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Quote from: KennyR on May 09, 2022, 06:59:26 PM

In the past there were more discussion that cricket is time consuming for which Western nations were not into it. Slowly this has changed as the popularity of cricket keeps increasing around the world. As said, few countries are dominant in this and more countries participation will make cricket to be big as soccer. When we talk of Olympics, there is nothing to complicate. When it is asked to the Olympic committee it is said that no application has been received so for to add cricket. We don't know what is the truth.

With this all we can understand what is going on ICC is not interested and because here few countries can lose their worth with this all, so they are not interested in any positive thing for cricket.

Because few months back I read somewhere ICC announced they already send their application, and we are going to Olympics after 10 to 15 years but with this statement all is clear that these corrupt shits are not giving any priority for having good and respective things for cricket and playing their own dirty games for benefiting their Gulf region sponsors. I am going with IOC as they are right they have no application from ICC because these are liars and crap peoples those are working around ICC.

I really don't think that ICC is actually worried about inserting cricket into the Olympic games because they are very happy with the money that has been generated by cricket and they are very happy by just sitting in the house and counting that money. Right now I really don't have any high hopes about cricket and I know with the current ICC members nothing is going to go well for cricket. this peoples just want money and they are not worried about the greatness of the game at all.

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it really hurts to see cricket not having any Long Term plan. because as cricket fans we all expect that cricket is going to be played even after we are dead and will be played by many future generations but ICC does not think about the game like that. they are just thinking,’ do I have enough money? yes, I do so cricket is good.

Recently with the introduction of T20 things are change very quickly hopefully in near future we will have some good news with many countries are trying to adopt this new format and bringing their intention in this game but sadly for entry of cricket in Olympics and Asian games we have to wait as this happen surely this will bring some big change and many new countries also join this game as they will be able to have some good funds from IOC and other relative spots authorities.

But, this can hurt our few associates with Olympics has their own system, and they mostly love countries have their own native players instead of having adopted countries which is also good for the game but not for these countries those are bringing players from Sub-Continent for better results instead of having their own domestic set up.

I believe T20 is going to give the new world countries a chance to get recognized with cricket because the other two formats require a lot more skill than T20 cricket. it would be really great to see at least 20 teams participating in the cricket World Cup. And I hope the number is going to increase gradually.

Quote from: KennyR on May 09, 2022, 06:59:26 PM

In the past there were more discussion that cricket is time consuming for which Western nations were not into it. Slowly this has changed as the popularity of cricket keeps increasing around the world. As said, few countries are dominant in this and more countries participation will make cricket to be big as soccer. When we talk of Olympics, there is nothing to complicate. When it is asked to the Olympic committee it is said that no application has been received so for to add cricket. We don't know what is the truth.

ICC is really not interested to make cricket a bigger spot around the world but I think the T20 cricket is really going to attract more and more countries towards cricket because it is obviously not that time-consuming. so I believe cricket can have a global acceptance through T20 cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 09, 2022, 09:43:21 PM

Well.. that is the truth. The IOC reported that they haven't received any application from the ICC, to make cricket as one of the disciplines in Olympic Games. The ICC on the other hand has been trying to fool the fans, by claiming otherwise. Recent opinion polls found overwhelming support from the fans regarding Olympic inclusion. But the businessmen who are in power at the ICC remain opposed to it, for obvious reasons. Now I don't think that IOC will give any special treatment to ICC, when they don't need to do the same with other sports bodies such as the FIFA, FIBA and the FIH.

If this is true then its very bad act by ICC. I searched and wasn't able to find any authentic source where IOC says that they haven't received any request from ICC. On ICC official websiteI found this:

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The International Cricket Council has today confirmed its intention to bid for cricket’s inclusion in the Olympic Games. The ICC has convened a Working Group to lead the bid on behalf of the sport which will be focused on cricket becoming part of the Olympic family for LA 2028, Brisbane 2032 and beyond.

If its true then why ICC is doing so? One main reason can be that Big-3 doesn't want more countries to participate in cricket so that they remain sole king.

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Quote from: KennyR on May 09, 2022, 06:59:26 PM

In the past there were more discussion that cricket is time consuming for which Western nations were not into it. Slowly this has changed as the popularity of cricket keeps increasing around the world. As said, few countries are dominant in this and more countries participation will make cricket to be big as soccer. When we talk of Olympics, there is nothing to complicate. When it is asked to the Olympic committee it is said that no application has been received so for to add cricket. We don't know what is the truth.

With this all we can understand what is going on ICC is not interested and because here few countries can lose their worth with this all, so they are not interested in any positive thing for cricket.

Because few months back I read somewhere ICC announced they already send their application, and we are going to Olympics after 10 to 15 years but with this statement all is clear that these corrupt shits are not giving any priority for having good and respective things for cricket and playing their own dirty games for benefiting their Gulf region sponsors. I am going with IOC as they are right they have no application from ICC because these are liars and crap peoples those are working around ICC.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 09, 2022, 09:43:21 PM

Well.. that is the truth. The IOC reported that they haven't received any application from the ICC, to make cricket as one of the disciplines in Olympic Games. The ICC on the other hand has been trying to fool the fans, by claiming otherwise. Recent opinion polls found overwhelming support from the fans regarding Olympic inclusion. But the businessmen who are in power at the ICC remain opposed to it, for obvious reasons. Now I don't think that IOC will give any special treatment to ICC, when they don't need to do the same with other sports bodies such as the FIFA, FIBA and the FIH.

I really don't understand why ICC is not really interested in adding cricket to the Olympic games. I think ICC might be thinking that they want to add we get into the Olympic Games after it becomes a bigger game and has more importance globally but I also don't see them trying to do that as well.

Quote from: Juggy777 on May 09, 2022, 10:21:12 PM

@Sithara007 is it even possible to have test cricket in the Olympics in a hypothetical scenario, because won’t it increase the length of the Olympics too much?.

Furthermore does cricket really needs Olympics? because it’s already popular, and even if it never gets added to the Olympics then too it’ll do just fine in my personal opinion.

Lastly instead of getting cricket into Olympics ICC should focus primarily on making test cricket more interesting via night tests, and use of pink balls as I had suggested previously.

I really am not going to say cricket is popular when the World Cup of cricket is being played by only 10 to 12 teams. And I really don't think test cricket being in the Olympics is going to be a good idea. T20 cricket is the best idea for Olympic cricket. and I don't say making test cricket formula is going to do anything because eventually it is going to die and it will be a waste of time to try to revive this format .

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 09, 2022, 09:43:21 PM

Quote from: KennyR on May 09, 2022, 06:59:26 PM

In the past there were more discussion that cricket is time consuming for which Western nations were not into it. Slowly this has changed as the popularity of cricket keeps increasing around the world. As said, few countries are dominant in this and more countries participation will make cricket to be big as soccer. When we talk of Olympics, there is nothing to complicate. When it is asked to the Olympic committee it is said that no application has been received so for to add cricket. We don't know what is the truth.

Well.. that is the truth. The IOC reported that they haven't received any application from the ICC, to make cricket as one of the disciplines in Olympic Games. The ICC on the other hand has been trying to fool the fans, by claiming otherwise. Recent opinion polls found overwhelming support from the fans regarding Olympic inclusion. But the businessmen who are in power at the ICC remain opposed to it, for obvious reasons. Now I don't think that IOC will give any special treatment to ICC, when they don't need to do the same with other sports bodies such as the FIFA, FIBA and the FIH.

@Sithara007 is it even possible to have test cricket in the Olympics in a hypothetical scenario, because won’t it increase the length of the Olympics too much?.

Furthermore does cricket really needs Olympics? because it’s already popular, and even if it never gets added to the Olympics then too it’ll do just fine in my personal opinion.

Lastly instead of getting cricket into Olympics ICC should focus primarily on making test cricket more interesting via night tests, and use of pink balls as I had suggested previously.

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Quote from: KennyR on May 09, 2022, 06:59:26 PM

In the past there were more discussion that cricket is time consuming for which Western nations were not into it. Slowly this has changed as the popularity of cricket keeps increasing around the world. As said, few countries are dominant in this and more countries participation will make cricket to be big as soccer. When we talk of Olympics, there is nothing to complicate. When it is asked to the Olympic committee it is said that no application has been received so for to add cricket. We don't know what is the truth.

Well.. that is the truth. The IOC reported that they haven't received any application from the ICC, to make cricket as one of the disciplines in Olympic Games. The ICC on the other hand has been trying to fool the fans, by claiming otherwise. Recent opinion polls found overwhelming support from the fans regarding Olympic inclusion. But the businessmen who are in power at the ICC remain opposed to it, for obvious reasons. Now I don't think that IOC will give any special treatment to ICC, when they don't need to do the same with other sports bodies such as the FIFA, FIBA and the FIH.

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Quote from: dezoel on May 09, 2022, 04:09:38 PM

Quote from: S A KHAIR on May 09, 2022, 05:25:26 AM

it really hurts to see cricket not having any Long Term plan. because as cricket fans we all expect that cricket is going to be played even after we are dead and will be played by many future generations but ICC does not think about the game like that. they are just thinking,’ do I have enough money? yes, I do so cricket is good.

Recently with the introduction of T20 things are change very quickly hopefully in near future we will have some good news with many countries are trying to adopt this new format and bringing their intention in this game but sadly for entry of cricket in Olympics and Asian games we have to wait as this happen surely this will bring some big change and many new countries also join this game as they will be able to have some good funds from IOC and other relative spots authorities.

But, this can hurt our few associates with Olympics has their own system, and they mostly love countries have their own native players instead of having adopted countries which is also good for the game but not for these countries those are bringing players from Sub-Continent for better results instead of having their own domestic set up.

In the past there were more discussion that cricket is time consuming for which Western nations were not into it. Slowly this has changed as the popularity of cricket keeps increasing around the world. As said, few countries are dominant in this and more countries participation will make cricket to be big as soccer. When we talk of Olympics, there is nothing to complicate. When it is asked to the Olympic committee it is said that no application has been received so for to add cricket. We don't know what is the truth.

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Quote from: S A KHAIR on May 09, 2022, 05:25:26 AM

it really hurts to see cricket not having any Long Term plan. because as cricket fans we all expect that cricket is going to be played even after we are dead and will be played by many future generations but ICC does not think about the game like that. they are just thinking,’ do I have enough money? yes, I do so cricket is good.

Recently with the introduction of T20 things are change very quickly hopefully in near future we will have some good news with many countries are trying to adopt this new format and bringing their intention in this game but sadly for entry of cricket in Olympics and Asian games we have to wait as this happen surely this will bring some big change and many new countries also join this game as they will be able to have some good funds from IOC and other relative spots authorities.

But, this can hurt our few associates with Olympics has their own system, and they mostly love countries have their own native players instead of having adopted countries which is also good for the game but not for these countries those are bringing players from Sub-Continent for better results instead of having their own domestic set up.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 08, 2022, 09:28:21 AM

The reason why I am in favor of cricket's inclusion in Olympics is because being an Olympic sport would mean that countries such as China and Russia will allot more government funds to local cricket bodies. Right now, lower ranking (i.e those with native players) associate nations receive around $10,000 in annual funds from the ICC. The availability of funds can increase by 20x or 40x, if cricket becomes an Olympic sport. And I don't have any issue if Olympic cricket becomes a U-23 tournament. Even U-19 is fine with me.

I agree with you this idea because this is going to be very good for many associate countries and then surely we can adopt some policy which helps native players to join their teams instead of having players from other countries like right now we have in many teams. Here we can go like Soccer which allow U-23 teams for Olympics, so ICC also can implement law like this which could bring some good interest for many youths, and we can watch some very entertaining cricket from these youths.

But for this all foremost we have to send these all suggestions to ICC and relative peoples which is never been easy task, but hopefully something good will happen for this great game of cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 04, 2022, 10:03:57 PM

LOL... this tournament (FairBreak Invitational Tournament) has nothing to do with the ICC. This is a privately organized tournament and the credit should go to Shaun Martyn of Fairbreak Global. ICC has zero interest in globalizing the game and they don't have much interest in women's cricket either. The ICC didn't even offered any coverage regarding this tournament on their website. A total of 90 players (divided in to 6 franchises) are taking part, and the majority are from associate nations. Even players from countries such as Rwanda, Brazil and Philippines are present.

Seeing the interest of people in women cricket, ICC has given up all efforts to promote women cricket. But its a good move to gather so many women players and arrange a tournament for them. Though I don't think it will be much beneficial in terms of financial gain but definitely will help players of associate teams to improve there cricket.

Although women playing cricket are only taking few slots in the cricket's total participation, but i guess women should also be given chances to be engaged in cricket especially if they have the interest and skills on it. I believe women can excel in some games, its just that they are not given same opportunities with men. Hopefully women playing cricket will also be recognized in the future, as people would also love to see them engaging in cricket.

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Quote from: S A KHAIR on May 09, 2022, 05:25:26 AM

it really hurts to see cricket not having any Long Term plan. because as cricket fans we all expect that cricket is going to be played even after we are dead and will be played by many future generations but ICC does not think about the game like that. they are just thinking,’ do I have enough money? yes, I do so cricket is good.

If you see history of cricket then it's very much clear that it's never a globally popular game rather a game limited to few countries. First of all cricket need to find its way to more countries rather then just limiting itself to current 10 or 12 counties. Then icc or regulating bodies can plan something for long term.

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It's hard to understand why super powers do not have cricket teams? Grin

And now America Hosting World Cup- this is rather unbelievable too that they do have a cricket team either. Most of these countries are in to athletics and football , which are rich sports

It's not that hard to understand. Cricket is not an Olympic sports and that's why these nations are not interested. Other sports understand the value of Olympics and that is why they tried hard to get them included. FIFA is ten times richer when compared to the ICC, and the same can be said about FIBA as well. But these sports bodies have pushed really hard to include their respective sports in Olympics. Because they understand that in the long term, the popularity will increase and monetary rewards will follow. But in case of ICC, they are interested only in short term benefits.

it really hurts to see cricket not having any Long Term plan. because as cricket fans we all expect that cricket is going to be played even after we are dead and will be played by many future generations but ICC does not think about the game like that. they are just thinking,’ do I have enough money? yes, I do so cricket is good.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 09, 2022, 03:29:47 AM

It's not that hard to understand. Cricket is not an Olympic sports and that's why these nations are not interested. Other sports understand the value of Olympics and that is why they tried hard to get them included. FIFA is ten times richer when compared to the ICC, and the same can be said about FIBA as well. But these sports bodies have pushed really hard to include their respective sports in Olympics. Because they understand that in the long term, the popularity will increase and monetary rewards will follow. But in case of ICC, they are interested only in short term benefits.

TBH ICC revolves in the hands of big 3 and its best in interests of big 3 that cricket remain limited to 10 countries. So that monopoly of big 3 remains intact. For going to Olympics, icc need certain amount of representation from every continent. Forget about cricket inclusion in Olympics, let's hope WC of cricket may include 15 to 20 teams.

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Quote from: og kush420 on May 08, 2022, 09:38:16 PM

It's hard to understand why super powers do not have cricket teams? Grin

And now America Hosting World Cup- this is rather unbelievable too that they do have a cricket team either. Most of these countries are in to athletics and football , which are rich sports

It's not that hard to understand. Cricket is not an Olympic sports and that's why these nations are not interested. Other sports understand the value of Olympics and that is why they tried hard to get them included. FIFA is ten times richer when compared to the ICC, and the same can be said about FIBA as well. But these sports bodies have pushed really hard to include their respective sports in Olympics. Because they understand that in the long term, the popularity will increase and monetary rewards will follow. But in case of ICC, they are interested only in short term benefits.

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BCCI don't want big powers like China to join in since that will take authority away from bcci. Cricket is decade old game and till date it's not included in Olympics nor there are any chances of its inclusion. We have to admit that cricket as a sports failed to fine its way outside South Asia and few other countries.

China does have a Cricket team but they do not give too much emphasis as they do not have a competitive team even though they won some matches against other Associate countries and they even participated in the 2010 Asian Games and they will be participating in the upcoming Asian Games which will be conducted this year and they do have T20 International status.

So i would like to know which invisible power you are talking about Tongue

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It's hard to understand why super powers do not have cricket teams? Grin

And now America Hosting World Cup- this is rather unbelievable too that they do have a cricket team either. Most of these countries are in to athletics and football , which are rich sports

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Quote from: bitgov on May 08, 2022, 01:46:23 PM

BCCI don't want big powers like China to join in since that will take authority away from bcci. Cricket is decade old game and till date it's not included in Olympics nor there are any chances of its inclusion. We have to admit that cricket as a sports failed to fine its way outside South Asia and few other countries.

A decade or so ago, actually the IOC (International Olympic Committee) contacted the ICC to check the possibility of including cricket in the Olympics. Back then ICC-BCCI was being governed by the Sharad Pawar-N Srinivasan mafia and they quickly rejected the proposal. IOC had plans to include cricket from the 2020 Olympics onward (which was actually postponed to 2021). Only when Srinivasan was replaced by Shashank Manohar, the ICC again made attempts to get cricket included as an Olympic sport.

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Quote from: bitgov on May 08, 2022, 01:46:23 PM

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BCCI don't want big powers like China to join in since that will take authority away from bcci. Cricket is decade old game and till date it's not included in Olympics nor there are any chances of its inclusion. We have to admit that cricket as a sports failed to fine its way outside South Asia and few other countries.

China does have a Cricket team but they do not give too much emphasis as they do not have a competitive team even though they won some matches against other Associate countries and they even participated in the 2010 Asian Games and they will be participating in the upcoming Asian Games which will be conducted this year and they do have T20 International status.

So i would like to know which invisible power you are talking about Tongue

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 08, 2022, 09:28:21 AM

The reason why I am in favor of cricket's inclusion in Olympics is because being an Olympic sport would mean that countries such as China and Russia will allot more government funds to local cricket bodies. Right now, lower ranking (i.e those with native players) associate nations receive around $10,000 in annual funds from the ICC. The availability of funds can increase by 20x or 40x, if cricket becomes an Olympic sport. And I don't have any issue if Olympic cricket becomes a U-23 tournament. Even U-19 is fine with me.

BCCI don't want big powers like China to join in since that will take authority away from bcci. Cricket is decade old game and till date it's not included in Olympics nor there are any chances of its inclusion. We have to admit that cricket as a sports failed to fine its way outside South Asia and few other countries.

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I really don't understand why ICC is comfortable with the current situation of cricket because no one else seems to be. I know that countries like England, Australia, and others are really interested in cricket but if somehow India loses its interest in cricket that will be a huge problem for ICC. They really need to be a lot more teams playing cricket.

ICC is waiting for some full fledge disaster.

They might wake up from their sleep when BCCI expand IPL into 12 or 16 team tournament in next decade or so, that means 4-6 months or more fixed for T-20 league only (atleast for Indian players). Other countries would follow the same with their respective league.

First casualty will be Test cricket, followed by ODI WC.

In the case of IPL expedition may be you are right, but surely this is not easy for BCCI because going through on a cricket league for more than four to six months is never been easy task, and they can lose many foreign players even this is not going to hurt them but still it is good for local Indian players with this we will have some revolutionary changes and many other boards will also try their best for survive, and they will introduce their own long leagues which could be ended in system like soccer, and I am having feeling for this for many years because now this is unstoppable.

And with this ODI is going to face the biggest threat instead of test then after this we can talk about test but for me this is still having some charm to survive but ODI will completely lose, and we will have only T20 world cup for national teams and biggest countries are going to play some test matches as well.

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