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Quote from: galambo on March 14, 2022, 10:45:22 AM

It's come to a point of annoying that we are discussing shakib and BCB for no reason again and again. I mean enough has been said about both, still everyone coming up with same logic that Bangladesh is not progressing because of corruption in BCB. Can we discuss anything else here? With no offense.

A good point now it's time for change of topic because this all is already sorted out by both stakeholders with now Shakib is going to South Africa and BCB is also having clear all things, so members need to understand and change the point of this talk, but sadly I just check we have no enough to talk because very bore time around cricket with IPL is going to start after few days, and then we can talk some other things and have some enough topics to talk about.

Australia is having some good time in Karachi test with super bowling from their main attacking bowlers they completely demolish Pakistani batting which is now heading for biggest lost in next two days of this test match.

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It's come to a point of annoying that we are discussing shakib and BCB for no reason again and again. I mean enough has been said about both, still everyone coming up with same logic that Bangladesh is not progressing because of corruption in BCB. Can we discuss anything else here? With no offense.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on March 13, 2022, 03:53:51 PM

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You're this statement is shocking for me as after 23 years of test states and having very long experience of playing cricket they still have no idea how to handle things fairly in board

Exactly my point because 23 years is a long time for any Nation. And by this time Bangladesh should have been recognized as a force to be reckoned with in cricket but that is not something we will see right now. Nepotism and favoritism have been in the Bangladesh cricket board like a plague. And the only way to remove this is to change the personnel on the board in my opinion.

The problem is Shakib Al Hasan wants to be treated better as he is the best player in the Bangladesh team and the board thinks that has a problem. They just don't want to admit that they have the best cricketer in their team and want to establish their authority everywhere. that's where the communication gap between the cricket board and the players comes into play which has held the Bangladesh cricket team back for a long time.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on March 13, 2022, 03:53:51 PM

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You're this statement is shocking for me as after 23 years of test states and having very long experience of playing cricket they still have no idea how to handle things fairly in board

Exactly my point because 23 years is a long time for any Nation. And by this time Bangladesh should have been recognized as a force to be reckoned with in cricket but that is not something we will see right now. Nepotism and favoritism have been in the Bangladesh cricket board like a plague. And the only way to remove this is to change the personnel on the board in my opinion.

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I don't know why there is so lengthy debate going on about BCB and Shakib? As per my knowledge shakib has played 59 test, 218 ODIs and 96 T20Is for Bangladesh and still I read posts that BCB has not done justice with that legendary all rounder. What else a player need from his board if he has played so many matches.

This is all because of the increasing money flow into cricket and the emergence of Bangladesh as a better team with time. When there is money automatically there'll be politics and the same is happening with the Bangladesh cricket board. He's a good cricketer, and has faced several such disciplinary complaints which is true. Now what has been looking like an politics that is being played by people who doesn't have better idea about cricket. This is like establishing their power.

Yes shakib has been one of the best players for Bangladesh. May be we can say he is the best player of all time for Bangladesh. But his behaviour time and time again has been very bad. He has only decreased his respect among cricket fans. I dont agree that BCB has not done justice with him. I think he has not done justice to his skills and for his country by showing bad behaviour.

Can we give a bit of attention to women cricket team as well. They are also doing good and needs a bit of appreciation. In today's match Eng Vs South Africa - I believe SV will win this match they are at the moment batting chasing and needs 67 runs from 74 balls.

The match is going great - both the teams are in great spirits. Good batting, excellent fielding and wonderful bowling by both the team. England lost its 6 wicket now and still 37 to win from 38 balls. Pressure building up. I am siding SA too.

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I don't know why there is so lengthy debate going on about BCB and Shakib? As per my knowledge shakib has played 59 test, 218 ODIs and 96 T20Is for Bangladesh and still I read posts that BCB has not done justice with that legendary all rounder. What else a player need from his board if he has played so many matches.

This is all because of the increasing money flow into cricket and the emergence of Bangladesh as a better team with time. When there is money automatically there'll be politics and the same is happening with the Bangladesh cricket board. He's a good cricketer, and has faced several such disciplinary complaints which is true. Now what has been looking like an politics that is being played by people who doesn't have better idea about cricket. This is like establishing their power.

Yes shakib has been one of the best players for Bangladesh. May be we can say he is the best player of all time for Bangladesh. But his behaviour time and time again has been very bad. He has only decreased his respect among cricket fans. I dont agree that BCB has not done justice with him. I think he has not done justice to his skills and for his country by showing bad behaviour.

Can we give a bit of attention to women cricket team as well. They are also doing good and needs a bit of appreciation. In today's match Eng Vs South Africa - I believe SV will win this match they are at the moment batting chasing and needs 67 runs from 74 balls.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on March 13, 2022, 12:25:23 PM

I don't know why there is so lengthy debate going on about BCB and Shakib? As per my knowledge shakib has played 59 test, 218 ODIs and 96 T20Is for Bangladesh and still I read posts that BCB has not done justice with that legendary all rounder. What else a player need from his board if he has played so many matches.

This is all because of the increasing money flow into cricket and the emergence of Bangladesh as a better team with time. When there is money automatically there'll be politics and the same is happening with the Bangladesh cricket board. He's a good cricketer, and has faced several such disciplinary complaints which is true. Now what has been looking like an politics that is being played by people who doesn't have better idea about cricket. This is like establishing their power.

Yes shakib has been one of the best players for Bangladesh. May be we can say he is the best player of all time for Bangladesh. But his behaviour time and time again has been very bad. He has only decreased his respect among cricket fans. I dont agree that BCB has not done justice with him. I think he has not done justice to his skills and for his country by showing bad behaviour.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on March 13, 2022, 12:25:23 PM

I don't know why there is so lengthy debate going on about BCB and Shakib? As per my knowledge shakib has played 59 test, 218 ODIs and 96 T20Is for Bangladesh and still I read posts that BCB has not done justice with that legendary all rounder. What else a player need from his board if he has played so many matches.

This is all because of the increasing money flow into cricket and the emergence of Bangladesh as a better team with time. When there is money automatically there'll be politics and the same is happening with the Bangladesh cricket board. He's a good cricketer, and has faced several such disciplinary complaints which is true. Now what has been looking like an politics that is being played by people who doesn't have better idea about cricket. This is like establishing their power.

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Quote from: Minecache on March 13, 2022, 07:44:59 AM

These types of controversies shouldn't have happened if BCB actually knew how to do their work ok. At the moment the Bangladesh cricket board is filled with people who have no idea how to do their job and people who are just looking to get their hands on a good amount of money.

@kro55, As far as I know, the president of BCB, Nazmul Hasan doesn't know anything about cricket. He was sent to do the election of BCB president and he went there to do so. But he found that the money is really good. So somehow he selected himself to be the President of the Bangladesh cricket board by using political power. So, tell me how can the Bangladesh cricket team prosper?

You're this statement is shocking for me as after 23 years of test states and having very long experience of playing cricket they still have no idea how to handle things fairly in board because this all need some good and strong team work, and I was feeling they are good and professional but after reading this all now feeling if they have nothing idea and just one player is having headache for them then they need to shut down and this all business and try on some better way for living.

Simply they need to do some paper work and try to arrange few domestics set up from there they can bring some good players and professional management peoples those do this all with good and spirited way for better and quality of their country.

Now they already have franchise cricket which is giving them good profit, so now funds are available just setting all this sports authority is nothing any serious concern for Government and peoples those are involved in this for very long time.

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I don't know why there is so lengthy debate going on about BCB and Shakib? As per my knowledge shakib has played 59 test, 218 ODIs and 96 T20Is for Bangladesh and still I read posts that BCB has not done justice with that legendary all rounder. What else a player need from his board if he has played so many matches.

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Quote from: kro55 on March 13, 2022, 04:24:51 AM

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I think the beef between Shakib Al Hasan and the Bangladesh cricket board is always going to be there. Or at least as long as Mr. Nazrml Hasan Papon is the president of BCB.

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Bangladesh Cricket Board has been released a news, Bangladesh all-rounder Shakib Al Hasan will be rested from all kind of cricket formats until 30th of April. Thus, He will miss Bangladesh's forthcoming tour of South Africa. He is a world class athlete and no one can disagree with that but at the same time he lacks discipline. BCB should focus on building quality players to manage such crisis if any of their top players not interested to play.

Tired of all this drama with Shakib and the BCB. Bangladesh do have some good players, such as Mustafizur Rahman and Liton Das. But without any argument, Shakib is a class apart. In many ways, he is similar to Virat Kohli of India. And in this case, I would say that BCB handled him unfairly, when compared to how the BCCI handled Kohli. The immediate priority for the BCB should be to improve their rankings in test an ODI formats, and for that purpose these sort of controversies are not helpful in anyway.

These types of controversies shouldn't have happened if BCB actually knew how to do their work ok. At the moment the Bangladesh cricket board is filled with people who have no idea how to do their job and people who are just looking to get their hands on a good amount of money.

@kro55, As far as I know, the president of BCB, Nazmul Hasan doesn't know anything about cricket. He was sent to do the election of BCB president and he went there to do so. But he found that the money is really good. So somehow he selected himself to be the President of the Bangladesh cricket board by using political power. So, tell me how can the Bangladesh cricket team prosper?

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I think that now all the parties should be happy as Shakib Al Hasan got his break that he needed and the Bangladesh team also will have him available for the South Africa tour.
He also didn't get picked for the IPL I guess. So, him changing his mind makes a lot of sense now. But, the Bangladesh cricket board and the Bangladeshi fans will be really happy now.

Was Shakib Al Hasan having a really tight schedule and playing all the matches to have a rest. I have my doubts why he was not picked for the IPL because he will be willing to play for the IPL rather than touring with the team and may be the Bangladesh board has requested the BCCI to not pick him and now he will be available for the South African tour.

That could be an issue because we all know that Shakib Al Hasan has a really bad relationship with the BCB. And as far as I know, BCB can obviously do something like that.

I think we all know that Shakib Al Hasan was not playing too much cricket for which he would have needed rest. But as a fan of Bangladesh cricket, I am happy that he will be playing in the South Africa tour. I think the beef between Shakib Al Hasan and the Bangladesh cricket board is always going to be there. Or at least as long as Mr. Nazrml Hasan Papon is the president of BCB.

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Quote from: Maidak on March 12, 2022, 10:44:44 AM

It seems now, ICC is going to agree with these rules. Because they generally don't reject the suggestions that are given by the MCC.
But, I think The saliva rule for the bowlers are going to be a little too much because they already don't have much of an advantage these days. Cricket is just becoming a batsman game as Days go by.

Mankading is very much required in T20 since they are close contest at times. I don't think Mankading will have any impact in test cricket. Use of saliva is also needed in test and ODI matches to swing the ball and not required in T20s. Saliva is used by bowlers for decades and its prohibition is something beyond understanding.

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Quote from: ibuddy122505 on March 09, 2022, 09:18:10 AM

Bangladesh Cricket Board has been released a news, Bangladesh all-rounder Shakib Al Hasan will be rested from all kind of cricket formats until 30th of April. Thus, He will miss Bangladesh's forthcoming tour of South Africa. He is a world class athlete and no one can disagree with that but at the same time he lacks discipline. BCB should focus on building quality players to manage such crisis if any of their top players not interested to play.

Tired of all this drama with Shakib and the BCB. Bangladesh do have some good players, such as Mustafizur Rahman and Liton Das. But without any argument, Shakib is a class apart. In many ways, he is similar to Virat Kohli of India. And in this case, I would say that BCB handled him unfairly, when compared to how the BCCI handled Kohli. The immediate priority for the BCB should be to improve their rankings in test an ODI formats, and for that purpose these sort of controversies are not helpful in anyway.

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Quote from: kro55 on March 12, 2022, 09:54:23 AM

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I think that now all the parties should be happy as Shakib Al Hasan got his break that he needed and the Bangladesh team also will have him available for the South Africa tour.
He also didn't get picked for the IPL I guess. So, him changing his mind makes a lot of sense now. But, the Bangladesh cricket board and the Bangladeshi fans will be really happy now.

Was Shakib Al Hasan having a really tight schedule and playing all the matches to have a rest. I have my doubts why he was not picked for the IPL because he will be willing to play for the IPL rather than touring with the team and may be the Bangladesh board has requested the BCCI to not pick him and now he will be available for the South African tour.

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Quote from: galambo on March 12, 2022, 01:34:42 AM

There is an interesting development in cricket asMankading' no longer 'unfair play' as MCC makes massive changes to laws of cricket.
I think it was necessary because cricket is now getting very fast and there are times when one or two runs are very crucial.
MCC also recommeded permanent ban on use of saliva on ball. "The new Laws will not permit the use of saliva on the ball, which also removes any grey areas of fielders eating sugary sweets to alter their saliva to apply to the ball. Using saliva will be treated the same way as any other unfair methods of changing the condition of the ball," the statement from MCC read."
Its upto ICC to accept these new laws from MCC or not. Normally ICC accepts MCC amendments without any protest.

It seems now, ICC is going to agree with these rules. Because they generally don't reject the suggestions that are given by the MCC.
But, I think The saliva rule for the bowlers are going to be a little too much because they already don't have much of an advantage these days. Cricket is just becoming a batsman game as Days go by.

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Quote from: onecall123 on March 12, 2022, 08:25:17 AM

The drama hasn't ended yet since there's been a recent development. The Bangladeshi national team has been greatly benefited by Shakib Al Hasan, but his activities are not conducive to team success. I remember my childhood when Shakib behaved like that. Shakib Al Hasan has announced he will head to South Africa after resting from his tour. BCB gave Shakib rest from the entire series even though he wanted only to skip the Test series! Hence, his stance has changed. I think that he was not picked by IPL, thus changing his stance. It's a good thing he's touring South Africa and the Saga should be over now!

I think that now all the parties should be happy as Shakib Al Hasan got his break that he needed and the Bangladesh team also will have him available for the South Africa tour.
He also didn't get picked for the IPL I guess. So, him changing his mind makes a lot of sense now. But, the Bangladesh cricket board and the Bangladeshi fans will be really happy now.

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Quote from: kro55 on March 09, 2022, 02:42:20 PM

Quote from: ibuddy122505 on March 09, 2022, 09:18:10 AM

Bangladesh Cricket Board has been released a news, Bangladesh all-rounder Shakib Al Hasan will be rested from all kind of cricket formats until 30th of April. Thus, He will miss Bangladesh's forthcoming tour of South Africa. He is a world class athlete and no one can disagree with that but at the same time he lacks discipline. BCB should focus on building quality players to manage such crisis if any of their top players not interested to play.

Shakib Al Hasan is a great asset for Bangladesh and obviously the best cricketer in the world.

But, I think he lacks the work ethic. Bangladesh really needed him for the next series. As far as I know, he himself has expressed the feeling of having a break and says that he needs the break because he is fatigued physically and mentally.

But I don't think physical or mental fatigue is the reason why he did not perform up to the mark against Afghanistan.
But then again, he is 34. And this is an interesting stage for athletes. The body certainly doesn't work as a 19-year-old now.

The drama hasn't ended yet since there's been a recent development. The Bangladeshi national team has been greatly benefited by Shakib Al Hasan, but his activities are not conducive to team success. I remember my childhood when Shakib behaved like that. Shakib Al Hasan has announced he will head to South Africa after resting from his tour. BCB gave Shakib rest from the entire series even though he wanted only to skip the Test series! Hence, his stance has changed. I think that he was not picked by IPL, thus changing his stance. It's a good thing he's touring South Africa and the Saga should be over now!

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There is an interesting development in cricket asMankading' no longer 'unfair play' as MCC makes massive changes to laws of cricket.

I think it was necessary because cricket is now getting very fast and there are times when one or two runs are very crucial.

MCC also recommeded permanent ban on use of saliva on ball. "The new Laws will not permit the use of saliva on the ball, which also removes any grey areas of fielders eating sugary sweets to alter their saliva to apply to the ball. Using saliva will be treated the same way as any other unfair methods of changing the condition of the ball," the statement from MCC read."

Its upto ICC to accept these new laws from MCC or not. Normally ICC accepts MCC amendments without any protest.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on March 10, 2022, 12:54:00 PM

Today's result mean hopes are very slim for Team India to go through into last four with now England is also going to be very tough after having to back defeats and New Zealand and West Indies are strong contenders with Australia is hot favorite for this mega event.

Every team has to play 7 matches and so far every team has played 2 to 3 matches. Its too early to say who will qualify for the semis as we have already seen two upsets from WI team as they beat England and NZ. Before start of this WC everyone saying Aus, NZ and England will play semis along with some one team from rest of participants. England has lost both of its matches so far. It will be interesting to see who makes it to top 4.

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