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There is bad news for the cricket fans in Asia:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/crickets-return-to-asian-games-2022-delayed-after-covid-19-outbreak-in-china-1313748

Cricket's return to Asian Games delayed after Covid-19 outbreak in China

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Cricket's return to the Asian Games after a gap of eight years has been delayed with the tournament postponed until 2023. The 19th edition of the Games was supposed to take place between September 10 and 25 in Hangzhou but a surge of Covid-19 cases in China has forced a chance of plans.

Cricket was part of Asian Games in 2010 and 2014, but was scrapped in 2018. This time the sport was included once more, but now we need to wait until 2023. As usual, the BCCI has refused to send teams to multi-sports events such as Asian Games. Back in 2010, Bangladesh and Pakistan won the gold medals and in 2014 it was Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

Also, I learnt that the BCCI had banned the women's players from taking part in the ongoing Fairbreak Invitational Tournament. Players from all around the world are taking part in this tournament and the Indian players are the only exception. Anyway, no one actually cares. I watched one of the matches yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on May 06, 2022, 12:41:12 AM

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I wonder what is the point of view of ICC in this matter. I really don't think cricket is in a good spot right now and ICC really does not seem to care about it. ICC is more interested in money and not interested in increasing the number of teams that play cricket at all. If anything we should be watching a lot more teams play in the world cup. And where ICC is not interested in upgrading men's cricket I really don't think they are interested at all in women's cricket

Cricket is in a good spot i would say, the T20 matches have changed the concept of spending the entire day to watch a match while we live in a fast pace world and no one would be interested or willing to spend an entire day to watch a match and with T20 matches it is possible to see a result within a few hours and that can help in generating interest for the new generation.

If more teams are competitive then there is no doubt they will be adding those teams in the main group, until then there is nothing even the ICC can do about that.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on May 06, 2022, 10:58:33 AM

Quote from: coinism on May 06, 2022, 01:17:40 AM

In England there is English Premier league, also England is good in summer Olympics and the list goes on. Australia is also not totally dependent on cricket. But if you see India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and SL they are only good and like cricket. If this region in future gets some other sports then survival of icc and cricket will be difficult.

That's why I have always been saying that ICC really needs to increase the number of teams playing cricket regularly otherwise cricket is eventually going to die.
if I am not wrong I think this region generates a lot more revenue than the others in cricket.
It is good that ICC wants this region to thrive in cricket but what happens if they lose interest?
Only the involvement of a lot more teams in cricket can save cricket in the long run.

Mate you are correct but sadly now it's not easy for ICC to increase number of cricket playing nations because it needs some good time and good planning but sadly no one interested in this case, so we have some serious troubles around ICC.

But, good thing is happening just T20 which is comfortable zone for them, and they can do some better with this format if they want to do some good in cricket other formats test and ODI are already out of way because mostly peoples feels these are waste of time, so this format can bring some better in cricket and with this T10 is also another option hopefully they will understand this all and try to manage some better marketing which bring some countries in this format, and we will be able to handle cricket as good sports just not for only gentlemen game because it's already having this for last 100 years without any gentleman.

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Quote from: coinism on May 06, 2022, 01:17:40 AM

Quote from: Smack That Ace on May 06, 2022, 12:41:12 AM

I really don't understand why ICC is comfortable with the current situation of cricket because no one else seems to be. I know that countries like England, Australia, and others are really interested in cricket but if somehow India loses its interest in cricket that will be a huge problem for ICC. They really need to be a lot more teams playing cricket.

In England there is English Premier league, also England is good in summer Olympics and the list goes on. Australia is also not totally dependent on cricket. But if you see India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and SL they are only good and like cricket. If this region in future gets some other sports then survival of icc and cricket will be difficult.

That's why I have always been saying that ICC really needs to increase the number of teams playing cricket regularly otherwise cricket is eventually going to die.
if I am not wrong I think this region generates a lot more revenue than the others in cricket.
It is good that ICC wants this region to thrive in cricket but what happens if they lose interest?
Only the involvement of a lot more teams in cricket can save cricket in the long run.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on May 06, 2022, 12:41:12 AM

I really don't understand why ICC is comfortable with the current situation of cricket because no one else seems to be. I know that countries like England, Australia, and others are really interested in cricket but if somehow India loses its interest in cricket that will be a huge problem for ICC. They really need to be a lot more teams playing cricket.

In England there is English Premier league, also England is good in summer Olympics and the list goes on. Australia is also not totally dependent on cricket. But if you see India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and SL they are only good and like cricket. If this region in future gets some other sports then survival of icc and cricket will be difficult.

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Right now the whole cricket industry is standing on shoulders of India, if bcci lose interest in cricket in case some other sports become popular in India then cricket will die. In present scenario it's very clear that icc is comfortable with current cricket playing nations and doesn't seem interested in inviting new countries.

I really don't understand why ICC is comfortable with the current situation of cricket because no one else seems to be. I know that countries like England, Australia, and others are really interested in cricket but if somehow India loses its interest in cricket that will be a huge problem for ICC. They really need to be a lot more teams playing cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 05, 2022, 08:34:25 PM

We should thank Fairbreak Global. They went through a lot of hardship in arranging and organizing this tournament, and they received zero support from the ICC. Fairbreak Global is an organization which strives for gender equality. And I watched one of the matches live on EUROSPORT yesterday, and found it very interesting. The match was between Barmy Army Women and Spirit Women. Barmy Army had star players such as Deandra Dottin, Laura Wolvaardt and Heather Knight in their squad, and to add to the diversity they had players such as Laura Cardoso (Brazil), Roberta Avery (Brazil), Tara Norris (USA) and Henriette Ishimwe (Rwanda). For the first time, I completely enjoyed watching a women's match.

Thanks to Fairbreak Global for arranging this 6 team tournament in Dubai and thanks for sharing that it's available on Eurosport. We need more tournaments like that in order to promote women cricket team. Recently we have Women world cup and now this one. Though Women cricket need lot more attention to reach global audience.

I wonder what is the point of view of ICC in this matter. I really don't think cricket is in a good spot right now and ICC really does not seem to care about it. ICC is more interested in money and not interested in increasing the number of teams that play cricket at all. If anything we should be watching a lot more teams play in the world cup. And where ICC is not interested in upgrading men's cricket I really don't think they are interested at all in women's cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 05, 2022, 08:34:25 PM

We should thank Fairbreak Global. They went through a lot of hardship in arranging and organizing this tournament, and they received zero support from the ICC. Fairbreak Global is an organization which strives for gender equality. And I watched one of the matches live on EUROSPORT yesterday, and found it very interesting. The match was between Barmy Army Women and Spirit Women. Barmy Army had star players such as Deandra Dottin, Laura Wolvaardt and Heather Knight in their squad, and to add to the diversity they had players such as Laura Cardoso (Brazil), Roberta Avery (Brazil), Tara Norris (USA) and Henriette Ishimwe (Rwanda). For the first time, I completely enjoyed watching a women's match.

Thanks to Fairbreak Global for arranging this 6 team tournament in Dubai and thanks for sharing that it's available on Eurosport. We need more tournaments like that in order to promote women cricket team. Recently we have Women world cup and now this one. Though Women cricket need lot more attention to reach global audience.

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Quote from: coinism on May 05, 2022, 03:20:39 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 04, 2022, 10:03:57 PM

LOL... this tournament (FairBreak Invitational Tournament) has nothing to do with the ICC. This is a privately organized tournament and the credit should go to Shaun Martyn of Fairbreak Global. ICC has zero interest in globalizing the game and they don't have much interest in women's cricket either. The ICC didn't even offered any coverage regarding this tournament on their website. A total of 90 players (divided in to 6 franchises) are taking part, and the majority are from associate nations. Even players from countries such as Rwanda, Brazil and Philippines are present.

Seeing the interest of people in women cricket, ICC has given up all efforts to promote women cricket. But its a good move to gather so many women players and arrange a tournament for them. Though I don't think it will be much beneficial in terms of financial gain but definitely will help players of associate teams to improve there cricket.

We should thank Fairbreak Global. They went through a lot of hardship in arranging and organizing this tournament, and they received zero support from the ICC. Fairbreak Global is an organization which strives for gender equality. And I watched one of the matches live on EUROSPORT yesterday, and found it very interesting. The match was between Barmy Army Women and Spirit Women. Barmy Army had star players such as Deandra Dottin, Laura Wolvaardt and Heather Knight in their squad, and to add to the diversity they had players such as Laura Cardoso (Brazil), Roberta Avery (Brazil), Tara Norris (USA) and Henriette Ishimwe (Rwanda). For the first time, I completely enjoyed watching a women's match.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on May 05, 2022, 09:11:44 AM

All ICC has ever shown interest is in the money that comes from cricket and they are so blinded by the money that they cannot even see if the cricket does not spread around the world as a global sport they will eventually lose money and cricket will eventually die. and that has been the case for quite a long time where people are saying cricket needs to be globalized but ICC does not seem over it at all about it. It's ok to look for money because ultimately you need money to run a pretty big sports organization but if there is no one to play cricket what's the point of having money?

Right now the whole cricket industry is standing on shoulders of India, if bcci lose interest in cricket in case some other sports become popular in India then cricket will die. In present scenario it's very clear that icc is comfortable with current cricket playing nations and doesn't seem interested in inviting new countries.

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Quote from: coinism on May 05, 2022, 03:20:39 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 04, 2022, 10:03:57 PM

LOL... this tournament (FairBreak Invitational Tournament) has nothing to do with the ICC. This is a privately organized tournament and the credit should go to Shaun Martyn of Fairbreak Global. ICC has zero interest in globalizing the game and they don't have much interest in women's cricket either. The ICC didn't even offered any coverage regarding this tournament on their website. A total of 90 players (divided in to 6 franchises) are taking part, and the majority are from associate nations. Even players from countries such as Rwanda, Brazil and Philippines are present.

Seeing the interest of people in women cricket, ICC has given up all efforts to promote women cricket. But its a good move to gather so many women players and arrange a tournament for them. Though I don't think it will be much beneficial in terms of financial gain but definitely will help players of associate teams to improve there cricket.

All ICC has ever shown interest is in the money that comes from cricket and they are so blinded by the money that they cannot even see if the cricket does not spread around the world as a global sport they will eventually lose money and cricket will eventually die. and that has been the case for quite a long time where people are saying cricket needs to be globalized but ICC does not seem over it at all about it. It's ok to look for money because ultimately you need money to run a pretty big sports organization but if there is no one to play cricket what's the point of having money?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 04, 2022, 10:03:57 PM

LOL... this tournament (FairBreak Invitational Tournament) has nothing to do with the ICC. This is a privately organized tournament and the credit should go to Shaun Martyn of Fairbreak Global. ICC has zero interest in globalizing the game and they don't have much interest in women's cricket either. The ICC didn't even offered any coverage regarding this tournament on their website. A total of 90 players (divided in to 6 franchises) are taking part, and the majority are from associate nations. Even players from countries such as Rwanda, Brazil and Philippines are present.

Seeing the interest of people in women cricket, ICC has given up all efforts to promote women cricket. But its a good move to gather so many women players and arrange a tournament for them. Though I don't think it will be much beneficial in terms of financial gain but definitely will help players of associate teams to improve there cricket.

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Quote from: coinism on May 03, 2022, 08:25:21 AM

This thread is silent for almost a week now. We have only 4 cricket threads and due to IPL there isn't much to discuss about cricket these days. ICC has conducting a tournament for women in Pakistan that have players coming from 35 countries
"...as is the case with all the teams in the competition, which aims to bring together cricketers from 30 countries to increase playing opportunities across the women's game..." source

LOL... this tournament (FairBreak Invitational Tournament) has nothing to do with the ICC. This is a privately organized tournament and the credit should go to Shaun Martyn of Fairbreak Global. ICC has zero interest in globalizing the game and they don't have much interest in women's cricket either. The ICC didn't even offered any coverage regarding this tournament on their website. A total of 90 players (divided in to 6 franchises) are taking part, and the majority are from associate nations. Even players from countries such as Rwanda, Brazil and Philippines are present.

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Quote from: coinism on May 03, 2022, 08:25:21 AM

This thread is silent for almost a week now. We have only 4 cricket threads and due to IPL there isn't much to discuss about cricket these days. ICC has conducting a tournament for women in Pakistan that have players coming from 35 countries
"...as is the case with all the teams in the competition, which aims to bring together cricketers from 30 countries to increase playing opportunities across the women's game..." source

@coinism this is a general thread where we can discuss all formats, but currently there’s not any breaking news which we can discuss here, plus the T20 thread is enough for IPL for now. Lastly I wasn’t even aware of this tournament which again proves how little marketing is done for Women’s cricket, but I hope in the long run they get good coverage like their male counterparts get.

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This thread is silent for almost a week now. We have only 4 cricket threads and due to IPL there isn't much to discuss about cricket these days. ICC has conducting a tournament for women in Pakistan that have players coming from 35 countries
"...as is the case with all the teams in the competition, which aims to bring together cricketers from 30 countries to increase playing opportunities across the women's game..." source

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Quote from: blatchcorn on April 29, 2022, 01:14:53 PM

MLC, Knight Riders team up for 10,000 seater stadium near Los Angeles. Venue could be ready to host men's T20 World Cup in 2024

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I dont know why people are getting too excited in taking cricket to USA where there is zero interest, if quarter of that capital or interest in shown in new frontiers then we can have huge countries in cricket eco-system.

That is surprising - why the World Cup is going to the country - the country which don't have cricket team as well.
Very strange though. There are other countries which are good hosts and have great fan followings as well. Don't know what is the idea behind it.

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MLC, Knight Riders team up for 10,000 seater stadium near Los Angeles. Venue could be ready to host men's T20 World Cup in 2024

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I dont know why people are getting too excited in taking cricket to USA where there is zero interest, if quarter of that capital or interest in shown in new frontiers then we can have huge countries in cricket eco-system.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on April 27, 2022, 08:58:50 AM

I actually realized something now everyone should concentrate on how to increase the number of countries that play cricket. That seems a much more relevant problem right now rather than just increasing the facilities and other things among the teams that are already playing at the higher level of cricket. because without the participation of a lot more countries cricket is never going to be as popular as many other sports like football. Unless this fighting for power ends that is certainly not going to happen.

Ever since I started watching cricket there were 9 test teams, in 1999 Bangladesh joined in and since then there is no addition of proper country in cricket. Rather Zimbabwe test status has been cancelled. So at the moment 9 test countries are playing. In first 2 decades of 2000 ICC failed to produce any test team, thats astonishing.

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It might be a really good idea if this thing is handled by both Cricketers and Businessmen because they really need to understand that a businessman will always think about money. and a cricketer will always have the knowledge of what to do because he has experience in actual cricket.
So, I think it will be a really good idea if both types of people come together to build up a good partnership and I think that will be the best process for the upgradation of Pakistan cricket. And I really think this is why India has really good viewership and their pipeline of young players is really strong.

No doubt its good idea they can create two posts like Chairman and CEO with this we can produce good combination one businessman and other good cricketer with administrative skills, but this all is not easy to settle because here we have too many other problems as well which are not helping anyone like foremost need to clear all authorities from political wings because it's just like a cancer which is eating all secondary here things are not good as we have in European countries they are doing good jobs for their countries and for better future of sports here in Asian culture we have no balance like this mostly they fight for power and mostly it's end in very bad way like government have to involve for all settlements, or we have some good corruption charges against each other which also create some big issues.

I actually realized something now everyone should concentrate on how to increase the number of countries that play cricket. That seems a much more relevant problem right now rather than just increasing the facilities and other things among the teams that are already playing at the higher level of cricket. because without the participation of a lot more countries cricket is never going to be as popular as many other sports like football. Unless this fighting for power ends that is certainly not going to happen.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 26, 2022, 08:37:47 PM

Pollard is almost 35 years old, and he has another 3-4 years left in the IPL. Can't be sure of anything, because Chris Gayle is 42-years old and there is still a lot of demand for him from various franchise T20 leagues. So he may remain in franchise cricket for much more than 3-4 years. And right now, he is one of the most valuable players in the IPL. Mumbai Indians have performed pathetically so far this season, but all the blame is falling on Ishan Kishan and Rohit Sharma. Pollard has so far performed in a satisfactory manner.

Even shahid afridi is playing T20 leagues at the age of 41 years, he has graced PSL this year by announcing his retirement from this league. Ishan is rightly criticised, I think management of MI who put huge money on such player need to be criticised firstly. Rohit sharma is Indian team captain and such performance is unacceptable from him.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 25, 2022, 03:38:12 PM

This explosive all-rounder is set to still continue to play this season that is expected to provide firepower. And hopefully by next year, he will be part of the T20 or T10 leagues which i think will be more visible as he has just resigned from an international cricket. With all the experience and skills that he has achieved, i think everyone is excited to see his next journey apart from being an international cricket player.

Pollard is almost 35 years old, and he has another 3-4 years left in the IPL. Can't be sure of anything, because Chris Gayle is 42-years old and there is still a lot of demand for him from various franchise T20 leagues. So he may remain in franchise cricket for much more than 3-4 years. And right now, he is one of the most valuable players in the IPL. Mumbai Indians have performed pathetically so far this season, but all the blame is falling on Ishan Kishan and Rohit Sharma. Pollard has so far performed in a satisfactory manner.

@Sithara007 it’s a logical decision as he’s more suited for T20, plus he’ll make insane amount of money playing in all T20 leagues then he would have made while playing for WI. However I’m hoping that he moves on from MI,
next season, because they need to reset their squad in next year’s auction, and while he has performed well in few matches I had way more hopes from him so I’m kinda disappointed by his performances too.

^^ I still think that he has a lot to offer to t20 cricket. And at 35 years old I think it's a good decision for any player to retire from the international arena. Because if he was still playing in the international arena he would have had to face a lot of challenges including ODI and test cricket. And at this age that is certainly not suitable for the player's body. I think it is the right decision to take and he made a good choice.
But, I also think that he really needs to move on from his present IPL team because right now it seems like he will be best suited for other teams.

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