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Quote from: galambo on March 07, 2022, 10:21:43 AM

Also Shane has not under went scenario's which murli gone through in his early career. Aussie umpires tried there best to ban murli but its Arjuna Ranatunga and SL board that stood firmly with Murli and ICC has no other way left but to clear Murli.

Truth is that Murali's action was extremely weird when compared to other spin bowlers which is why it makes sense why he faced a harder time when compared to Warne whose action was simple in comparison.

Quote from: galambo on March 07, 2022, 10:21:43 AM

Murli class is different, he is liked by people all around the world because of his performance and character. After retirement Shane continue to tease people through his role as commentator.

Wrong. Both are world-class bowlers who established their legacies through hard work and perseverance. Personally, I consider Murali slightly better when compared to Warne in the bowling aspect.

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Quote from: jostorres on March 06, 2022, 01:58:18 PM

You are right now it's all end, and we don't need to talk about this all but one thing is clear after retirement he was doing many things and these all just for his business so just because of this mostly he has done many wrong things as well because he needs some good intention in media, so his tricks were working for him, and mostly he was talk of community about his behavior and good relationship with Indian players were their necessity because after introduction of IPL India is the biggest market for this game and everyone wants to take his share from this.

He was also shareholder in Rajasthan Royals just because of this all good relationship with Indian players was very important for him. Specially after IPL many Australian and New Zealand players were having good things in India, so they are doing this all for their own sack.

I think he did what he thought he needed to do and I think we should not judge a man for that. Maybe he did some bad things when he was alive but there are a lot of people doing really bad things and I think he obviously was better than them. I just don't want to say anything negative about a dead man who was the greatest leg spin bowler ever and an icon of cricket over the whole world.

Quote from: romero121 on March 06, 2022, 07:43:04 PM

Have anyone watched the T20 world cup cricket between India Women and Pakistan Women. The Indian team had made an easy win against the Pakistan team. India have managed to score 244 runs whereas Pakistan reached 137 losing every wickets. Indian Women team have played well, upcoming matches against New Zealand and Australia will be the hardest for India. If this has been a match between the men's team, now this could've turned to be the biggest discussion.

A lot of people actually don't watch women's cricket because men's cricket is more entertaining and skillful. I am obviously not trying to offend anyone. I am just stating some facts. Indian women won against the Pakistan women really easily and I was actually surprised to see both of these teams' skills. Anyway, I think the next match of India is not going to be this one-sided.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 07, 2022, 08:43:17 AM

That's because Muttiah Muralitharan relied a lot on his spin rather than outthinking the batsman. He was really very different from the current off spin bowlers because he spun the ball with his wrist, that's why he got so much spin out of the tracks.

But Shane Warne also had a really big spin but even when the ball was not spinning marks he could get wickets by outthinking the batsman. Still remember the wicket that he took off Sachin Tendulkar with a good straight ball. Sachin was just defending the ball with his pad if it was a leg spin and out of the off stump. Shane Warne realized this and bowled a straight one with the same action and had Sachin lbw-ed. He also flighted the ball a lot more.

Also Shane has not under went scenario's which murli gone through in his early career. Aussie umpires tried there best to ban murli but its Arjuna Ranatunga and SL board that stood firmly with Murli and ICC has no other way left but to clear Murli.
Murli class is different, he is liked by people all around the world because of his performance and character. After retirement Shane continue to tease people through his role as commentator.

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Quote from: Maidak on March 06, 2022, 07:59:57 AM

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And yes Muttiah Muralitharan was a better bowler than him and at that time the Sri Lankan off-spinner was also facing a lot of problems from certain an instead of being not guilty. But the impact that Shane Warne had cannot be neglected at all.

Muttiah Muralitharan is a great bowler but you cannot compare the impact Shane Warne brought to cricket. Muttiah Muralitharan was taking all of his wickets in spin friendly tracks where he carried the bowling on his shoulders while Shane Warne was in a team where they have more talented bowlers and the competition was really high and majority of the times the wickets he played are not spin friendly and he was able to pick wickets regularly.

Both are all time great so comparison doesn't sound good.

Having said that as far as i remember he was never successful against India anywhere in the world (Even on spin track), may be because that time India had tons of good batters of spin. Every test match he played against India was nightmare for him. Take this for example, his average is like 47 + against India, compare to 27-ish against rest of the world. Similarly his strike rate per wicket was 90+ against India and 60-ish against rest of the world.

Murli on the other hand had fair amount of success against India.

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Quote from: Maidak on March 06, 2022, 07:59:57 AM

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And yes Muttiah Muralitharan was a better bowler than him and at that time the Sri Lankan off-spinner was also facing a lot of problems from certain an instead of being not guilty. But the impact that Shane Warne had cannot be neglected at all.

Muttiah Muralitharan is a great bowler but you cannot compare the impact Shane Warne brought to cricket. Muttiah Muralitharan was taking all of his wickets in spin friendly tracks where he carried the bowling on his shoulders while Shane Warne was in a team where they have more talented bowlers and the competition was really high and majority of the times the wickets he played are not spin friendly and he was able to pick wickets regularly.

That's because Muttiah Muralitharan relied a lot on his spin rather than outthinking the batsman. He was really very different from the current off spin bowlers because he spun the ball with his wrist, that's why he got so much spin out of the tracks.

But Shane Warne also had a really big spin but even when the ball was not spinning marks he could get wickets by outthinking the batsman. Still remember the wicket that he took off Sachin Tendulkar with a good straight ball. Sachin was just defending the ball with his pad if it was a leg spin and out of the off stump. Shane Warne realized this and bowled a straight one with the same action and had Sachin lbw-ed. He also flighted the ball a lot more.

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Quote from: romero121 on March 06, 2022, 07:43:04 PM

Have anyone watched the T20 world cup cricket between India Women and Pakistan Women. The Indian team had made an easy win against the Pakistan team. India have managed to score 244 runs whereas Pakistan reached 137 losing every wickets. Indian Women team have played well, upcoming matches against New Zealand and Australia will be the hardest for India. If this has been a match between the men's team, now this could've turned to be the biggest discussion.

Yes that's the irony, there is very little interest in women cricket. Not even in Pakistan and India many are aware of this big match. India won the match quite easily against Pakistan team ( not as strong as there men team). Indian team have made a good start of the tournament after they lost odi and t20 series to NZ.

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Shane Warne - 13 Sep 1969 to 4 Mar 2022

Test Matches Played - 145
ODI Matches Played - 194
First Class Matches Played - 301

Test Match Wickets - 708
ODI Matche Wickets - 293
First Class Matche Wickets - 1319

5 wickets (Test) - 37
5 wickets (ODI) - 1
5 wickets (FC) - 69

10 wickets (Test) - 10
10 wickets (FC) - 12

Best Bowling (Test) - 8/71
Best Bowling (ODI) - 5/33
Best Bowling (FC) - 8/71

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Have anyone watched the T20 world cup cricket between India Women and Pakistan Women. The Indian team had made an easy win against the Pakistan team. India have managed to score 244 runs whereas Pakistan reached 137 losing every wickets. Indian Women team have played well, upcoming matches against New Zealand and Australia will be the hardest for India. If this has been a match between the men's team, now this could've turned to be the biggest discussion.

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Quote from: Maidak on March 06, 2022, 07:59:57 AM

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And yes Muttiah Muralitharan was a better bowler than him and at that time the Sri Lankan off-spinner was also facing a lot of problems from certain an instead of being not guilty. But the impact that Shane Warne had cannot be neglected at all.

Muttiah Muralitharan is a great bowler but you cannot compare the impact Shane Warne brought to cricket. Muttiah Muralitharan was taking all of his wickets in spin friendly tracks where he carried the bowling on his shoulders while Shane Warne was in a team where they have more talented bowlers and the competition was really high and majority of the times the wickets he played are not spin friendly and he was able to pick wickets regularly.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 06, 2022, 02:27:34 PM

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Moreover, Aussie PM confirms that Shane Warne will get state funeral.

He deserves this respect from the Australian government. He was an asset to the team and had performed and won matches a number of times for the nation.

There is no doubt after Sir Donald Bradman he was the greatest ever cricketer for Australia and greatest ever sportsman for his own country because just because of his achievements Government of Australia announces they want to give him state level respect in his funeral. Surely we can discuss all things about cricketers because it's all related to this game and community many are talking about his negativity which was real thing because just because of this he was in limelight for many years, and he surely loves this all just because he wants to some good name around media, so he was successful in his all strategy.

In his playing days and after his retirement we still have no replacement for him because he was only and lonely genius person in his field, and surely it's very difficult to have any person like him near future.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 05, 2022, 07:28:30 AM

Moreover, Aussie PM confirms that Shane Warne will get state funeral.

He deserves this respect from the Australian government. He was an asset to the team and had performed and won matches a number of times for the nation.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 05, 2022, 10:19:07 AM

I think he was and still is the best leg spinner the cricketing world has ever seen. He has given a lot to the cricketing world and revived an almost dying art- leg spin bowling. He is the reason why a lot of young kids are into leg spin bowling. I like the fact that he is going to get a state funeral. And I feel like it's better not to talk about his personal life or the controversies around him.

Here on this thread we are supposed to discuss cricket and players not there personal lives. We need to focus on what Shane Warne did on cricket pitch rather outside the ground.
He didn't played T20I otherwise his magic would have been seen there as well. Just see his magic in this short video https://youtu.be/L3ZY8947wEg

I think anything related to cricket can be discussed here, whether it be the discussion of a cricket match or a focused discussion on a certain player. However in this case when Shane Warne is not around us anymore, we can forgive his sins and talk good about him.

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Quote from: Maidak on March 06, 2022, 07:59:57 AM

I don't want to go into the debate if he was a good human being or not. Because I honestly don't want to say any controversial stuff about a dead guy. And obviously, he was closely related to Rajasthan Royals so he will obviously have good relations with Indian players and the Indian board. all I want to say is he was a great player and certainly the best leg spin bowler.

And yes Muttiah Muralitharan was a better bowler than him and at that time the Sri Lankan off-spinner was also facing a lot of problems from certain an instead of being not guilty. But the impact that Shane Warne had cannot be neglected at all.

You are right now it's all end, and we don't need to talk about this all but one thing is clear after retirement he was doing many things and these all just for his business so just because of this mostly he has done many wrong things as well because he needs some good intention in media, so his tricks were working for him, and mostly he was talk of community about his behavior and good relationship with Indian players were their necessity because after introduction of IPL India is the biggest market for this game and everyone wants to take his share from this.

He was also shareholder in Rajasthan Royals just because of this all good relationship with Indian players was very important for him. Specially after IPL many Australian and New Zealand players were having good things in India, so they are doing this all for their own sack.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 05, 2022, 11:46:25 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on March 05, 2022, 09:35:55 PM

Everyone respected him when he was playing cricket and there is no doubt about it. However his behavior outside the field was always controversial. And although he maintained good relations with Indian players after his retirement, during the 90s he was very infamous for sledging and bullying opposite players (especially Indians) on field. All that said, he was a legend and will always be remembered as one. He made use of his opportunities to the maximum in the cricket field and was well supported by his captains at that time.

In 90s bcci was weak board and he have good relations with Indian players after his retirement since he was made captain of Rajistan Royals so he has no other option but to have good relations to show thankfulness to Indian. His on field behaviour with opposite players was always bad.
He will always be remembered as a legendary spin bowler and worst human being that has no respect for opposite players. Muralidharan is far ahead of him not only in terms of performance but also in sportsmanship.

I don't want to go into the debate if he was a good human being or not. Because I honestly don't want to say any controversial stuff about a dead guy. And obviously, he was closely related to Rajasthan Royals so he will obviously have good relations with Indian players and the Indian board. all I want to say is he was a great player and certainly the best leg spin bowler.

And yes Muttiah Muralitharan was a better bowler than him and at that time the Sri Lankan off-spinner was also facing a lot of problems from certain an instead of being not guilty. But the impact that Shane Warne had cannot be neglected at all.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 05, 2022, 09:35:55 PM

Everyone respected him when he was playing cricket and there is no doubt about it. However his behavior outside the field was always controversial. And although he maintained good relations with Indian players after his retirement, during the 90s he was very infamous for sledging and bullying opposite players (especially Indians) on field. All that said, he was a legend and will always be remembered as one. He made use of his opportunities to the maximum in the cricket field and was well supported by his captains at that time.

In 90s bcci was weak board and he have good relations with Indian players after his retirement since he was made captain of Rajistan Royals so he has no other option but to have good relations to show thankfulness to Indian. His on field behaviour with opposite players was always bad.
He will always be remembered as a legendary spin bowler and worst human being that has no respect for opposite players. Muralidharan is far ahead of him not only in terms of performance but also in sportsmanship.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on March 05, 2022, 06:58:25 PM

The ability of Shane Warne to turn a match with his bowling skills is legendary, i have seen some of the highlights from the past and it is really impressive how he was able to turn the match with his bowling. His death was a really shock and they should have given the respect when he was alive which i doubt he got that but it is good to see everyone showering praise after his demise.

Everyone respected him when he was playing cricket and there is no doubt about it. However his behavior outside the field was always controversial. And although he maintained good relations with Indian players after his retirement, during the 90s he was very infamous for sledging and bullying opposite players (especially Indians) on field. All that said, he was a legend and will always be remembered as one. He made use of his opportunities to the maximum in the cricket field and was well supported by his captains at that time.

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Quote from: KennyR on March 05, 2022, 06:44:32 PM

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His cricketing career have supported the Australia team win several matches. Particularly he have won more critical matches for Australia with his magical spin bowling which has never been possible by any of the players. His death was unexpected and the Australian government is good enough to given him the proper respect.

The ability of Shane Warne to turn a match with his bowling skills is legendary, i have seen some of the highlights from the past and it is really impressive how he was able to turn the match with his bowling. His death was a really shock and they should have given the respect when he was alive which i doubt he got that but it is good to see everyone showering praise after his demise.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on March 05, 2022, 06:04:10 PM

Quote from: galambo on March 05, 2022, 01:49:46 PM

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Here on this thread we are supposed to discuss cricket and players not there personal lives. We need to focus on what Shane Warne did on cricket pitch rather outside the ground.
He didn't played T20I otherwise his magic would have been seen there as well. Just see his magic in this short video https://youtu.be/L3ZY8947wEg

Shane Warne spun his magic in T20 especially in the IPL during the first edition where he was the captain of Rajasthan Royals who were having a really young team who does not have any experience and Shane Warne took that team to victory and showcased his skills as a captain and how to motivate the youngsters to produce the best performance from them. He really was an underrated captain and never had the opportunity to lead Australia.

His cricketing career have supported the Australia team win several matches. Particularly he have won more critical matches for Australia with his magical spin bowling which has never been possible by any of the players. His death was unexpected and the Australian government is good enough to given him the proper respect.

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Quote from: galambo on March 05, 2022, 01:49:46 PM

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Here on this thread we are supposed to discuss cricket and players not there personal lives. We need to focus on what Shane Warne did on cricket pitch rather outside the ground.
He didn't played T20I otherwise his magic would have been seen there as well. Just see his magic in this short video https://youtu.be/L3ZY8947wEg

Shane Warne spun his magic in T20 especially in the IPL during the first edition where he was the captain of Rajasthan Royals who were having a really young team who does not have any experience and Shane Warne took that team to victory and showcased his skills as a captain and how to motivate the youngsters to produce the best performance from them. He really was an underrated captain and never had the opportunity to lead Australia.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 04, 2022, 03:11:43 PM

The whole cricketing world is sad right now hearing the news of Shane Warne's death. He was only 52 years old. The reason for his death is said to be a heart attack but I highly doubt that.

But I also don't want to make any assumptions about a late cricketing legend. He was the one who actually popularized leg-spin bowling to the modern era. One of the best cricketers ever. Australia should take steps to honor him properly.

There are rumors that he suffered heart attack as a result of overdose from Viagra. Shane Warne was a legendary player and there is no doubt about it. But his private life was always controversial. While he was in Australia, he got entangled in multiple controversies related to misbehavior with females. During foreign tours also, there were such reports arising, but the Australian cricket board managed to hush up all the complaints. Some time ago he shifted to Thailand and after that there wasn't much news about him in the media.

In our culture we never discuss what bad the deceased did in their life. We always talk good about them because that according to our religious beliefs reduce the pain of soul and helps the soul rest in peace. Let's talk good about the him. We all know he has shown incredible performance in his cricketing career. The world knows him and respect him. What he did in his personal life is nothing of our concern. Let's pray for him. May God bless the departed soul and give patience to those mourning behind.

Strongly agreed. He was a hero and legend. He will be recognized and acknowledged in the world of cricket for a long period. This is life, sooner or later every soul has to go, yesterday it was Warne tomorrow it will be me or you. That is the law of nature. May God bless his soul and give him highest place in paradise.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 05, 2022, 10:19:07 AM

I think he was and still is the best leg spinner the cricketing world has ever seen. He has given a lot to the cricketing world and revived an almost dying art- leg spin bowling. He is the reason why a lot of young kids are into leg spin bowling. I like the fact that he is going to get a state funeral. And I feel like it's better not to talk about his personal life or the controversies around him.

Here on this thread we are supposed to discuss cricket and players not there personal lives. We need to focus on what Shane Warne did on cricket pitch rather outside the ground.
He didn't played T20I otherwise his magic would have been seen there as well. Just see his magic in this short video https://youtu.be/L3ZY8947wEg

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