it is actually done, I mean three test matches in every series then I think cricket might lose a lot more popularity altogether.

I actually think test cricket is holding cricket back as a whole. Don't get me wrong. I love this cricket and I am sure that the players also enjoy playing test cricket.

But, yes it is not enjoyable for the fans. seems fans are the main source of revenue, it's better to give the other formats of cricket a lot more time than test cricket right now.

I think every board is independent in deciding how many test matches will be played in there home tour. For instance, in NZ there are always 2 test matches in every series. They don't like playing much test. If board is getting benefit only then they are playing more test cricket. I do agree that there cricket fans like T20 format only.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 21, 2022, 09:05:36 PM

Quote from: romero121 on March 21, 2022, 05:52:28 PM

For now atleast every cricket series will have a test match. This keeps the test cricket alive, and once again time comes back for test cricket. In the fast moving World people need to run more fast and by the time such a long cricket match is something unwanted. In reality, everyone doesn't think in such a way, if they've tasted how good test cricket matches.

This need to change, right? What is the point in having 3 test matches (15 days) in every series, when far fewer days are allotted to T20 and ODI cricket? I am OK with one test match per series. The remainder of the time should be given to limited overs cricket, as it is far more popular now when compared to the longer format. If the ICC want to keep test format alive, then the solution is not to have more matches. The real solution is to make test cricket more interesting, by reducing the number of lop-sided matches.

Actually having three test matches in every series might not be the best idea. If it is actually done, I mean three test matches in every series then I think cricket might lose a lot more popularity altogether.

I actually think test cricket is holding cricket back as a whole. Don't get me wrong. I love this cricket and I am sure that the players also enjoy playing test cricket.

But, yes it is not enjoyable for the fans. seems fans are the main source of revenue, it's better to give the other formats of cricket a lot more time than test cricket right now.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 21, 2022, 09:05:36 PM

This need to change, right? What is the point in having 3 test matches (15 days) in every series, when far fewer days are allotted to T20 and ODI cricket? I am OK with one test match per series. The remainder of the time should be given to limited overs cricket, as it is far more popular now when compared to the longer format. If the ICC want to keep test format alive, then the solution is not to have more matches. The real solution is to make test cricket more interesting, by reducing the number of lop-sided matches.

ICC is doing his best to promote T20I by halting entire cricket during that tournament. What else you want ? ICC has only 10 months to complete the entire year of cricket. Test is important and founding block of cricket, it has its own benefits and its necessary for provision of good players for T20.

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Quote from: romero121 on March 21, 2022, 05:52:28 PM

For now atleast every cricket series will have a test match. This keeps the test cricket alive, and once again time comes back for test cricket. In the fast moving World people need to run more fast and by the time such a long cricket match is something unwanted. In reality, everyone doesn't think in such a way, if they've tasted how good test cricket matches.

This need to change, right? What is the point in having 3 test matches (15 days) in every series, when far fewer days are allotted to T20 and ODI cricket? I am OK with one test match per series. The remainder of the time should be given to limited overs cricket, as it is far more popular now when compared to the longer format. If the ICC want to keep test format alive, then the solution is not to have more matches. The real solution is to make test cricket more interesting, by reducing the number of lop-sided matches.

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