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Quote from: JSRAW on May 08, 2022, 06:44:11 AM

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I really don't care much about if they are participating in Asian Games or not because it's directly related to commercial interest and ridiculous messy schedule.
But i'm really pissed at BCCI for not starting WIPL. These girls deserve this and most importantly Women cricket deserve WIPL. Although pressure is building up on BCCI regarding WIPL and they can't deny this for long so i'm expecting some positive news with in year.

Well, we all should care about cricket being a part of the Asian Games otherwise cricket is not going to prosper in the long run and cricket should also be made a part of the Olympics very soon. Otherwise, we will be stuck with watching the cricket world cup only for teams for a long time. because we all know that there are only 4 or 5 teams that actually can win the cricket World Cup.

We should be practical on all our efforts IMO.
We have 1 ICC tournament every year + 3-5 bilateral Test series every year + Countless random T-20 bilateral series + Asia Cup every 2 years + 2 Month IPL every year. This is jam pack schedule. BTW Asia cup is pending since 2018.
Potential solution would be cricket inclusion in the Olympics but with age restrictions (under 23) similar to football or ICC should add 6-10 more teams in the WC.

Yes, I agree and I think ICC should think about the smaller teams and make cricket a lot more interesting to them than it is right now.
If any work in bringing in the new teams don't work out I don't think cricket is going to be in a good spot in the long run.

Cricket needs to have influence all over the world because cricket only being played in the subcontinent or in some certain countries is obviously not going to draw interest from the other countries that are not too much interested in cricket right now.

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Including Cricket in the Olympics would encourage people to take up cricket so that they can go to the Olympics and certain countries would fund them to find the talents and that is the best thing the ICC can do right now. You need the help of the government and the sports body to identify talents and ICC alone cannot do anything.

Yes, that can certainly increase the number of countries that plays cricket, and also it is surely going to boost the popularity of cricket.
To be honest it should have been done a long time ago and people are actually really obvious that ICC doesn't have too much headache about this.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 07, 2022, 08:42:16 AM

May be that is the way ICC is planning to introduce Cricket in a big way to the US fans. It is not even a popular sport in the US but they might be having some kind of plans to attract the fans. They get the media attention if the tournament is conducted and major news network will be airing them, other than that the gate will be empty and the ICC might be planning that they get the required number with broadcasting rights.

In usa there is huge number of migrants from South Asia and they made up mostly of the USA national team. In most of countries native people are not much interested in cricket but only migrants from South Asia are take example of UAE, Oman, Germany, Canada. ICC need to do some serious efforts to promote people among native.

It looks like people from the south asia are dominating the cricket around the world countries. Cricket as a sport isn't much recognised in the western nations, other than the few countries. This is the reason why Asian players are found much on the new teams. We can't say local natives weren't there. Every team have got good number of natives and rest were from the Asian parts.

I think the actual problem is that South Asian people grow up watching and playing cricket from a very young age and that is obviously not the case in a lot of Western countries.

Here, most of us are very interested in NBA and football. and most of those games are there really cheap to play and can be played anywhere in any weather or need a very little space to play and very few amounts of people.

But cricket needs a lot more than that, the weather also needs to be right for the cricket stump and that is a big reason why cricket is not popular in certain countries in certain geographical positions.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 07, 2022, 06:26:56 AM

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I really don't understand why ICC is comfortable with the current situation of cricket because no one else seems to be. I know that countries like England, Australia, and others are really interested in cricket but if somehow India loses its interest in cricket that will be a huge problem for ICC. They really need to be a lot more teams playing cricket.

ICC is waiting for some full fledge disaster.

They might wake up from their sleep when BCCI expand IPL into 12 or 16 team tournament in next decade or so, that means 4-6 months or more fixed for T-20 league only (atleast for Indian players). Other countries would follow the same with their respective league.

First casualty will be Test cricket, followed by ODI WC.

Yes, I actually think that could happen because the way cricket is moving forward and the way T-20 is gaining popularity it is very possible to happen. and at that time ICC will not be able to do anything because no one is going to listen to them and the top boards will not need to listen to the ICC because they will have their own money to run everything. the smaller cricket boards will surely suffer because they actually depend quite heavily on the money that they get from the ICC.

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I really don't care much about if they are participating in Asian Games or not because it's directly related to commercial interest and ridiculous messy schedule.

But i'm really pissed at BCCI for not starting WIPL. These girls deserve this and most importantly Women cricket deserve WIPL. Although pressure is building up on BCCI regarding WIPL and they can't deny this for long so i'm expecting some positive news with in year.

Well, we all should care about cricket being a part of the Asian Games otherwise cricket is not going to prosper in the long run and cricket should also be made a part of the Olympics very soon. Otherwise, we will be stuck with watching the cricket world cup only for teams for a long time. because we all know that there are only 4 or 5 teams that actually can win the cricket World Cup.

We should be practical on all our efforts IMO.

We have 1 ICC tournament every year + 3-5 bilateral Test series every year + Countless random T-20 bilateral series + Asia Cup every 2 years + 2 Month IPL every year. This is jam pack schedule. BTW Asia cup is pending since 2018.

Potential solution would be cricket inclusion in the Olympics but with age restrictions (under 23) similar to football or ICC should add 6-10 more teams in the WC.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 08, 2022, 05:29:43 AM

Including Cricket in the Olympics would encourage people to take up cricket so that they can go to the Olympics and certain countries would fund them to find the talents and that is the best thing the ICC can do right now. You need the help of the government and the sports body to identify talents and ICC alone cannot do anything.

Cricket journey for being part of olympics is still not coming to end atleast in 2028, "Cricket is already on the back foot having recently been excluded from the provisional list of 28 sports for the 2028 Games, an apparent blow for inclusion into the Olympics for the first time since 1900." espncricinfo
Governments of test teams are already doing good enough for cricket, ICC role should be to promote cricket to countries where cricket is not yet introduced.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on May 08, 2022, 02:49:53 AM

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That's because if France of Brazil even quit football, fifa has lot many quality teams to run the football affairs. But in case of cricket it's not the case, as cricket is mostly dependent on India. BCCI is the reason why we have so much money in cricket right now in the form of IPL. BCCI is doing good for cricket but at the same time they are dictating there own terms and conditions to ICC.

You cannot compare Football and Cricket. World Cup is the only major tournament in Football and club matches are really interesting while Cricket is not that big and only recently we are seeing franchise cricket.

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Well, we all should care about cricket being a part of the Asian Games otherwise cricket is not going to prosper in the long run and cricket should also be made a part of the Olympics very soon. Otherwise, we will be stuck with watching the cricket world cup only for teams for a long time. because we all know that there are only 4 or 5 teams that actually can win the cricket World Cup.

Including Cricket in the Olympics would encourage people to take up cricket so that they can go to the Olympics and certain countries would fund them to find the talents and that is the best thing the ICC can do right now. You need the help of the government and the sports body to identify talents and ICC alone cannot do anything.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 07, 2022, 09:40:58 PM

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LOL.... try explaining this to the BCCI. All they care is about the money. Have you ever wondered why we don't have a WIPL yet, although other boards have long established women's leagues such as WBBL and WHundred? The opposition from BCCI was the reason why last time the Olympic inclusion plan was scrapped. I have never seen such behavior in any other sports. Brazil and France dominates football and USA dominates basketball. But I have never seen them misusing their power and influence as much as the BCCI do.

Obviously, the only reason BCCI does not have a well-established women's cricketing situation in India just because they are not quite sure that they will get good enough revenue out of it and that's why they are not willing to take that risk right now. It is absolutely true that in other sports which our country place will never seem to dominate and misuse their power like this

Quote from: JSRAW on May 07, 2022, 10:12:29 PM

I really don't care much about if they are participating in Asian Games or not because it's directly related to commercial interest and ridiculous messy schedule.

But i'm really pissed at BCCI for not starting WIPL. These girls deserve this and most importantly Women cricket deserve WIPL. Although pressure is building up on BCCI regarding WIPL and they can't deny this for long so i'm expecting some positive news with in year.

Well, we all should care about cricket being a part of the Asian Games otherwise cricket is not going to prosper in the long run and cricket should also be made a part of the Olympics very soon. Otherwise, we will be stuck with watching the cricket world cup only for teams for a long time. because we all know that there are only 4 or 5 teams that actually can win the cricket World Cup.

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Quote from: romero121 on May 07, 2022, 06:01:20 PM

It looks like people from the south asia are dominating the cricket around the world countries. Cricket as a sport isn't much recognised in the western nations, other than the few countries. This is the reason why Asian players are found much on the new teams. We can't say local natives weren't there. Every team have got good number of natives and rest were from the Asian parts.

We can say more players were of south Asian origin then native in associate teams. Even we can see players of south Asian origin in teams of Australia, South Africa and England. The UK 100 years of rule here in south asia has promoted cricket so much here that its now impossible to think about cricket without south asia.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 07, 2022, 09:40:58 PM

LOL.... try explaining this to the BCCI. All they care is about the money. Have you ever wondered why we don't have a WIPL yet, although other boards have long established women's leagues such as WBBL and WHundred? The opposition from BCCI was the reason why last time the Olympic inclusion plan was scrapped. I have never seen such behavior in any other sports. Brazil and France dominates football and USA dominates basketball. But I have never seen them misusing their power and influence as much as the BCCI do.

That's because if France of Brazil even quit football, fifa has lot many quality teams to run the football affairs. But in case of cricket it's not the case, as cricket is mostly dependent on India. BCCI is the reason why we have so much money in cricket right now in the form of IPL. BCCI is doing good for cricket but at the same time they are dictating there own terms and conditions to ICC.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 07, 2022, 09:40:58 PM

~snip~

LOL.... try explaining this to the BCCI. All they care is about the money. Have you ever wondered why we don't have a WIPL yet, although other boards have long established women's leagues such as WBBL and WHundred? The opposition from BCCI was the reason why last time the Olympic inclusion plan was scrapped. I have never seen such behavior in any other sports. Brazil and France dominates football and USA dominates basketball. But I have never seen them misusing their power and influence as much as the BCCI do.

I really don't care much about if they are participating in Asian Games or not because it's directly related to commercial interest and ridiculous messy schedule.

But i'm really pissed at BCCI for not starting WIPL. These girls deserve this and most importantly Women cricket deserve WIPL. Although pressure is building up on BCCI regarding WIPL and they can't deny this for long so i'm expecting some positive news with in year.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on May 07, 2022, 05:54:41 AM

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Cricket was part of Asian Games in 2010 and 2014, but was scrapped in 2018. This time the sport was included once more, but now we need to wait until 2023. As usual, the BCCI has refused to send teams to multi-sports events such as Asian Games. Back in 2010, Bangladesh and Pakistan won the gold medals and in 2014 it was Pakistan and Sri Lanka.
Also, I learnt that the BCCI had banned the women's players from taking part in the ongoing Fairbreak Invitational Tournament. Players from all around the world are taking part in this tournament and the Indian players are the only exception. Anyway, no one actually cares. I watched one of the matches yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it.

I don't understand why BCCI has to do something like this every time. do they feel like they are something premium that should be unlocked with money?

Otherwise, I don't see the reason why cricket should be restricted from the people that want to enjoy it. This will surely be a bad decision for the women's cricket of India and as far as I know, they are not doing very well right now so with a good amount of playing time they would have done really great.a

LOL.... try explaining this to the BCCI. All they care is about the money. Have you ever wondered why we don't have a WIPL yet, although other boards have long established women's leagues such as WBBL and WHundred? The opposition from BCCI was the reason why last time the Olympic inclusion plan was scrapped. I have never seen such behavior in any other sports. Brazil and France dominates football and USA dominates basketball. But I have never seen them misusing their power and influence as much as the BCCI do.

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Quote from: sovie on May 07, 2022, 09:51:46 AM

Quote from: eaLiTy on May 07, 2022, 08:42:16 AM

May be that is the way ICC is planning to introduce Cricket in a big way to the US fans. It is not even a popular sport in the US but they might be having some kind of plans to attract the fans. They get the media attention if the tournament is conducted and major news network will be airing them, other than that the gate will be empty and the ICC might be planning that they get the required number with broadcasting rights.

In usa there is huge number of migrants from South Asia and they made up mostly of the USA national team. In most of countries native people are not much interested in cricket but only migrants from South Asia are take example of UAE, Oman, Germany, Canada. ICC need to do some serious efforts to promote people among native.

It looks like people from the south asia are dominating the cricket around the world countries. Cricket as a sport isn't much recognised in the western nations, other than the few countries. This is the reason why Asian players are found much on the new teams. We can't say local natives weren't there. Every team have got good number of natives and rest were from the Asian parts.

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Quote from: sovie on May 07, 2022, 09:51:46 AM

In usa there is huge number of migrants from South Asia and they made up mostly of the USA national team. In most of countries native people are not much interested in cricket but only migrants from South Asia are take example of UAE, Oman, Germany, Canada. ICC need to do some serious efforts to promote people among native.

You are aware that majority of the countries you mentioned are not taking the sport of Cricket seriously and their teams are made up of expats. So how do you think the ICC will promote the sport among natives, what is your opinion, if the local government or governing body cannot peak interest to their nationals how on earth does ICC peak their interest to come play the sport they are least interested Roll Eyes

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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 07, 2022, 08:42:16 AM

May be that is the way ICC is planning to introduce Cricket in a big way to the US fans. It is not even a popular sport in the US but they might be having some kind of plans to attract the fans. They get the media attention if the tournament is conducted and major news network will be airing them, other than that the gate will be empty and the ICC might be planning that they get the required number with broadcasting rights.

In usa there is huge number of migrants from South Asia and they made up mostly of the USA national team. In most of countries native people are not much interested in cricket but only migrants from South Asia are take example of UAE, Oman, Germany, Canada. ICC need to do some serious efforts to promote people among native.

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Quote from: Theones on April 29, 2022, 02:28:49 PM

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That is surprising - why the World Cup is going to the country - the country which don't have cricket team as well.
Very strange though. There are other countries which are good hosts and have great fan followings as well. Don't know what is the idea behind it.

May be that is the way ICC is planning to introduce Cricket in a big way to the US fans. It is not even a popular sport in the US but they might be having some kind of plans to attract the fans. They get the media attention if the tournament is conducted and major news network will be airing them, other than that the gate will be empty and the ICC might be planning that they get the required number with broadcasting rights.

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That's why I have always been saying that ICC really needs to increase the number of teams playing cricket regularly otherwise cricket is eventually going to die.
if I am not wrong I think this region generates a lot more revenue than the others in cricket.
It is good that ICC wants this region to thrive in cricket but what happens if they lose interest?
Only the involvement of a lot more teams in cricket can save cricket in the long run.

Mate you are correct but sadly now it's not easy for ICC to increase number of cricket playing nations because it needs some good time and good planning but sadly no one interested in this case, so we have some serious troubles around ICC.

But, good thing is happening just T20 which is comfortable zone for them, and they can do some better with this format if they want to do some good in cricket other formats test and ODI are already out of way because mostly peoples feels these are waste of time, so this format can bring some better in cricket and with this T10 is also another option hopefully they will understand this all and try to manage some better marketing which bring some countries in this format, and we will be able to handle cricket as good sports just not for only gentlemen game because it's already having this for last 100 years without any gentleman.

I think T20 has come as a Savior for cricket otherwise the team that are weak and also countries that are not interested in spending a lot of time in a match, doesn't matter if it is as a player or as a supporter. I think the T-20 is a good range for everyone and it can provide everyone with almost everything that people need out of cricket. and ICC will surely be making a mistake if they don't recognize the opportunity and not try to increase the number of teams that play cricket regularly.

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I wonder what is the point of view of ICC in this matter. I really don't think cricket is in a good spot right now and ICC really does not seem to care about it. ICC is more interested in money and not interested in increasing the number of teams that play cricket at all. If anything we should be watching a lot more teams play in the world cup. And where ICC is not interested in upgrading men's cricket I really don't think they are interested at all in women's cricket

Cricket is in a good spot i would say, the T20 matches have changed the concept of spending the entire day to watch a match while we live in a fast pace world and no one would be interested or willing to spend an entire day to watch a match and with T20 matches it is possible to see a result within a few hours and that can help in generating interest for the new generation.

If more teams are competitive then there is no doubt they will be adding those teams in the main group, until then there is nothing even the ICC can do about that.

I am not going to say that cricket is in a good spot because if cricket was in a good spot it would have been played by a lot more countries around the world and I am also not going to say that cricket is in a bad spot either.
I think this is the space between bad and good where cricket is right now. cricket can be one of the best games around the whole world from now on and it also can turn out to be a dead game. T20 is a popular format of cricket right now and a lot of countries have been interested. so ICC needs to recognize the opportunity and try to increase the teams playing cricket regularly even if it is just T20 cricket.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on May 06, 2022, 12:41:12 AM

I really don't understand why ICC is comfortable with the current situation of cricket because no one else seems to be. I know that countries like England, Australia, and others are really interested in cricket but if somehow India loses its interest in cricket that will be a huge problem for ICC. They really need to be a lot more teams playing cricket.

ICC is waiting for some full fledge disaster.

They might wake up from their sleep when BCCI expand IPL into 12 or 16 team tournament in next decade or so, that means 4-6 months or more fixed for T-20 league only (atleast for Indian players). Other countries would follow the same with their respective league.

First casualty will be Test cricket, followed by ODI WC.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on May 07, 2022, 05:54:41 AM

I don't understand why BCCI has to do something like this every time. do they feel like they are something premium that should be unlocked with money?

Otherwise, I don't see the reason why cricket should be restricted from the people that want to enjoy it. This will surely be a bad decision for the women's cricket of India and as far as I know, they are not doing very well right now so with a good amount of playing time they would have done really great.a

BCCI has such policy for there men players that they can't play any league. Indian women players play BBL to gain experience as there is no WIPL in India. Now in Duabi all countries are sending there women players for the tournament less BCCI, this is something only BCCi can answer.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 06, 2022, 09:54:47 PM

There is bad news for the cricket fans in Asia:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/crickets-return-to-asian-games-2022-delayed-after-covid-19-outbreak-in-china-1313748
Cricket's return to Asian Games delayed after Covid-19 outbreak in China

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Cricket's return to the Asian Games after a gap of eight years has been delayed with the tournament postponed until 2023. The 19th edition of the Games was supposed to take place between September 10 and 25 in Hangzhou but a surge of Covid-19 cases in China has forced a chance of plans.

Cricket was part of Asian Games in 2010 and 2014, but was scrapped in 2018. This time the sport was included once more, but now we need to wait until 2023. As usual, the BCCI has refused to send teams to multi-sports events such as Asian Games. Back in 2010, Bangladesh and Pakistan won the gold medals and in 2014 it was Pakistan and Sri Lanka.
Also, I learnt that the BCCI had banned the women's players from taking part in the ongoing Fairbreak Invitational Tournament. Players from all around the world are taking part in this tournament and the Indian players are the only exception. Anyway, no one actually cares. I watched one of the matches yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it.

I don't understand why BCCI has to do something like this every time. do they feel like they are something premium that should be unlocked with money?

Otherwise, I don't see the reason why cricket should be restricted from the people that want to enjoy it. This will surely be a bad decision for the women's cricket of India and as far as I know, they are not doing very well right now so with a good amount of playing time they would have done really great.a

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 06, 2022, 09:54:47 PM

There is bad news for the cricket fans in Asia:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/crickets-return-to-asian-games-2022-delayed-after-covid-19-outbreak-in-china-1313748

Cricket's return to Asian Games delayed after Covid-19 outbreak in China

Wait a minute. So China is having another severe layer of covid19, what does that mean for us? When things were about to get normal the this is happening.
Overall Asian games were delayed, let's just hope things went well and we have Asian games in 2023 and no more outbreak of cvoid.
BCCI continue to show its arrogance by not allowing its players to take part in women tournament in Dubai. That's so arrogant.

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